Cast out from the jungle / With no rations or canteen

Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 384 points –
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Once the stove exhausts most of it's hydrogen fuel, the stove will enter it's Red Giant phase and grow to the size of a small car.

This comment makes me wish I could gild comments on Lemmy.

That's exactly what I was missing: giant distracting icons that flash on a comment I was going to read anyways!

Nah, forget the stupid additional awards they added. Just the good ol’ gold. It was a great idea to help pay for servers before they corrupted it seeking profit.

Lemmings are herbivorous, give them a leaf. 🥬

This implies carnivores and/or omnivores eat gold.

Wait, do you think non-lemmings are dragons?

I found it! The source of global warming! Contained entirely within some guys shop

Actually I think this might be the cleanest stove yet. High temperature and enough airflow to allow for such heat means all of the fumes get burned.

They're running that thing a bit too hot

Just a tad

I honestly don't really see anything else that's horribly wrong here. It's a home made stove. I kind of like it

the air intake on the bottom doesn't even have a door, it's just running on max all the time

That's true. I chose to trust the text that it was adjustable. I was about to write it but decided not to.

Warms the whole workshop within ten minutes? More like burns down the whole workshop within ten minutes.

At least everyone inside will be warm for the rest of their lives

Give a man a fire and he is warm for a day.

Set a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life.

*also warms the neighbours house in ten 5

Are they casting Sauron's rings in that thing? Jeebus.

That can't be safe

It's safe enough, in the Finnish army we occasionally get the tent heater red hot, and as long as nothing flammable touches it or is too close, it's fine. It will radiate heat quite well when that hot, but won't be anywhere close to dangerous if you know what you're doing. In the tent we of course have some water nearby to extinguish the possible flames but still.

You basically need to have it glowing red if you're to keep the tent warm in -15 °C or lower. - 30°C needs something closely resembling the picture posted.

Here's an example, unfortunately hosted on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fjiquty6qz7s51.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3De4b8083400858eccc1786d7b32b94b759b2bc6c2

You make it red hot because you don't want to crawl constantly back into the tent. And you never, ever want the fire to go out, because of all the shit you'd get for it. Mansikka for life

I need your to consult on Frostpunk 2. The first game insists people can survive -140° C and that's like, -220° F.

Well, the example was with a tent which is a single layer of cotton between you and the environment, and by no means resembles anything even remotely insulated. That's why it needs a relatively powerful heater to stay comfortably warm. In normal use you have quite a lot of control over the temperature of the heater, mainly with the size and amount of firewood -> effective surface area of the fire.

For static buildings the situation is different, with enough insulation you can get by with almost no heating. Zero-energy building is a thing in Finland as well, and although it has its challenges, it's still possible to keep your home warm with only your body heat in e.g. -40. The main difficulty you'll encounter there is getting rid of the moisture in air, since being that energy-efficient will require having your home almost fully enclosed. You'll also need to be careful to properly limit the moisture getting out from the house, as the dew point will be inside the insulation and any moisture getting out will condense inside, eventually leading to mold.

I haven't actually reached the end game in Frostpunk 1, but at a glance it would require some efficiency improvements and better insulation – and given enough insulation and heating anything is possible. If your people are sleeping under the sky hugging the generator, I'd assume you won't get past the end game. A real-world example that somewhat resembles the Frostpunk world would be people living in Yakutsk, Russia, where they have more of a brute-force approach to the -60 °C temperatures – just burn enough gas to keep your log cabin warm. Surviving outside at those temperatures without protective equipment would be difficult though, especially since most materials won't stay flexible at -120 °C or -140 °C. You'd find it pretty difficult to move around.

Edit: But also, a mandatory "don't quote me on this", as building is my hobby, not my job. I've some knowledge, and some experience, but by no means am I a professional.

It does look a bit like it's on the verge of exploding.

He's not lying, everything he said is true... Note he never claims that it was done properly!

Looks quite efficient. See also: rocket stoves, specifically the pocket rocket design. Though the ones with lots of thermal mass probably serve folks better while taking up more space. Various wood gasifier stoves are pretty neat. I've got a little one for camping.

In this instance, I'd predict the components of this stove will oxidize away quickly.

It is all stainless steel. So it will be able to last.

I once combined a steel can wood gasifier with an aluminum alcohol stove using an ethanol and peroxide fuel that could boil 500ml of water in under 6 minutes with an ounce of fuel and burned violet. Not ideal for lightweight camping, as I intended, but man was it efficient.

What's the chimney made out of, I can't tell

pure red

I can't shake the feeling it looks like plastic, but that means we'll have imminent catastrophic failure.

Metal flex chimney pipe. Looks like 6-8" or bigger.

Edit: he says 150mm so 6"

It's clearly hard-to-focus-on purple

Stainless steel spiral crimped corrugated. Same type they use to reline chimneys for appliances or some gas burning fireplaces. Looks like 6".

I think it has reached critical mass

You can throw an ice cube at that and kill everybody in a three block radius

And then one day you are there working on something at the vise, you drop something, and then you need a full back graft, and now you have weird hairs growing in your shoulders.