Tommy Tuberville, village idiot, applauds Alabama IVF ruling before finding out he has no idea what it actually does

MicroWave@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world – 562 points – Tommy Tuberville, Village Idiot, Applauds Alabama IVF Ruling Before Finding Out He Has No Idea What It Actually Does
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The senator did not seem to understand that the ruling on embryos would lead to fewer children being born, not more.

One of the most maddening aspects of the Republican plot to control women’s bodies is that, in many cases, these people couldn’t pass a ninth-grade biology class (and oftentimes, it’s more like fifth grade). Yes, from claiming an ectopic pregnancy can be reimplanted to suggesting that the anatomy of a human female is no different from that of, say, a dog or a horse, the conservatives trying to take away reproductive rights and bodily autonomy often have no idea what the f--k they’re talking about. And Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville is obviously no exception.

When asked on Thursday if he had “a reaction to the Alabama Supreme Court ruling on the fact that embryos are children,” Tuberville said, “Yeah, I was all for it. We need to have more kids, we need to have an opportunity to do that, and I thought this was the right thing to do.” Informed that IVF is a method by which people are able to have children when they otherwise could not, and that some clinics have paused the procedure as a result of the ruling, Tuberville responded, “Well, that’s for another conversation. We need more kids. We need people to have the opportunity to have kids.”

After another reporter asked what he had to “say to the women right now in Alabama who no longer have access to IVF, and will not, as a result of this ruling,” a clearly stumped Tuberville answered: “That’s a hard one. It really is. Really hard. ’Cause, again, you want people to have that opportunity…. We need more kids.”

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Oh my God.

Watched his interview— he is an absolute moron.

I would love to see a 1 hour round table discussion on this issue with Tuberville, Ron Johnson, Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene— and no moderator 😂

I’m a politically aware person. I read a lot of news, I enjoy my American polling to find out what people align with. That interview of Tuberville is horrifying. I’m use to disagreeing with these fuck wads, but this is a whole new level of stupid.

Tommy Tuberville is one of the most dangerous politicians in America and that man doesn’t have two fucking brain cells to rub together. I’m not sure if this is a mark of the average Alabama voter (probably) but holy fuck is this man an actual idiot. Green, Bobs, Johnson, even Gatez are all incredibly stupid, but Tuberville is dangerous, stupid and mentally deficient with actual power. He’s crippled our military, made a mockery of our political system and put god over party and country (and if I recall he’s even said the system in his view goes God, Party then Country).

As long as they are provided refreshments; perhaps plates of crayons, and some fizzy bleach.

Informed that IVF is a method by which people are able to have children when they otherwise could not, and that some clinics have paused the procedure as a result of the ruling, Tuberville responded, “Well, that’s for another conversation. We need more kids. We need people to have the opportunity to have kids.”

This man’s job description is as a representative of the people.

Sadly, he is representative of a great many people.

May we come in and share the gospel of trump with you?

They just want to make sure that the law banning abortion is so layered that removing it will be nearly impossible. The ones in power cheering this on can travel wherever they want to take care of whatever they need so it's not a law that applies to them.

The amount of energy wasted on this topic to distract us from all the other practical ways they fuck us is astounding. We should be talking about healthcare reform. We should be calling for major reform / bans on PAC money. We should be reversing things like sales taxes in favor of wealth taxes. We should be enshrining more labor rights in the fucking constitution.

Nope, let's all just focus on abortion and IVF. Problems that truly will never exist for the affluent (read: politically powerful or influential)

Sales tax is fine, with carve outs for food and essentials. Do you live somewhere that charges sales tax on food? Campaign for removing that and see if you can help.

In theory, sales taxes are great because they apply at the point where any given thing is entering the economy and not when it is produced (in effect, super efficient from a macroeconomic tax policy standpoint). In reality they have the largest negative impact on the poor/middle class and almost no impact on the rich. Basically, they take from those who can least afford it which is the opposite of an ideal tax system.

Sales taxes are also some of the biggest government bureaucracies that exist. The most complicated tax laws are all about sales taxes because they're the perfect place to punish types of consumption that are bad for society (e.g. cigarettes, gas guzzler taxes, etc). This leads to endless specifications about how much and whether or not sales tax should apply to any given good.

Income taxes are much better from an, "ideal tax system" standpoint. The only major flaw with them is the endless exemptions and loopholes that the US version has built up over time. If there weren't so many exceptions, exemptions, and complexity it would benefit everyone... Even those that endlessly lobby to lower their tax burden.

imo wealth taxes make the most sense. Tax every organization and individual equally. The ones with the most pay the most. The ones with nothing pay nothing.

Encourages spending what you have and not hoarding onto wealth for the sake of hoarding wealth.

imo the nonprofit system and tax exemption is broken. That's why you have incredibly affluent people who own and operate a "foundation" where all their wealth resides, because putting the wealth there was a tax writeoff and they are still the owner, beneficiary and controller of the assets that are no longer "theirs". Sauce: https://www.propublica.org/article/how-private-nonprofits-ultrawealthy-tax-deductions-museums-foundation-art

The rich spend a far lower proportion of their income than the poor. Which is why they like sales taxes.

Sales tax is fine

Show me how this does not disproportionately effect the bottom 50% and how it doesn't strongly favor the wealthy and then i'll agree with your statement that justifies the rest of what you're saying.

Sales tax is not fine. The poor pay more than the rich. This is a problem that lets the rich get richer while the poor have less and less.

"it's the birth rates. It's the birth rates. It's the birth rates."

  • Christchurch murderer's "manifesto"

Hey look, behind the tissue-thin facade of the 'sanctity of life' is not only deep-rooted misogyny but, whaddya know, more racism.

And they're so goddamn fucking stupid that they can't even do it right, and pass a law that does the fucking opposite.

At least until they get their handmaids assigned to them in a few years I guess.... Then there will be plenty of (white) kids!

Remember when trump was “predisent” and this kind of batshit turd circus was, like, a Wednesday?

I do not miss that. At all.

Rate we're going unless Trump strokes out its going to be another 4 years of this shit.

Putin has all hands on deck to make sure his boy gets back in but he is much sneakier this time. Well organized or well financed protests against Biden aren't as "spontaneous" as it seems. Many news articles that attack or deride Biden will be subtly influenced. Most will never suspect - that's the mark of good cyops and Russia may be the best.

*psyops - from psychological operations

No no no! It’s “spy” misspelled to hide it, and -ops from Octopus, because Putin and the spyze are like the testicles, wriggling around.

I'm also worried that if he doesn't win, he will run in every election for the rest of his life

Oh he knows what it actually does- it effectively criminalizes the sort of health care tangentially related to abortion, and when you've driven reproductive health care out of your state and made it illegal to travel to get it, you're that much closer to having total control over women's bodies. He doesn't give a shit about babies, he knows that defining embryos as babies will give reactionaries and jurists the ability to treat women of child-bearing age as presumptively criminal if they don't seem to know 'their place'.

The whole pretending-to-care-about-babies or life is just a pretext to make pursuit of the thing they really care about- controlling women- socially respectable.

Something else to think about.. IVF is expensive, so often only done by well-educated adults who have enough disposable income to go through with the procedure. This would result in well-fed, educated, healthy children, who we all know will be more likely to vote progressive, not join the military, not end up in the prison system etc. He doesn't just want babies, he wants poor babies.

He knows it hurts people, specifically women, and that makes him happy.

dumbest person in the senate, and that is really saying something.

Once Boebert gets voted out of the house, he'll be in the running for the dumbest person in all of Congress!

Yeah, it’s definitely between Tuberville and Ron Johnson for the dumbest dumb-dumb in the Senate.

There are a few smart Republicans and some that are politically savvy in a Machiavellian sense, but the vast majority of them are as dumb as rocks, although Tuberville is a special kind of moron. He's not even competent to be the village idiot.

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Hey, you show some respect!

He holds an important position in American society, and you should refer to him by the title he has earned.

You may call him Coach, you philistine!

Well, he is a Republican. Which means that he is not smart enough to be better.

There needs to be a "federal tutor" position that collates, issues, and grades tests given to the idiots voting on these laws. If you fail, your vote doesn't count.

No, a senator shouldn't have to know differential calculus nor a govenor, endocrinology. But they should be able to source people who can supply them with the right answers.

What you are describing was the original definition of “lobbyist.” They were supposed to be experts from their field who would assist and inform legislators in crafting related laws and regulations.

What they became was a legalized bribery machine.

Ah, there we go. I was sure it would be corrupted in some way to be shitty. I was banking on bullshit complaints about the nature of correctness, whenever some idiot failed the test. But buying it out directly is smarter.

They have access to such people any time they want. The problem is that experts never seem to tell them what they want to here.

A random hick with a mail order extremist evangelist pastor diploma isn't a real expert? Who would have thought.

His name conjures up a fetid town of incestuous slack-jawed yokels.

I see you've been to his constituency.

personally, i would like to know why more kids are needed exactly?

America's economic system depends on impossible infinite growth. Gotta have an infinitely growing population to keep that rolling.