Elon Musk finally says something we can all agree on: No one wants to have to log in with a Microsoft Account on Windows 11

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Elon Musk finally says something we can all agree on: No one wants to have to log in with a Microsoft Account on Windows 11
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Just like no one wants to sign into Twitter to read one tweet.

I mean, I don't like that either but it doesn't affect links to tweets.

Single tweets are rarely useful without being able to read some context that isn't visible without logging in.

It does however affect getting updates from government agencies, and others who insist on only disseminating real-time information to the public via Twitter.

For instance: https://twitter.com/WakaKotahiWgtn

This is the account for traffic events (road closures, traffic accidents, etc) in my city. Not signed in, the latest visible post is from February 2023.

Since I don't have a twitter account, this is now functionally useless.

the latest visible post is from February 2023

If you scroll down far enough, there are posts from March and August, but they were "less popular" tweets. Incredibly annoying move by twitter. Who wants to regularly view tweets sorted by "Top All Time"?

Go to the city's website, they should still have that information accessable via government sites. Buried, but it should still exist.

While true, the point is that Twitter does require sign in to view content, regardless of that information is elsewhere.

Have you tried contacting your government for this issue? From my experience public services are often open about Mastodon once they realize it's the same thing as Twitter, but accessible to everyone.

I have not. I personally don't live in a region where disaster notices are often necessary and I don't have offspring that I have to care for that may be affected, so I'm not really the demographic for the service. I do hope more and more start branching out to the likes of Mastodon or maybe better yet, hosting their own instances.

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This just in: broken clock is right twice a day.

He's literally wrong. You can set up windows 11 devices without a sign in.

While being wrong about this, the idiot forces sign in to use twitter...

Who gives a fuckingdickleshit about this asshole

No one. These are just bots shilling.

Everyone is a bot.

Even you ...

Each comment section hates the posts about elon yet they keep popping up as if it was interesting. I mean its clear to me, but hmm, what if i was a bot. That would be fun for a day.

Cool yeah, no one wants to have to log in with a Twitter account either.

How about we go a step further and say that I don't want to have to sign into ANY online account to access my computer.

If I disconnect my Ethernet cable, I can still log in and get work done. That should be the absolute MINIMUM that is expected of any operating system.

Linux is sometimes a royal pain in the ass, but it's for precisely that reason that it's important that it and Foss options like it are supported.

I also hate having to login every 10 minutes to another windows password shit because hey it's secure!

This shithead posts the stupidest shit and people make it viral.

I understand how people are fucked up about that

You don't have to. It isn't required. I setup end points everyday with local users.

For the general consumer Microsoft is making it as hidden as possible to make a local user during installation.

When I had to reinstall windows a month or two ago the option to make a local machine user was not there until I unplugged the ethernet or brought up a terminal to force the installer to show the option.

To be fair, for the average consumer there are huge advantages to using a MSA.

Both Windows Hello and OneDrive bring both security and convenience to non-technical people in a big way.

There is no good reason the average non-techie user should be using a local Windows account in a cloud world.

There's plenty of reason, especially looking at what's been happening in the last year.

I PAID for that computer (presumably with a hard drive) so why should I have to agree to my data being stored in someone elses server to be used to train the AI that will eventually land microsoft support services workers on the unemployment line?

Step one: I buy a computer.

Step two: Computer manufacture pays MS a licensing fee.

Step three: MS takes all of our data and trains their AI, which they can then monetize for use by other companies, making even more money.

Step four: Microsoft's AI replaces basic Frontline workers (tech support, help lines, bug tickets, etc...) saving even MORE money.

Why in the actual hell would I contribute to that?

So you classify yourself as an average consumer or a non-techie when it comes to computers?

I generally consider myself half-way between the two, leaning more towards techie than normal consumer. I use Linux, I know how a computer works and what all the hardware does. But I don't program (except for easy stuff like lua), I don't build Linux from scratch or compile source code, etc... etc... etc...

I just want a computer that works, and a computer that, if I unplug my internet, I can still log on and use my word processor, or drawing application, etc...

Business class is a different license. Likely enterprise or volume.

It requires some registry or command line crap to deal with it on consumer grade Windows.

Buy Microsoft you fucking coward

I'd be happy. But too late to make Windows 10's name Windows X, so it probably won't happen.

He's an idiot. You don't have to sign in to windows 11 to set it up, I literally do this daily. Not to mention corporate computers shouldn't be seeing the personal computer sign in screen to begin with unless it's in the hands of IT like me who would know what to do with it.

There used to be a skip button until about a month ago. Now, you just have to input bad creds and move forward.

Unlike Twitter, which actually locks down most of its site without an account...

Idiot just doesn't like getting called out for his idiocy and hypocrisy.

Oh, there’s no way Elon wants a machine with a company image on it.

He probably bought a Win11 S-mode laptop, not knowing what that was.

Wait until he uses Geforce Experience.. oh boy. Every time it makes me log in AND THEN VERIFY MY EMAIL.

Luckily AMD cards (and their control software) don't have this requirement.

No. Its pretty easy to work around. He just went right to twit to be a special baby boy.

Who uses Windows 11 anyway? I've personally been running Linux since 2017, and rarely have to touch Windows these days.

Who uses Windows 11 anyway?

Roughly 19.5% of all computers worldwide run Windows 11. While I don't know the exact number of computers in the world, that has to be in the multiple billions. So, yeah, a lot of people use Windows 11.

I'm going to log in with a burner Microsoft account on unactivated Windows 11 to spite both assholes.

You don't even need a Microsoft account. You can get around it with by using Rufus to create the Windows 11 installer.

I had to figure out the command to bring up the command console to not log in with a Microsoft account. It was super dumb. I had to turn something off in the system as a workaround, which meant a bunch of googling.

There is zero reason for me to have a Microsoft account associated with my computer just to use it.

Edit: This was on setup of the pc. Don't remember the commands, but should be easy to find on google.

You can get around it by disconnecting the Internet during setup

Used to work, not now.

SHIFT+F10

cd OOBE

bypassnro

Reboot.

and at the same time he only lets you use twitter with an account and killed thirdparty apps on mobile.

Can't believe I have to agree with this asshole for once.

Also, can't you just use pGina or GPO in place of a Microsoft account?

The more funny part of this statement is he's too fucking dumb to Google "set up windows 11 without Microsoft account" and follow exactly 3 steps to bypass the OOBE wizard.

They break whatever process people use whenever they feel like it.

Whether the loopholes are incompetence or just for the sake of them being able to claim "you don't need an account", they definitely aren't stable and consistent options. And it's pretty clear that at some point they're going to cross the line and just make you have an account.

What? Ctrl+F10 for Command Prompt and then oobe\bypassnro has always worked, and I don't see Microsoft removing it anytime soon. Who do you think put the bypassnro.bat script in the OOBE directory on every Windows installation media?

To be fair, the option is pretty easy to miss for someone who isn't technical. Font size -11000 and grwy or whatever, though I might exaggerate.