Intrusive thoughts

Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 925 points –

You would think it would make me feel better to know that every person has intrusive thoughts. But it doesn't at all, quite the opposite.

Yall are as crazy as I am, we are doomed.

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Thanks. In 10 years of soldering, never once had I had this thought. Now I can't unseen it! Damm

Just give in, do it to one spool, and you can move on with your life. Resistance only makes it hurt more.

That depends on the current and voltage

Back in the day I was told:

The volts give you the jolts
But the amps give you the cramps

No need for great resistance: all it takes is for a person to have a large capacity to stop being induced by such messages into doing such acts.

At worse you just get stuck in a loop of "should I do it or should I not do it".

Well, facebook shorts have plenty of people doing exactly this in their "amazing crafts" videos where a dude usually does something extremely stupid and hazardous. I eyeroll when one pops up now

I was going to say it might be junk solder, but the brand looks well reviewed. Maybe counterfeit? I just had to deal with a kid's first soldering kit containing "solder" with no listed alloy percentages. Couldn't solder worth a damn.

Oh this hurts physically. So much frustration when soldering with the small wires. So much wasted solder to save your fingers from burning.

Thanks. I hate it.

If your fingers are burning from soldering, you're doing it wrong.

From feeding tiny bits of solder. Not from soldering.

I prefer grabbing small amounts of solder with the tip of the soldering iron instead. Helps a lot when solderling small stuff, esp. smd components

I prefer adding solder while soldering. The solder itself also holds flux, and often when you do it that way you don't need to add flux yourself. Also if you solder through hole and you add solder to the tip before soldering all the flux dissappears, and you don't have enough solder for the weld.

And small amounts of solder doesn't mean short strips, which is what you get when you do what OP posted.

Source: I work in the circuit board population field. And do inspection and repairs.

I just hold the whole roll with a bit rolled out straight in one hand, and the iron in the other. I think I might be doing it wrong lol.

What do y'all expect?! I taught myself how to solder because my pokemon yellow cart died!

It really depends on whether it's soldering of SMD or THT components: it's a lot nicer to just feed the solder when doing through hole pins until it's just the right amount for that pin and as you pointed out the flux is in the solder, but if you're manually soldering SMD components with their tiny 0.5 mm legs or smaller, a tiny bit of solder on the tip of the iron is enough for 3 or 4 legs and the soldering wire (even the .3mm stuff) just gets in the way and even makes it much more likely to get solder bridges.

Mind you, I don't think SMD components are soldered in professional production settings since it's way simpler to just use a pick and place machine and a soldering oven, so it probably only matters for hobbyists.

To be fair, neither are typically hand soldered in profesional environments anymore (outside of rework). Surface mount stuff gets paste and sent through a reflow oven. Through hole stuff gets wave soldered or sent through a selective solder machine. The only thing I can think of that needs to be hand soldered anymore are batteries because sending a lithium ion battery through a reflow oven or over a pot of molten metal is a bad idea.

Also, fun side fact, lithium ion batteries also explode if you stick then in antistatic bags. I'll let you imagine how our inventory people discovered that.

Yeah, for smt I just use a heat gun or rework station for repairs. Only part I use an iron for that is when a lead didn't take. Even then, the solder is already there so just flux is enough.

I can’t picture what you’re talking about at all with regards to how you burn yourself. I’ve been soldering small wires and components (RC car hobbyist) for years and never burned myself.

Imagine the last part of the solder wire. Not much is left, but you want to use as much as you can, so you feed it anyway even though that last little part makes your finger come dangerously close to the iron.

Usually you just scrap the last part, but OP made a lot of small wires all along the roll, so either you scrap a lot, or burn your fingers trying to use up as much as you can.

Gotcha.

I’d use tweezers to feed it in that case lol.

Good thinking. In my field we don't do that. It takes more effort than you'd get out of it by that point. I just get a new roll. But if you're in a pinch and on your last roll, this is a great idea!

I've been soldering CNC machines and such, all I do is I wear a left hand welding glove. I can literally solder on my finger, or hold the wire right next to it. Probably a stupid thing to do, but well - I'm self learned :d

This is clever and I’m stealing it. Reckon those gloves could handle an oxy acetylene torch?

For sometime, yeah. Probably measured in miliseconds :D

Guess I’m stuck with titanium clamps and tweezers lmao

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I use a set of reverse tweezers to hold the tiny little pieces. It also helps to get your fingers out of the way so you can see what you're doing with really small parts.

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Was it satisfying? How did it feel? Don't be shy about details.

I'm... err... asking for a friend.

Nothing wrong with striking while the iron is hot

Melting crayons on oldschool incandescent lightbulbs was EXTREMELY satisfying as a kid

Somehow, and I honestly don't know how, I have passed by countless fire alarms in my life and resisted the urge to pull every one I see. It's been 46 years. Here's hoping my record will continue to be unbroken.

But my goodness, I've spent a long time resisting the History Eraser Button. Those alarms are even jolly and candylike!

I hope they weren't in California, that stuff causes cancer in California.

as a kid, I was the responsible for having the classroom's key in breaks for a while.

and deep down I always had an irresistable urge to throw that key out the window, to the road outside. never did... but... it was soooo tempting. no idea, why, though 😅

I sometimes have my rosin and solder paste in similiar containers next to each other. It happens everytime that I want to accidentally dip my soldering iron into the solder paste

I used to regularly mangle candles with paper clips I would heat up in the flame and then use to skewer them. There's something super cathartic about just melting the fuck out of things.

OMG your so literally cray-cray and quirky! Here's your participation trophy 🖕

I am not tempted by my intrusive thoughts, personally. Never understood the "intrusive thoughts won" meme. :P

You’ve never been near a ledge and thought, "what if I jumped?"

Never thought about dipping a finger in the blender or light socket?

Never thought of or touched something that you knew was way too hot?

Yes. All the time, and worse options besides. But there's no temptation to do those things. It`s more like I'm being reminded that those are options, that nothing besides my own will -- and the fact that I am in control of my body -- prevents me from doing them. It's scary. I hate it.

The part I don't get is the idea that other people claim to have voices urging them to do these things.

Do you have an inner monologue? Some people don’t and that’s okay but a lot of people do have a "voice" for their conscious thoughts.

But the other thing you described is intrusive thoughts. We think, "This is a thing I could do" and we mostly don’t do them bc we think about the consequences and our inhibitions kick in.

Yes, I have inner monologue. And yes I know what I am describing is intrusive thoughts.

I think if you're hearing actual voices urging you to do things that's a condition that should be addressed, that's not normal.

I am not hearing voices urging me to do things, don't worry :P

The people making these jokes don't understand actual intrusive thoughts.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, involuntary thoughts, images, or ideas that can be distressing or upsetting. They can also be called interfering thoughts. These thoughts can occur spontaneously or be triggered by internal or external stimuli. They can be strange, aggressive, or sexual.

The act shown in the picture is certainly an intrusive thought.

The act in the picture isn't a thought at all. It's the result of someone deciding to do something destructive to see the result. I can't imagine the thought "what if I stuck my soldering iron in the side of my solder spool" was that unwanted, distressing or upsetting, either. After all, OP decided to do it.

Doing it or not doing it doesn't change the type of thought it is, based on the definition. I reality we will never know, this could have been and most likely was planned. But assuming they didn't want to waste money and destroy a roll of solder, the thought could have been intrusive then acted on. The possibility is there.

In my understanding, intrusive thoughts is something like this: you`re walking along the street and pass a woman pushing a pram, and a thought pops up reminding you that you could kick it into the traffic if you wanted, and here's all the consequences. And because you're not a psycho you reel at the idea, wanting to smack your head for even imagining it. But there is no temptation, no urging. The thought cannot "win" because it is not trying to get you to do it, it's just an imagined possible scenario.

This is something different from having an impulse, which is something you could act upon as you describe. Or, I suppose, it is indeed to just decide to do something from your intrusive thoughts, but that seems unlikely because a key part of the definition of "intrusive thought" is that the thought must be unwelcome and/or distressing.

Yes but in your description of an intrusive thought you could still act on it, you just don't. But I'm sure there are people who at some point have.

I think your last sentence is close to where I sit. In my mind there is plenty of room for overlap between the two. You can have an intrusive thought with out without the impulse to do it. Yes it is distressing, but part of the intrusive thought is that sense of morbid wonder that I have to believe some people have acted on.

Also I'm no psychological expert or anything, I could be way off, it's just my take.

You also don't act on intrusive thoughts. This meme demonstrates an impulsive thought, not an intrusive one.

I doubt anyone wants to waste a whole roll of solder. It's an unwanted action that they had a thought about. That's the intrusive thought, they then just acted on it.

An intrusive thought is the thought, acting on it or not is separate.

I have to assume so. Mine are very much not welcome or tempting in the slightest.

Same. Which is why it's intrusive. But I guess it's cute for people to make light of others distressing neurological symptoms 🤷‍♂️

Yeah we`re both getting downvoted for this, it seems.

Because people literally don't understand impulsive vs intrusive thoughts. I'm sticking to my guns on this one. The hive mind is wrong.

In my mind the two don't have to be entirely separate even, there can be some overlap.

What is going on in the photo? I don't understand

He stuck the soldering iron right in the roll of solder. This pretty much ruins it.

Its a roll of solder which is melted to stick certain metals together and probably most well known for being used to stick electronic parts together. If you stab the soldering iron through it like this the roll would melt into itself and you would have to cut the strands off of the glob and use the cut pieces or just waste it and get a new one.

That truly sounds horrible. I totally get how this could be an intrusive thought.

I hope you step into a tub of Legos.

I hope you stub your little toe twice today.

May you only roll Natural Ones for your initiative.

May every cat you try to pet run away in fear.

It's just unnecessary. If you can't control yourself from harming others, animals or things, there is work to do.

I am not saying one can not have the thoughts of doing the wildest or weirdest things. Thoughts about options are okay but having an urge to commit diametral actions or even performing them seems somewhat pathologic to me.