Will 2025 be better or worse than 2024?

Camzing@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 83 points –
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Depends on November. Vote.

Does it though?

It'll get worse, or even way worser than worse.

Biden has done a lot of good in his first term, so there's no real reason to think it'll get worse in a second term.

That's the thing, there's like a 1% chance he actually wins... Democrats, not the DNC, are still pushing Biden to leave with the most recent news stating that he will not only cost us the presidency but the house as well.

Republicans will have full control to make absolutely whatever law they wish with a very friendly SCOTUS picked specifically for their willingness to enact the heritage foundations most vile wishes... The future is insanely bleak in the US. :(

Okay, so what are you proposing exactly?
Just hand it to them?

Of course not, I was just commenting on the fact that I seriously doubt there will even be a second term.

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Things only get worse now

Eh, pretty much this. Think about the problems we have been facing, and then consider whether there has been any progress toward making them better. Climate change, no. Access to housing and medical care, no. Economic disparity, no. Political polarization and fascist sentiments, no. Extend those lines into the future, and, realistically, things are only getting worse.

I've never seen things get better, only worse in a different direction.

We slotted into the wrong timeline when Al gore lost.

I try not to go down that rabbit hole. 9/11 possibly doesn't happen and that changes everything.

Or even better, Carter wins a second term in 1980, no trickle down economics. Corporations are kept under control. Taxes on ultra wealthy stay in place...

The result of the US elections are the tipping point either way for the whole world, and every country is awaiting what will happen.

One side drops the world in misery, from the full destruction of Ukraine and it's people, to an intense war in the EU and the Koreas.Taiwan as a country will cease to exist, as will its chip production. Not to mention the deep scarring that will take place within the US itself where it will see the Constitution torn up. America First, but as a consequence it loses power and status everywhere else for years to come.

The other possibility is that starting in 2025 the current big worldwide conflicts will be resolved semi peacefully, a slow growth to more financial prosperity and equality sets in plus a number of billionaires will need to pay some of their taxes, but international treaties and trades will be reinforced.

I am really hoping for the latter, because if the outcome is the first, we'll see a least a decade of chaos and economic downfall everywhere.

So, my choice is made, it will be better in 2025

Im somewhat of a doomer and I see a steady overall decline. so for me its a choice of a lot worse or a little worse which is also a no brainer for me because I prefer slightly bad to real bad but Im wierd like that.

Every year, fewer people starve, and more children live to adulthood

So, even if it feels pointless, do the little things that make the world better. The effects will only be noticeable when enough people join, but every step counts and has the chance to motivate others

I genuinely want to feel hopeful but what if the lens we are using zooms outward to include animal and plant life? Every year feels like more and more death occurs.

Depends on where you live. If you're in the United States, you should definitely be preparing for a imminent incoming recession.

Feel like I've heard this constantly for the last 2-3 years at least. I guess if you keep saying it, someone will eventually hit the right timing and claim credit for having predicted a recession.

Have a look at the unemployment data which just recently hit 4.1% the household jobs survey versus what the government says.l and theres a gap of like 600,000 jobs the government claims that households cant find, consumers have spent themselves into a wall and are pulling back, etc. With inflation being as high as it was and is if it's above GDP then we actually have negative growth.

Maybe, maybe not. I just know that people who try to predict the future are wrong most of the time, especially when it comes to the economy and trying to time the markets. Never works.

Oh, I definitely wouldn't be shorting, or something like that, as I do not have the timing prediction powers for that. Even if I am right, being right in a timeframe is the real problem.

Some parts will be better, others will be worse

At least in the US, depends on how the elections go in November. It’s another nail biter and I’m not sure which way the election will go, but I am reasonably sure of the paths that follows each option.

As for the rest of the world, I’ve got my own problems.

At least in the US, depends on how the elections go in November.

US, Taiwan, Ukraine, Poland, Baltics, Europe as a whole...

I'm hoping it'll be better for me despite everything going on politically. I should be done with a treatment that, fingers tentatively crossed, will help my depression, my therapist just entered a pact with me and we're both gonna start walking four times a week at minimum, and I'll hopefully have dropped the ten pounds in trying to lose by then.

Of course, I'm American, so probably none of this matters if the GOP takes control. People like me are first on the chopping block for conservative genocide, and part of project 2025 is to completely eliminate any and all legal protections for people like me.

So, I hope it'll be better and I won't get hate murdered. Fingers crossed!

While it's not feasible for everyone. Getting a dog was the best thing for my emotional and physical well being. My dog tripped the steps I get per day. Plus, she's a relentless alarm clock in the morning.

If shit box wins, buy a shot gun, first thing on my list. Better than a hand gun for home defense.

When I was a kid, and a teen, I was optimistic. I always felt that things could only get better. Why? Because as humans we all work towards things getting better. So they would. Because how could they not??? Billions of people all working together in unity, for a better tomorrow. What could go wrong???

I did not take one key piece of information into account. The fact that people are ASSHOLES!!!

I was imagining a world where internet speeds get faster and faster. And with new advancements would come new technologies. I imagined a world where you could prick yourself the same way diabetes patients do, dip a strip into your blood, and it would use the internet to tell you all your health issues instantly, and for cheap.

I imagined a world where cars were solar powered, and came with butt massagers.

I imagined a world where nobody smoked cigerettes. Which would lead to a massive decrease in cancer.

I imagined a world where teleportation were possible. Transport yourself from NYC to Sydney in 3 seconds.

I imagined all these crazy things that might be possible if all the top minds were all working like a collective hive to solve the pressing issues.

But I forgot people were assholes. Everything is political. People would rather a good idea didn't happen if they couldn't take credit for it....even if they had nothing to do with it.

People would rather large populations starve, and suffer from preventitive diseases if they can't profit from the solutions.

People would rather willingly go forward with known bad ideas if it meant their enemies suffer with them through the bad times too.

So adult me knows that NO. The future is not bright. It's not a fear of the unknown. It's an educated guess of the obvious. The world is shit. It's always been shit. It's always going to be shit.

Adult me is sad.

It depends, and there’s no middle ground ….

  • I have a great job but we might go public in 2025. So cue the layoffs
  • National Politics will have more impact on our lives than ever: will it be fascism trying to break give or will it be a democracy trying to improve our lives?
  • My youngest is graduating high school in 2025: lots of pride but an empty lonely home and huge tuition bills coming my way

If you don't already know a close crew of friends, I would suggest starting an Empty Nesters In Training group.

Get together once or twice a month or so, makes the transition easier for when your kid graduates HS for college.

And also good luck with the job!

I have a great job but we might go public in 2025. So cue the layoffs.

Most layoffs when companies go public are usually to support staff. They don't want to do anything that can affect revenue for the first few years.

Yes, the downside of DevOps/DevSecOps. For short term thinkers, the whole point is to automate yourself out of a job

Like any kingdom, really depends on the king that rules. Trump will form the Nazi party and start stripping away more balances of power, but Biden will hopefully start restoring the democracy.

I'm struggling with answering this question. I mean, obviously, I don't know. I could give an opinion on what I think is most likely to happen, but what does it matter? Like, legitimately, what does it matter? And I do mean it earnestly, what would it matter even if I just so happened to be right about my speculation?

We all certainly hope that 2025 will be better. But I think the important thing to remember is that 2025 being better is possible. In fact, I used to be a homophobic ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian bigot. In my remorse over the person I used to be, I noticed I felt shame rather than self-righteousness over my condemnation of people just being who they are. In my longing to undo the evil I committed in the past, I realized I have the opportunity to fight for good, even if it means fighting what feels like my own reflection. I got better. I still have a ways to go and even more internalized prejudice I need to demolish, but at least I know getting better is possible, because I did it before goddammit. And if a dickhead like me can be better, can't we all?

And even if things just turn to absolute shit, I know I can at least make my tiny corner of the world a little bit brighter if I can make myself better. And you know what? I think it's good enough for me to know that I can start doing something about that right now. Afterall, as Marcus Aurelius would say to himself; It is up to you!

It will be a test that none of us have the answers for. And that is a scary thought.

I've lived through the cold War, have followed geopolitics for over 30 years, it has never been this hot.

Humans are our own worst enemies. Whether it's us fucking ourselves, fucking each other, or fucking the planet, it does seem we're all gonna be fucked sooner or later at the going pace of things.. ☹️

I feel like I'm bracing for impact. I think it's gonna get a lot fucking worse.

Depends on your point of view. Where? For whom?

In my case, in my corner of the world, it's already pretty good, and ot looks like 2025 is going to be slightly better

Nothing will ever be as good as 1996 was.

Independence Day in theaters, Seinfeld on TV, The Macarena all over the place. Hell yeah, '96.

Nintendo 64 came out. Pokemon, Quake, Duke Nuke 3D, Command and Conquer red alert, Kirby Superstar, Metal Slug, Twisted Metal 2, Tomb Raider, and not awesome games came out.

Daft Punk released their debut album. The Spice Girls debuted. 2Pac released his last album before his death. Space Jam released in theaters, along with Mars Attacks, and the first Tom Cruise Mission Impossible.

On a personal note, I think I had the most friends at once in 1996. School was going well. I was getting old enough that I had more independence as a teenager and could go out to see friends. Life was good.

For me personally? Most likely worse, so far 2024 has been good with unusually few issues. I expect 2025 to regress to the mean amount of misfortune.

People have to want things to get better. If people vote blue in November then we will have an opportunity to make things better. If the fascists take power, they will kills millions of people.

Nope not where I live (us) as someone who is heavily a minority, it's just going to get worse and worse because of Amerikkkas direction into Nazism 2.0

Yep

Yep.

Bad things are gonna happen regardless. Good things are going to happen regardless. There's the things in the news, the things in your community, the things in your friend and family groups, and the things that happen to you on your day to day.

While it's important to focus on the problems we face and the changes we can make, we also need to focus on the wins no matter how small. Mere pessimism isn't enough. Mere optimism isn't enough. Mere anything isn't enough because life isn't that simple.

Take time to mourn, but fight against the waves of despair that want to drown you.

"Hope is the thing with feathers

That perches in the soul

It songs the tune without the words

And never stops at all"

2024 is good for me so far, but I’m going to finish my bachelor’s degree in 2025 and still have no real clue what I want to do after (very likely something that has nothing to do with the degree though). So it’s completely up in the air lol. But hopefully I’ll find something I actually want to do and enjoy.

* shrugs * Depends on what happens during it, I guess. I'm a chronic worrier and anxiety haver, but even I feel that this question is a bit too premature.

For anyone worried about the future, I recently stumbled upon this video which hopefully can put things in perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGmdvdXoJ-8

I think it will be better. I think trump will lose. I’ll graduate in December, I just got married, and we’re going to move out of my in-laws house sometime in the spring trading suburbia for a coastal urban city. I’m going to make new friends and have kids and ask them questions which will prepare them to be good and thoughtful citizens and whatever else they choose to become.

At this point you may, and rightly so, assume that mine are rose tinted glasses. However as a hobbiest student of history I’ve come to the conclusion that the world is always on fire. Humanity tends to have a bias towards bad news, and there is plenty of bad news around, but cynicism only incentivizes inaction. If we want to give the world the best chance for happiness in our time, to honor the legacy of those forebears who strove to build the better world of today, then we have to acknowledge the good.

This doesn’t mean ignoring the bad, or giving up on the better, but we have to immerse ourselves in the electrifying notion that civilization has moved over the past 200+ years gradually, with new and terrible acts of inhumanity along the way, toward better lives for the average human. We have a duty to fight for that trend so that we in our old age can scoff at the perceived slights of our progeny as our parents and elders do now. The disconnect between the generations in some ways can stand as a testament to the progress that has been achieved.

They don’t make cardboard like they used to so I’m going to get off my soap box before it sloughs into a pile of microplastics.

Unless you are already retired, and often even then, for you personally it has an extremely good chance of getting better, even if only slightly. More life experience often translates into ability to convert new things heading your way into less suckiness. Pro-Tip: lean into that for even better results - get married, or perhaps divorced, ditch Windows if you haven't already, etc. Don't let life pass you by - enjoy it!:-)

But the trajectory won't be as high as it would have been previously for someone a few years ago, and for all of us overall that trajectory will be objectively worse. Especially minorities bc fuck them all, apparently - says the Leopards Surely Won't Eat My Face Off party. Oh well - anyone who thinks life is supposed to be fair hasn't been paying attention (especially since the late 70s with the advent of corporations that can shirk legal duties that the rest of us cannot, like they can die and in so doing offer massive payouts to the board members at the expense of the customers, etc.). On the other hand, as the suffering increases comes the possibility of finally waking up and doing something meaningful - apes together strong. In the meantime, refer back to the first paragraph, for now.

The good thing is that we’ve had these types of corporations before in the guilded age and eventually we passed laws to break them up and instilled labor laws, while these protections have atrophied we can build them up again.

If we only would do so... but with globalization and automation, it seems that the interests of the wealthy no longer align with democracy, hence the latter looks more poised to give way than the former.

Worse, based on trends over the last couple decades.

I don't know, I just want to socialize more, even if that's while fighting at the front.

It will be good for me because my jelquing will finally pay off.

The glass will go from half-full to half-empty.

...seriously, I don't think that '25 will be meaningfully better or worse than '24.