JD Vance calls Trump ‘morally reprehensible’ in resurfaced emails

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JD Vance calls Trump ‘morally reprehensible’ in resurfaced emails
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Vance also said he was “outraged at Trump’s rhetoric, and I worry most of all about how welcome Muslim citizens feel in their own country. And there have always been demagogues willing to exploit the people who believe crazy shit. What seems different to me is that the Republican party offers nothing that’s as attractive as the demagogue.”

Exploit the people who believe crazy shit. Exactly what Vance is doing now that he’s sided with the demagogue.

Vance is even worse than a narcissist. He knows better and chooses to be evil for his own self-interest. I get why Trump likes him. He understands a life being driven by self-interest. And he knows Vance will burn everything down to advance he and Trump’s interests.

These people are the worst indeed. They know it's wrong, they know it's evil but they're still doing it and doubling down whenever they can, just to get some power.

Fucking sociopaths.

Vance was the liberal heartthrob until he went full MAGA so that he could become a senator.

As a self-associated 'liberal,' I'd never once even heard of the guy before Trump picked him. That said, I'm not from his state, and it seems like literally everyone there hates him, so maybe the two are related.

Either way, calling him a "heartthrob" might be embellishment.

If we are lucky he is a trojan horse. Doubt it, but we could dream

Oh, he is 100% a Trojan horse, but the people he's a Trojan horse for are just as bad. Basically every shitty money-man in Silicon Valley that imagined himself a Randian Superman.

JD Vance claimed he we was "just kidding" after texts saying he hated the police resurfaced after it was revealed he was arrested for breaking into an IKEA and abusing two dozen couches in one night.

… Abusing how?

Since apparently it wasn't glaringly obvious to you, that comment was a joke.

It was obvious, I just wanted to play. Something you don’t know how to do.

Every single trump voter is morally reprehensible. Fucking traitors.

Conservatives in general. Utterly without fail, I'm immediately repelled, uncanny valley style, whenever I accidentally trip into a conversation with one. Pray tell, what are they conserving except "shit for myself".

A medieval world view, near as I can tell.

Pure jibbering, full-bodied, eyes wide, fear. Masked (poorly) by hatred, and xenophobia. Never resting. Always fearful, always cynical; always a new enemy just around the corner.

That's the vibe I get anyway.

I'm left, and one of my best friends is right.

Sure, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of politics, but we do have a lot of common ground. Even get into arguments now and again. But we always end up seeing things a little different and then telling some jokes about each other's parties after.

Immediately writing someone off because of a political view of a great way to get into an echo chamber.

Depends, some of us happen to belong to minorities that the conservative right are actively working to oppress, and that's not really something one can tolerate.

It'd be one thing if it was a disagreement about what colour to paint the new children's hospital.

But when they want ethnics in shit jobs for shit pay, queers dead, and AFAB barefoot and pregnant - they can fuck right off.

You're either privileged enougb to not belong to a minority your friend is actively voting to destroy or extremely forgiving. Either way, good for you.

Trump doesn't want a VP, he wants a doormat that will never pose a challenge to his power.

And the elite that picked Vance want to use Trump’s VP slot as a back door into getting someone as awful as Vance as president without having to go through voters. He’s somehow even worse than Trump. Trump is vain conman. Vance is the real deal.

I love all this shit talking of Vance’s the press keeps digging up. And there seems to be so much of it! I’d love to see a steady drop of this all the way to Election Day, just to dig at Trump.

This is how Trump flexes his power. He owns those who once stood against him. To the weak minded- that’s all it takes.

Seems like Republicans need some work on their vetting process.

They had hoped it would demonstrate that fence-riding hardliners could be swayed to Trump's side. All it did was show that one was willing to sell out and fake it for a chance at the high chair.

With all the donor money passing hands to make Trump's campaign happen, the VP choice might have been over his head. Vance seems more like a pick the Heritage Foundation (Project 2025) would've made imo.

Trump promised “heavy vetting” in his last campaign!

That tiny part of me that loves stupid conspiracies keeps saying they picked him because his name sounds like Pence and either Donnie liked a name he sort of recognized, or if he says "Pence" by accident they can play it off.

Weird man who ejaculates into inanimate couches calls running mate and fellow sexual deviant Trump, ‘morally reprehensible’

If your biggest issue with the guy is fucking inanimate objects then you're not looking hard enough.

That may not be the biggest issue, but it's definitely the easiest to mock him over, and when you're a politician who needs your own voter base to take you seriously... Mockery is perhaps deadlier than getting called out for being a stain on humanity.

Weird man who ejaculates into inanimate couches

Which part of that is "morally reprehensible"?

This is just a simple reading comprehension error.

Vance “the couch fucker” is the one who called Trump morally reprehensible.

However, nobody said that the weird man ejaculating into couches was morally reprehensible. But I will say it is very weird.

I don't think this guy understands morals - I think he was parroting that opinion. He seems to lack any genuine empathy.

To a certain subset of the population, morals have nothing to do with understanding or caring about the people around you. To them, morals are just a set of rules handed down from someone in perceived authority, and those rules must be followed without question and without room for nuance.

Couch fucker isn't wrong. Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence is very much morally reprehensible.

while he isn't wrong, couchfuckers should also speak for themselves...

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What I'd really like to know is if JD Vance would do something unconstitutional for Trump. If he wouldn't, and that could be the case since the man is just clearly an act, then you know what, he could be the best running mate for Trump because of how much he will eventually undermine him.

But I sort of feel that he will eventually get replaced by someone far, far worse, probably someone like Tucker Carlson. They will also wait to do it closer to the election, and I think it's why they might be projecting so much against Biden changing to Harris, they want to make the possibility impossible to oppose or at least make it so that it attracts controversy so that it is more difficult to make an issue of the many skeletons Tucker Carlson has in his closet. It's clear that Tucker Carlson has been getting pampered for a position of power in the US for quite a while.

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