As somebody told me the other day, they beat Hitler, they beat Napoleon.
In case any of you lurking Trump voters here need another example to ignore of how this person has no business in government and is too ignorant to be president. You are complicit in an impending tragedy to your history and the world.
This guy says he is the one who can stop World War III and people believe it. Embarrassing and terrifying, weird just doesn’t cut it.
Trump voters don't care, dude. They are more ignorant than he is.
Many of them believe they need to help fulfill biblical prophesy in order to hasten the last battle of armageddon so that they may rule the world as kings for christ. Many of whom work in government and military groups.
Many of whom work in government and military groups.
Pence is one of them. Christian dominionists... Fucking nutjobs.
Imagine worshipping a god but also trying some "Jesus hates this one neat trick to make him arrive early!" bullshit...
How many believe that?
They think they want WW3 (or civil war 2). Gonna be a massive wakeup call if they actually find out what that really means. It ain't gonna be like the movies.
LoL, yeah.
And they beat the Nazis with a looooot of help from the US, pooring equipment into the Soviet Union, and then drafted the hell out of their country and sacrificed millions.
The Napoleonic war was when soldiers muzzle loaded their guns and prrimarily armies travelled by foot or rode horses. And kept warm in the winter by normally not going out to fight wars.
They also very much had the advantage of knowing their terrain and both Hitler and Napoleon got cocky and kept going during winter time without being prepared for it. Hitler especially was actually making good progress until winter hit so you could almost even say that Russia took a calculated risk (even though I think it's more of a "got lucky" situation).
Not to mention the disingenuousness of leaving out how they lost to Hindenburg and Ludendorff in between those two
Reminder that when it was Napoleon "defending" (battles vs the coalitions), he absolutely handled Emperor Alexander (Russia) ass in the field. See Austerlitz
Yeah people seem to think nuclear powers cannot lose wars. Afghanistan, Vietnam and several other countries would like to chime in.
Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it's a lot harder than people think. And now with the recent sarmat test, war on Russian soil, the broad attacks on Russian infrastructure, gigantic losses and Russia relying on north Korea for production of artillery shells.. Russia looks weaker than ever.
Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it’s a lot harder than people think.
For two reasons in this case.
Russia knows that the wind can blow radioactive ash across their border.
Putin has grandchildren and dictators want legacies.
The other people in Putin's administration also have their own families and interests and wouldn't want that put at risk by nuclear annihilation. Even if Putin himself tried to give the go-ahead, I doubt those in charge of the nukes would want to effectively commit suicide over Putin's stupid invasion by firing them.
As if this is what was needed to prove it. Trump once answered a question about the failings of western liberalism by talking about how liberal cities on the west coast were doing badly.
He really is a remarkably stupid person.
The only person who can stop WW3 and also “save the country”, which according to him is a smoking husk.
His base doesnt give a shit about world war 3, they just want america to fuck off front the rest of the world.
I don't believe trump would follow through on that, but thats what he's promising.
Hi, yes, it's me here, I vote for trump.
Not really, I'm a troll, and otherwise there are fukin zero trump voters here. You also ban anyone even trying to say anything pro trump.
So save yourself your keyboard war. You're like a kid fighting with tall grass.
Also, get the f out of the world news sub.
I'm sure none of you need me to tell you this, but I feel the need to say it anyway- Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.
It's really fucking different when you are being invaded. Than when you are the invader.
Someone told Trump those things happened. He has no grasp on any of the details.
I wonder what his response would be if someone told him Poland never surrendered to Hitler either, moved it's government and attacked back and took back their home. Thereby Polands record against Hitler would be 1-0. It also would indicate they survived the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland as well.
Poland's leaders also never signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler. They knew better.
The Soviets were complete jackasses to their allies. For example, they refused to allow American bombers to launch raids on Japan from eastern Russia, forcing the Allies to do a brutal island-hopping campaign to get them within range.
Then, when a few B-29s were too damaged to make the long flight back to the island and diverted to Russia, they confiscated the planes and imprisoned their crews until the end of the war.
Then, after the war, they dismantled two of the planes so they could figure out how to build a good airplane and claimed it as their own and called it the Tu-4.
Oh, and they also threw Andrei Tupolev into a gulag because he couldn't meet Stalin's insane demands.
Nah this would just unlock a new trove of racist tropes for him
I know, I just had to point out why it was so stupid or it would have killed me.
Napoleon and Hitler couldn't but Emperor Meiji (1905), Kaiser Wilhelm (1917), President Piłsudski (1920) and the Mujahideen (1980s) managed just fine, just to mention the 20th century.
IIRC even sweden kicked some ruski butt.
Edit: Finland for sure! My memory about sweden was that it happened way before WW2.
Finland
Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.
Every politician tripping on power dream is to accomplish what they could not. Watch out for the propaganda against other countries, especially when it comes from a government full of shit.
Sorry... are you saying Trump didn't bring those up?
orange turd claims to want to pull US out of NATO, whose primary adversary is Russia
Right-wing groups outright shown to be funded by Russia
orange turd has been known to be friendly with, and speak positively of, leaders of Russia, N Korea, and China... knowingly not to be friendly with NATO nations.
If this doesn't scream to you where his loyalties are and where this country is headed...
he had a private meeting with putin where no translators or notes were allowed.
how the fuck can republicans want him for president?
how the fuck can republicans want him for president?
Maybe because the Russians backed him as their candidate in 2016, 2020, and now in 2024 (the enemy of my enemy and all that), the Russians have been buying Republican support wholesale since at least then, the Republicans have always valued money and power over all else, and the few Republicans who had qualms about it are long gone?
Just some ideas.
it was a rhetorical question.
the answer is they're fucking traitors.
he had a private meeting with putin where no translators or notes were allowed.
Shit, somehow I forgot about this one. Unbelievable the shit this man was able to get away with.
Russian asset
Russian Asshat
Trump is a corrupted politician who serve rich people and corporations interests. They are an asset of the government and of the establishment. USA military spending is about 10 times bigger than russia. USA has hundreds of military facilities in europe and probably thousand around the world. They have the biggest and most advanced army in the world, they have more weapons in space than anyone else, they have the biggest mass surveillance network in the world. They are the country with the biggest corporations in the world and with the biggest leverage on worldwide markets. To think that the former ceo of usa is an asset of the "enemy" to me sounds like a poorly credible scenario and propaganda. Isn't more likely that the red and blue party are playing a good cop bad cop game to cycle in power like they have done for almost a century?
Russia has a world class intelligence service, they've got that one thing going for them.
Trump is absolutely compromised by the Russians and has been for decades.
Russia has a world class intelligence service, they’ve got that one thing going for them.
So does USA and it's ten time as big as russia.
It isn't an American plant getting elected in Russia, but the other way around, isn't it?
Nah, it's a lot more likely that Russia's got trump by the balls. It's about a billion times more likely than your illuminati conspiracy.
Do you also believe the earth is flat? It's about the same odds I think, altho I'm no mathematician;
Do you know that during the cold war USA supported masonic lodges (aka the illuminati) around the world as part of their stay behind operations?
It’s about a billion times more likely than your illuminati conspiracy.
Again USA spend way more billions than russia in warfare. I encourage you to research about USA military capabilities and their current deployment of forces around the globe.
None of that has anything to do with the Dems and GOP being in cahoots to control the country.
Also, the illuminati and freemasons are two different societies, get your conspiracies straight, please.
None of that has anything to do with the Dems and GOP being in cahoots to control the country.
USA military complex doesn't change when red or blue are in power.
Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press
-- Donald Trump, July 27, 2016
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You're so bad at this.
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Trump doesn't know the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia.
Because that's what Putin wants his minions to believe.
Ukraine were largely the force that defeated the Nazis on the east front in WWII - not Russia. Both were however part of the Soviet Union at the time.
Ethnic Russians were the largest proportion of the killed in action by quite a margin, let's not pretend that they weren't doing their part. Ukraine was too, of course - the people that pretend Ukraine just jumped ship and shacked up with the Nazis at the first opportunity are doing an unbelievable disservice to the millions of Ukrainians that died fighting the Nazis - but the huge population disparity between Russia and every other Soviet republic does show in the data.
Nah, Ukrainians served in disproportionately large numbers considering most of Ukraine was occupied by the Nazis, but ethnic Russians contributed roughly equivalent to their proportion of the Soviet Union.
Fuck this worthless fucking piece of shit.
Apologies ahead of time for the coarse opinion, but this shitbag has no remote concept of the preciousness of any life aside of his own.
Putin should clean his fat suit more often.
At least chip off the ketchup wads every full moon
Traitor
This should make the tankies happy right? No more funding warfare.
It could not be clearer. Nine years ago I felt like Cassandra, now I just feel like Ren Hoek.
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Meh, doubt that. Russian incompetence has lead to far inferior efficiency of troops and tools of war. Any advantage they once held is gone.
Quantity is a quality of its own. I’d say Ukraine is hanging on with advanced weaponry. It needs the mass to push Russian troop advances and repel their forces out of their country.
Anything else is keeping the status quo of roughly even wins and losses, which will never lead to victory in the next decade.
I believe that in the entirety of 2023 Russia claimed another 518 km despite heavy military losses? Yeah, doesn't look good for Russia.
Russia claimed and held territory. Their military leadership doesn’t particularly value human lives in this conflict and hasn’t historically either. I have no doubt that they will continue the course suffering heavy human losses and eventually find some form of victory.
Ukraine needs more people if they want any hope of staving that eventuality off. The Russians have very different ideas of fighting a war of attrition.
Ukraine needs ammo, not troops.
Human wave attacks (favoured by the Russians) are effective against opponents who have to ration their ammo, like arty rounds, due to scarcity.
If the defender has sufficient anno reserves, human wave attacks become very, very ineffective.
In case any of you lurking Trump voters here need another example to ignore of how this person has no business in government and is too ignorant to be president. You are complicit in an impending tragedy to your history and the world.
This guy says he is the one who can stop World War III and people believe it. Embarrassing and terrifying, weird just doesn’t cut it.
Trump voters don't care, dude. They are more ignorant than he is.
Many of them believe they need to help fulfill biblical prophesy in order to hasten the last battle of armageddon so that they may rule the world as kings for christ. Many of whom work in government and military groups.
Pence is one of them. Christian dominionists... Fucking nutjobs.
Imagine worshipping a god but also trying some "Jesus hates this one neat trick to make him arrive early!" bullshit...
How many believe that?
They think they want WW3 (or civil war 2). Gonna be a massive wakeup call if they actually find out what that really means. It ain't gonna be like the movies.
LoL, yeah.
And they beat the Nazis with a looooot of help from the US, pooring equipment into the Soviet Union, and then drafted the hell out of their country and sacrificed millions.
The Napoleonic war was when soldiers muzzle loaded their guns and prrimarily armies travelled by foot or rode horses. And kept warm in the winter by normally not going out to fight wars.
They also very much had the advantage of knowing their terrain and both Hitler and Napoleon got cocky and kept going during winter time without being prepared for it. Hitler especially was actually making good progress until winter hit so you could almost even say that Russia took a calculated risk (even though I think it's more of a "got lucky" situation).
Not to mention the disingenuousness of leaving out how they lost to Hindenburg and Ludendorff in between those two
Reminder that when it was Napoleon "defending" (battles vs the coalitions), he absolutely handled Emperor Alexander (Russia) ass in the field. See Austerlitz
Yeah people seem to think nuclear powers cannot lose wars. Afghanistan, Vietnam and several other countries would like to chime in.
Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it's a lot harder than people think. And now with the recent sarmat test, war on Russian soil, the broad attacks on Russian infrastructure, gigantic losses and Russia relying on north Korea for production of artillery shells.. Russia looks weaker than ever.
For two reasons in this case.
Russia knows that the wind can blow radioactive ash across their border.
Putin has grandchildren and dictators want legacies.
The other people in Putin's administration also have their own families and interests and wouldn't want that put at risk by nuclear annihilation. Even if Putin himself tried to give the go-ahead, I doubt those in charge of the nukes would want to effectively commit suicide over Putin's stupid invasion by firing them.
As if this is what was needed to prove it. Trump once answered a question about the failings of western liberalism by talking about how liberal cities on the west coast were doing badly.
He really is a remarkably stupid person.
The only person who can stop WW3 and also “save the country”, which according to him is a smoking husk.
His base doesnt give a shit about world war 3, they just want america to fuck off front the rest of the world.
I don't believe trump would follow through on that, but thats what he's promising.
Hi, yes, it's me here, I vote for trump.
Not really, I'm a troll, and otherwise there are fukin zero trump voters here. You also ban anyone even trying to say anything pro trump.
So save yourself your keyboard war. You're like a kid fighting with tall grass. Also, get the f out of the world news sub.
I'm sure none of you need me to tell you this, but I feel the need to say it anyway- Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.
It's really fucking different when you are being invaded. Than when you are the invader.
Someone told Trump those things happened. He has no grasp on any of the details.
I wonder what his response would be if someone told him Poland never surrendered to Hitler either, moved it's government and attacked back and took back their home. Thereby Polands record against Hitler would be 1-0. It also would indicate they survived the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland as well.
Poland's leaders also never signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler. They knew better.
The Soviets were complete jackasses to their allies. For example, they refused to allow American bombers to launch raids on Japan from eastern Russia, forcing the Allies to do a brutal island-hopping campaign to get them within range.
Then, when a few B-29s were too damaged to make the long flight back to the island and diverted to Russia, they confiscated the planes and imprisoned their crews until the end of the war.
Then, after the war, they dismantled two of the planes so they could figure out how to build a good airplane and claimed it as their own and called it the Tu-4.
Oh, and they also threw Andrei Tupolev into a gulag because he couldn't meet Stalin's insane demands.
Nah this would just unlock a new trove of racist tropes for him
I know, I just had to point out why it was so stupid or it would have killed me.
Napoleon and Hitler couldn't but Emperor Meiji (1905), Kaiser Wilhelm (1917), President Piłsudski (1920) and the Mujahideen (1980s) managed just fine, just to mention the 20th century.
IIRC even sweden kicked some ruski butt.
Edit: Finland for sure! My memory about sweden was that it happened way before WW2.
Finland
Every politician tripping on power dream is to accomplish what they could not. Watch out for the propaganda against other countries, especially when it comes from a government full of shit.
Sorry... are you saying Trump didn't bring those up?
orange turd claims to want to pull US out of NATO, whose primary adversary is Russia
orange turd saying he'll stop funding Ukraine's defense against Russian invasion
Right-wing groups outright shown to be funded by Russia
orange turd has been known to be friendly with, and speak positively of, leaders of Russia, N Korea, and China... knowingly not to be friendly with NATO nations.
If this doesn't scream to you where his loyalties are and where this country is headed...
he had a private meeting with putin where no translators or notes were allowed.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344
he stole national security secrets including nuclear secrets.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65852286
how the fuck can republicans want him for president?
Maybe because the Russians backed him as their candidate in 2016, 2020, and now in 2024 (the enemy of my enemy and all that), the Russians have been buying Republican support wholesale since at least then, the Republicans have always valued money and power over all else, and the few Republicans who had qualms about it are long gone?
Just some ideas.
it was a rhetorical question.
the answer is they're fucking traitors.
Shit, somehow I forgot about this one. Unbelievable the shit this man was able to get away with.
Russian asset
Russian Asshat
Trump is a corrupted politician who serve rich people and corporations interests. They are an asset of the government and of the establishment. USA military spending is about 10 times bigger than russia. USA has hundreds of military facilities in europe and probably thousand around the world. They have the biggest and most advanced army in the world, they have more weapons in space than anyone else, they have the biggest mass surveillance network in the world. They are the country with the biggest corporations in the world and with the biggest leverage on worldwide markets. To think that the former ceo of usa is an asset of the "enemy" to me sounds like a poorly credible scenario and propaganda. Isn't more likely that the red and blue party are playing a good cop bad cop game to cycle in power like they have done for almost a century?
Russia has a world class intelligence service, they've got that one thing going for them.
Trump is absolutely compromised by the Russians and has been for decades.
So does USA and it's ten time as big as russia.
It isn't an American plant getting elected in Russia, but the other way around, isn't it?
Nah, it's a lot more likely that Russia's got trump by the balls. It's about a billion times more likely than your illuminati conspiracy.
Do you also believe the earth is flat? It's about the same odds I think, altho I'm no mathematician;
Do you know that during the cold war USA supported masonic lodges (aka the illuminati) around the world as part of their stay behind operations?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli#Alleged_involvement_in_CIA_activities_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Fontana_bombing#Political_theories_of_responsibility_for_the_bombing
Again USA spend way more billions than russia in warfare. I encourage you to research about USA military capabilities and their current deployment of forces around the globe.
None of that has anything to do with the Dems and GOP being in cahoots to control the country.
Also, the illuminati and freemasons are two different societies, get your conspiracies straight, please.
USA military complex doesn't change when red or blue are in power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_installations_in_Italy
https://saganic.blogspot.com/2007/06/us-military-bases-in-italy-there-are.html
So?
-- Donald Trump, July 27, 2016
Ooh, look! The FSB is on Lemmy.
You're so bad at this.
Note to index's handler: do better.
Trump doesn't know the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia.
Because that's what Putin wants his minions to believe.
Ukraine were largely the force that defeated the Nazis on the east front in WWII - not Russia. Both were however part of the Soviet Union at the time.
Ethnic Russians were the largest proportion of the killed in action by quite a margin, let's not pretend that they weren't doing their part. Ukraine was too, of course - the people that pretend Ukraine just jumped ship and shacked up with the Nazis at the first opportunity are doing an unbelievable disservice to the millions of Ukrainians that died fighting the Nazis - but the huge population disparity between Russia and every other Soviet republic does show in the data.
Nah, Ukrainians served in disproportionately large numbers considering most of Ukraine was occupied by the Nazis, but ethnic Russians contributed roughly equivalent to their proportion of the Soviet Union.
Fuck this worthless fucking piece of shit.
Apologies ahead of time for the coarse opinion, but this shitbag has no remote concept of the preciousness of any life aside of his own.
Putin should clean his fat suit more often.
At least chip off the ketchup wads every full moon
Traitor
This should make the tankies happy right? No more funding warfare.
It could not be clearer. Nine years ago I felt like Cassandra, now I just feel like Ren Hoek.
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Ukraine can't win without Western troops.
It's that simple.
Meh, doubt that. Russian incompetence has lead to far inferior efficiency of troops and tools of war. Any advantage they once held is gone.
Quantity is a quality of its own. I’d say Ukraine is hanging on with advanced weaponry. It needs the mass to push Russian troop advances and repel their forces out of their country.
Anything else is keeping the status quo of roughly even wins and losses, which will never lead to victory in the next decade.
I believe that in the entirety of 2023 Russia claimed another 518 km despite heavy military losses? Yeah, doesn't look good for Russia.
Russia claimed and held territory. Their military leadership doesn’t particularly value human lives in this conflict and hasn’t historically either. I have no doubt that they will continue the course suffering heavy human losses and eventually find some form of victory.
Ukraine needs more people if they want any hope of staving that eventuality off. The Russians have very different ideas of fighting a war of attrition.
Ukraine needs ammo, not troops.
Human wave attacks (favoured by the Russians) are effective against opponents who have to ration their ammo, like arty rounds, due to scarcity.
If the defender has sufficient anno reserves, human wave attacks become very, very ineffective.