Boebert Spent Campaign Cash at Bar That Hosts Drag Shows

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Boebert Spent Campaign Cash at Bar That Hosts Drag Shows
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The GOP congresswoman has accused trans people and drag queens of "grooming" and "sexualiz[ing]" children

Rep. Lauren Boebert has been outspoken about her disapproval of drag queens, but that didn’t stop the Colorado congresswoman from spending hundreds of campaign dollars at a bar that hosts drag shows.

According to Politico, which cited her latest Federal Election Commission filings, Boebert’s campaign spent $317.48 in July for “event catering” at Hooch Craft Cocktail Bar in Aspen, Co., which is owned by Boebert’s former boyfriend, Quinn Gallagher. Boebert and Gallagher were booted from a performance of Beetlejuice last month for disruptive conduct, including vaping, loud singing and fondling each other at the family-friendly production. Boebert later said she and Gallagher, a Democrat, had broken up. “All future date nights have been canceled. I learned to check party affiliations before you go on a date,” Boebert told TMZ.

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I learned to check party affiliations before going on a date

Yeah, that was definitely the Problem. Not the vaping, fondling, obnoxious behavior… Sure.

Don’t forget the tits out for Harambe too. She exposed herself in the presence of children—a tried and true Republican tradition at this point.

When did this happen?

The most I've heard is that her husband whipped it out in front of her and her friends, she fondled her new play-toy at a Beetlejuice musical, and apparently is OK with public lewdness so long as it's not with a Democrat. Not sure where this came from.

It happened. Her boyfriend was playing with her boobs, and she was giving him an over the pants rub in the theater. There are night vision shots of it that were published at the time. I'm not googling it for you, but try "Boebert Beetlejuice fondling" and that should find it.

Please point out where she whipped out her boobs.

Yes, we all know the incident happened. We don't need to make it any worse than it really is by claiming they did things they never actually did. They groped each other, yes, but at no point did she "whip them out" or actually expose herself or her date.

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He wasn't her husband when he sexually exposed himself to minors in a bowling alley. The fact he ended up marrying one of them doesn't make him any less a paedophile.

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I’m reading this book called Conservatize Me by an NPR/McSweeny writer from back in 2006. Ignore the title, remember everybody was doing that kind of stuff after Super Size Me.

Anyway, for a month he had to stick to only “conservative culture.” He could only watch conservative news shows, listen to AM radio, etc. He met with folks at New Republic and the first thing guy said to him was “you have to ignore hypocrisy, liberals care about that. It’s just a distraction.”

Almost 20 years ago, and here is this dude just openly saying what we all kind of know. Not that liberals are somehow better and always consistent. But we really do obsess over it, and this guy is sitting here telling him “it is a waste of time to play that game, and conservatives are almost fueled by it.”

I agree that Boebert is a hypocrite. But they don’t care. This stuff just reads as “slander by the media” to them. No one had their mind changed about Boebert. We have to focus on their bad policies and leadership or their voters aren’t going to be swayed.

The reason they like to point out the “hypocrisy of the left” so much is because it makes them feel like they have the moral highground, and because they know the left cares about it. It’s a cudgel, it’s a tool. It’s not a shared value. Google “learjet liberal” and take a look at the results from the 2000’s/2010’s. It’s the same nonsense today.

My interpretation is that they don't see it as hypocrisy. They don't judge actions, they judge people, so the same actions they would condemn others for when done by the "right" people are fine. It's almost a tautology; good people do good things, because if they weren't good people then those things would be bad.

Add in a heap of "good people are people that do things like me" and you have the whole conservative hierarchy in a nutshell.

They don't care about internal consistency. Or truth. They care about effect.

Sartre had a quote about this

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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Because they know very well that their only actual political stance is to get all the power by any means necessary.

I think it’s very easy to boil these things down into very simplistic world views like this, but there actually is more to it. In the book, a lot of them go “I am a conservative, I do not like what the Republican Party is doing.“ this allows them to mentally insulate themselves from some of the more detestable or harder to defend decisions the party makes. Is it just an excuse? Sure. If you vote for that party, you’re responsible for all of their actions. You need to be able to critique them or they won’t stop. But the mentality isn’t simply “I want power.” I’m sure plenty of politicians in their seats, think roughly along those lines, but not the average voter.

And honestly, this makes sense! I am passionate about how we treat people trying to enter the country. Obama and Biden have not done a great job of it, but what am I going to do? Vote Republican? The group that calls them invaders and wants to put up a massive wall? Of course not! So I critique the way they are handling the border and I still vote Democrat. But I’m still culpable for the actions of the Democrats because I pulled that lever when I voted. I don’t try to logic my way around it or separate my voting for them from policy.

Have you ever talked to many conservatives? Because I have the misfortune of having many in my family. There's nuanced "I don't agree with everything this one party does" and then there's "it doesn't matter what this party does, I'll never vote for anyone else"

That latter line of thinking is 100% just "I want my team to win at any cost no matter what they're actually doing" and it's very common amongst conservatives.

I think transphobia will have an effect here. It's one thing to be a hypocrite, it's another to support a queer bar and date someone who owns a queer bar.

It's not going to cause the GOP to name and shame her, but it will reduce campaign donations as well as voter turnout.

IMHO anyway.

Sadly, I think this will affect her more than the groping and vaping in front of children. In the minds of the GOP that's the lesser of the two evils. Supporting transpeople on the other hand, goes against their whole fascist/hate fueled agenda, and I think it will show come election season.

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Oh. Is it time for that Sartre quote again?

“Never believe that [they] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. [They] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

I know it's not hugely relevant to this particular case, but I do think the original context of the quote should be included here, just for completeness if nothing else.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.

While he's discussing anti-semitism, bigots of all kinds use very similar rhetorical strategies. A lot of this stuff did originate with anti-semitism though, and I feel that shouldn't be forgotten.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

You can take the girl out of the trailer park...

And she takes her boebs out at a musical in front of children.

Huh?

That's the "fondling each other" part that got them booted from said musical

No, they got booted because she refused to stop vaping even though vaping isn't allowed, mouthed off to a pregnant lady, was generally being obnoxious, and played the "do you know who I am?" card when asked to tone it down. A review of the security footage later showed that she was also fondling him during the performance, but there's no reports that she exposed herself, outside of the dress itself she was wearing accentuating her cleavage.

Given her attractiveness, if she whipped her boobs out during that incident, the footage would have made its way to every site from Reddit to Pornhub in record time.

EDIT: Everybody is linking to the original footage and while yes, they were groping each other. However, at no point did she "whip out her boebs".

She took her boebs out in front of kids, dude. How much clearer does it need to get?

When? I've never heard of this happening. I heard about her husband whipping it out, but not her.

Among other misbehavior at a performance of Beetlejuice the musical, she and her date groped each other within site of children at the show. He fondled her breasts (some say that they appear to be out on the video but I can't tell) while she gives him a handy through his pants. The video is at the link above.

Among other misbehavior at a performance of Beetlejuice the musical, she and her date groped each other within site of children at the show. He fondled her breasts (some say that they appear to be out on the video but I can’t tell) while she gives him a handy through his pants. The video is at the link above.

At no point did she "whip out her boobs" or anything else. What they did was bad enough, but she did not expose herself or her date. If she had exposed herself, the footage would not be freely shown on TV and would be censored on the internet, along with providing video evidence that would put them both on a sex offender registry.

I said boebs not boobs in the original comment.

Also just put of curiousity do you believe that Congresswoman Lauren Boebert was never prostitute.

That story has been debunked by several sources.

https://krdo.com/news/2022/06/16/a-look-at-the-group-accusing-rep-lauren-boebert-of-working-as-an-escort-and-having-abortions/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/25/politics/fact-check-super-pac-lauren-boebert-escort-abortion-sugar-daddy/index.html

The closest she ever came to that was her failed stint as a model. And even then, the most those pictures show is that she seems to have that "holier than thou cunt" look permanently etched on her face.

From your own source.

That statement is not case-closed evidence that Boebert was never on that site or some other such site. (The representative of the site, which connects “successful” men with “young and aspiring” women, would identify themselves only as “Alice” and would not respond to follow-up questions.) But the super PAC has so far released no evidence to contradict the statement.

So Boebert claimed she never did and the site can't concretely confirm she didn't.

My questions stands, do YOU believe she wasn't a prostitute.

I would suggest re-reading the article instead of taking cherry-picked sentences out of context.

The source of this information has already admitted that his own source made multiple errors, including incorrectly identifying a picture of another woman as being that of Boebert, and that they've "seen" the rest of the evidence but just can't provide it, putting it right in the category of "Really, I have a girlfriend. You just don't know her. She goes to another school. In Canada."

She does not, to my knowledge, have a criminal record with arrests for prostitution. Sources that have come forward with those allegations have been repeatedly debunked, and absolutely nobody has come forward with actual, credible evidence. So, no, I do not believe she was ever a prostitute or actually engaged in the sex work industry, nor is there any evidence to the contrary.

Just because I don't like somebody doesn't mean it's OK to fling false accusations about them. She's been a public figure and a prominent member of the Republican house for over 3 years now. And let's be realistic. Boebert is an incredibly attractive woman with huge boobs. If there were any credible evidence of her working on that site or any other, don't you think someone would have found it by now and spread pictures of her naked everywhere? Don't you think at least one of her customers would have come forward by now to share their story?

I'm not asking you demonstrate or provide evidence one way or the other. I am asking if you believe she was never a prostitute.

I just demonstrated how your source was pretty flawed and exists in that grey area where we can't say for sure she was and need to give her the benefit of the doubt that she claims she wasn't.

Don't worry though, your inability to answer a simple question actually answered it for me.

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We need to stop trying to 'gotcha' the bastards

They will never, ever be ashamed and their supporters and media machine will excuse away or outright ignore any hypocrisy. All we are doing is tiring ourselves out.

presses start button on woodchipper

I think it's sad the message this sends. Specifically that people of opposite political parties can't even jerk each other off in public anymore.

To paraphrase Pazuzu:

Your grandma sucks cocks in a Democrat bar!

The embodiment of stupidity. She finds new and novel ways to fuck up.

If Boebert wanted to just come clean, say that she's a democrat, and start doing like actual pino, she would be so damn successful.

Yeah, that was probably at her ex-boyfriends restaurant (the one who was grabbing her tits while she was giving him a handy in a Bettlejuice play)

I would rather such establishments get her money than the alternative. Good.

I hate this bitch ad much as the next guy but come on.

Ridicule her for her stupid tweets and dumb policies, just ignore what she does in her free time.

If she was spending campaign money, it wasn’t her free time. If it was, that’s misuse of campaign funds.

Ridicule her for her stupid tweets and dumb policies, just ignore what she does in her free time.

She's not being ridiculed for what she does in her free time. She's being ridiculed because she engages in the exact type of behavior that she constantly preaches against. Her hypocricy is what draws the ridicule.

It's the blatant hypocrisy. Nobody cares about the drag club, they care that this person is literally pushing legislation to eliminate people like that from public life.

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