Trump 'does not have the right to say and do exactly what he pleases,' Judge Chutkan says, issuing gag order
A federal judge on Monday issued a gag order on former President Donald Trump, limiting what he can say about special counsel Jack Smith’s federal prosecution into his alleged attempt to subvert in the 2020 presidential election.
The order restricts Trump’s ability to publicly target court personnel, potential witnesses, or the special counsel and his staff. The order did not impose restrictions on disparaging comments about Washington, DC, – where the jury will take place – or certain comments about the Justice Department at large, both of which the government requested.
“This is not about whether I like the language Mr. Trump uses,” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. “This is about language that presents a danger to the administration of justice.”
“His presidential candidacy does not give him carte blanche to vilify public servants who are simply doing their jobs,” the judge added.
And the consequences when he breaks this order less than 24 hours from now?
Fucking right?! Can we just lock him up just this once? I'm sick of him dominanting the discourse. I just want universal healthcare/ basic income.
You just want things that our current overlords will never give us. Don’t worry, I’m on your side. We’ll get there, eventually.
Vote.
Better happen sooner then later. America is just asking for a John Q moment.
Can you indulge a non American idiot. What's a John q moment. All I'm finding when searching is a denzel Washington movie with the synopsis not giving quite enough context to fit
It's essentially what took place in that movie. Health care wouldn't cover a life saving procedure for Denzel Washington's character's child. So he held up the hospital until his child got care. I honestly forgot how it ended. But if I had to guess he gets shot and his kid gets to live.
Edit:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Q.#:~:text=John%20is%20ultimately%20acquitted%20of,of%20kidnapping%20and%20false%20imprisonment.
I honestly think there's going to be a mass shooting at an insurance or pharmaceutical company. Someone's eventually going to go after a CEO out of spite
They may provide us with tasty cutlets though.
For some reason no media seem to have linked to a copy of the gag order, but prior reporting suggests that the judge's threat if Trump violates the order is to do one thing he really doesn't want the court to do, which is move up the trial date.
Which is a quite reasonable move.
"Dude continues with his threats? Alright, let's get this over with. And add his threats to the pile of evidence."
The theory is hey, if he's going to keep trying to tamper with witnesses and jurors, were going to expedite the trial to minimize his opportunity.
Probably along with fines.
Sneak peak from the future.
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/e2f/46e/ed8919a1efe6587faaa62bc0453f12f81f-wise-politics-mugshot.rvertical.w570.jpg
Peek*
Unless you can show me a stealthy mountain
Gregor Clegane definitely isn't.
Mt Rainier
Stealthiest mountain I ever seen
"oooh are ya gonna see me today? Maybe, maybe not"
Edit: misspelled
Rainier? 😅🤦🏼♂️
The irony is thick in this one.
It is so stealthy, people don't even know the name correctly.
Looking at you, Mr James Bond...
Oops
My family is from Seattle, they would be ashamed
Lets hope for the best. Don't they have these solitary confinement cells that are painted in pink floor to ceiling?
Probably a big fine.
Gosh
I'm going to go with a double-serious rebuke.
Supposedly having the trial sooner.
"That were three more violations in yesterdays speech, so we will move the trial back another three weeks. See you in court next Tuesday, Mr. Trump."
They'll issue another gag order...
Same thought here.
This ultimately means nothing if he doesn’t face any consequences for breaking the court order.
It's been widely reported that she will move up the trial date which is the last thing he wants since his strategy is to delay until after the election at which time, if he wins, none of this will matter. The theory is that doing so gives him less time to intimidate witnesses and officers of the courts.
I'm not a lawyer, but that should be felony contempt for violating a direct court order.
I think for people with a reputation for not paying bills, this kind of thing should be held as a deposit.
Just so they can't delay paying it for years.
It's just gone the moment the judge decides it, and he has to appeal it back
I mean, it's an awful precent for everyone else, but for him and Rudy and Alex Jones there's really no other way to get the cash out of them.
God it feels good to have somebody in authority say that.
The little brat needs to be told.
It would feel much better if any of them had the balls to actually enforce these orders.
Time will tell - this judge doesn't seem to lack the guts to do so if necessary. But my understanding is that jail time is a 'last resort' after fines and other punishments. I'm under no delusion that Trump will be thrown in Jail in the near future.
She's threatened to move up the trial date if he violates the order as a way of limiting the effect his words can have on court officers and potential witnesses. This would be terrible for him since his whole strategy is to delay until after the election when he believes he will become president again and can make it all go away.
I really like Judge Chutkan so far.
He is being given a rope, it's his choice whether he hangs himself with it. You can't go straight to throwing him in prison you at least have to demonstrate ill intent.
I wouldn't worry, he will definitely violate these terms, if you gave Donald Trump a button that said do not press under any circumstances, pressing this button will result in the destruction of the universe he'd press it before you could finish reading the sign. The man has no self-control.
I’m counting the hours until this dumbass violates that order.
Hours? Someone's an optimist
Optimist? I'd say pessimist.
An optimist hopes for seconds.
2 gag orders in 2 seperate cases. He really should shut the fuck up for once
hold on a bit. I kind of want to watch him make things worse for him.
Lol don't worry
That is downright un-American!
https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-tyqcJoNjNv0Fq
He should, but my guess is that he's not gonna.
Has the right to remain silent, but lacks the ability.
oooooooo someone is getting yelled at today
This should have been from day 1.
Until someone actually does something about it, he absolutely does.
That hurts. That would be sentences with words of four and five syllables! He will fail to pronounce them, or his followers won't understand them. Win-Win.
I wonder what pictures his "speech writers" will draw on his cue cards for a sentence like that ;-)
Trump will soon be telling his cult that the judge said "‘my prosecution is politically motivated".
I doubt Trump will be able to resist attacking Jack Smith, but I'm 100% certain he's going to violate the rule against targeting "potential witnesses." That's a very, very long list of people who are targeted regularly.
My bet is that he'll screw up on Pence. It's a narrow target at Pence and it's functionally the only thing he can call him out on.
Other than Pence would lose a personality contest to Stephen Harper.
I've grown slime molds with more personality than Mike Pence.
hello, I'm not a native english speaker and I know two distinct meaning of the word "gag" and neither of them make sense in this context. so what does "gag order" mean?
I'm guessing the 2 uses you already know are 'joke' and 'to retch/nearly vomit'?
Another meaning of 'gag' is to physically tie something around their mouth to stop them from speaking (like in films when people get material or tape in their mouths to muffle their cries for help in a kidnap scene? That material would be the 'gag')
Obviously in this instance it's not a literal gag, although I'm sure there's plenty of people who wish it could be. A 'gagging order' is a metaphor for not being able to speak about things
Gag orders can forbid people from publicly discussing a case or aspects of it.
ahh okay, thank you!
Does it include BDSM related meanings?
History has proven that he does. Gag orders don’t do shit to him.
It all depends what the judge is willing to do about violations. If they really threaten the administration of justice, fines are probably the first step, but imprisonment is on the table though it seems unlikely to go that far. A new judge may treat these differently, or take previous gag order violations into account.
Hasn’t he violated every gag order put on him so far?
When is the lat time Trump got a gag order in a criminal trial?
Are you joking? He seemingly getting a gag order once a week for the past two or three months!
For a voter base that believes the other side is using all means including DOJ to get put down their candidate. it is going to energize even those who are on the fence to jump to the republican side