My "Liked Music" playlist has 630 songs.
Cool, but can we talk about how YouTube Music only shuffles the first twenty or so? I desperately need a way to export my playlist so I can pirate the music and properly shuffle it on an open source mp3 player.
"Piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue." -- Gabe Newell
yt-dlp can download yt music playlists afaik
Yesss inject that 128kB into my veins.
Compression is cringe af tbh
i use a website that shuffles the playlist for me all at once, so i just go in the random shuffle order it gave me instead of using the actual shuffle button. it ensures every song get played at least once
Could you share the site information?
stevenaleong.com
Thank you for the share. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a YouTube Music randomizer. Everything I find randomizes YouTube for browser viewing.
damn thats a shame. i looked it up in curiosity and one suggestion was to switch to apple music until google fixes that feature 🤣
"Oh, just aim at your other foot!"
Lidarr might have that option, it has it for Spotify at least, or just export it using the tool the other poster mentioned then use lidarr to find better quality versions
I have this problem when I shuffle my liked songs on Spotify. Someone suggested clearing the cache which has improved it slightly.
Used 'seal' and 'retro music' apps from f-droid, cool stuff
One playlist, "Liked Songs" gang supremacy.
i like to make sequels every year or so. i’m currently on “liked songs 4”. it gives me the chaos of a liked songs playlist, but with the comfort that only recently liked songs will play. (i will never unlike a song)
This is my strategy too, except I make new playlists every January and seperate the songs by year. So I have 2017, 2018, 2019, etc playlists of songs that came out that year. Then I go through the songs from that year and add the absolute bangers to an ultimate playlist. I also never unlike a song.
When I was first developing my music taste I did this too. I had "songs I like 2018 edition", "songs I like 2019 edition" then discovered Spotify and everything morphed into a singular "liked songs" playlist :D
If there's one thing I'd want AI to do is to organize my music library :)
Although I don't unerstand why can't Spotify just give me list of artists/genres/etc. that I listen to and allow me to play only specific ones. I could even do that on my freakin old iPod Nano and it's year 2024 for god sake! But from what I see Spotify programmers are more busy with removing features than adding anything useful nowadays. I am also still mad that they have removed radio feature and they didn't provide an alternative.
And while they're at it, can it sort out the pics on my phone into "pics of dog" and "pics I took to show a client what the problem was then forgot to delete and now take up two thirds of my storage"?
Google photos is pretty good for searching photos like this, I don't know about organizing
It’s incredible, though Apple is catching up.
Google Photos, perfect until they report you to the cops & close your account for photos you took of your son for your doctor. (NYT / Slashdot summary)
I've wondered about that possibility. Personally, I wouldn't want sensitive photos to touch the internet PERIOD, even if I'm the one hosting. Incognito camera mode would be a cool feature. Hit a toggle, then all photos and videos are saved to a separate, secured directory not synced to any cloud service. Maybe things in there get deleted after 30 days
Sounds a little like Signal’s note to self!
Woah I already had signal for work and I didn't even know that was a thing
Hey hun, check this out...
Let me just get past these 32 pictures of the same door because my client is an idiot
Why should Spotify waste time on your pet feature request when they have dozens of working features still to be ruined.
Spotify should support tags. It would be so easy to have one giga playlist and just tag the songs accordingly to Genre, moods, memories, etc.
They recently did an update on mobile which basically treats playlists as tags, in that you press the + button and you can easily add and remove songs from multiple playlists with a single click. I'm probably not describing it that well, but it's one of the best features they've added in years!
If they notice a reduction in subscribers theyll implement this.
I actually thought of developing an alternative frontend just for this one feature because the Spotify offline mode / listening to playlists / library music is just… bad, but I'm terrible at frontend and don't have the time :/
they have something similar if you search "mix" you'll find a bunch of genre and themed playlists with songs you already have liked and some new ones
I don't make new playlists to split by genre, I do it so the shuffle will actually fucking work. I don't know what dogshit algorithms Youtube/Spotify employ, but for any playlist over 100 songs the "shuffler" will typically just go through the same ~20 songs and expect you to not notice. I just want a different order!
Anyway now I have like 40 playlists with 20 songs each.
Apparently back in the covered wagon days when shuffle features were truly random, the listener would occasionally be burdened by hearing two songs by the same artist in a row. Literally no one complained about this, so of course upper management decided that this must be "fixed" immediately, so that's what led to shuffle features becoming noticeably worse than when they were simply random, which is all anyone ever wanted them to be.
Actually, and I don't mean to be that guy, but people did complain about it.
True random means that you could end up with songs by the same artist being played four or five times in a row, which makes people think it's not random at all. Humans are really bad at understanding randomness, so a little help to make it feel more random improves satisfaction.
But at this point, it's gone too far and I'm almost certain that shuffling involves always playing the most popular songs by an artist first, then random covers and remixes, then the back-catalog of works.
On a side note, I wish I could exclude remixes and covers when shuffling through an artist's stuff.
All I want is shuffle not to repeat until I've heard (or skipped) every song.
I mean really what they should do is provide some degree of control over the shuffle parameters... But hey ho, back to listen to whatever Spotify thinks is my favourite song.
Humans are really bad at understanding randomness
Not all of us. I can't imagine not understanding that if something's random, there's a possibility that something like playing the same artist five times in a row might happen. It's cute when that happens, it's a thing that should be possible and one of the things that was so much fun about shuffle.
I don't want to be that guy either, but do you have a source showing that people really did complain about this? I've heard it said so many times that they did, but I don't believe it. I think it's just an excuse for big corporations like Spotify and Apple to manipulate algorithms to deliberately promote certain artists. I don't believe it was ever well intentioned, and I resent that there's no feature for people who want "shuffle" to work like it should work -- in a completely random fashion. Or at least give us the option. The fact that there's not even a randomization option at all should make clear that this was not development that was done in good faith or for the benefit of the listener. They actually removed a feature in order to promote their corporate crap.
It's so obvious that Spotify is promoting certain artists. As soon as I launch the app, it's always the same shit on the front page. At this point, I could pretty well predict what major-label crap is in all those "recommended" playlists they create for me. It's so bad. Honestly, if it weren't so damn inconvenient to do so, I'd just rip songs from the CDs I buy from independent labels and put them on my phone. I'm pretty sure there are some apps that have a genuinely random shuffle. Just got to find one.
Spotify themselves got that feedback that their truly random shuffle didn't feel random, so they changed it to an algorithm. And this is from 2014 when they made the switch, so they were only just diving into algorithmic promotion.
I don't disagree that Spotify now promotes certain artists and has really messed with their shuffle algorithms, but they left the true random behind because people complained about it.
Go to settings, disable "automix". That should help.
Any fix on the Youtube side of things without clearing watch history?
everything in liked songs
Skips until something good plays
I mean the liked songs list let's you separate by genre. When it knows what genre it is, and no Spotify, the Damned are not a pop group.
Wait what it lets you separate it by Genre? Need to check how to do that when I get back home
I can do on my list of liked songs and pick "punk rock" at the top and it'll only show me the punk songs in my list
Where exactly? I don't see this feature anywhere being even mentioned.
I just pick one of the genre tabs at the top and it'll only show me the songs on my list that are that genre.
I don't see any tabs both on my mobile device and desktop and I have similar amount of songs as you. Could this functionality be only limited to English language? I have my apps in Russian and Polish respectively.
1M songs is absurd. How many does Spotify even have?
About 70-80 mln
Yeah thats unfeasible as fuck, that would be listening to and liking over 800 songs a day for 10 years
Liking an album adds all the songs on the album to Liked Songs. Its annoying as fuck
for me it doesnt add any song to liked songs, just the album to liked albums. maybe its a desktop thing because on mobile i have to hit the 3 dots then hit the add all songs to playlist button
Used to like all songs if download an album. If unliked one song, undownloaded entire album.
Or you just like a bunch of huge playlists and it adds them all to the liked songs lol
I haven’t been using social media for 10+ years besides some on/off shitposting on hacker news. I’d love to find something for music management that’s not sucky and uber corpo like Spotify. I use Bandcamp for buying from niche artists and sound cloud for finding new labels, but sound cloud is too Spotifyish now. Deezer used to be nice before they started region restrictions.
I'm currently using Qobuz. The interface is a bit clunky and the catalog is smaller, but there are no podcasts, audiobooks, or social features.
My favorite ever streaming service was Mog. It was bought by Beats and ruined.
For those in the US that can't use Quobuz (like myself), Tidal has social features, but you can turn them off.
I moved to Tidal from YT Music because of its awful bloat and love it. It's simple and I've not found it to be lacking in anything. Some listings may be wrong sometimes, but they're super responsive to feedback for fixing it.
I tried Tidal for a while back when they only had the high-fi tier. It was nice but not worth the $20 a month IMO. It looks like they have cheaper tiers now.
Another plus is both services sound much better than Spotify.
Oh, I had literally checked it 3 weeks ago and it wasn't. Cool!
I just have one giant playlist with all the music I like
I do as well. Unfortunately my taste is all over the place. If I play my liked songs on shuffle I get Country, Techno, Chanson, Drum and Bass, Metal, Tekkno, Pop, Hardbass, Grime, Breakcore, Hip-hop and then a four hour DJ set.
Aka the way it should be
Fuckin THANK YOU!
i went from marty robbins to dillinger escape plan once. boy did that shock my system
Perfect, if your playlist doesn't give you severe whiplash every few minutes you're not doing it right.
Yeah, if I'm not in the mood I just skip until I find a song that hits. I'm way too lazy to make playlists
Finally, someone who gets me! I'm the exact same way.
All of my playlists are the ghostbusters theme song
favourite, like, and those that need a specific mood but slap when it comes around
Assuming an average of 4 minutes per song, that is 7 years and 8 months of music. I wonder how much time the ads would add?
The best way to use spotify is to block the ads
You can do that? I don't use Spotify so I didn't know.
It's not even on shuffle, either, so he's just listening straight through.
It's a journey through time, when you do it that way.
Yes I do! I have a house classics, progressive classics, progressive house(of the past year), uplifting trance, trance and so on. But my liked songs has a bit of everything and many other things.
ps: I need a trance classics list.
I'm looking at all my playlists and I'm starting to think I've watched High Fidelity too many times.
i feel attacked whenever I look at my daylist on spotify
When was this implemented? I feel like this new to Spotify now
until a few years ago the limit was 10k
I understand the joke, I think. But what do the devil and Jesus have to do with it? If either one of them is evil it's what Jesus is saying, so that can't be it. What am I missing here?
It's just a common shitpost format out there that's playing off of those unironic religious posts that you might see on FB or something. I see good/bad get flipped back and forth as part of the joke.
My "Liked Music" playlist has 630 songs.
Cool, but can we talk about how YouTube Music only shuffles the first twenty or so? I desperately need a way to export my playlist so I can pirate the music and properly shuffle it on an open source mp3 player.
"Piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue." -- Gabe Newell
yt-dlp can download yt music playlists afaik
Yesss inject that 128kB into my veins.
Compression is cringe af tbh
i use a website that shuffles the playlist for me all at once, so i just go in the random shuffle order it gave me instead of using the actual shuffle button. it ensures every song get played at least once
Could you share the site information?
stevenaleong.com
Thank you for the share. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a YouTube Music randomizer. Everything I find randomizes YouTube for browser viewing.
damn thats a shame. i looked it up in curiosity and one suggestion was to switch to apple music until google fixes that feature 🤣
"Oh, just aim at your other foot!"
Lidarr might have that option, it has it for Spotify at least, or just export it using the tool the other poster mentioned then use lidarr to find better quality versions
I have this problem when I shuffle my liked songs on Spotify. Someone suggested clearing the cache which has improved it slightly.
Used 'seal' and 'retro music' apps from f-droid, cool stuff
One playlist, "Liked Songs" gang supremacy.
i like to make sequels every year or so. i’m currently on “liked songs 4”. it gives me the chaos of a liked songs playlist, but with the comfort that only recently liked songs will play. (i will never unlike a song)
This is my strategy too, except I make new playlists every January and seperate the songs by year. So I have 2017, 2018, 2019, etc playlists of songs that came out that year. Then I go through the songs from that year and add the absolute bangers to an ultimate playlist. I also never unlike a song.
When I was first developing my music taste I did this too. I had "songs I like 2018 edition", "songs I like 2019 edition" then discovered Spotify and everything morphed into a singular "liked songs" playlist :D
If there's one thing I'd want AI to do is to organize my music library :)
Although I don't unerstand why can't Spotify just give me list of artists/genres/etc. that I listen to and allow me to play only specific ones. I could even do that on my freakin old iPod Nano and it's year 2024 for god sake! But from what I see Spotify programmers are more busy with removing features than adding anything useful nowadays. I am also still mad that they have removed radio feature and they didn't provide an alternative.
And while they're at it, can it sort out the pics on my phone into "pics of dog" and "pics I took to show a client what the problem was then forgot to delete and now take up two thirds of my storage"?
Google photos is pretty good for searching photos like this, I don't know about organizing
It’s incredible, though Apple is catching up.
Google Photos, perfect until they report you to the cops & close your account for photos you took of your son for your doctor. (NYT / Slashdot summary)
I've wondered about that possibility. Personally, I wouldn't want sensitive photos to touch the internet PERIOD, even if I'm the one hosting. Incognito camera mode would be a cool feature. Hit a toggle, then all photos and videos are saved to a separate, secured directory not synced to any cloud service. Maybe things in there get deleted after 30 days
Sounds a little like Signal’s note to self!
Woah I already had signal for work and I didn't even know that was a thing
Hey hun, check this out... Let me just get past these 32 pictures of the same door because my client is an idiot
Why should Spotify waste time on your pet feature request when they have dozens of working features still to be ruined.
Spotify should support tags. It would be so easy to have one giga playlist and just tag the songs accordingly to Genre, moods, memories, etc.
They recently did an update on mobile which basically treats playlists as tags, in that you press the + button and you can easily add and remove songs from multiple playlists with a single click. I'm probably not describing it that well, but it's one of the best features they've added in years!
If they notice a reduction in subscribers theyll implement this.
I actually thought of developing an alternative frontend just for this one feature because the Spotify offline mode / listening to playlists / library music is just… bad, but I'm terrible at frontend and don't have the time :/
they have something similar if you search "mix" you'll find a bunch of genre and themed playlists with songs you already have liked and some new ones
I don't make new playlists to split by genre, I do it so the shuffle will actually fucking work. I don't know what dogshit algorithms Youtube/Spotify employ, but for any playlist over 100 songs the "shuffler" will typically just go through the same ~20 songs and expect you to not notice. I just want a different order!
Anyway now I have like 40 playlists with 20 songs each.
Apparently back in the covered wagon days when shuffle features were truly random, the listener would occasionally be burdened by hearing two songs by the same artist in a row. Literally no one complained about this, so of course upper management decided that this must be "fixed" immediately, so that's what led to shuffle features becoming noticeably worse than when they were simply random, which is all anyone ever wanted them to be.
Actually, and I don't mean to be that guy, but people did complain about it.
True random means that you could end up with songs by the same artist being played four or five times in a row, which makes people think it's not random at all. Humans are really bad at understanding randomness, so a little help to make it feel more random improves satisfaction.
But at this point, it's gone too far and I'm almost certain that shuffling involves always playing the most popular songs by an artist first, then random covers and remixes, then the back-catalog of works.
On a side note, I wish I could exclude remixes and covers when shuffling through an artist's stuff.
All I want is shuffle not to repeat until I've heard (or skipped) every song.
I mean really what they should do is provide some degree of control over the shuffle parameters... But hey ho, back to listen to whatever Spotify thinks is my favourite song.
Not all of us. I can't imagine not understanding that if something's random, there's a possibility that something like playing the same artist five times in a row might happen. It's cute when that happens, it's a thing that should be possible and one of the things that was so much fun about shuffle.
I don't want to be that guy either, but do you have a source showing that people really did complain about this? I've heard it said so many times that they did, but I don't believe it. I think it's just an excuse for big corporations like Spotify and Apple to manipulate algorithms to deliberately promote certain artists. I don't believe it was ever well intentioned, and I resent that there's no feature for people who want "shuffle" to work like it should work -- in a completely random fashion. Or at least give us the option. The fact that there's not even a randomization option at all should make clear that this was not development that was done in good faith or for the benefit of the listener. They actually removed a feature in order to promote their corporate crap.
It's so obvious that Spotify is promoting certain artists. As soon as I launch the app, it's always the same shit on the front page. At this point, I could pretty well predict what major-label crap is in all those "recommended" playlists they create for me. It's so bad. Honestly, if it weren't so damn inconvenient to do so, I'd just rip songs from the CDs I buy from independent labels and put them on my phone. I'm pretty sure there are some apps that have a genuinely random shuffle. Just got to find one.
https://engineering.atspotify.com/2014/02/how-to-shuffle-songs/
Spotify themselves got that feedback that their truly random shuffle didn't feel random, so they changed it to an algorithm. And this is from 2014 when they made the switch, so they were only just diving into algorithmic promotion.
I don't disagree that Spotify now promotes certain artists and has really messed with their shuffle algorithms, but they left the true random behind because people complained about it.
Go to settings, disable "automix". That should help.
Any fix on the Youtube side of things without clearing watch history?
everything in liked songs
Skips until something good plays
I mean the liked songs list let's you separate by genre. When it knows what genre it is, and no Spotify, the Damned are not a pop group.
Wait what it lets you separate it by Genre? Need to check how to do that when I get back home
I can do on my list of liked songs and pick "punk rock" at the top and it'll only show me the punk songs in my list
This one is.
Where exactly? I don't see this feature anywhere being even mentioned.
I just pick one of the genre tabs at the top and it'll only show me the songs on my list that are that genre.
I don't see any tabs both on my mobile device and desktop and I have similar amount of songs as you. Could this functionality be only limited to English language? I have my apps in Russian and Polish respectively.
1M songs is absurd. How many does Spotify even have?
About 70-80 mln
Yeah thats unfeasible as fuck, that would be listening to and liking over 800 songs a day for 10 years
Liking an album adds all the songs on the album to Liked Songs. Its annoying as fuck
for me it doesnt add any song to liked songs, just the album to liked albums. maybe its a desktop thing because on mobile i have to hit the 3 dots then hit the add all songs to playlist button
Used to like all songs if download an album. If unliked one song, undownloaded entire album.
Or you just like a bunch of huge playlists and it adds them all to the liked songs lol
I haven’t been using social media for 10+ years besides some on/off shitposting on hacker news. I’d love to find something for music management that’s not sucky and uber corpo like Spotify. I use Bandcamp for buying from niche artists and sound cloud for finding new labels, but sound cloud is too Spotifyish now. Deezer used to be nice before they started region restrictions.
I'm currently using Qobuz. The interface is a bit clunky and the catalog is smaller, but there are no podcasts, audiobooks, or social features.
My favorite ever streaming service was Mog. It was bought by Beats and ruined.
For those in the US that can't use Quobuz (like myself), Tidal has social features, but you can turn them off.
I moved to Tidal from YT Music because of its awful bloat and love it. It's simple and I've not found it to be lacking in anything. Some listings may be wrong sometimes, but they're super responsive to feedback for fixing it.
Qobuz is available in the US (Qobuz Availability).
I tried Tidal for a while back when they only had the high-fi tier. It was nice but not worth the $20 a month IMO. It looks like they have cheaper tiers now.
Another plus is both services sound much better than Spotify.
Oh, I had literally checked it 3 weeks ago and it wasn't. Cool!
I just have one giant playlist with all the music I like
I do as well. Unfortunately my taste is all over the place. If I play my liked songs on shuffle I get Country, Techno, Chanson, Drum and Bass, Metal, Tekkno, Pop, Hardbass, Grime, Breakcore, Hip-hop and then a four hour DJ set.
Aka the way it should be
Fuckin THANK YOU!
i went from marty robbins to dillinger escape plan once. boy did that shock my system
Perfect, if your playlist doesn't give you severe whiplash every few minutes you're not doing it right.
Yeah, if I'm not in the mood I just skip until I find a song that hits. I'm way too lazy to make playlists
Finally, someone who gets me! I'm the exact same way.
All of my playlists are the ghostbusters theme song
16k liked songs and counting
🫡
Playlist for moods/scene
Bedtime, Party Songs, Fuck Jams etc.
Fuck Jams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAwyWkksXuo
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=KAwyWkksXuo
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
The real fuck jams are actual sex-themed albums.
for me it's just a rating system
favourite, like, and those that need a specific mood but slap when it comes around
Assuming an average of 4 minutes per song, that is 7 years and 8 months of music. I wonder how much time the ads would add?
The best way to use spotify is to block the ads
You can do that? I don't use Spotify so I didn't know.
It's not even on shuffle, either, so he's just listening straight through.
It's a journey through time, when you do it that way.
Yes I do! I have a house classics, progressive classics, progressive house(of the past year), uplifting trance, trance and so on. But my liked songs has a bit of everything and many other things. ps: I need a trance classics list.
I'm looking at all my playlists and I'm starting to think I've watched High Fidelity too many times.
i feel attacked whenever I look at my daylist on spotify
When was this implemented? I feel like this new to Spotify now
until a few years ago the limit was 10k
I understand the joke, I think. But what do the devil and Jesus have to do with it? If either one of them is evil it's what Jesus is saying, so that can't be it. What am I missing here?
It's just a common shitpost format out there that's playing off of those unironic religious posts that you might see on FB or something. I see good/bad get flipped back and forth as part of the joke.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-child-will-x