I would love to see it, but I'm mostly just gobsmacked by how much balls-out plutocratic fuckery we're already accepting. Corporations snatching up all the houses, grocery stores jacking up prices with abandon, our sick joke of a medical system pricing us out of being alive, insurance companies charging more and covering nothing. People seem more upset about streaming services raising prices and shovelling ads into everything, but they're still fucking paying for them. It's insane the abuse that the public is willing to accept, provided that there's someone worse off who we can look down on.
Look all I’m saying is, when shit like this happened to medieval Chinese peasants, millions of landholders died and they still had more free time than us
(Before a liberal points out the obvious, I am aware technology has advanced since the Qing dynasty)
I think the biggest issue is that we don't know what to do when we're mad anymore. People think that being mad is all you need - that if you say you're mad, things will change. I often see people get pissed about something, then calm down and move on, as if they somehow achieved something with their anger alone.
I'm hoping that there's some pressure going on under the surface, and people will eventually reach a point where enough anger has built up that they can't take it anymore and they really take action, but from what I've seen, people are so against the concept of acting upon angry feelings that I worry they'll just hold it in until they die.
Action needs to be organized and have a clear purpose. Disorganized, unfocused action is easily overcome by the powerful. After decades of a very deliberate culture of individualism, we have a psychological mountain to climb in finding our way back to focused collective action. Not to mention that the mechanisms of such action (such as labor unions) have been gradually dismantled for half a century or more.
We had unfocused action in the 2020 protests and it was laughably ineffective because of it.
The culture of individualism will be extremely hard to move past at this point. Also, the wealthy won't let it happen. If you think the police are only there to protect the wealthy's investments, just wait till we actually get some traction on any sort of labor movement.
There needs to be mass protests, but be sure to obtain the proper permits, avoid infringing on private property, coordinate with your local authorities on proper times and acceptable public places that won't interfere with commerce, avoid any sort of vandalism or violence because the message will be lost, and make sure not to alienate those who help your friends and neighbors to make a living.
Organize protests, but only within the boundaries that would render them useless.
Look at other countries, plenty of places where angry people are doing something about it...
Oh they know how mad you are. They just don't care. What the fuck you gonna do about it, pleb?
They do be looking pretty tasty right about now.
And I happen to have tons of barbeque sauce left over
Can we just flash mob this thing? I'll bring the grill
Which rich ass do you habe in mind? (I personally live in Germany, but if I can order takeout, that'd be great)
So many are living in total wilful ignorance of politics that I don't think anything is going to happen, most people barely even look at the news and if they did they wouldn't understand most of it, nevermind the subtleties and nuance of identifying bias and dogwhistles etc., they just check twitter feeds for their product fandoms so they know when to consume product and when to get excited for the next product.
They are happy being fucked for all their labour value as long as they get that dopamine hit from whatever vapid bullshit is trotted out of some dystopian shithole like SK.
I've decided the best and most feasible thing I can do right now is thoroughly decoupling myself from the corporate consumerism world, I haven't had Netflix (boycotted over Chapelle initially then just stuck with it) in many years now and I just got around to cancelling Prime too, I've deleted all food delivery apps and I pirate all my media and use ublock/sponsor block everywhere, the only thing left to cancel is Spotify, I only ever buy used gadgets like old laptops that'd probably end up in a landfill, some of which I use to host Jellyfin etc.
I am sorry, but what does SK stand for? All I can think of is Slovakia and it is just too funny 🤣
I assume South Korea. Calling it a dystopian shithole seems kinda unfair (especially when the only land border is with an actual dystopian nightmare of a country) but there is valid reason for the criticism. Korea has an incredibly patriarchal society where calling out authority is seen as a big no-no. Working hours are intense. Time after work is frequently spent with your colleagues and boss because of strong social expectations, with it being normal to expect employees to stay out drinking until the boss is ready to go home. Pressure for students at school is so intense the government has had to make efforts to ban the ubiquitous "hagwon" private approval schooling. For many, not achieving a spot at the one specific university is considered failure. The economy is something almost literally out of a dystopia, controlled by a handful of "chaebols", massive family-owned conglomerates like Samsung, Hyundai, LG, and Lotte.
assume South Korea. Calling it a dystopian shithole seems kinda unfair (especially when the only land border is with an actual dystopian nightmare of a country) but there is valid reason for the criticism.
The Korean peninsula can have two dystopian shitholes, as a treat.
Very different kinds of dystopias though. One's basically taken right out of a cyberpunk novel with corporations ruling over an ostensibly-free populous. The other is an extreme authoritarian dictatorship where the government rules with an iron fist.
When you put it like that, it sounds like something out of Metro 2033.
Don't forget semi feudal levels of personal luxuries.
Gonna assume South Korea (angry kpop fan noises) or maybe Saskatchewan.
It's South Korea. Country is 3 corpos in a trenchcoat and the culture is based on merit where merit is how hard you slave for those corpos. Seeing that shit so pushedby the mainstream disgusts me.
I've decided the best and most feasible thing I can do right now is thoroughly decoupling myself from the corporate consumerism world
I honestly think this is a very valid approach. Most people are imagining revolutions and a sudden and violent end to the capitalist class, but I'm more inclined towards the idea where people just change their life habbits so that they don't depend on massive corporations. Step one stop using crap you don't need, step two try to get the things you do need locally. If enough people do this, you might start seeing small communities that take care of a lot of stuff by themselves, and the moment you get a big enough community where at least some can live comfortably with little to no dependency from big corporations, things might change...
I'd like to believe it, but based on recent evidence, the next decade is going to be defined by how incredibly apathetic the general public continues to be about matters that actually affect our lives.
Employees where I work went on strike to accept pretty much the same deal two weeks later...
If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflection of the voice; at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They need only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
You love to see it
But you doubt the proletariat will do anything but kill each other
Maybe direct (organized) action. You know, in Minecraft.
That organized part is the hard part. Everyone is so atomized.
Yeah. Agreed. I even fall into that category sometimes. It's a difficult thing to overcome.
You mean like us all dabbing at the same time in Fortnite?
Sure. Don't play it, but I think you get the point. (I also don't play Minecraft)
I've seen a lot of comments like this for a lot of years...
In the 20th century, the "Roaring Twenties" ended with the great depression.
In the 21st century, we're in the "Screaming Twenties", and I hope it ends with a manic frenzy of plutocrat cannibalism... But I doubt it will have a catchy name or be called "great" by anyone.
Dear god I hope so.
I don't like asparagus
I made you some green beans Amandine and slow roasted cabbage, bon appetit.
If SpaceNoodle doesn’t want it, may I have their portions?
No, my partner loooooves asparagus.
Sure! My roast cabbage is honestly TDF. There is nothing better.
Can I have the Potatoes/Asparagus AND Green Beans/Roasted Cabbage options?
Also, will there be an open bar?
Yes and yes and yes. I have this lovely Fume Blanc I'm pouring.
I don't want it unless the green beans are fresh off the vine.
What kind of plebeian do you take me for? Eat your Got-damned beans.
Suffering winds the spring of reform.
God I hope so
Gosh, I hope so.
Revolt will come from the Global South before it reaches the Imperial Core, but it will come. Exploitation is rising and productivity is too, so change will come.
I would love to see it, but I'm mostly just gobsmacked by how much balls-out plutocratic fuckery we're already accepting. Corporations snatching up all the houses, grocery stores jacking up prices with abandon, our sick joke of a medical system pricing us out of being alive, insurance companies charging more and covering nothing. People seem more upset about streaming services raising prices and shovelling ads into everything, but they're still fucking paying for them. It's insane the abuse that the public is willing to accept, provided that there's someone worse off who we can look down on.
Look all I’m saying is, when shit like this happened to medieval Chinese peasants, millions of landholders died and they still had more free time than us
(Before a liberal points out the obvious, I am aware technology has advanced since the Qing dynasty)
Bread and circuses
I never say this, but fucking preach
I hope the reckoning is swift and soon but I have a feeling this decade is going to end with most of us still saying "any day now"...
Always has been
🌍👨🚀🔫👨🚀
Pretty much
Unfortunately most of my friends don't see a reason to revolt. They think that there aren't enough of us.
I think the biggest issue is that we don't know what to do when we're mad anymore. People think that being mad is all you need - that if you say you're mad, things will change. I often see people get pissed about something, then calm down and move on, as if they somehow achieved something with their anger alone.
I'm hoping that there's some pressure going on under the surface, and people will eventually reach a point where enough anger has built up that they can't take it anymore and they really take action, but from what I've seen, people are so against the concept of acting upon angry feelings that I worry they'll just hold it in until they die.
Action needs to be organized and have a clear purpose. Disorganized, unfocused action is easily overcome by the powerful. After decades of a very deliberate culture of individualism, we have a psychological mountain to climb in finding our way back to focused collective action. Not to mention that the mechanisms of such action (such as labor unions) have been gradually dismantled for half a century or more.
We had unfocused action in the 2020 protests and it was laughably ineffective because of it.
The culture of individualism will be extremely hard to move past at this point. Also, the wealthy won't let it happen. If you think the police are only there to protect the wealthy's investments, just wait till we actually get some traction on any sort of labor movement.
There needs to be mass protests, but be sure to obtain the proper permits, avoid infringing on private property, coordinate with your local authorities on proper times and acceptable public places that won't interfere with commerce, avoid any sort of vandalism or violence because the message will be lost, and make sure not to alienate those who help your friends and neighbors to make a living.
Organize protests, but only within the boundaries that would render them useless.
Look at other countries, plenty of places where angry people are doing something about it...
Oh they know how mad you are. They just don't care. What the fuck you gonna do about it, pleb?
They do be looking pretty tasty right about now.
And I happen to have tons of barbeque sauce left over
Can we just flash mob this thing? I'll bring the grill
Which rich ass do you habe in mind? (I personally live in Germany, but if I can order takeout, that'd be great)
Nah, no one wants to eat dirty plebs.
So many are living in total wilful ignorance of politics that I don't think anything is going to happen, most people barely even look at the news and if they did they wouldn't understand most of it, nevermind the subtleties and nuance of identifying bias and dogwhistles etc., they just check twitter feeds for their product fandoms so they know when to consume product and when to get excited for the next product.
They are happy being fucked for all their labour value as long as they get that dopamine hit from whatever vapid bullshit is trotted out of some dystopian shithole like SK.
I've decided the best and most feasible thing I can do right now is thoroughly decoupling myself from the corporate consumerism world, I haven't had Netflix (boycotted over Chapelle initially then just stuck with it) in many years now and I just got around to cancelling Prime too, I've deleted all food delivery apps and I pirate all my media and use ublock/sponsor block everywhere, the only thing left to cancel is Spotify, I only ever buy used gadgets like old laptops that'd probably end up in a landfill, some of which I use to host Jellyfin etc.
I am sorry, but what does SK stand for? All I can think of is Slovakia and it is just too funny 🤣
I assume South Korea. Calling it a dystopian shithole seems kinda unfair (especially when the only land border is with an actual dystopian nightmare of a country) but there is valid reason for the criticism. Korea has an incredibly patriarchal society where calling out authority is seen as a big no-no. Working hours are intense. Time after work is frequently spent with your colleagues and boss because of strong social expectations, with it being normal to expect employees to stay out drinking until the boss is ready to go home. Pressure for students at school is so intense the government has had to make efforts to ban the ubiquitous "hagwon" private approval schooling. For many, not achieving a spot at the one specific university is considered failure. The economy is something almost literally out of a dystopia, controlled by a handful of "chaebols", massive family-owned conglomerates like Samsung, Hyundai, LG, and Lotte.
The Korean peninsula can have two dystopian shitholes, as a treat.
Very different kinds of dystopias though. One's basically taken right out of a cyberpunk novel with corporations ruling over an ostensibly-free populous. The other is an extreme authoritarian dictatorship where the government rules with an iron fist.
When you put it like that, it sounds like something out of Metro 2033.
Don't forget semi feudal levels of personal luxuries.
Gonna assume South Korea (angry kpop fan noises) or maybe Saskatchewan.
It's South Korea. Country is 3 corpos in a trenchcoat and the culture is based on merit where merit is how hard you slave for those corpos. Seeing that shit so pushedby the mainstream disgusts me.
I honestly think this is a very valid approach. Most people are imagining revolutions and a sudden and violent end to the capitalist class, but I'm more inclined towards the idea where people just change their life habbits so that they don't depend on massive corporations. Step one stop using crap you don't need, step two try to get the things you do need locally. If enough people do this, you might start seeing small communities that take care of a lot of stuff by themselves, and the moment you get a big enough community where at least some can live comfortably with little to no dependency from big corporations, things might change...
I'd like to believe it, but based on recent evidence, the next decade is going to be defined by how incredibly apathetic the general public continues to be about matters that actually affect our lives.
Employees where I work went on strike to accept pretty much the same deal two weeks later...
Great. When do we eat?
Good thing we only post on social media instead of actually do anything to improve the situation
Yay for slacktivism.
You love to see it
But you doubt the proletariat will do anything but kill each other
Maybe direct (organized) action. You know, in Minecraft.
That organized part is the hard part. Everyone is so atomized.
Yeah. Agreed. I even fall into that category sometimes. It's a difficult thing to overcome.
You mean like us all dabbing at the same time in Fortnite?
Sure. Don't play it, but I think you get the point. (I also don't play Minecraft)
I've seen a lot of comments like this for a lot of years...
In the 20th century, the "Roaring Twenties" ended with the great depression.
In the 21st century, we're in the "Screaming Twenties", and I hope it ends with a manic frenzy of plutocrat cannibalism... But I doubt it will have a catchy name or be called "great" by anyone.
Dear god I hope so.
I don't like asparagus
I made you some green beans Amandine and slow roasted cabbage, bon appetit.
If SpaceNoodle doesn’t want it, may I have their portions?
No, my partner loooooves asparagus.
Sure! My roast cabbage is honestly TDF. There is nothing better.
Can I have the Potatoes/Asparagus AND Green Beans/Roasted Cabbage options?
Also, will there be an open bar?
Yes and yes and yes. I have this lovely Fume Blanc I'm pouring.
I don't want it unless the green beans are fresh off the vine.
What kind of plebeian do you take me for? Eat your Got-damned beans.
Suffering winds the spring of reform.
God I hope so
Gosh, I hope so.
Revolt will come from the Global South before it reaches the Imperial Core, but it will come. Exploitation is rising and productivity is too, so change will come.