PSA: When people ask you "What distro should I use?", try pointing them here

JokaJukka@lemmy.world to Linux@lemmy.ml – 390 points –
Distrochooser
distrochooser.de

I found this site a while back - basically it will ask you a bunch of questions on your usage of your PC, and will came out with a list of recommended distros, and a list of reasons why YOU could like or not like it.

https://distrochooser.de/

There are some similar sites to this one, but since I'm not familiar with them, I won't post them. They are simply DuckDuckGo-able though.

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I appreciate distro chooser but I'd never recommend a newbie to use it. This just increases their choice paralysis, I chose beginner options and got recommended: Linux Mint, ZorinOS, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS, elementary OS, Xubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Pop!_OS...

And all of them had pretty much the same check marks. They're good recommendations but this doesn't answer the question, people will just look at the list and say "Okay... Which distro do I choose?"

Yeah it should really only give me 2, maybe 3 options. Distrochooser is supposed to be the one choosing, not the user

It should display the distros just like stemwijzer (Dutch site) displays its results in the end.

Yep, this was me when I first started out. The chooser was cool but didn't really answer the question of which one I should use first.

I eventually settled on Mint. Cinnamon left a lot to be desired imo, but otherwise it worked quite well and I'd recommend it as a first distro.

Showing all results it's fine IMO, they just need to make obvious the results are ranked with the "best match" at the top, so if the user doesn't know better or doesn't have any objections, they'll pick the top one.

If someone has to ask the question, just recommend Ubuntu or Mint.

@Obsession @JokaJukka I agree mint is really good for beginners. But I would suggest people to use different desktop environments first and choose a DE.
Then try different distros using that DE. See which one works well.

I personally like Gnome and cinnamon

Just install the DE you want on the distro you want... You aren't limited in your DE by your selected distro, and you can have multiple installed. most of the time you have a drop down when you login that lets you pick your DE.

@Coolcoder360 Installing a DE after installing a distro has often caused me a lot of bugs 🥴. Maybe it is just me

It's not just you. The DEs themselves generally don't mess with each other much, beyond possibly messing with each other's settings. But I've seen the the package post installation scripts cause issues. So it depends on the distro I guess.

@patatahooligan @aswinbenny I once installed kde alongside GNOME and it messed with all the settings. It changed the icons and even the fonts. I couldn't even restore the settings once I decided to stick to GNOME, but thankfully I had a snapshot ready to rollback.

Out of curiosity, what distro was this on?

I'm not the original person, but I've had exactly this happen before on both Arch and NixOS. Long ago when I was on Ubuntu I believe this also happened when I tried installing KDE (rather than wiping and installing Kubuntu). I've recently seen recommendations from people saying that if you're going to try to have both GNOME and KDE installed alongside each other, to keep one user only on one, and the other user only on the other so that their config settings don't get intertwined.

However right now I'm on Fedora Silverblue, I was on Kinoite and did a rebase to Silverblue (which means I went from KDE -> GNOME) and the only issue I had was a few icons were broken, which was resolved through setting it back to Adwaita in Tweak Tool. I'm guessing the fact that the rebase caused all of the KDE packages to get removed while installing the GNOME packages made it conflict less "violently" so to speak - which also had the nice effect of not having a bunch of duplicated apps as well.

I personally disagree. Distrochooser is a great tool for distrohoppers who want to experiment and see what's out there. it is a little less useful than DistroWatch's ranking list, but that requires more reading to figure out if something would be diving into the deep end.

My recommendation is to either look at the top ranked beginners distro on distro watch, or to just recommend mint. Someone's first distro should above all else get out of the way. It should be as stable as possible, have as much hardware support as possible, and be as default as possible (less distro customizations of packages). Troubleshooting info must be captured in an easily indexible knowledge base (nothing is worse than searching for help with something and all you can find is a stack exchange post marked duplicate or a forum post with one reply that says "did you try googling?")

I agree with the other comments that it isn’t a great tool for complete beginners. There’s a question that mentions systemd. A newbie won’t know what that means.

When I see people recommending Devuan or non systemd OS i'm like why? The newbie has no idea what the hell is systemd despite maybe that some people hate it for some reason so it must be bad lol

I've used Linux before albeit that was like a decade ago playing with Ubuntu but I had no idea how to answer that question. I don't want an app store and I don't want to install from the command prompt all the time. I just want to download something from the browser click it and it install it 😂 idk why that isn't even an option to pick since I'm pretty sure that's something you can do with Linux.

Either way I'm currently burning a Linux Mint/cinnamon flash drive to live boot and may dual boot it since I have an extra old SSD laying around.

I'm not pointing a Linux noob to any site that puts a big ol star nex to "suitable for daily use" under Gentoo.

Or Arch. Or Void. Like, I really like Arch and Gentoo sounds cool (although I never tried it), but maybe recommend something you can actually use without getting an aneurism during setup.

All these are fine for daily use if you have the Linux knowledge to use them. By ‘not suitable for daily use’ they mean special purpose distros like Knoppix, Tails, and Qubes. It’s somewhat confusing wording though.

There are way too many answers after you finish this quiz. You should recommend, at most, three options after the quiz. This doesn't help narrow down your options much at all.

I think the idea is to rank them from most to least suitable based on your answers, not narrow down. Just pick the "top 3" if you want a smaller sample.

Edit: this is not well documented, but it seems to be the case: the results are sorted based on the number of "reasons" to pick it according to your answers.

Yeah. If they want to keep the structure as is, they should score the results to make the compatibility levels more obvious

Yeah woah, these questions were supposed to narrow it down but instead gave me way to many options most of which weren't all that suitable at all.

I kinda feel like this is better for folks who've been at it for a little bit. There are way too many distros claiming to be beginner friendly for a tool like this to be helpful.

I think it's better to just send them to an easy to install, up to date distro that will suit their needs that has a DE that's easy to understand but different enough from where they're coming from to keep them from expecting it to work like windows. Stable updates from a GUI, software availability, and easy to use backup tools are all a plus.

Which OS am I talking about? Hell, I have no idea. Fedora? Maybe Vanilla 2 when it comes out? Certainly nothing Arch based (sorry, guys, I love arch too but it's not for beginners...).

Which OS am I talking about? Hell, I have no idea. Fedora? Maybe Vanilla 2 when it comes out? Certainly nothing Arch based (sorry, guys, I love arch too but it's not for beginners...).

I honestly think it's Ubuntu. If we put aside the biases many of us "experienced" users have against Ubuntu/Canonical/snaps, Ubuntu seems like the best choice. Well supported, wide community, sane defaults.

I'd agree if it weren't for the Snaps bullshit. Because of that, I don't want to recommend it to anyone because I don't want to encourage Canonical.

If I'm looking it from a new user's perspective, snaps offer an easy way to install many apps. If people actually care about their downsides they will eventually find out and stop using them on their own.

Yeah, I'm not talking about the technical issues. Those are just growing pains. Snap is really no better or worse than, say, Flatpak. I don't like dealing with it, but that's not why I wouldn't recommend Ubuntu.

It's stuff like redirecting apt installs to snaps. It's Canonical I have issue with, not Ubuntu itself.

If people ask me what distro to choose I say Mint.

Unless you already know what you want and need it is simply the best distro out there to get your feet wet. It is very competent in what it is doing and can be used by anyone no matter the experience.

Even though I believe there are better distros out there this is the only one I would recommend to people new to Linux and it is still a solid choice for experienced users alike. You can use it forever or branch out from there, both are very valid choices.

how would you compare Mint to MX Linux? Whats the biggest difference in your opinion?

When selecting a distro to mess around with, i just checked distrowatch to find the most popular distro and chose that (MX). My reasoning was that the resources like wiki/tutorials/forum posts would be most easily available with a more "popular" distro.

The main thing a newbie would benefit from with Mint is their extremely polished software appstore program, which is essentially a nice frontend to their repository that provides categories, reviews, and easy installation and management of your programs wrapped up in a polished, non-techie UI.

MX linux has a similar program installer for common apps, but it does not offer reviews, and does not give access to the entire Debian repo, eventually requiring you to use Aptitude, which is not newbie friendly at all.

Mint's Cinnamon interface is also extremely easy to use for a new windows convert.

I think the biggest difference is that it is based on Debian and is a bit more conservative. I prefer cinnamon over xfce and in its default even over KDE.

Really, I just assume better hardware compatibility and slightly newer packages from Mint and that's just about it.

Don't read too much into it. There is nothing wrong with MX, Debian or just plain Ubuntu either. In my opinion Ubuntu fixes a few problems Debian has and Mint does the same with Ubuntu. Because apt is widely supported the Debian family is a great choice anyway.

thank you! more up-to-date packages sound good to me, will have to check out mint, then.

The rage-forks (Like devuan) are way to prominent positioned. There should be a question (or fixed filter vor warning) about how stable the development processes are.

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I'm using Windows as my daily driver due to prioritising gaming over everything else. But I also have a 8-year old laptop which is stuck with Win 7, and I've been wondering if I should just install Linux on it to try things out. In the past, I've only ever tried Linux for short times, never used Linux as my main OS or longer than a week.

With this context, I've had the "which distro should I choose?" on my mind a few times. There's some obvious and some non-obvious issues with this questionnaire. I'll just go over my thoughts step by step:

  • "I want anonymous web browsing" and "distro which is supported by game publishers" can't be selected at the same time. Is this really true? I'm doubting my understanding of what "anonymous web browsing" actually means.

  • "I often need help from others" and "I have already used Linux for some purposes" can't both be selected. Why? The logic behind this is "You have used Linux at some point, so you can clearly solve some problems without asking anyone". Makes no sense, and/or the questionnaire's creator thinks that Linux is impossible for newcomers. I have used Linux in the past and I'm generally good in troubleshooting, but anyway.

  • "I want to use the default preset values in the installation assistant" is impossible to answer if I don't know which values are given as the default. My general answer would be "give me a default value for everything, but also let me change the things which I have an opinion about". An answer equal to this doesn't exist.

  • Pre-installed programs: this does feel like it lacks the answer of "let me choose what to install during installation of OS", but I guess I can just skip this question without answering since I don't care.

  • "There are many way to administrate a linux distribution" -> "I want to avoid systemd". I've never heard about systemd, and the explanation give on the page doesn't really help. For what reasons would I want to avoid it? My actual answer for this is "I really don't care", so I just skipped it.


About the result of the questionnaire: I did answer that "I'm fine with paying something", but it's not really something I aim for. The suggestions seem to tag "There is a non-free version available" as a plus for the distros, which really isn't what I answered - there's a difference between "I'm fine with something" and "I want something".

I also marked "supported by game publishers" with a star, because gaming is what I'm aiming to do on it. I have no idea if this even matters in practice, but it made sense as an answer when asked about. The smoothness of gaming experience will always be the primary reason for any choice of OS I'll make.

The first EIGHT answers on the list have either "Programs versions may not be up-to-date enough for gaming" or "May require additional configuration for gaming" as a downside/warning. The game publisher question is the only answer which I marked as important.

The first distro from the suggestions that included "supported by game publishers" is Linux Mint - which does match what I already had in mind, but I really feel like the ordering of the suggested distros feel off.


Short "review" about this: it really didn't help much. The list of suggestions is practically full of equally good distros, and I'm still stuck with the question "which one of these should I choose?". I only learned about more distros that I had never heard about before.

As for actually choosing the distro at some point later: I think that I'll just find out the top 5 most popular distros, and select from those. My reasoning for this is that it's much easier to find answers if/when I run into issues. Using a niche distro wouldn't really work for me - Linux isn't my hobby, I think OS is just a tool to run whatever programs/games I want to.

But this questionnaire doesn't have any data about popularity, so for my usecase, it lacks some information. I feel like it could use an additional question about "Are you fine with using a niche distro, or do you want to use a popular one?" - this question does have the issue of not being objective though, as there's no clear answer of what can be counted as "popular".

TL;DR good idea, but execution could be better.

I don't disagree with you.

All I want is for some objective statements about different distros. Like tell me what distro is a full time job to maintain. Tell me what distro is sending me to the command line all of the time. Give me some basic functionality benchmarks (search time, opening a browser and boot time) on a low, mid and high end computer.

If they are new to linux I think we should always point them to mint. Then they can use a distro chooser to explore the rest of what linux distro's have to offer.

What does Mint offer that other distros don't? Cinammon DE? KDE is just as easy to use, and looks modern and doesn't look like it's from 2004. Why has Mint specifically become the defacto "beginner" distro?

It's just another Ubuntu derivative with a DE nobody else seems to be using.

Ubuntu derivative

Is one reason.

DE nobody else seems to be using

Cinnamon is easy to use though. Seamless transition from windows to linux for people who don't know what they are really doing. When they get the hang of it, you can do some neat stuff with it.

Cinnamon is also an in house thing from the Linux Mint developers which is why it's most common there. There's a few other distros that have spins on it. Namely Ubuntu, Manjaro, Arch, Fedora, etc.

I dont know what if offers. Other than its very stable and if you ask for help and say you're on mint people are more inclined to help.

Linux on boarding has the same problem as the fediverse. When people first join they dont know where to start and its overwhelming. Thats why its nice to give them a landing pad where they can go and then after using it for a week or so they can move on to other options if thats what they want. Thats why I point people to mint.

Mint requires you to use the terminal the least of any distro I've used. I'm very comfortable with CLI but for people who have only used Windows or MacOS and never ventured beyond the GUI, Mint is the easiest transition because of its plethora of well-integrated GUI tools.

I agree that it's a bad recommendation. That was my first distro and the dated look was a huge turn off and a bad first impression for Linux. It just feels like a downgrade from Windows or MacOS, which makes for a terrible transition.

What Mint offers that many other distros don't is that it generally works well right out of the box, with just the initial install and no other tweaks, because it has proprietary drivers and other bells and whistles pre-installed. But so does Zorin and Pop_OS and both look much better. Those would probably be my top recommendations for a new user. All 3 of those distros have lots of online support (plus the general Ubuntu support that will usually be applicable as well).

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That's pretty much what I do now. Choice paralysis is a thing, and Mint is solid for people to dip their toes. The exception I've made if it's someone more techy to begin with, then I might recommend Raspbian on a Raspberry Pi as a starting point. But that's only if it's someone already into networking or Powershell scripting or similar.

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At the end I got a list of 29 distros, this is terrible. A user who is willing to go through all pros and cons and is able to compare them doesn't need this website to choose a distro.

I think it gives everyone the same list of 29, but it’s the order that’s important. Gentoo came back as my top. I use Void which came back as 4th in my list.

"I prefer a distribution which is supported by game publishers." feels like it sets bad expectations considering it's just "do you want a stable Debian/Ubuntu distro?" and 'game publishers' might be a little out of date with their wording/justification

While I appreciate this, there were far too many questions, which were pretty technical for a layperson. And even after picking the most basic options, I was still presented with like six variants of Ubuntu, including Mint and Elementary.

How about something like:

  • Do you use your computer more for games, or for work?
  • How much do you care about open source?
  • Do you know what a makefile is?

This put a minus on Debian because updates are slow but didn’t have one on Devuan or RHEL. I would not take these results too seriously. There is also no reason to rank Devuan and Artix as high as it did when I said I don’t care about systemd. The only reason to pick those over the upstream distros is for the init system.

It did recommend Arch as my top choice though which is what I’ve been daily driving for years.

Not enough curation. People can use whatever they want but you should never “recommend” many of these distros.

For example, with apologies to fans, nobody should be pushed to ElementaryOS anymore—especially not new users. I say this as somebody that loves the “idea” of it and find it beautiful.

I think they should have gone through the candidate distros, disqualified many of them for various reasons, and then mapped to the remaining ones with their questions.

I just did the questionnaire for shits and giggles, not expecting much. The top two suggestions were fedora and debian. I'm actually running fedora and debian on different machines. I wonder how much of a fluke that is, or if it really is that good. Anybody else, who's already happy with their distribution(s), tried it?

Yep, for me Arch was top of the list, followed by Gentoo and Void. I was completely expecting Arch or something like EndeavorOS to be at the top, so I'm totally unsurprised. Seems pretty good to me!

The intent's great, but I agree with the sentiment that if a beginner has to ask which distro is good for them, that questionnaire only cause them more trouble through choice paralysis.

I answered it in the mindset I had when I was just first installing my first Linux daily-driver, and I‌ got a lot of results, with Linux Mint, Zorin OS and Elementary OS being the top three. Haven't really gone through the distro-hopping phase (nor do I think I'd have the patience to), but I'm intrigued with the other two. It also says something about me who uses Arch, btw, but "gravitating" towards Ubuntu-based distros (or at least, that's what the results seems to be telling me).

This one is better. Much more accurate and robust.

I tried both. They have the exact same questions.

However the one op posted respects the "I don't want systemd" request. And I personally prefer to get multiple answers.

But the mobile webdesign on ops posted link was not great. So it's a wash for me.

I tried it and it recommended gentoo, devuan, and artix in the top 3. Which happens to be the 3 linux distros running on my computers.

I recommend Kubuntu for people coming from Windows because a lot of the keyboard shortcuts are the same besides, the default behavior is more or less like Windows. And since it's based on Ubuntu, they're more likely to find answers to any issues that they run in because of it's popularity. After a while they can choose to move to a distro of their choice once they are comfortable.

This is why I recommend Mint with Cinnamon DE. Same reasons. It's always interesting to see someone come to a different conclusion with the same reasoning. 🙂

I've stopped giving a choice because invariably newcomers I turn onto Linux pick the distro with the default wallpaper they like the best. Even within "don't worry about distros, pick a DE" that's still meaningless advice to someone who has only seen Windows. If you want me to install Linux for you, you're getting Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition. Because it's what I use, and it's what I can help you with the easiest. I can find my way around KDE or xfce but I already know my way around Cinnamon.

Plus one for Linux Mint Cinnamon. Easily the best beginner distro, IMO. If you're technical enough to advance past Mint w/Cinnamon, you're probably technical enough to not need a service like the linked website.

It's still nice to see tools like this coming out, though, as a show of support for newcomers to the ecosystem.

I took the test and it told me I should use Zorin. I've never even heard of that distro

It's a fairly popular noob distro, it's stylized to be very similar to Windows, to help people transition to Linux more easily.

Hey me too, even tho for the past few weeks i've been using Arch with no issues, i just suck at ricing and i alway end up imploding the os

In my opinion taking your time to find the Linux distribution you like the most, is not only a great learning experience, but also allows you to learn more about your own preferences.

I ran through this survey like questionnaire; deliberately skipping questions that would pigeon-hole me into Arch or some DE based decision (which is meaningless). [FYI I skipped the 'User Experience', 'Distribution: Scope' and 'Software:Updates' questions]

The useless thing ended up suggesting LITERALLY every linux distro. Here's a link the the results for a laugh https://distrochooser.de/en/d5fb48e83643/

it ranks them most suitable to least.

Which distro has the best HDR and GSync support? The questionnaire didn't even ask about it... :/

Well it can't ask everything.

If anybody is so clueless about Linux that they need to take a quiz like this, they should probably just use something easy like Mint or Ubuntu.

Well at least at the end of the questions the distro I use (Void) was somewhere near the top of the list (4th).

I have lately experienced a problem with my family. We have good computers, kind of bad computers and really bad and old computers. I can install a really cool distro on good computers, but not on the bad ones. I need a lighter DE on bad computers and a distro ready for old computers. But my family can't afford to learn how to use the 3 of them. So what is the solution here?

I'm thinking about installing the same distribution on all of them so that they don't have to get used to a new one every time they jump from one to another computer. I think that will be antiX.

I always had great luck with Linux mint and LXDE personally.

Did you use the link in this post yet?

@stevedidWHAT @iortega Your best bet is to use a distro that allows you to choose everything you install (at least your desktop experiences) so that you can install the lightest DE/WM you can. I would suggest something like CachyOS or Reborn, that have choosers and then choose something like openbox. Archcraft is also quite nice and light. I run it on an old machine and it runs beautifully.

How bad is really bad?

AntiX is a good choice. Other option is a usb3 drive for each family member so everyone has their own portable AntiX on a stick.

MX is the related project with a more standard install and could be worth a look, the Fluxbox option should be quite light.

Each user could have a personal AntiX system on persistent usb3 and each system could have a bare metal MX Linux install. Just see what wins out via natural selection over time.

LXQT is another option for a full desktop environment that will run on a potato. If family members are mainly just users and you are admin, the base OS may not matter much. They could switch between a potato running Alpine and a good system running Fedora and if they are just logging into LXQT to launch browser, office, email etc the internal system plumbing is not gonna concern them.

I like your solution! Thank you.

About my computers: I have 2 1GB RAM laptops. One has 20-25 years the other one 10-15. I have tried Puppy and antiX in these. And I personally prefer antix on them. Another 4GB laptop that might be around 8 but is pretty trash as it was a gift from our bank (it was able to run Elementary OS, it was fine). A kind of old computer but with 4GB RAM (Think I have XFCE or Cinnamon Mint on it). And a big boy with 16GB and a pretty good CPU. And the oldest computers are used the least often (maybe once a year) while the middle computer might be used 20 times a year and the last one maybe once every week.

So I believe something like antix would work, but I'm not sure if the USB way would. Seems like they would lose their pendrives the second day.

I'd put the 1gb ram laptops to server/kodi/retroarch/something mode and focus on the three decent machines for anything that requires a modern web browser, or add some ram. Porteus might be worth a shot if you've not tried it and want to push the Firefox on a potato idea.

I don't think this is a one OS fits all situation, unless maybe Gentoo.

The one thing it does best is offering the capability to share the results so that people can refer/link to it while making an inquiry as such.

If you just want it to work, and you're coming from Windows or Mac, use Ubuntu. It's a nice intro, and the hardware support is excellent.

Funnily i tried this as i was curious and it pointed me to the distro i was already using - Opensuse lmfao

No Linux From Scratch? Absolutely worthless.