Kremlin says Prigozhin plane may have been downed on purpose

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Kremlin says Prigozhin plane may have been downed on purpose
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Well, they would know wouldn't they.

Local butcher says someone chopped up this cow and put it into nice little convenient paper packages with a bit of twine for the low, low price of $6/lb

WHAT?!

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In other news, water is fluid

Hate to disagree but it's a solid.

Its a misconception that fluid means liquid. A fluid is a substance that has no fixed geometry, and conforms to the environment around it. If you adjust for time, you could make an argument that ice is a fluid, as glaciers flow almost like a river. Steam is definitely a fluid, as are all liquids and gases.

I heard a Russia expert on some podcast talking about the biggest thing to Putin is loyalty. That is why Nevalni is in prison and Prigozhin is a collection of pieces in a jar. Nevalni is an enemy, a trouble maker, who after Putin tried to kill us now in jail. He'll probably die there, but Putin is in no rush about it. He doesn't particularly care about Nevalni. Nevalni was never disloyal because he was never on the inside, he's always been an outside agitator.

Prigozhin was in the inner circle, he had Putin's trust, and he betrayed it. He was disalloyal, the most serious of crimes in Putin's Russia. The Russia expert said Prigozhin like knew when he retreated that his days were numbered. But why did Putin wait so long? He doesn't like to feel like he's pressured to do anything, he likes to take his time and strike when he feels like it, to make it clear that he's making a decision to act, not reacting to circumstances. Also, he may have wanted to lull Prigozhin into a false sense of security, trick him into thinking maybe he had been forgiven. Prigozhin appears to have thought so, posting about how he and Wagner were staffing up in Africa.

Anyway, the dude is cold, or at least that's how he wants to be perceived. He's sending a message about the importance of loyalty to him. Same with the Russia spies who got the nerve agent treatment in the UK after defecting to the west - disloyal = the harshest death penalty.

He also probably waited a bit to see who else might be emboldened to stand up to him.

He probably saw the coup as an opportunity to weed out any undesirables who expose themselves in favor of Wagner. As we all know, nobody stepped up.

Would've been interesting if at least 1 high-ranking official joined in with Prigo.

If you think about it, this really is the best way for him to get out of the spotlight for the coup attempt.

Plane crashed, everything is burnt to shit, some official list says he was on it, some poor blokes remains get buried, and he moves on living under a different name

They also confurmed it with DNA. Then again, a bottle of vodka to the right person, and the DNA test says the bloke who got buried was mr. Pringles.

There is zero chance he's still alive everyone saw the videos before the coup no way he stays quiet if he's still alive

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In other words "we did a poor job trying to convince the whole world it was an accident"

I think they're trying to pass it off as a terrorist attack.

I mean, it was a terrorist attack. Its just that in this case, the terrorists are the ones doing all the talking and investigating.

Those damn Ukrainian terrorists. I think at some point Russia needs to think about a military operation against them.

I'm sure they'll find evidence of a Ukranian special ops team in their investigation. Or maybe bomb parts in imperial sizes, indicating American origin. It doesn't matter what the lie is; just that they have one that can't be questioned.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MOSCOW, Aug 30 (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Wednesday that investigators were considering the possibility that the plane carrying mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin was downed on purpose, the first explicit acknowledgement that he may have been assassinated.

The plane crashed exactly two months since Prigozhin took control of the southern city of Rostov in late June, the opening salvo of a mutiny which shook the foundations of President Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Russia has informed Brazil's aircraft investigation authority that it will not probe the crash of the Brazilian-made Embraer (EMBR3.SA) jet under international rules "at the moment", the Brazilian agency told Reuters.

The day after the crash, Putin sent his condolences to the families of those killed and said he had known Prigozhin for a very long time, since the chaotic years of the early 1990s.

The Kremlin has rejected as an "absolute lie" the suggestion by some Western politicians and commentators - for which they have not provided evidence - that Putin ordered Prigozhin to be killed in revenge.

Followers of Prigozhin laid flowers, messages and poetry at his grave on Wednesday, hailing him as a fearless warrior.


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Im shocked, shocked! Well not that shocked.

Try it like this: ![](https://media.tenor.com/QrTqjCgS2lsAAAAM/obi-wan.gif)

Better yet, like this for accessibility:

![Well, of course I know him. He's me](https://media.tenor.com/QrTqjCgS2lsAAAAM/obi-wan.gif)

well, of course I know him. He's me

Yeah I'm not sure about that, maybe certain accessibility apps can get that text but it doesn't appear when you hover over with the mouse.

I've been misled?

It's in there. If I right click and select accessibility it comes up there, so presumably accessibility apps should be able to parse it. But whatever creates the hover-over text is another metadata variable, and that isn't set to anything.

If you type it like this you can imbed: ![](link)

Although it looks like your link goes to a page, rather than directly to the file. The link for that is https://media.tenor.com/sLU0qs_Oa30AAAAd/patrick-star.gif so we can imbed with that as ![](https://media.tenor.com/sLU0qs_Oa30AAAAd/patrick-star.gif)

Doing the (insert omnipotent being here)'s work! In these situations I always wonder if there's a page, or something, that I should know about that describes all kinds of format/syntax requirements in 1 place. So, ugh, does that exist?

Not that I'm aware of lol. Obviously the main thing lemmy uses is Markdown, but I think the syntax is expanded for links and such. Like, there's also the various ways you can link to communities and users - some are instance agnostic, some aren't.

  • /c/community@instance - will create an instance agnostic community link.
  • !community@instance - will also create an instance agnostic community link.
  • /u/user@instance - will create an instance agnostic user link, but will not send a mention to the user's inbox.
  • @user@instance - typing on the website pops up a dropdown box that allows you to select the user, when you click it generates the code [@user@instance](https://instance/u/user), which is not agnostic (it's in the user's instance) but does send a mention to the user.
  • ![accesssibility text](image link) will create an imbedded image.

The first 3 can be a little hit and miss, as they don't use actual link code but instead rely on the instance or app to generate the link. Lemmy instances running v0.18 and above have this function, with apps it varies more.

There's also currently no easy way to link individual comments or posts across instances. Each lemmy instance assigns each post and comment a number, but every instance assigns a unique number so none of them line up. I'm hoping that eventually they'll just let the first instance decide the number, then every other instance could use number@instance for their copy.

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I don't believe that sam fired on its own it was the nazi Ukraine wings can fall off you know