Republican lawmakers to introduce resolution to expel Rep. George Santos from Congress

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Republican lawmakers to introduce resolution to expel George Santos from Congress
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A group of House Republicans from New York are introducing a resolution to expel Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., from Congress.

"Today, I’ll be introducing an expulsion resolution to rid the People’s House of fraudster George Santos," Rep. Anthony D'Esposito, R-N.Y., said in a post on the social media platform X.

He said the resolution will be co-sponsored by fellow New York House Republicans Nick LaLota, Mike Lawler, Marc Molinaro, Nick Langworthy and Brandon Williams.

Booting Santos would require a two-thirds vote of the entire House.

The move comes a day after federal prosecutors issued Santos a 23-count superseding indictment alleging he committed identity theft, fraud and other offenses. Santos has said he plans on fighting the charges and pleaded not guilty to the charges in the original 13-count indictment earlier this year.

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Imagine being such a piece of shit that even the Republicans don't want to associate with you.

It's because he fucked with their money...

He made up like 500k in donations so that the Republican party would "match" and they gave him 250k.

So now the other Republicans who could have gotten that money are pissed

Winner winner chicken dinner. They don’t give a fuck about all the bigots and rapists in office, it’s sticking your hand in the cookie jar that’s the real sin.

It took a 23-count indictment to make it happen, however.

It wasn't so much the 23 counts as it was the fact that he basically stole money from the Republican party. Theft of (Republican) money is the most heinous of crimes!

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I don't really get it. Santos is the most Republican to have every Republicaned. He's a lying, grifting, fraudster who knows practically nothing about anything and only got where he was by lying his way in and betraying the trust of everyone who backed him. He's so unhinged he doesn't even know where his lies stopped.

He's like the American conservative mascot. I'm surprised they don't name him Speaker.

You don’t steal from the rich

It's the oldest rule from the oldest thieves' guilds from before there were cities: It's OK to take a little from Jimmy's cut, maybe OK to take a little off what you were gonna give to your mother, but you never. NEVER. take anything from the capo. The boss.

It’s all a stunt. These republicans are just saving their own skin, fully knowing that vast majority of their own party won’t expel this asshat.

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Plot twist: the Republicans will now fail to elect a speaker so the resolution will never be read.

Yeah, they've given George Santos a perverse incentive to vote against any viable speaker candidate to prevent this measure from coming to the floor. Or he could make his vote contingent on the new speaker not bringing it.

Can’t he also bring up a vote to unseat any speaker? The Gift That Keeps Giving.

That was the deal with McCarthy, not clear if that's the deal that anyone else will have

It's House rules for this legislative session unless they vote to change it.

He can bring up the vote, but that doesn't mean it will succeed. If they want him gone, they will vote it down and then vote him out. Or they will just do the vote him out first.

I was gonna say...can they even do that without a Speaker?

So this is just performance, it seems, with no ability or intention of following through.

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It's New York GOP, not the entire party. The New Yorkers need to have some cover, but know that the rest of the party will kill the resolution.

Political theater.

But it takes 2/3 to remove him. No way there are enough Republicans with morals and integrity for that to happen.

Wait so only republicans vote? I thought it was the whole house.

It is the whole House. Right now, there are 221 Republicans and 212 Democrats. So 289 votes are needed to expel Santos. You can safely assume that all Democrats will vote to expel so the Republicans will need to come up with 77 more votes. This is a little over half. If half of all Republicans can't agree on this, it will fail. A little over a third of Republicans would need to vote for this.

Edit: 289 votes are needed, not 325.

How did you get 325? There are 435 members normally (433 assuming your numbers are right with vacancies, which seems believable.) 2/3 of 435 is 290.

So you'd only need ~78 republicans with morals. Still wouldn't happen, but weirder things have.

Oops. You're right. I'm not sure how I made that mistake. I'll edit my comment.

It is, but you'd need a substantial portion of Republicans to break ranks and vote to expel a member of their own party (reducing their vote margin) in order to expel him, since the Republicans are the majority

I hope to see it but certainly not holding my breath.

This will go nowhere. If they can let him cast his votes from prison, they will.

It would still be nice to see which of them think that he is part of the gang.

the social media platform X

It's still funny that people have to say stuff like this now instead of just "Twitter".

I'd prefer if they'd just say "stupid fuck Elon Musk's X"

My reading of that headline was a rollercoaster.

First I read it as "Republican Lawmakers introduce resolution...", and I was excited and pleasantly surprised.

Then I reread it and realized it was, "Republican Lawmakers to introduce resolution...

And suddenly I was Dwight Schrute.

How does it work? If there were a third party in the congrees, would the two biggest parties just be able to expel all members from that party from house since they can easily get 2/3 majority?

In theory yes, in practice not so much since they'd probably be useful to one side or the other for votes.

Notice how this was conveniently done at a time when the House is shut down and there's zero chance that this is actually taken up.

They have to find a speaker first. Then we have issues like Ukraine and Israel to deal with. And then we're right up at the time where the GOP will manufacture another debt ceiling "crisis". Then maybe they'll find time to expel one of their own mem........oh I can't even finish typing that sentence. You know they'll just never mention it again.

This is just virtue signaling. They don't want to expel Santos because they need his vote. They just want to look like they actually care about corruption in their own party. So they're doing this now, knowing full well that there's almost no chance anything actually comes out of it.

(And yes, I guarantee you it's why Schumer hasn't taken a hard line on Menendez. He needs his vote in the Senate just as badly.)

I bet Menendez is out before Santos.

Since 1789 the Senate has expelled only 15 members. Of that number, 14 were expelled during the Civil War for supporting the Confederacy.

Are they sure they have power to do that to the Emperor of America?

He's no Norton.

I read a great biography of Norton years ago. He was born in South Africa and was pretty wealthy for a while, but lost everything and then lost his mind.

Can they do this without having a speaker?

Do Gaetz next.

Is anyone else weirded out by the phrasing "the People's House"? It seems strangely out of place and it's worded like it's some kind of official title.

Of course, it is the Peoples house. It just depends on the definition of "people", and it looks like this does not include the general populace. More like "People like us" or something.

Yeah, but phrasing it that way makes it sound more like a "People's Republic of" kind of reference, which I thought was weird.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A group of House Republicans from New York are introducing a resolution to expel Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., from Congress.

"Today, I’ll be introducing an expulsion resolution to rid the People’s House of fraudster George Santos," Rep. Anthony D'Esposito, R-N.Y., said in a post on the social media platform X.

Booting Santos would require a two-thirds vote of the entire House.

The move comes a day after federal prosecutors issued Santos a 23-count superseding indictment alleging he committed identity theft, fraud and other offenses.

“If they want to be judge, jury and arbitrator of the whole God damn thing let them do it,” Santos said, responding to the resolution as he ran to his office from a Republican conference meeting.

Santos's New York colleagues had previously called for him to resign in light of the criminal charges and revelations


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I don't think they can vote for said resolution until a speaker is elected or rules are changed. Santos would have a vote on both of those things.

This is because he once wore the clothing typically worn by women but he's a man, probably. The corruption is pretty much table stakes for these people.

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