House Republicans Introduce Bill to Expel Palestinians From the Country

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House Republicans Introduce Bill to Expel Palestinians From the Country
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Republicans have a racist new idea amid the war on Gaza.

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Wild one but hear me out, we deport all the Republicans to Israel.

No because they would settle the West Bank and further the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

There's also a high probability they'd kill both sides to trigger the rapture/out of racism

Deport the leftists to Venezuea/Russia and I think people will agree

Can we start the deportations with this one?

Do you just sit around and get high and think of the most inane communities to moderate or is that a natural talent? Kind of a serious question

Why? Because left == communism? Yo the communists balk at that suggestion if you ever wander over to hexbear or lemmygrad

Since when has Russia ever been a leftist state, oh right, never. It was an authoritarian state during the USSR that called itself communist. Now it is a "democratic" authoritarian state. Sweden which is a socialist democracy is far closer to socialism than the USSR ever was, and it's a wonderful country. I had members on my team that lived there.

Yeah these fucks never threaten to send us to the Nordic Countries, because most of us would go in a heartbeat

Gotta wedge those issues.

Gotta communicate to their base that it's really ok to stab 6 year olds dozens of times if they are of Palestinian heritage.

Gotta communicate to their base that it's really ok to stab 6 year olds dozens of times if they look like they are of Palestinian heritage.

FTFY

As if they care if you can tell the difference.

True that.

A 6 year old. I just can't wrap my head around it. The landlord played with the kid. Built him a fucking treehouse.

Oh and he pleaded not guilty. Not. Guilty. He actually looked his lawyer in the eye and said that.

This is the problem with Democratic voters turning on Biden over Gaza. The Republican stance is that all Palestinians are Hamas, and they should be either killed or exiled. "Not calling for a ceasefire quickly enough" isn't a thing on the right, and it never will be.

Also, biden's biggest problems right now are that more black and Latino voters are moving to the republican side. The polling today was really worrying.

What latinonor black person would ever vote republican?

More to the point, why is the US so chokeful with people voting against their own vest interests?

Immigrants shockingly often vote conservative.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/party-affiliation/by/immigrant-status/among/state/florida/

I am not sure what these results mean exactly. Perhaps the third generation is some specific type versus the second.

The result of successful disinformation campaigns coupled with subpar education and indoctrination?

Latinos are very religious in general. That leads to them having very conservative views, and easily voting for republicans. Really odd with most republicans wanting to deport all of them, even naturally born ones, but they have that lean.

Kanye, Ice Cube, and presumably Lil’Wayne/Kodak Black because Trump pardoned them

And they influence others

The only thing those voters ask from Biden is to represent them too in this conflict. He doesn't, so putting the blame on them if he loses the elections, is not fair.

Also he made it clear he doesn't care about their voices, so all he has to do is replace those votes with Jewish voters I guess? Muslims and Jews make up 1% each of the entire US population (census 2020), so it'll straighten itself out.

US Jews aren't that closely alligned to Israel; particularly if you are talking about the current Israeli leadership (which a significant portion of Israelis also aren't alligned with). Further, the preferences of US Jews is pretty corralated to their political party; where Jewish Republicans are far more pro Israel than Jewish democrats.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

The above survey is old, but I don't think the story has fundamentally changed.

Across all US Jews (as of the time the survey was conducted)

40% rate Netenyahus leadership as good or excellent (25% of Democratic Jews, 80% of Republican Jews)

34% Strongly oppose the BDS (anti Israel Boycott, Divest, Sanctions) movement. (28% Democratic Jews, 54% Republican Jews)

33% Thought that Israel was making a sincere effort to peace. (20% Democratic Jews, 66% Republican Jews)

32% Thought that God gave Israel to the Jews. (22% Democratic Jews, 60% Republican Jews).

When people talk about the "Jewish" position for Israel in thr context of US politics, they are really talking about the Republican position.

"Lesser of two evils" is sure slipping more and more towards "evil", isn't it.

That's...the entire point of the phrase.

Are you just realizing this?

Boy are you in for a surprise when you find out that "cutting off your nose to spite your face" is slipping more and more towards the face not having a nose anymore.

That's an odd response to what I wrote...what I said is that the two choices are becoming more and more evil, not that they are evil in the first place. Which is not how that phrase has typically been used (to justify selecting the lesser of the two evils).

Which, side note, may make sense in the context of, there are actually only two choices. But what we do is collectively lock ourselves into those two choices and then choose between them, when there are not only other parties and independent candidates we could support, but entirely separate political systems we could move to.

The entire point is selecting the lesser of two evils.

If you choose to eat strawberry ice cream instead of dog poop, that's not selecting the lesser of two evils.

If you choose to eat bugs instead of dog poop, that's where you'd refer to it as the lesser of two evils.

Having an objectively good option and an objectively terrible one isn't choosing the lesser of two evils.

Having a terrible one and a slightly less terrible one is.

You are correct that we shouldn't need to be choosing between the lesser of two evils, but that phrase only really applies when both options suck.

Has there been an election in the last 2 days since they decided this?

Inb4 all the progressive voters who think long term enough to say "I'm not voting for Biden in 24"! 😂😂

Today's republican party: Always looking for new lows to sink to.

The republicans are not really governing: they are pandering. There's no way such a measure could become law with the Democratic majority in the Senate. Even if such a measure became law, the Supreme Court would have to completely redefine due process for this to remain law, however, the Supreme Court did decide in favor of internment camps for Japanese American citizens, so I supposed this can not be ruled out.

Because of the Trumps presidency a lot of laws got changed that I would not have imagined possible. You don't give the republicans enough credit for how much they can and will fuck up this country. The supreme court will have no trouble twisting the meaning of laws abd words to fit their agenda because they are not using laws in good faith.

Ryan Zinke is a close minded, selfish asshole.

I'm ashamed he represents Montana in Congress.

At this point, I say that if we're going to fund the displacement of Palestinians we had better damned well be prepared to receive them as refugees.

also democrats: lets send weapons to the fascists in israel to help their genocide

America is a one party state, but in typical american extravagance they have two of them

Republicans: draft yet another racist bill aimed at hurting minorities and refugees

This guy: Fuckin democrats

Tbf, I don't expect much from someone who names themselves after Stalin and thinks they have sensible political opinions

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Love to see it.

It's even more horrifying. America does have 2 parties, it's just they've collectively dragged the overton window so far right that the "left" party is still to the right of most countries (extreme) "right" parties.

Similar results, but require very different fixes.

There is no real "Left" in American politics. You have Eisenhower Republicans, and then you have Nazis. Choose.

thats kind of what i said, but the difference between the parties is minuscule.

Watching, as an outsider, there's not. That fact is truly horrifying. The democrats are roughly aligned with the UK conservative party. Shitty but tolerable. The republicans are way off in the sticks, with no comparison.

By analogy, democrats are like being shot in the gut with a high power paintball gun. The republicans are like being shot with a high caliber revolver. Both involve getting shot, both are unpleasant, but one is still FAR worse than the other.

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Internally in the US there is a fairly large policy difference between D and R.

When it comes to foreign policy, you are correct. There is no difference between them.

On this issue yes, on other issues, no. See: Republicans wanting to cut all support to Ukraine so that Daddy Vladdy can win his war.

Don't forget that the 2016 DNC hack was accompanied by an equal hack of the RNC, it's just that the Republican info was saved as kompromat where the Democratic info was released in the short term to damage them and help Trump win the election so Putin could have his puppet in the White House.

Counterpoint:

Obama expanded the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, massively increased the drone strikes and continued the support for Saudi Arabia (the country that financed 9/11 and the nationality of the majority of those involved).

When it comes the US foreign policy, neither side is the good guy.

The US is an imperialist murder machine, i don't really care if some say they support my right to live or not. They'll just kill me in the water riots like anyone else.

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On this issue yes, on other issues, no. See: Republicans wanting to cut all support to Ukraine so that Daddy Vladdy can win his war.

you crazies think the republicans support putin? are you fucking deranged?

once again americans lean on the good ol reliable of "THOSE FUCKIN RUSSIANS" whenever they fuck up. This is extremely pathetic, your politics are that of a child.

Moscow Mitch. Cheeto Mussolini. Graham Cracker.

Those are but three. Yes, they support Russian propaganda and policies. The GOP are feckless, self-serving cock-whistles. Sounds like you are, too.

Moscow Mitch. Cheeto Mussolini. Graham Cracker.

those are terrible names, except maybe moscow mitch that one has potential

and who said i support putin, the bastard is a neoliberal cuck for oligarchs that rape the people of the post soviet world.

Oh baby, then all of america is a putin stooge, they're the ones that put him in office! The russian federation is a monstrosity of america's own hand. You would have been better off leaving the east alone. You americans started this war, these are all america's monsters.

Again though, america pulls the strings, only an absolute ideological cuck would think something as stupid as (don't laugh) AMERICA BEING CONTROLLED BY RUSSIA

Putin stooge im dying

if anything the republicans would only want russian allies to end the world in a war with china.

Google "Republicans 4th of July Moscow"

Our nations birthday and where are all these traitorous fucks? Taking orders from Putin.

And no. America did not put Putin in power. He made a power play on Yeltsin and had the presidency handed to him. Being the former head of the KGB, he knows how to press people to get what he wants. America also did not start the Ukrainian war, that started when Putin invaded in 2014 and stole Crimea. It can end today, Putin just had to go home. America should've bombed his personal mansion(s) for Crimea too, as we swore to defend Ukraine against an aggressive Russia when Ukraine gave up their nukes but Obama's a bitch.

If you really believe your astroturfing you haven't paid any attention to American party politics in, at least, the last 10 years. I know, cuz I do, almost religiously. Some people follow sports, some people like celebrities. I read, in this order, my cities, my counties, my states, then national, and finally international geo-politik. Political science/economics/philosophy are what I'm all about and not a fucking word of anything youve said has even an ounce of coherency to it.

More accurately it's Putin supports the Republicans, and he's financing the far right in every other western nation as well. World's richest man and all, Putin owns them.

Republicans: repeat Russian propaganda, spend major US holidays in Russia, are played on Russia state TV, try to defund Ukraine. You: obviously they don't support Russia!

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although you are correct about foreign policy i'd like to differ on the internal policy

Internally it seems no different either, the Reps forward racism and extortion, the dems dont do anything to stop it and in fact keep anything from undoing the republican's changes

they're really quite the same, the dems just have a blm sticker on as they increase funding for the militarized police state

Even if that were true (it's not) those are still two very different choices

You're being downvoted but you're not really wrong. Biden just sent millions of more dollars to the cops " to protect schools " as if American police departments aren't already some of the most heavily armed and well equipped police in the world right now.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4289536-biden-administration-334m-police-officers-school-security/

The Republicans are definitely more overt in their anti women and anti queer rheortic and actions, but the dems are fortifying the military industrial complex when the writing on the wall is clearly that these weapons will be used agaisnt the people domestically rather then protecting any schools or whatever bullshit reason they come up with.

Many police have been openly supportive of fascist movements and helped facilitate Trumps election in the first place. Not to mention most American cops seem to think that the BLM protests were worse then J6. Giving them more weapons and power will only result in more death for the average person. They're a quasi military/state within state force at this point.

The fact that this critism is not taken at face value is insane. Biden is a racist bootlicker in his own right. Democrats will sell the rope to the Republicans that they will use to hang them with.

So, giving more funding to cops is the exact same thing as the culture war Republicans have drummed up. Huh, interesting take. Also interesting to note that the one person you mentioned who is actually moderate at best is the sole representation of the entire Democrat party. No nuance and no other ideas are allowed. Just Biden's. Got it.

So, giving more funding to cops is the exact same thing as the culture war Republicans have drummed up.

More or less. Who do you think fights on the frontline of the " culture wars " ? And yes, Biden is the leader. He represents the party. You wouldn't make such foolish defenses for Trump or the GOP, but will for democrats.

Downvoters without commenting their dissent are just cowards, I wasn't expecting good anti imperialist takes from lemmyworld anyhow

which is why im very surprised someone like you is here, your voice is a rock in a storm, I thank you.

The dems have also continued building the wall, opening several large oil extraction projects, and have ended any response to the still very active covid crisis.

But libs will take the lies at face value without doing anything to look at the actual actions being taken. After BLM most democrat mayors increased police spending and cracked down on all BLM movements. BLM failed, it was co-opted into a useless saying and hashtag. The dems exist to break the american left and turn everyone into mindless liberals.

Mother Anarchy loves her sons, and daughters too.

Because they appropriated the words of Malcom X and Martin Luther without ever actually reading what they said about America!

Anarchy is our mother! She cannot be sold! Long live the rebellious souls!

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