Reddit Admins hand /r/SnackExchange over to a moderator with no experience. Other subreddit moderators fight in comments.

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This is hilarious tbh. Please don’t get me wrong, I really feel for the mods who put so much time and energy into the sub (all subs for that matter). It sucks.

But god, watching reddit implode feels so fucking good. Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron, and it’s nice to see his web site fall from grace so publicly.

I can't wait to see their IPO fail dismally, at least I hope so.

I don't think it will. They will go with the "single greatest resource for AI data" angle and make bank. They aren't ignoring this backlash just to kill some apps.

Yeah, which is precisely why it's important to ruin the product with random spam, racism, overly sexual comments, lorem ipsum and for good measure some fetish porn and gore images.

Wasn't Microsoft training an AI from Twitter and it basically turned into the aforementioned garbage?

I doubt that companies would enjoy to train their models on a foul dataset filled with nonsense, hatred, porn and gore.

I guess this could be a way to finally create that genocidal AI everybody keeps promising us is definately coming.

at least I hope so.

I don't think it will.

Sorry for refusing to participate in this extremely gay "fuck u/spez!" circlejerk, but at this point it seems clear that they won.

Oh, well. Lemmy works just fine. Can we move on now?

Zoomers when something takes more than 5 seconds to happen:

People on the Internet who refuse to consider outcomes they don't want to be true:

He's a Zoomer! He's dumb!

Just for the record:

  1. I'm a Millenial

  2. If Reddit's IPO fails, great! You won't see me complaining.

I don't see it failing, but if it does, I'll happily be wrong.

AOL and Yahoo still exists and their CEO didn't make a sobbing tiktok video inside their car, which means they won!

Downvoted only for your shitty use of the term "gay". Everything else I agree with.

They're shooting themselves in the face, but the gun won't go off until Friday. They're kicking out everyone who is addicted to the site enough to install a third party app for it. I really hope that RIF and Apollo redirect people to Lemmy after this weekend.

Hey, I hope it dies too. Reddit sucks.

It really could go either way at this point though.

Oh man, the real Armageddon’s gonna start when the 3PAs die. No more Reddit for me afterwards.

Christian announcing Reddit for Lemmy/Kbin would be icing on the cake, but I just don’t see that happening.

Spez is an abrasive asshole and, it turns out, also a moron

Is he really abrasive? I haven't seen him say anything outside of what I'd expect an exec of a company to say.

Is he really a moron? Dude is walking away with a lot of zeros in his bank account. From what I can tell, it sounds like he's pretty happy with the outcome.

God I’m so tired of seeing people equate being rich with not being a fucking moron.

Right-wing brainrot, the rich have to be successful, otherwise why were they licking those boots?

They successfully navigated a system that was more likely than not highly stacked in their favor thanks to their rich family and the other people like them that they know. They then horde all the wealth while other people who can't get their teeth fixed or decent medical treatment applaud them from the slums. It's pretty depressing how this is all considered normal thanks to right-wing influence on social media.

Right.

People aren't smart because they stumbled into a handful of zeros. Everyone blows Musk but he was just born into blood diamond money. He didn't actually do anything. Neither did Spez, he just makes money off other people's content.

Strip all these CEOs of their extra zeros, strip them of their user generated content, then ask them to rebuild their wealth by actually providing a good or service and watch them flop.

See, that's the thing. I'm not a fan of Musk or Spez, and I never claimed to be.

Ultimately I think Elon Musk gets a ludicrous amount of attention.

My whole point was that (a) it seems like Spez doesn't care, which really begs the question of how much energy this is worth investing in and (b) people in his position often get what they want (money) because they have to deal with this exact kind of situation.

If Reddit dies, it dies, and I'll consider myself wrong. If Spez totally gets owned and loses, great!

Either way, I think it's ok to move on.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they expected this reaction.

Anyway, Lemmy is fine; it's a nice alternative. I'd rather just let Reddit go in whatever direction it ends up going in than keep getting angry about it.

I'm glad that there is an alternative. Maybe we can try and learn from Reddit and do what we can to prevent Lemmy from going in that direction, yeah?

is he really abrasive?

Spez is a liar, a cheat and a habitual editor of comments that insult him. He’s also incredibly petty and rude.

is he really a moron?

He hired 2,000 employees to run a site like Reddit, has effectively destroyed the website’s image and the ongoing protests have revealed to people why it’s such a shitty investment.

His riches are all luck, not brains; he can’t even sell one of the most visited sites in the world without gutting it first.

Let's not forget that Daddy Elon is his biggest hero and Reddit could become a shit show like Twitter.

Yeah, let’s not forget that he’s a Musk fanboy and probably believes all the shit he said about Twitter.

He’s also a doomsday prepper who believes he’ll be some sort of ‘leader’

Gotta make money for when the world ends.

Can we find his bunker and take turns shitting in it?

This is why their moderators' best weapon is to not moderate and let all hell break loose. Reddit will then be forced to pull this shit and it'll go to hell fast. It's their best weapon, better than going NSFW or dark in protest. Just silently stop moderating and let Reddit and advertisers notice when they aren't.

I wish they had already started doing this. Once the moderators are screwed over and replaced by people who can't fill their shoes, it's already too late; those mods are probably never coming back even if Reddit wanted them to. And after the apps stop working on Saturday, the damage will already be done.

This is a good thing, the faster and harder reddit crashes, the more people will move to better platforms which are run not by corporations leaching money from entirely user created content while making the experience actively worse (long before this latest incident).

Reddit backtracking for half a year and turning up the heat slower was the worst case outcome.

True, I just miss how active Reddit was. Hopefully one day Lemmy is just as or more active than Reddit.

I just deleted my account. Welp that's 15 years gone. Feels good. Tastes like chicken.

Ditto. I've been on Reddit since before the big Digg exodus. Cancelled my premium sub and deleted my account on Sunday.

It will be back, I have tried deleting my account about 6 times now and it always gets undeleted along with all the content.

14 years here. Ran it through https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite first, without deleting the account, in case they restore the comments: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/issues/43

PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet. But, I'm not about to go through a decade+ plus of comments and posts in order to find the tiny amount of things that could actually be useful for others.

PS: I know about the implications of potentially removing contributions to the internet.

Reddit does not get to continue to profit off of any contributions I've made to the internet, one way or another. Anyone convincing you not to delete comments on reddit is a scab more concerned with maintaining the status quo so they don't get inconvenienced.

It frustrated me when Reddit made the initial decision to screw over app developers. Having done dev work in the past, I know the time that goes in to them so someone asking for a little money in return is the least we can do. But no, Reddit just say "Screw you guys"!

As if that was not enough, they are now showing that they really don't care about the many moderators that have painstakingly put years of 'free' time in to building these communities, the same communities that are the foundation of Reddit!

I am sure we are going to see a lot more of these admin takeovers in the coming weeks and it is the very reason I am over here and why Lemmy is seeing the incredible growth curve. Long may that continue.

His replies to negative feedback is either "deal with it xoxoxo" or "you're right but I don't really care lol".

Something tells me it ain't gonna work.

The moderator with no experience will be more likely to do what they want.

lol Reddit’s death has finally started. Can’t wait to see spez’s asswipe shills bring the whole thing down with their incompetence.

EDIT: I went through the subredditdrama post, and looking at some of the comments made me glad I’m leaving that place.

Now that I have some distance from daily reddit, and time in what is really a much better community here, going back there makes me realize how poor quality so much of the content is, both posts and comments.

Yeah, much of Reddit is absolute trash. It’s really hard to find dedicated communities for anything, but most of ‘em are much better than Reddit for everything ‘cept reach.

Really, the only communities I’ll miss are niche hobby communities. The rest of the website could crash and burn for all I care.

The reposts and site culture clichés were already driving me batty. I did get a lot of good info from a couple rather niche communities about chronic illnesses, but they turned into answering the same questions and having the same discussions over and over. I can definitely live without telling another 5,000 people how to get tested for Celiac disease.

Sounds exactly like the behaviour of a company headed towards an IPO. Keep that dumpster fire burning!

So he scabs as a total noob first time mod, AND his whole plan is rely on bots that won't work in a few days and require govt id to mail someone some chips?

Fucking lulz

Shoutout to the mod who just bailed immediately 😂

In 3 days when third party apps die it's going to be so fucking funny lmao. Lemmy is gonna explode.

That is a problem... if it does, there needs to be an announcement made on time by the biggest instances to NOT register on them, but register on smaller instances.

People are going to all be sheep and go to the biggest one regardless, assuming it is just like Reddit.

And if that happens Lemmy will be in a bad spot, because the network can't handle a mass exodus from Reddit. Which in turn will lead to people coming back to Reddit announcing that the Fediverse is unstable and broken garbage.

I used to love that sub. Not that I ever actually exchanged snacks, but I thought it was cool that random people would just get together and mail snacks from one side of the world to another.

Ohh so that's what it is, from the name I thought it would be a meme sub about Stack Exchange

I think those are called death throes.

death throes noun : the violent movements and noises that are sometimes made during passing.

Damn, this subreddit will surely meet it's demise

Having no mod is better than having a bad one

I'd like to see about implementing some sort of identity verification service for the sub. I'm an IT engineer/developer, so coding is absolutely my forte... Services like Stripe allow people in over 100 countries to match face to government-issued-ID to prove their identity (at a cost of about $1.50 per verification).

YIKES

Honestly though .... with the disinformation campaigns at State scale, the botnets, the AI content, and whatever comes next, how do we not have to have a verified human user internet in the next 20 years?

Thats a really good question. The only options I can think of is better captchas or to straight up consider any output from a machine as inadmissible/unverifiable

That is the among the last things on earth I would ever want jesus christ

Yeah I didn't ask how would you not want it -- I said how will the current functions of the internet operate without it given the new forces we already see ruining everything,

Just let it burn down at this point. Shorting this stock is going to be easy easy money

Remember kids, "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent".

I am not a broker, this is not financial advice, don’t sue me if this doesn’t work, etc

But basically, you're guaranteed to double your money. You literally can't lose.

Can you short an IPO?

If you’re a mere mortal you have to wait for your broker to have a sufficient number of shares available for shorting. If you’re a giant hedge fund or other financial entity with a blatant disregard for the rules, then sure. You just short the stocks naked and issue a failure to deliver if you can’t locate enough shares to cover.

Oof. I read a decent amount of comments, definitely getting shill/snitch/power seeking vibes, add to that the admins...what a shit show

WTF is this happy horseshit?

I'd like to see about implementing some sort of identity verification service for the sub.

Exactly my response too. Like this inexperienced mod takes the sub by playing nice with the admins and the first thing they want to implement is identity verification? Dafaq

Does he know he is a 'Reddit' mod?

Probs first time in his life he got some Power over something and instantly power trips.

It's real simple, see, just hold your passport up to your face..

And next, give me each of your fingers. We want to sure its really you! We can’t have you scamming for snacks now, can we?

Services like Stripe allow people in over 100 countries to match face to government-issued-ID to prove their identity (at a cost of about $1.50 per verification).

AHAHAHAHAHAHA Are you for real right now?

"Identity theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!"

Pretty much the same thing happened to /r/assholedesign. They made someone that's been inactive for two years the lead mod and they reopened the sub. There's like no chance ppl aren't getting paid to backstab the other mods.

never heard of this sub and it sounds kind of gross just from the name tbh.

i find it hilarious that the new mod wants to implement an elaborate ID system and ??Escrow??. wow. he^1^ sounds like he would like to implement the stories told by all the conspiracy people on the sub. maybe he plans to put this on his job application for the gates foundation lololol Sounds like a deeeeeelicious time.

GOOD LUCK FRIEND

1 - do not think it is too far out on a limb to assume male gender in this case.

It would be a shame if people posted about them on linkedin

I've deleted all my content I can across 3 accounts and a decade of posts and comments one thing though I have thousands of coins. I've never bought any before they are all rewards from posts. I kinda want to spend them on something.

I kinda want to spend them on something.

How about comments promoting the Fediverse?

I deleted my 11 year old account history yesterday. And will be deleting my account on Friday. I’m gonna delete my other accounts today, save for my porn account, which I’ll keep until they pull a tumblr. I don’t feel so bad about it since they don’t get any advertising dollars from those subs.

I'd suggest hanging on to those empty accounts for a while, just to be sure you've gotten everything. Even if your profile page looks blank, you may have comments older than the 1000 comment limit that still exist, as do any comments/posts made in subs that have gone private.

I went through and gilded a bunch of posts telling people how to move to tildes/fediverse/etc, or who pointed out major flaws in reddit's positions.

Oh, I also unsubbed from all the subreddits I was in, didn't want me included as part of an inflated subscriber count.

I didn't think of that! The inflated subscriber count!

Reddit seems so clunky compared to Lemmy now. I used the official ap anyway so the whole 3rd party thing didn't actually affect my direct experience. But obviously their actions affect us all.

Anyway, I like using lemmy straight on the mobile browser, just looks so much nicer among other things

I like the new mod's comment about how modding will be easy because of the bots. Lol

O.M.G.

SnackExchange is a pretty light-touch subreddit. "Problem people" are a rarity here; the anti-scammer bot does an incredibly good job of keeping would-be scammers out, and you'll find that cases of fraud/scam, while they do ever happen, are extremely rare. As such, I genuinely envision myself needing to do very little. I'm always nervous to use the "nah this community just runs itself!" phrasing, but.... it really does come pretty close.

I genuinely envision myself needing to do very little

Seems like a great choice for head mod.

I really hope they leave with their bots, just to spite him. Too bad they won’t though, some mods are fools who care far too much about communities that couldn’t care less about them.

I don't think they truly realize why "problem people" are so rare

I can't see any problems, therefore there must not be any problems!

Stupid bastard.

Let them fight, they might actually learn that being a (good) mod is not a cakewalk.