Trump calls Kamala Harris & Tim Walz ‘heavy into the transgender world’ at unhinged press conference

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Trump calls Kamala Harris & Tim Walz ‘heavy into the transgender world’ at unhinged press conference
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I watched some of this press conference. I didn’t see Trump as completely out of it. But he did seem tired. He said the same exact shit but with no energy or conviction.

Trump is committing the cardinal sin of television coverage. He’s boring.

Seems like the GOP is heavy into others' genitalia.

Especially childrens' genitals. They're obsessed with those.

GOP : Genitals Over People

or possibly

GOP: Genitals Of (the) Prepubescent

Sure, don. I can see it. It’s like they’re on some sort of trans mission. It’s automatic for them. But as soon as they’re in a clutch, their priorities will shift. they’ll change gears and reverse their position.

have some lemmy gold

Well, now I've gotta print one. 🤩✨

(What does the other side look like, though? Hmm.)

Well that's adorably horrific. 🤩

Yeah NovelAI's image generator is pretty crap compared to most modern gen, but I find the strangeness kind of endearing.

I have a feeling you'd like Scavengers Reign 🤘🏽

It's complex...

The original short 'Scavengers' caught my attention and was beautiful and had interesting flora and fauna design, and I mostly enjoyed it.

BUT

The steps taken during the short felt like a poorly contrived Rube Goldberg machine of individual segments of brilliant and interesting interactions that were kind of shoehorned into each other as more of a portfolio of the art style and a bunch of separate interesting vignettes than it did tell a narrative about an actual functional ecosystem.

The alien biological interactions were rooted more in the purpose of showing off art style, as species that relied on the interactions that the humans 'goaded' them through would have gone extinct long before human's arrival and I literally see no natural mechanism in universe that could replace 80% of it.

I know it's such a minor deal to most people but the fact that the ecosystem is so mechanically unbelievable makes it near impossible to fully like the short.

And I don't want to take the time risk to find out the same thing with the series. I really do appreciate the recommendation but I don't understand why my pique doesn't bother more people. Especially biologists...

I highly recommend the series, honestly, and the integral complexities you're concerned with certainly abound. Give it a shot, let it tell it's own story before you wish your own impressions overlaid on it. 🤫🤓

I wish I had an adult offspring of your preferred gender to offer you their hand in marriage you fucking poet.

Reminder that this guy wants to fuck his own daughter.

I knew people who didn't think that whole thing was fucked up. I asked them if they're just turned on by incest and they started yelling at me but didn't say no. I don't talk to them anymore lol

The High Priest cannot sin, it is directly a core part of their hierarchical mindsets.

And a good part of the reason why they are all so desperate to be at the top.

Not because I don't believe you, but because I actually do, but are there sources I can use? This is the first I've heard (read) this.

Reminder that this guy probably fucked a child with Epstein's help BECAUSE she looked like his daughter.

“Whether it’s 15 or 20, it’s numbers that nobody’s ever heard before"

I guess Donald just discovered two new numbers? Bringing his total known numbers to just below Kindergarten level.

The war against trans people is not a winning strategy.

Yeah don’t campaign for or against us. Neither works. Try campaigning for or against oil, more Americans have experienced a heat wave than one of us

maybe campaigning for trans people won't be a huge draw, because unlike transphobes most people don't even have trans on the mind... but i think walz's "mind your own damn business" does work. it's such a great line that works for trans rights as well as reproductive rights.

Oh absolutely, I think that’s really the sweet spot. When you say it’s about trans people a lot of people don’t care, but when you say it’s about your right to deal with your own healthcare without government interference people really like that

Seriously, I have only met like five trans people in my entire life. None of them have been a burden on me in any way. People should vote on issues that actually affect their own lives.

Yeah, like honestly the winning move is to mention us on the side at queer events. We’re common enough that losing or gaining us can be significant especially in a primary, but what we’re asking for isn’t huge and if isn’t something so important to the average voter.

My state didn’t have a winter last year and more and more rust keeps accumulating on our belt, maybe focus on talking about how you’re gonna bring Ohioans Union jobs and snow.

They have no platform and can no longer win without someone to demonize. I'm sorry that's you.

Same. I just don't get how even the most rabid redhat thinks that punching down on trans is going to help them to find healthcare, put food on the table, put their kids through school, etc...

They effectively lost the culture war on Teh Gheyz and have moved onto trans. It seems as if in most rural areas, that would basically be about bashing on either no one, maybe one specific person, or at most a handful of people. And the qons seem to be making this a central thing....well, that, and the migrant caravans. How the hell is this even remotely a serious policy?

Their only policy is that you should live in fear and only they can save you. Sometimes I long for the predictable fuckery of the 80s and 90s, when the Monopoly man hung out with the Jesus freaks, but even then they were demonizing LGBT people and claiming Democrats will ruin America, it's their only card.

Villifing the "other" is throwing red meat to the base. It's an easy sell to the ignorant. And also the very first target of the Nazis. Trans people are the lowest hanging fruit for the mental midgets that make up the maga base.

Democrats need to learn something though, because when trump is, finally, irrelevant there will be a vacuum. I don't think it's hard to make an appeal if you look at Bernie sanders crossover appeal and the mistakes of the Clinton's.

Clinton's are called "third way democrats" designed to win back some "Reagan democrats". Economic policies that are very similar to conservatives while relying on social justice issues for their legitimacy among the base fron the left. That left literally zero benefit and minimal consideration for working class and rural whites. It's also why I love the pick of Walz, he speaks to this voting bloc very effectively and the way Kamala is handling the campaign, specifically shutting down the "lock him up" chants makes me think that dems are on this wavelength also.

The case that needs to be made is something I've best heard described by MLK (I've also heard Bernie echo the same term) as "Economic Justice". Which is basically Marxist class theories and the money aspect of "all of God's children, being free at last." regardless of race. Being able to judo the "out of touch liberal elites" developed under the concept of Clinton democrats into "out of touch billionaire weirdos" of Trump, Vance and Musk is something the DNC should really focus on. Easier said than done though, those weirdos have infinite firehoses of infinite bullshit.

I want to see this thing taken to its logical extreme. Like that war was once on the entire queer community, now they're largely targeting trans people because the acceptance of gay men and lesbians is so widespread, pretty soon we're going to have sitting members of congress calling for the death penalty of People Who's Favorite Color Is Puce. We have to save the children from the evil Pucer agenda.

Yeah, the target just moves to whatever's the topic of the year. Interestingly enough, it's always Republicans doing the targeting.

Picking an arbitrary group to hate has strong short term returns but generally ends up in total disaster and collapse. You'd think history would make this clear.

But man are humans fixated on short term gains.

They're really banking on America really caring about if someone is gay or trans huh. Bold move. The only people who give a shit are the weirdo wannabe christians and fox "news" watchers. I'm more into having a good human in office rather than an old orange racist rapist with 34 felonies and dementia. The republikkklowns have nothing they can do besides attack their opponent and with Harris and Walz, that's a losing strategy. VOTE!!!! Volunteer to give rides to those that couldn't vote without it.

Yes, they're banking on roughly half of American voters. Terrifying, isn't it? E.g., "A majority of respondents to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll say gender is determined at birth and support restrictions on health care and sports participation."

That's not half of voters, that's half of people who respond to polls about gender opinions. Specific polls are twrrible ways to gauge general trends.

Trump seems confused again, must have missed nap time.

Why doesn't the press call him out on his drill and energy lies to his face? We are the world's biggest oil producer. Period. He isn't going to maximize anything.

Because those who would are not invited.

That's it. I wonder all the time how Trump doesn't get shows shoes thrown at him anywhere he goes. It's because he stays in safe spaces.

So you reminded me about an article that laid out the case for the writers strike in 2007/8 being the reason he was president (because of how it caused reality TV), and about how your comment a clever callback to when he had his own show...then I realized you meant shoes.

Even if it was true (it's not, the right wing seems heavily obsessed with lgbtiq people) why the f**k should we care? Lol

I have some trans and many gay friends. It doesn't even get mentioned. They're just people lol. I believe people living on the street or are terminally ill probably have bigger priorities than peoples sexual orientation and preferences

I'm fairly sure kids getting shot at school regularly might be a bit of a bigger issue to most

It's pretty telling that regressives think accusing someone of being humane to be some kind of mic drop moment...

Republicans need something to talk about.

Without a collective target to hate, they start hating each other.

Evil feeds upon itself, just look how hard they are transvestigating their own now.

I guess. I have plenty of single gay and trans friends if they're interested though (they seem to be, and that's ok because my mates are legends).. Strangely enough, they don't seem to discuss this stuff at all unlike the right wing.

I want to ask one of the dumbest redhats near me to try to explain, in full, just what the hell low-t means by this.

I was pretty confused by redhats at first. I was like "Hey man, I thought people liked Linux around here"

Even among linux enjoyers redhat has stigma now. Iirc they went closed source a bit ago

Allow me to role play a southern traitor-flag waving sisterfucker for a few moments:

Yew jes' don' get it. Thas why we'r gunna win in 2024 whoo! Drumpf rules!

He's jes' too real fer yew, he speaks what we'r all thinkin' and we ar so gosh darn' tir'd of yew high falutin' city edumacated tranny chil' traffikr's tellin' us to make cakes for y'all and forcin' us all decent folk to be aware of yer very existunc in public like it's normal!! Trannies belon' hidden in our incawgneato mode private browsin' sessions, nawy livin' normal like regyewlar peopal!

Now Ah am DEATHLY afraid of nawt appearin' 'normal', so much that Ah will accep' blindly any demon demuhnstration (haha Satan almost caught me there an made me type 'demon'! Nawt Today Satan!) that some there authority figure performs, without, an Ah stress this as importan', evahluating thee moral value or danger that authority man's (because, nawt like they'd be a WOMAN right!? Haw! Puncin' down is thee most powherful punchin'!) achtions acthchually involve.

So wen mah leedurship picks a target, I durn better make noise loud and clear that I Hatemucate That Target Too Gosh Darn It! I hate it even more than you and that makes me righter and better! I hatemajigger them/it/us twice as loud cause I don' want my righteous brothers findin' out my daughter was born a son and is staying a daughter no matter how many times I beat or humiliate 'em.

Ah don' know the first thing about bayologee or chemistree or fisicks, but Ah DO know that some goatherder 3000 years ago thought gay people icky ahn I don' want Mah communitee thinkin' mah family icky so I'm gonna ignore 80 years of science an' just keep beatin 'em till they're norhmul again.

Man, what would ah do if they tought mah family icky? They'd cast us out! Then what wuld we do? Go to the dirty commie tranny bleedy edumacated people? Heck no, those babykiller/eaters/diddlers would reject US Jus' Leik' We Been Rejectin' Them for all mah laife.

Oh what wer we talkin' about? Yeah Trannies wanna indoctruhnate yer chillren to be enviruhnmentally cohnscious an' respectin' worl' cultchure an' treatin' brown peopul laik nohrmul peopul. We can't be havin' that so that's why Drumpf is right!

I'm also heavy into the transgender world. So is Trump actually. It's this world. I usually just call it "the world" though.

"... at unhinged press conference"

Yea, I know how this works, don't condescend to me.

The same Trump that groped and motorboated Rudy Giuliani dressed in drag?

What a weird thing for him to say.

What do they think this is, Theater in the 1600s?

Context: for a long time theater was not considered something that women were allowed to do. It was considered a disreputable job. It also tended to attract what we would now consider to be LGBTQ individuals. That part hasn't changed actually all that much as I understand it. But they had up having men play female characters. Which seems weird to me, but then again I'm a product of this century. Well and the last one. Also as a kid I remember seeing a woman playing Peter Pan in theater which is actually fairly common because they have the correct look & sound for playing a "boy who never grew up."

Sure they might have threads accounts but I haven’t seen either of them directly involved with the rest of the fediverse. So I’d hardly say ‘heavy into’

Soros wokie muppets..

I... what? Is it a joke post or do you think that saying that nonsense is a genuine attempt at, well, conveying what you think?

Not a joke post. He uses wokie as an insult a lot. Soros is often brought up. And he always parrots Russian propaganda. Just a regular old bigoted putin lackey, being his usual self.

Are these words linked to each other in some way or are you just free associating?