Ron DeSantis bans Florida's sex ed classes from mentioning anatomy & contraceptives

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All districts are now required to promote abstinence, exclude consent, and remove any pictures of reproductive organs.

The Florida Department of Education (FLDOE) has ordered local school districts to submit their sex education plans to the state for approval. The FLDOE has also said the classes must promote abstinence and cannot include discussion of contraception or pictures of reproductive health organs.

The sex-ed takeover removes local discretion when it comes to district sex education classes and materials.

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Scared of the vagina. And women in general. Who are these weak men? They shouldn't have power anywhere.

I'm not sure they're scared, I think it's more about control and to make sure kids don't understand what's happening to them if they're subjected to abuse or when they reach puberty. It's all about power and control over the body of other people.

They are scared of losing power. Shitty rulers always are, because they know how bad they are, or at least they assume others would treat them just as badly if given the chance, which is almost synonymous.

And more teen pregnancies so there's more right coloured children and more women staying out of school.

These men need to be schooled by Nick Offerman.

If theres no sex and no ed how is it sex ed?

It isn’t. Florida needs pregnant teenagers who can’t get abortions so that they can use their children to sit on the coastline and pedal the land up out of the water. This is also where they will get their electricity. It also needs a constant supply of these children because they’ll have to replace them after every hurricane.

Everything I just typed is probably more likely to work than abstinence based sex ed is to prevent pregnancy and is just as scientifically valid as a sex ed class with no sex and no ed.

Nice, Five Million Merits mixed with dystopia environmentalist catastrophe, I love it

You talking about the Black Mirror episode?

I watched it a decade ago or something (can’t remember it), need to see it again. It’s 15 million merits though.

Thanks for the correction! Been about the same amount of time for me lol

Oh I wouldn’t have even remembered anything about the title without googling what you said so you’re doing better than me. :p

My guess would be sone form of gender astrology: Men bigger, have more angry, women smaller, have more talk.

these guys think about sex and children too much to not be pedophiles.

and this is the number one legislation you'd want to pass if you wanted to make it easier to engage in pedophilia.

These words include abuse, consent, domestic violence, fluids, gender identity and LGBTQ information, she said.

Bro what. Ok ok I understand, no matter how much I disagree with it, why they think pictures of stuff are icky but c’mon, people.

It's beyond apparent they want women locked into abusive marriages again. If they could get away with it they'd be rolling back their abilities to use banks, get a driver's license, or even work without the consent of their husband.

They're working on no fault divorce repeal.

A few maggot congresspersons have floated the idea

Hey, Maggots don't deserve that comparison. They're actually useful to an ecosystem. ;)

I remember sex ed class having textbooks with drawings, not photographs. It wasn't icky. The topic was awkward AF, of course... Well, I dunno what textbooks are like these days tho.

Ah yes, more "protecting the children"* to pander to an angry and stupid electorate.

* "Protecting the children" is a phrase used here to mean, "ensuring the next generation of an angry and stupid electorate."

To pander to the segment of the electorate DeSantis thinks is going to reelect him.

He needs to get the state legislature to revoke their term limits before he can be reelected.

This is how you get teens pregnant. And/or full of STDs.

When Fidesz banned sex ed here in Hungary on the basis of "child protection", we got an immediate rise in child pregnancies.

And children and teens groomed and assaulted.

With all the hysteria around a White Lady Pregnancy Gap, this may be a feature rather than a bug.

If the revolution needs a baby sitter, then the revolution will probably just stay home instead.

Sick improvish children are easy to control.

Florida biology classes mostly center around the four humors.

You joke, but it does feel as though dismantling public education is just a knock-on effect of all these gag orders.

If you want your kids to get a serious sex-ed or biology background, you're obligated to send them to private schools.

That's their plan. Educated citizens vote less often for restrictive, backwards Republican culture warrior control freaks.

The plan is a Christian Caliphate. These people are terminally lazy, so it's less work to be a radical sect than it is to learn how to build a bridge, or a healthy family.

Don't necessarily need to go as far as full private education. Unitarian Universalists have put together workshops for sexual education.

https://www.uua.org/re/owl

I'm not a member of UU, but I have friends who are and the curriculum seems legit.

I was raised UU! It's a great sex ed and relationship health program that addresses all aspects of relationships, sex-related or not. I highly recommend checking out your local Unitarian Universalist church/congregation if you have one nearby. They're pretty cool folks.

So not sex ed.

Ed won’t even know where to start with his wiener. You ever read that story about the lady who never got pregnant because her husband had been inserting himself into her urethra opening?

No, and that sounds impossible. Like, I can’t imagine how that could happen even once. Do you have a source? I can’t find anything.

I’ll dig for it. Might have been bullshit but I definitely read it.

Who knows? Maybe I’ll end up being the face of bad women’s anatomy on Lemmy. :p

I’ll find it.

I've read that story, too. Still might be bullshit, but who would tell false story about sex on the Internet?

Edit: found it, or at least an example

Thank you for your willingness to look into it and your potential acknowledgement that the story may have been bullshit. I appreciate that.

I’m pretty sure this can’t have happened, because the urethra is quite narrow and the opening so small, it’s a massive issue to get used to catheters with a tiny diameter. From what I hear, it takes a lot of physical and mental fortitude to be able to insert a catheter into that hole, needing good aim and perseverance, and a lot of design goes into making the cath process less traumatic.

Caths are quite small. Unless a dick was literally a millimetre in diameter, I can’t imagine how that could happen, especially since the vagina is right next to that opening. If you even tried, it would just slip a quarter of an inch towards the opening that would easily accommodate it. It just seems physically impossible.

e: turns out this did happen, in a case where the woman’s hymen never broke (it had to be surgically opened), and the man was under-endowed. It was a rare and unusual combination of anatomy. I stand corrected and retract my previous edit.

The female partner had cribriform hymen and dilated urethral orifice but did not report any problems except infertility and her genital anatomy was normal. The male partner reported concerns over his penile size but was otherwise healthy. After incision of hymen, they were able to have vaginal coitus and successfully conceived. While urethral coitus is rare, it should be suspected in women presenting with infertility and a dilated urethral orifice.

Just a slightly abnormal physiology, which would be spotted and understood better with better anatomy education.

Not going to link it, but in the video I saw, there were two distinct holes behind the hole he was using. So, either he was using a urethra, or she had a second vagina.

I’d really love to see that video. I can’t find anything like that. I found one article claiming a couple was using the wrong hole, but it was the anus, not the urethra. There are two holes behind that, if you’re facing a certain way. The urethral opening is so tiny that ‘micropenis’ would have to be a vast overstatement.

When your thirty year plan as a governor is just to keep the Florida man meme alive forever.

Ok, the title comes from the linked article, but they aren't banned from "mentioning anatomy". They are banned from showing pictures of reproductive organs.

I don't know why some people seem compelled to take a story that's plenty horrible as it stands and give it a deceptive headline... seems like I'm seeing more of that recently. Are we really in a post-truth era?

I'd guess it was an attempt to keep the title succinct, then not proofing it properly. In any case, always read the article before commenting as titles are frequently misleading (intentional or not).

It’s even more unnecessary because the content is already plenty concerning in my opinion. I don’t see a need to embellish.

Without seeing the document you're not going to see the whole picture. This is a summary of that document that has some inconsistent wording, but until the article and the document are compared you can't even say what the truth is.

That's a fine rationale for omissions but the headline is directly misstating the guidance on anatomy. It's unnecessary for the article to call it out in the headline.

My point is it's misstated based on the Orlando Sentinel article linked, but the document isn't linked so we don't actually know what the source of truth actually says.

So when you don’t know what it is, you make it up? This is shit journalism. Period.

Ok, the title comes from the linked article, but they aren't banned from "mentioning anatomy". They are banned from showing pictures of reproductive organs.

How is that any better? Next your going to rationalize having no books in a literature class, showing no pictures of cells in a biology class, or having a trigonometry class without using the devil's radians.

I don't know why some people seem compelled to ignore all context and rationalize state sponored religious persecution in the name of "protecting the children". It's not post-truth just because you've decided to willfully ignore all the context.

Exactly. Because it's not any better ("plenty horrible as it stands" as I put it in my original comment), the deceptive headline is not only unnecessary, but also taints the entire story with falsehood when it should not be so degraded.

Mentioning anatomy isn't substantially different than photos of anatomy in a classroom setting unless you're a troll looking for a knit to pick.

We live in an age where people are obsessively needy about being outraged to the point where they need to make shit up topics one another off.

Lemmy is probably the best example of this behavior.

So are they just going to pray in class now? Practice their purity vows? Maybe we can have the creepy dad wedding right there in school.

States rights is just a cover for them, so fuck it let's do some pre-empting from the federal level. Either that or use the Dept. of Education to put up billboards around Florida's interstates. Give them Sex Ed one way or the other since they don't want to have consent as a thing either.

Well lookie here. It's Big-Government DeSantis creating the Junior Anti-Sex League.

The Junior Anti-Sex League represents the Party's efforts to control the most intimate aspects of individuals' lives in "1984".

Unlike Winston, [Julia] had grasped the inner meaning of the Party’s sexual puritanism. It was not merely that the sex instinct created a world of its own which was outside the Party’s control and which therefore had to be destroyed if possible. What was more important was that sexual privation induced hysteria, which was desirable because it could be transformed into war-fever and leader-worship.

Won't anybody think of the children!?

The age old adage of the oppressor

Many, many doctors and health professionals are saying Florida Gov. Ron Desantis has a truncated and bifurcated chungus, and this has led to his fear of high school anatomy class.

The secret noo noo goes into the other secret place and that is how you go to jail. End 2024 lesson.

Has the tourism industry in Florida taking a hit yet?

I've been there probably five times in my life, the last time being right before this dumbass was elected; remember back when they were sandbagging all the black voters, booting hundreds of thousands of people from the voter rolls right before election day? Feels like it was thirty years ago.

Edit: forgot to say, have passed on two or three more opportunities to go there and no plans to go back. I'm glad I got to see it before it becomes covered in dead seaweed piled 10 meters deep but if there's one thing I don't like to be surrounded by more than seaweed it's uneducated dumbasses.

Is that not his plan? His feelings towards Disney make me think he'd tank tourism and his state economy if it hit Disney harder.

Not that this is how it should work at all, but wouldn't an easy work around for this be to simply teach this as part of human anatomy In science class rather than sex education in health class or physical education? Or does it ban these things in all its forms throughout school? Maybe they can use photos of animal sex organs 😂

We avoid health learning like the plague in the US. You have to opt into it in college. It should be a running subject just like STEM and along with the lack of financial classes, and the death of Home Ec, shows just how much school is meant to churn out workers instead of adults.

Science doesn't teach much human anatomy beyond the existence and general purposes of brain, lungs, heart, intestines....

Then they can add a couple more parts can’t they

Considering that many young women don't even realize that they don't pee out of their vagina? I think we should be putting a lot more into human anatomy in schools.

I'm not American. Do they really not have biology as a school subject?

We do but it's about more plants and animals than humans.

My school had decent sex ed though (New Jersey)

They just don’t want this subject taught – it’s not about which class it’s in. If a school tries to put it in biology class instead, they’ll explicitly ban it in that class, too.

Many people enjoy inserting and removing a their gun from a holster, however, it's important to remember that discharging your gun in the holster can have dire, life altering consequences.

"Class, today I direct you to talk about sex and then step out in the hall. If I am not present, I can't get in trouble if you learn things certain governors don't want you to learn about."

Ron desantis is pretty cool. /s

Dude just wants to bring up everyone's GPA! No complicated options on how to avoid having a baby too early or stds in the real world. /s I hate deathantis