White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
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cross-posted from: https://mbin.grits.dev/m/mews/t/22301
White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
cross-posted from: https://mbin.grits.dev/m/mews/t/22301
White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes
Nobody cares until someone rich is impacted. Revenge porn has been circulating on platforms uninhibited for many years, but the second it happens to a major celebrity suddenly there's a rush to do something about it.
What?
This isn't revenge porn, it's fakes of celebrities.
Something that was done for decades, and one of the biggest parts of early reddit. So it's not "the second" either.
The only thing that's changed is people are generating it with AI.
The ones made without AI (that have been made for decades) are a lot more realistic and a lot more explicit. It just takes skill and time, which is why people were only doing it for celebrities.
The danger of AI is any random person could take some pictures off social media and make explicit images. The technology isn't there yet, but it won't take much longer
I think it's more about the abject danger that unregulated AI replication of noteworthy figures represents to basically everything
Also, revenge porn is illegal in I think every state but South Carolina and even then it might have been banned since I saw that stat
While I agree with the sentiment that rich people's issues have more influence.
https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/revenge-porn-laws-by-state.html
You think it wasn't celebrities first? The issue here is specifically Taylor Swift.
Bruh this been happening to celebrities for decades.
What a braindead take. Both the US and many other intl countries have enacted AI safety and regulation rules, this is an extension of that effort. The idea is to set a precedent for this kind of behavior. They are also looking into how AI is being used for election interference like having AI Biden tell people not to vote.
Everybody cares, just because it’s not all in place day 0 doesn’t mean nobody does
-The Whitehouse, probably.
Honestly, I kind of don't even care. If that's what it takes to get people to realize that it's a serious problem, cool. I mean, it's aggravating, but at least now something might actually happen that helps protect people who aren't megastars.
You must be new to capitalism, lol
Blah blah blah so tiring to hear this thoughtless perspective constantly pushed in the fediverse.
I'm just saying, nothing about this should lead anyone to the conclusion that anyone in power is suddenly going to start caring about poor people. They're literally only talking about this because a billionaire got its feelings hurt.
Fair enough, and at the end of the day I probably hate billionaires as much as you do.
If you don't like discourse that is different from your beliefs then plug your ears and shout lalala as you have been doing so for decades.
Someone complaining about the same thoughtless perspective is not complaining about discourse.
Just once I’d love to have actual discourse about capitalism. I’ve never met a person who expressed hatred of capitalism who seemed capable of of discourse unfortunately.
You have to actually listen and allow yourself to think twice about capitalism.
The only thing that could possibly happen to protect people from this is to make AI illegal. That would be (a) impossible to enforce without draconian decrease in individual freedom, like keeping people stuffed in crates of packing foam instead of free to move around, and (b) absolutely horrible if it were successfully enforced.
AI is cheaper and easier to proliferate than any drug. We have not succeeded in controlling drugs, despite their physical requirements of mass and volume making them visible in reality, a feature AI does not share.
The attempt to control AI can and will destroy all our freedoms if we let it. Again, the only way to control something so ephemeral as computation is to massively restrict all freedom.
White House used Panic!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
It absolutely was a problem before and it’s not because Taylor is white. Revenge porn laws aren’t new and AI legislation has been in the works before this popped off.
You also gonna say nobody cared about election interference until an AI recording of Biden told people not to vote?
Just because you weren’t aware doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening
Do you want more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift? Because that's how you get more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift.
Only AI fakes of billionaires. They're just admitting that there's a two tiered legal system, and if you're below a certain "value," you will not be protected.I fat fingered and replied to the wrong comment.
Just like in the AI nudes.
They're not so much "fat fingered" as they are "all the fingers"
This will be interesting.
How to write legislation to stop AI nudes but not photo shopping or art? I am not at all sure it can be done. And even if it can, will it withstand a courtroom free speech test?
I think it's not feasible to stop or control it, for several reasons -
We joke about rule 34 right, if you can think of it there is porn of it. It's now pretty straightforward to fulfil the second part of that, irrespective as to the thing you thought of. Those pics of your granddsd in his 20s in a navy uniform? Your high school yearbook picture? Six shots of your younger sister shared by an aunt on Facebook? Those are just as consumable by ai as tay tay is.
You write legislation that bans all three because there is no difference between generating, photoshopping or drawing lewds of someone without their consent.
Banning this on an individual level would be impossible, so you let the platforms that host it get sued.
We have the technology to detect if an image is NSFW and if it includes a celebrity. Twitter is letting this happen on purpose.
It's hard to pretend it wasn't reported by Taylors fans many time during this time and the moderators didn't know about this image half an hour after it was posted.
If the image is even slightly convincing, it's essentially just defamation with digital impersonation thrown in. Yeah, that might catch photoshop in its net, but you'd need to be a DAMN good artist to get caught in it as well.
So what level is slightly convincing?
What about people that happen to look like someone famous?
What level of accuracy is necessary?
If I label some random blonde ai generated porn “Taylor Slow”, does that count?
They are both blonde after all.
Surely this should be a priority.
Well, it's not really just about Swift. There are probably many other people that are going through this. Not every person who generates nudes of someone else is going to make it to the news, after all.
I could see this being a problem in highschools as really mean pranks. That is not good. There are a million other ways I could see fake nudes being used against someone.
If someone spread pictures of me naked: 1. I would be flattered and 2. Really ask why someone wants to see me naked in the first place.
If anything, just an extension of any slander(?) laws would work. It's going to be extremely hard to enforce any law though, so there is that.
However, how long have revenge porn laws been a thing? Were they ever really a thing?
i remember a headline from a few weeks back, this is already happening in schools. its really not about swift
Ya, it fucking should be
https://www.wired.com/story/biden-robocall-deepfake-danger/
Wait.. They want to stop only Taylor Swift AI fakes? Not every AI fake representing a real person???
Only AI fakes of billionaires. They're just admitting that there's a two tiered legal system, and if you're below a certain "value," you will not be protected.
If the value level is Taylor Swift we're all doomed
That's not true, every American has the opportunities they need to become Taylor Swift. They just need to work harder ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah.. They just need to stop being that poor
Y'all need to read the article and stop rage baiting. It's literally a click away.
"Legislation needs to be passed to protect people from fake sexual images generated by AI, the White House said this afternoon."
Quick! Stock up on Katy Perry fakes before those get banned aswell
This is what the white house is concerned about........ Fuck them. Like there is so much worse going on in America but oh no one person has ai fake porn images heaven forbid!
The White House is capable of having a position on more than one issue at a time. There also doesn't seem to be a particular bill they are touting, so this seems to be more of a "This is messed up. Congress should do something about it" situation than "We're dropping everything to deal with this" one.
Doubt.
Nice job reading the article, any one of these articles, to actually get context and not just react to headlines.
People are asking about Swift. The government isn't buddying up to her specifically. Swift is only the most famous face of this issue with very focused growth on this.
U.S. government be like:
Thousands of deep fakes of poor people: I sleep.
Some deep fakes of some privileged Hollywood elite: R E A L S H I T.
But actually not
AI legislation has been in the works both in the US and intl long before this Taylor shit, this is just an extension of those efforts.
It’s not about rich white people, it’s about serious potential to harm.
Potential harm like election interference: https://www.wired.com/story/biden-robocall-deepfake-danger/
Taylor is just trying to distract us from her jet emissions again, just like her new PR relationship with that Kelce guy was almost certainly to distract us from her dating that Matty Healy dude that openly said he enjoys porn that brutalizes black women (and also from her jet emissions).
She's not stupid. She's a billionaire very aware of how news cycles work.
Oh look, we've got this generations moral panic figured.
Is the law going to explicitly protect her and no one else?
Click on the link, read the article, answer your own question
NEVAR!
It’s called setting a precedent bud.
Notice how there wasn't any of this kind of effort to stop AI when pedos were making CP with it? Or when indie artists were being plagiarized by it?
Dear world, please stop making fakes kthx.
We need to change society so people don't want to make celebrity deep fakes.
What do you propose? Keep in mind, we can't even change society so people don't constantly try to kill each other over nothing.
That’s not just society. If you look at nature you’ll notice every organism has weapons. Evolution doesn’t brook wasted energy, and yet every organism spends a big portion of its energy budget building weapons. Think about that.
That's not true. Most organisms spend a big portion of their energy on moving, eating, or just existing. Humans are one of the few organisms capable of creating a weapons.
There's a huge difference between protecting yourself from harm and creating weapons powerful enough to destroy all life on the planet. We're in the second group, no other species even comes close. And all that being said, the drive to procreate is even stronger than the drive to kill your neighbor, so good luck conditioning that out of society.
I'm open to proposals on how to make people willingly not want to do these kinds of things of their own volition.
make ais publicly owned and have ai prompts be a matter of public record
impossible to enforce and that's if all ai was open. secondly, corporations and companies will never be willing to give out their million dollar AI's for free to the public.
What you really mean there is eliminate all privately-owned AI. Sort of like eliminating all the privately owned drugs, except instead of physical objects you’re targeting software.
So, what do you suppose the budget would be of the office whose task it is to eliminate privately-held AI?
ten really cool swords
So like bladrunner samurai that cut up your hard drives?
Yes that’s the ticket. If our laws are unenforceable, simply mold humanity until they aren’t.
Nah we just need to punish the offenders. Send these kids to juvie for 12 mos for first offense and give it a sexual assault tag.
So at what level of artistic talent does it become 12 months in jail and sex offender list?
U must be dense. I'm saying if ur a kid in hs who releases ai porn of a classmate that should be the punishment.
So how good does the ai need to be?
You are going to need these definitions to jail people.
Does a stick figure with their name over it count as long as it was made with ai?
theres nothing illegal about ai models
Where did I say models? Learn to read.
Naw
Guys? I'm gonna go ahead and say this: You get one warning: Do not post porn here, especially links to non-consensual AI-generated porn of real people. That's gross, it's inappropriate for the community, it's almost certainly against Lemmy.world's TOS, and anyone who posts it after this warning gets a perma-ban.
Seriously. Ew.
Yes, the human body is gross, sex is unnatural and we should all be ashamed.Especially if it's all fake pixels. The only "ew" here is you.
Dude, non-consensual porn posted in an inappropriate community is the problem here, not sex or the human body.
People need to understand that AI have to be strongly regulated. Every new piece of tech need a regulation or fit in a existing regulation.
What we see for decades in form of reacting afterwards isn't working at all. It's medication which doesn't really work. We should prevent these.
If reacting afterwards isn’t working, reacting beforehand definitely isn’t going to work.
Man, I hope this doesn't distract Biden from his important work pretending to dislike the genocide in Palestine that he is materially supporting!
White House? More like a crack house
devastating