Wells Fargo District Manager arrested for Target shoplifting spree across at least three cities

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She apparently couldn't be satisfied by legally stealing from people in her day job.

Clinical strength kleptomania really is the only thing that explains Wells Fargo. 

It's honestly probably kleptomania. It's a serious problem for a lot of people, and there's no way this woman needs to shoplift, she could probably afford everything she steals.

I liked to steal stuff when I was a kid, but when I did, I always felt extremely guilty and gave the stuff back.

What I did was develop a career in IT Security over the last two decades. I can "steal stuff" and get paid to do it. Kind of. (It's not malicious nor is it glamorous.)

When I was a teen, it was the challenge/thrill. Not saying I stole but saying if I had... This would have been why.

I did it to just see if I could. It was 30 years ago. But we stole t shirts or magazines. Nothing horribly expensive. It was "can we get away with this?"

I actually kinda feel bad for this lady. I mean, i know--she works for WF, they're an evil company--so some sort of cosmic justice may apply... but i just can't help but wonder what life must be like when you legit have that kind of disorder. There's no plausible reason for the behavior--even she herself apparently recognizes that. From the article: "When asked why she repeatedly shoplifts when she has a good job, Weiss reportedly said she just didn’t have an answer."

Maybe when your job is to sit in a glass office overseeing a couple dozen cubicle workers and your day consists of using various Microsoft Office products, useless meetings, and answering phone calls, this is the only excitement she's able to get.

Humans weren't meant to be office workers. It's not surprising that some people mentally break, when you look around and most people's body's are broken down.

Didn't she get to steal enough from customers at work? Dude, leave the office in the office.

I'm surprised that more people don't know not to FAFO involving Target. When a company has a lab that's sophisticated enough where LEOs ask for assistance on unrelated investigations, that's never a good sign.

lol... law enforcement does not get help from target, ffs

https://corporate.target.com/news-features/article/2012/02/an-unexpected-career-target-forensic-services-labo

Unbeknownst to most, Target has a top-rated forensic services laboratory that provides forensic examinations, and assists outside law enforcement with help on special cases.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/04/csi-walmart/521565/

Target and Walmart both declined to comment for this story, but in a press release from 2012, Target said it volunteers to get involved with with “felony, homicide, and special-circumstances cases.” In 2008, a Target spokesperson told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that a quarter of the cases it worked on were unrelated to the company itself.

so they look at surveillance video for murderers... they're not solving outside crimes

Inside, they comb through video-surveillance records and spirit data out of devices that have seen better days        

its a "digital forensics" lab... they're investigating embezzlement... hackers...
the whole "target is the panopticon" thing is a clever viral marketing ploy to reduce shoplifting...

that and the thing where they supposedly keep tabs on you for years until you hit a felony total of shoplifting, THEN they bust you and you have to pay $5,000,000,000...
that's not even how laws work...

6 more...
6 more...
6 more...

$160... So like a pant and some beach towels?

She stole $1281 of stuff over multiple shopping trips.

Target can ID faces and track thefts across multiple store trips.

I've heard that target waits until you hit some amount that makes it a felony then busts you hard

Which basically means you can steal from target, but only once.

Yeah, there is usually a dollar amount that you need to hit in order for charges to actually be meaningful in a number of states. For example, in CA you need to steal over $950 for a judge to have the option to make it a felony. If it’s under $950 it’s a slap on the wrist.

In each instance, Weiss allegedly fills a shopping cart with hundreds of dollars in merchandise, then scans and pays for a few items to generate a receipt she can show to a store associate as she walks out.

Something similar happened in Albuquerque recently with a doctor/medical executive. She has a salary of almost $300k a year. It’s unclear what makes people do this - entitlement? Greed? For thrills? I can say though from experience running a small independent retail art supply store, the people who stole from us the most were well-off women who were otherwise good customers. It seemed like they thought they were entitled to a “special discount”, like they resented that we consistently made money from them and didn’t offer special deals.

Isn't kleptomania a real disorder?

Does it matter? I thought the standard is "knowing right from wrong" in terms of mental illness defense.

It can. We has a local here who had some kind of compulsion to throw rocks (big ones) off of overpasses at cars.

He knew it was wrong, and the guilt evidently fucked with him a lot, but he also couldn't stop himself. Eventually he had to turn himself in and hope the state didn't execute him or something.

I think?

But I was simply providing one possible answer for the person above wondering, "what makes people do this?"

it definitely still matters...

I suppose it could be some compulsive thing, but I doubt that everyone stealing like that has a bonafide mental disorder.

When asked why she repeatedly shoplifts when she has a good job, Weiss reportedly said she just didn’t have an answer.

Well she won't have a good job anymore. Loooooooooool.

This is Wells Fargo we're talking about, she's getting a promotion and allowances to work from home jail :/

You kidding? This is exactly the kind of go-getter that meshes with Wells Fargo's principles.

Yeah but she can hit the ground running in her next role!

Do what you love for a living and you'll never work a day in your life. 🌈

Woman who loves to steal:

and you’ll never work a day in your life.

Well, she's probably unemployed now, so that tracks.

It took me a good while, but I FINALLY figured out who this woman looks like.

It's absolutely Martha Kelly.

She played the drug dealer boss in Euphoria.

She also played Martha in Baskets, and I also thought that was her at first glance.

Kind of reminds me a bit of Marie from Breaking Bad lol. The kleptomania fits, too.

I know that look because I’ve had it myself: my guess is she shoplifts as a compulsion.

Is it just me or is she unsettling looking?

It's the bright red lipstick on thin, downturns lips. Also the "oh shit" look in her eyes as she realizes she's completely fucked up her life. No bank will ever hire her again.

She looks like someone trying extremely hard to keep it together. This is unsettling to see because it reminds us how complex and delicate a set of circumstances it takes to keep a person sane.

Why is it remotely relevant that she worked for wells fargo?

In addition to the other answers, theft is a particularly bad look if you work at any bank, the place people trust to hold their money safely.

My money is FDIC insured, she can steal a little from the bank as a treat.

She committed the cardinal sin: stealing from the establishment. Steal from the working class with predatory financial practices and fees for being poor and they are fine with it; the powers that be have been trying to steal the working and middle class out of existence for years. But she stole from other companies, stupid lady. After a few handfuls of stores they won't stand for it.

For a moment I thought it was this one: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/moms-for-liberty-arrest-shoplifting-target-b2477747.html because both did it at Target and exactly in the same way and continued after being caught several times.

But kleptomania is more common than I thought:

The prevalence of kleptomania in the U.S. general population is unknown but has been estimated at 6 per 1000 people, which translates into about 1.2 million of the 200 million American adults.

Kleptomania is thought to account for 5% of shoplifting. Based on total shoplifting costs of $10 billion in 2002, this 5% translates into a $500 million annual loss to the economy attributable to kleptomania.

This loss does not include the costs associated with stealing from friends and acquaintances or costs incurred by the legal system. Besides its grave toll on individuals and families, kleptomanic behavior carries serious legal consequences: approximately 2 million Americans are charged with shoplifting annually. If kleptomania accounts for 5% of these, this translates into 100,000 arrests.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC535651/

That looks... It reads like... "Quick... What can I say to get out of this?!"