That Hitchcock meme is great! But for anyone else who wanted it to be real - it was originally a cure for insomnia, not fascism.
Thank you, I was wondering
Plus Hitchcock was an abusive fuck, especially towards women, and he had a movie that was considered positive about the Nazis by some, but later shot a documentary about the Holocaust that wasn't released until 2014, and two anti-Nazi propaganda films that weren't released until 1994.
Really works for both.
It's a cure for many things some might consider... unnatural.
Oh I love the last line. "An idiot could operate it, and indeed many do."
Bloodlust seeks any acceptable target. Be suspicious of your own instinct for violence. Fascists also think their violence is righteous.
When someone fucks you over in a $500 drug deal, that's the monetary cutoff point where violence is straight up recommended as far as I am concerned.
A. What does that have to do with fascism?
B. Alfred Hitchcock did not say this
A. There is a point where violence is justified.
B. Taking an image out of context and adding your take on it is called a meme.
A. This is your violent fantasy
B. This is your violent fantasy
Violence is not a fantasy.
Hate cannot be tolerated.
There's a broad range of responses between murder and tolerance. Your bloodlust makes you the same as the people you're so horny to mutilate.
Oh, weird, I initially read the comment you're replying to as agreeing with your position. Like: 'we can't allow our side to hate, or casually joke about killing, those who disagree politically with us'
But after reading your reply I can see it being meant either of two opposite ways.
You're right. We should be tolerant of hateful, sadistic, bigoted, violent pricks and never stand up for what is right.
What do you mean "nope"? I'm pretty sure bullets stopped the fascists in WW2. Is this a point of contention with you?
Alfred Hitchcock did not say this.
And OP is just fantasizing about fascism as an excuse to fantasize about violence. Tough Mother fucker on the internet.
Stephen Crowder didn't say all those things that memers on the Internet wrote on his sign either
Who says we are fantasizing?
Stephen Crowder can get fucked
Your violent fantasies can also get fucked
I think some people are just looking for an excuse to do things they've been craving for a long time.
Let us not dehumanize the people we disagree with and call for violence. Because at that point we are no different than they are.
Bullshit. Fascism sees violence not as a means to an end, but a goal unto itself. It will be violent regardless. In contrast, even the most bloodthirsty anti-fascist sees violence as a means to an end; something to be left behind as soon as its purpose is complete.
If you want to stop it without violence, it has to be now. Once rooted in, a violent response is the only one that will work. Pretending otherwise will only enable them.
Agreed. Violence is precisely the problem.
Agreed.
Fantasies?
My great grandfather used to drop 500lb bombs on them. It was super effective.
Your great grandfather sounds incredibly based!
Mine had the dubious honors of smuggling booze as an early teen, and allegedly helped popularize deposit fees because he would rent all the major party halls in his city, and then cancel all but one, ensuring he ran the only big party in town on a given weekend.
That sounds like the sort of thing my paternal grandad would do.
But what a party!
Mine was a pacifist, but spoke German, so they had him guard the POWs and report on what they said.
My grandfather helped your grandfather by going up in untested fighter planes with the pilots and checking to make sure none of the bolts were loose.
He was also an air raid warden in London, meaning he was out on the streets getting people to safety while the bombs were dropping.
I wish I had an ounce of that man's courage... although, being both Jewish and German, he knew exactly what had to be stopped.
Seems like Boeing could really use your grandfather right now.
I wouldn't want him up there in one of them.
If your great grandfather is a Soldier type he will deal an additional STAB damage as well.
He started off as Infantry sent to Gallipoli, then joined the Australian Flying corps and flew over Ypre and the Somme. After the end of WW1 he joined the RAF and flew medium bombers over Europe during WW2.
I just remember him as a kind old man that loved me.
He did that to protect the one he loved! Fuck the facist that throw the world into chaos back then.
At least the originals could honestly say that they didn't know how far it would be taken. Modern Nazis know exactly where this shit goes.
If it was a physical attack, he could've screeched at them in advance to really lower their defence too!
I think your great grandfather might have killed mine. I’m totally OK with this.
Conservative followers don't realize they are becoming fascists. It's sad to watch and no conversation helps them.
"WilL tHErE bE An invEsTIGatIon fOr the MuRdER of UnArMeD VeTeRaN AshlII BaBBoT?"
Clearly there are still a lot of the fuckers ready to fuck around and find out.
Unfortunately. She literally rammed her car into another car allegedly just because they made her mad. She had serious mental health issues, and it's horrible that she died, but the same people don't care when it isn't one of "theirs." They'll make excuses for police violence in every case except where it was almost the only logical choice for said agent. Like what was he supposed to do? Some of those people were actually armed despite lies to the contrary. I'd be shitting my pants if the MAGA mob were making my work day that bad. What did they expect? I thought the Capitol police were absolutely incredibly soft and very very professional.
I talk to people online who hate immigrants because they are ‘ruining their town’ and they want to make sure their town is ‘kept in their hands’ and when I call them racist for saying that an African shop hand is incompetent because they can’t speak English they can’t accept it.
They don’t see themselves as racist, sexist, homophobic or fascist.
They’ve unhinged from reality.
"Becoming" hahaha that is a good one mate! Good laugh, have a pint on me.
Doesn't 'homeopathic' mean it's massively dilluted to the point where there's none of the original ingredients?
Or am I missing the joke here?
Nah, you're right but many people just take it to mean "alternative medicine", I think
I think the joke is that the bullet is smaller than the baseball bat.
But since it's also far more powerful, the joke doesn't really work for me.
"A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself. "
I believe the bullet is supposed to be the minute dose and shooting all the fascists would count as administering the dose in massive amounts. They could also just be saying it's a homebrew cure since most of my fellow Americans have guns and like to talk about them using them liberally.
Somehow this website is still waiting for an update.
Damn. I check that and this website pretty regularly just to see if I need to drastically change my lifestyle that day and so far I have no reason to change.
On a tangential note, I am amazed that even in homeopathy there are ones who believe it and ones that are outright scammers. What I mean is that some homeopathic (sic!) "drugs" are made out of non-existent ingredients diluted into non-existence even more. To be a quadratic scam seems like an impressive achievement to me
It is all about dilution AND succussion. The shaking is what makes it powerful, that and magical thinking.
I once knew a homeopath who tried to kill himself by taking a massive underdose.
Damn Alfred was gangsta af
Alfred was talking about insomnia, in this gallows humor piece. And his next line was, "an idiot could wield it, and indeed many do." Mocking violent idiots, as one should.
We calls those "freedom seeds"
(This is a shitpost, not a call to action)
"what's that? i can't hear you with those blazing round around me" ~ duke nukem
Who's got the pitchforks?
Both?
(unless your gonna do it)
Is that how I have to start signing all my posts to keep from getting banned for promoting self-defense?
I just hope violence is kept at a minimum. Most of the people where I live are Trumpies (well the older crowd especially) and they truly are just totally oblivious. They certainly aren't evil. It's so unfortunate because these are people I'd say are good people. They've never killed or directly harmed a soul to my knowledge. I just hope if there's violence that it's targeted top heavy because we all know who the problem(s) are and they could probably be counted by any tally counter that goes to 1k. AKA don't focus on the manipulated, focus on the manipulator(s).
Please note this is in no way condoning any violence outside of Minecraft
This is exactly how it started in Germany in the 1930ths:
Old people dreaming of the Empire - which by the way did very little for them - and not really into politics. They just wanted a change.
And then voted for their own hangman.
Best argument a relative told me why he voted for Hitler: "I thought he was a funny guy with excellent dark humor. I didn't knew he wasn't joking."
Ah yes, good old fashioned lead therapy. For fascism I recommend at least 9mm.
I find even simple gardening tools will do for the DIY-selfer.
Apply garden hose through the mouth into the throat. Open tap wide. Keep running for 5-10min.
While effective, this strategy has been proven untenable in the battlefield due to logistical constraints.
This is why we're fucked. The only tool to fight violent fascists is more violence. That's why I'm looking into relocating to another country. USA is brimming with violent assholes who can't wait for an opportunity to lash out.
And everyone here acts like a pussy about it and thinks fascists wont be mean if we're just nicer to them. 80% or more of this site's users are gonna wind up in the box car
In the meantime I'm preparing to use the tools available. Maybe someday it will be nice enough to return to, keep in touch.
Leave your keys and don't let the door hit you on the way out
FOUND ONE
Which way did they go boss?! Which way did they go??
Give those fa$ci$t$ a taste of their own medicine!
Always hilarious when the anti-2a groups post anything revolving around using firearms.
You're so close to understanding the 2nd amendment...we welcome you.
Downvote me all you want. Fascist don't stop using force because you created a meme.
What?
Have you ever considered that you are crafting a subjective world around you that doesn't exist? Nothing about this post has anything to do with firearms or the United States.
It's a commentary on the need to respond to those who use force to dominate others, with force. The firearm, bat, or otherwise is a metaphor representing appropriate uses of violence (to overcome a fascist oppressor).
Being able to understand and interpret images and text is a skill you should have at least learned the basics of by high school, otherwise you end up misunderstanding the whole world and spend your life angry at things while everyone around you looks at you and thinks, "What?".
Found the sheltered grad student
Yes because I forgot how the nazis were defeated...with words and thoughts and prayers.
Also right now in Ukraine they're kindly winning by sending strong worded memes and letters.
And Myanmar, they're also fighting with just words.
You people are delusional if you think you can defeat authoritarian fascist with kindness and words and voting.
The only reason that fascist listen to is force. Get over it. Nothing in this world is given when it has been already taken by force.
Did you read their comment? They advocated for the use of force and violence although with more nuance than that.
Yea...my point still stands. The same people who want to rebel against fascist...also hate firearms and would love to remove the 2nd. This isn't some unknown thing.
That is because it is the only reasonable response. Only dumbasses think they can stop fascism "with open debate and better ideas".
Ah, yes! Let the violent ideologies die on the "marketplace of ideas"...
Just because people think a military needs arms, that doesn't mean they think their unhinged neighbor needs them. The 2A says a well regulated militia should have arms, not just any rando.
This wasn't even a debate until recently. In the Old West every town had a prohibition on guns in town. If they didn't need them, you don't.
It doesn't say that. It says "... the right of the people..." meaning the people have the right mentioned. The militia is made out of any rando.
Lol tell that Myanmar. You are delusional if you think the army is going to protect you from fascist...
You brought up Nazis. It was national armies and navies that defeated them, not randos with handguns.
Myanmar is fighting the junta with 3d printed weapons. Fuck off with that bullshit. Also Poland fought back with small arms and so did France. What it sounds like is you would play the role of gas chamber victim. Most Jewish friends I have are armed to the teeth and their grandparents who lived through the Holocaust are fevrant supporters of the 2nd amendment. So are native Americans. Basically people who have lived through fascist rule. While you lot willingly want to disarm everyone.
You need help if you really believe that. It's not healthy to be that afraid. You're not going to be a partizan in a righteous war.
I am related to many people who fought and died in WW1 and 2. I know Holocaust survivors too, number tattoos and everything. Do you know how many guns they have? Like 3 disused hunting rifles total. Do you know what they say they learned fighting actual Nazis? Live your life and don't be afraid.
You don't need a gun to feel like a big man. It's a safety blanket for adults. Fear is the thing that will actually kill you. King George III and Hitler can't hurt you.
You're assuming I'm afraid, I'm not, it's a tool to have. It's the same reason I have smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in my home. The same reason I wear a seatbelt even when driving 5mins down the road. Do you walk around life without preparing? You must be miserable to people who have to deal with that if you do.
Your statement is hilarious, when the majority of Dems consider Republicans nazis and trump basically hitler. So which is it? Are they as bad and we need to prepare or are they not anywhere near nazis and you're all making shit up.
.
No, you suggested I was creating some world where people disagree that force is needed against fascist....this entire thread is proof that it's not just created but correct. Look how many people disagree with the right the bear arms and to use force against fascist. I think you've created a world where people agree to use force... because that's far from the truth.
#FACTS
Socialist rifle association exists. Only neolibs believe they don't need weapons to protect against possible tyranny.
2Aliberals, the SRA, pink pistols, Operation blazing sword, NAAGA, JPFO, tons of non-republican groups out there for gun rights. You're absolutely right, it's people who have never had to deal with the reality that other people might exist in a harmful way to them. Most I've noticed live in safe neighborhoods and think the police will be there to protect them.
Have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years? Antifascist groups in the US have been predominantly armed for a long fucking time. Are you so ignorant blindingly ignorant that you missed that, are you just trying to be deceptive, or are you just so far up your own ass that you can't imagine people outside your cult would be able to defend themselves?
Lol not to the level that most magats are, stop fooling yourself the antifa groups are made up of 99% wanting to ban firearms. I'm part of that 1% and know others that are as well. We literally get chastised for speaking about arming others. You're fooling yourself if you think it's different.
This has not at all been my experience. Most antifa groups are primarily anarchist or communist, which have never opposed arming people. Unless shit has been flooded by liberals in the last couple of years, I have no idea where this is coming from.
Edit: are these people actually doing stuff, or are these online circle jerks? Because the people who've been doing stuff since the 80's are primarily anarchists. If this is just online circle jerks, yeah, sounds like liberals.
In Seattle, a bunch of liberals started a group formed roughly on anarchist ideas to resist Trump. They got thousands of people together and basically did nothing. Anarchists got together a few dozen people and actually got shit done. I don't consider things like the Neighborhood Action Council or whatever the fuck it was called "antifascist" no matter what they may claim. If you are risking your lives in the streets, you know why it makes sense to be armed against these fucks. If your "antifascism" is voting, you're fucked.
The number of us who marched during the BLM movements armed where a lot less than those who were on the anti-blm side....and it was fucked up because the side we were there to protest with felt we were in the wrong. This is really well documented from all the footage online. The number of armed anti-blm vs the BLM groups were completely lopsided.
Alright, yeah, that's fair. I still think the "you're antifa thus you're anti-2a" is fucking stupid and obviously wrong.
There's a much more nuanced conversation that needs to happen on the left about guns. I absolutely hate liberals for making that impossible. They will continue to help fascists kill us because, even after everything, liberals still hate leftists more than fascists.
You're preaching to the choir. Hell you can see how the reaction is here.
But I'll try and continue to convert as many as I can. An armed minority is harder to oppress.
That Hitchcock meme is great! But for anyone else who wanted it to be real - it was originally a cure for insomnia, not fascism.
Thank you, I was wondering
Plus Hitchcock was an abusive fuck, especially towards women, and he had a movie that was considered positive about the Nazis by some, but later shot a documentary about the Holocaust that wasn't released until 2014, and two anti-Nazi propaganda films that weren't released until 1994.
Really works for both.
It's a cure for many things some might consider... unnatural.
Nope.
Proof for the curious. I'll let the bot relink to piped, I'm lazy.
Oh I love the last line. "An idiot could operate it, and indeed many do."
Bloodlust seeks any acceptable target. Be suspicious of your own instinct for violence. Fascists also think their violence is righteous.
When someone fucks you over in a $500 drug deal, that's the monetary cutoff point where violence is straight up recommended as far as I am concerned.
A. What does that have to do with fascism?
B. Alfred Hitchcock did not say this
A. There is a point where violence is justified.
B. Taking an image out of context and adding your take on it is called a meme.
A. This is your violent fantasy
B. This is your violent fantasy
Hate cannot be tolerated.
There's a broad range of responses between murder and tolerance. Your bloodlust makes you the same as the people you're so horny to mutilate.
Oh, weird, I initially read the comment you're replying to as agreeing with your position. Like: 'we can't allow our side to hate, or casually joke about killing, those who disagree politically with us' But after reading your reply I can see it being meant either of two opposite ways.
You're right. We should be tolerant of hateful, sadistic, bigoted, violent pricks and never stand up for what is right.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Proof for the curious
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Good bot.
I agree
A true doomer
What do you mean "nope"? I'm pretty sure bullets stopped the fascists in WW2. Is this a point of contention with you?
Alfred Hitchcock did not say this.
And OP is just fantasizing about fascism as an excuse to fantasize about violence. Tough Mother fucker on the internet.
Stephen Crowder didn't say all those things that memers on the Internet wrote on his sign either
Who says we are fantasizing?
I think some people are just looking for an excuse to do things they've been craving for a long time.
Let us not dehumanize the people we disagree with and call for violence. Because at that point we are no different than they are.
Bullshit. Fascism sees violence not as a means to an end, but a goal unto itself. It will be violent regardless. In contrast, even the most bloodthirsty anti-fascist sees violence as a means to an end; something to be left behind as soon as its purpose is complete.
If you want to stop it without violence, it has to be now. Once rooted in, a violent response is the only one that will work. Pretending otherwise will only enable them.
Agreed. Violence is precisely the problem.
My great grandfather used to drop 500lb bombs on them. It was super effective.
Your great grandfather sounds incredibly based!
Mine had the dubious honors of smuggling booze as an early teen, and allegedly helped popularize deposit fees because he would rent all the major party halls in his city, and then cancel all but one, ensuring he ran the only big party in town on a given weekend.
That sounds like the sort of thing my paternal grandad would do.
But what a party!
Mine was a pacifist, but spoke German, so they had him guard the POWs and report on what they said.
My grandfather helped your grandfather by going up in untested fighter planes with the pilots and checking to make sure none of the bolts were loose.
He was also an air raid warden in London, meaning he was out on the streets getting people to safety while the bombs were dropping.
I wish I had an ounce of that man's courage... although, being both Jewish and German, he knew exactly what had to be stopped.
Seems like Boeing could really use your grandfather right now.
I wouldn't want him up there in one of them.
If your great grandfather is a Soldier type he will deal an additional STAB damage as well.
He started off as Infantry sent to Gallipoli, then joined the Australian Flying corps and flew over Ypre and the Somme. After the end of WW1 he joined the RAF and flew medium bombers over Europe during WW2.
I just remember him as a kind old man that loved me.
He did that to protect the one he loved! Fuck the facist that throw the world into chaos back then.
At least the originals could honestly say that they didn't know how far it would be taken. Modern Nazis know exactly where this shit goes.
If it was a physical attack, he could've screeched at them in advance to really lower their defence too!
I think your great grandfather might have killed mine. I’m totally OK with this.
Conservative followers don't realize they are becoming fascists. It's sad to watch and no conversation helps them.
"WilL tHErE bE An invEsTIGatIon fOr the MuRdER of UnArMeD VeTeRaN AshlII BaBBoT?"
Clearly there are still a lot of the fuckers ready to fuck around and find out.
Unfortunately. She literally rammed her car into another car allegedly just because they made her mad. She had serious mental health issues, and it's horrible that she died, but the same people don't care when it isn't one of "theirs." They'll make excuses for police violence in every case except where it was almost the only logical choice for said agent. Like what was he supposed to do? Some of those people were actually armed despite lies to the contrary. I'd be shitting my pants if the MAGA mob were making my work day that bad. What did they expect? I thought the Capitol police were absolutely incredibly soft and very very professional.
I talk to people online who hate immigrants because they are ‘ruining their town’ and they want to make sure their town is ‘kept in their hands’ and when I call them racist for saying that an African shop hand is incompetent because they can’t speak English they can’t accept it.
They don’t see themselves as racist, sexist, homophobic or fascist.
They’ve unhinged from reality.
"Becoming" hahaha that is a good one mate! Good laugh, have a pint on me.
Doesn't 'homeopathic' mean it's massively dilluted to the point where there's none of the original ingredients?
Or am I missing the joke here?
Nah, you're right but many people just take it to mean "alternative medicine", I think
I think the joke is that the bullet is smaller than the baseball bat.
But since it's also far more powerful, the joke doesn't really work for me.
"A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself. "
I believe the bullet is supposed to be the minute dose and shooting all the fascists would count as administering the dose in massive amounts. They could also just be saying it's a homebrew cure since most of my fellow Americans have guns and like to talk about them using them liberally.
www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com
Somehow this website is still waiting for an update.
Damn. I check that and this website pretty regularly just to see if I need to drastically change my lifestyle that day and so far I have no reason to change.
Here's a great resource on how homeopathy really works.
On a tangential note, I am amazed that even in homeopathy there are ones who believe it and ones that are outright scammers. What I mean is that some homeopathic (sic!) "drugs" are made out of non-existent ingredients diluted into non-existence even more. To be a quadratic scam seems like an impressive achievement to me
It is all about dilution AND succussion. The shaking is what makes it powerful, that and magical thinking.
I once knew a homeopath who tried to kill himself by taking a massive underdose.
Damn Alfred was gangsta af
Alfred was talking about insomnia, in this gallows humor piece. And his next line was, "an idiot could wield it, and indeed many do." Mocking violent idiots, as one should.
We calls those "freedom seeds"
(This is a shitpost, not a call to action)
"what's that? i can't hear you with those blazing round around me" ~ duke nukem
Who's got the pitchforks?
Both?
(unless your gonna do it)
Is that how I have to start signing all my posts to keep from getting banned for promoting self-defense?
I just hope violence is kept at a minimum. Most of the people where I live are Trumpies (well the older crowd especially) and they truly are just totally oblivious. They certainly aren't evil. It's so unfortunate because these are people I'd say are good people. They've never killed or directly harmed a soul to my knowledge. I just hope if there's violence that it's targeted top heavy because we all know who the problem(s) are and they could probably be counted by any tally counter that goes to 1k. AKA don't focus on the manipulated, focus on the manipulator(s).
Please note this is in no way condoning any violence outside of Minecraft
This is exactly how it started in Germany in the 1930ths:
Old people dreaming of the Empire - which by the way did very little for them - and not really into politics. They just wanted a change.
And then voted for their own hangman.
Best argument a relative told me why he voted for Hitler: "I thought he was a funny guy with excellent dark humor. I didn't knew he wasn't joking."
Ah yes, good old fashioned lead therapy. For fascism I recommend at least 9mm.
I find even simple gardening tools will do for the DIY-selfer.
Apply garden hose through the mouth into the throat. Open tap wide. Keep running for 5-10min.
While effective, this strategy has been proven untenable in the battlefield due to logistical constraints.
This is why we're fucked. The only tool to fight violent fascists is more violence. That's why I'm looking into relocating to another country. USA is brimming with violent assholes who can't wait for an opportunity to lash out.
And everyone here acts like a pussy about it and thinks fascists wont be mean if we're just nicer to them. 80% or more of this site's users are gonna wind up in the box car
In the meantime I'm preparing to use the tools available. Maybe someday it will be nice enough to return to, keep in touch.
Leave your keys and don't let the door hit you on the way out
FOUND ONE
Which way did they go boss?! Which way did they go??
Give those fa$ci$t$ a taste of their own medicine!
Always hilarious when the anti-2a groups post anything revolving around using firearms.
You're so close to understanding the 2nd amendment...we welcome you.
Downvote me all you want. Fascist don't stop using force because you created a meme.
What?
Have you ever considered that you are crafting a subjective world around you that doesn't exist? Nothing about this post has anything to do with firearms or the United States.
It's a commentary on the need to respond to those who use force to dominate others, with force. The firearm, bat, or otherwise is a metaphor representing appropriate uses of violence (to overcome a fascist oppressor).
Being able to understand and interpret images and text is a skill you should have at least learned the basics of by high school, otherwise you end up misunderstanding the whole world and spend your life angry at things while everyone around you looks at you and thinks, "What?".
Found the sheltered grad student
Yes because I forgot how the nazis were defeated...with words and thoughts and prayers.
Also right now in Ukraine they're kindly winning by sending strong worded memes and letters.
And Myanmar, they're also fighting with just words.
You people are delusional if you think you can defeat authoritarian fascist with kindness and words and voting.
The only reason that fascist listen to is force. Get over it. Nothing in this world is given when it has been already taken by force.
Did you read their comment? They advocated for the use of force and violence although with more nuance than that.
Yea...my point still stands. The same people who want to rebel against fascist...also hate firearms and would love to remove the 2nd. This isn't some unknown thing.
That is because it is the only reasonable response. Only dumbasses think they can stop fascism "with open debate and better ideas".
Ah, yes! Let the violent ideologies die on the "marketplace of ideas"...
Just because people think a military needs arms, that doesn't mean they think their unhinged neighbor needs them. The 2A says a well regulated militia should have arms, not just any rando.
This wasn't even a debate until recently. In the Old West every town had a prohibition on guns in town. If they didn't need them, you don't.
It doesn't say that. It says "... the right of the people..." meaning the people have the right mentioned. The militia is made out of any rando.
Lol tell that Myanmar. You are delusional if you think the army is going to protect you from fascist...
You brought up Nazis. It was national armies and navies that defeated them, not randos with handguns.
Myanmar is fighting the junta with 3d printed weapons. Fuck off with that bullshit. Also Poland fought back with small arms and so did France. What it sounds like is you would play the role of gas chamber victim. Most Jewish friends I have are armed to the teeth and their grandparents who lived through the Holocaust are fevrant supporters of the 2nd amendment. So are native Americans. Basically people who have lived through fascist rule. While you lot willingly want to disarm everyone.
You need help if you really believe that. It's not healthy to be that afraid. You're not going to be a partizan in a righteous war.
I am related to many people who fought and died in WW1 and 2. I know Holocaust survivors too, number tattoos and everything. Do you know how many guns they have? Like 3 disused hunting rifles total. Do you know what they say they learned fighting actual Nazis? Live your life and don't be afraid.
You don't need a gun to feel like a big man. It's a safety blanket for adults. Fear is the thing that will actually kill you. King George III and Hitler can't hurt you.
You're assuming I'm afraid, I'm not, it's a tool to have. It's the same reason I have smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in my home. The same reason I wear a seatbelt even when driving 5mins down the road. Do you walk around life without preparing? You must be miserable to people who have to deal with that if you do.
Your statement is hilarious, when the majority of Dems consider Republicans nazis and trump basically hitler. So which is it? Are they as bad and we need to prepare or are they not anywhere near nazis and you're all making shit up.
.
No, you suggested I was creating some world where people disagree that force is needed against fascist....this entire thread is proof that it's not just created but correct. Look how many people disagree with the right the bear arms and to use force against fascist. I think you've created a world where people agree to use force... because that's far from the truth.
#FACTS
Socialist rifle association exists. Only neolibs believe they don't need weapons to protect against possible tyranny.
2Aliberals, the SRA, pink pistols, Operation blazing sword, NAAGA, JPFO, tons of non-republican groups out there for gun rights. You're absolutely right, it's people who have never had to deal with the reality that other people might exist in a harmful way to them. Most I've noticed live in safe neighborhoods and think the police will be there to protect them.
Have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years? Antifascist groups in the US have been predominantly armed for a long fucking time. Are you so ignorant blindingly ignorant that you missed that, are you just trying to be deceptive, or are you just so far up your own ass that you can't imagine people outside your cult would be able to defend themselves?
Lol not to the level that most magats are, stop fooling yourself the antifa groups are made up of 99% wanting to ban firearms. I'm part of that 1% and know others that are as well. We literally get chastised for speaking about arming others. You're fooling yourself if you think it's different.
This has not at all been my experience. Most antifa groups are primarily anarchist or communist, which have never opposed arming people. Unless shit has been flooded by liberals in the last couple of years, I have no idea where this is coming from.
Edit: are these people actually doing stuff, or are these online circle jerks? Because the people who've been doing stuff since the 80's are primarily anarchists. If this is just online circle jerks, yeah, sounds like liberals.
In Seattle, a bunch of liberals started a group formed roughly on anarchist ideas to resist Trump. They got thousands of people together and basically did nothing. Anarchists got together a few dozen people and actually got shit done. I don't consider things like the Neighborhood Action Council or whatever the fuck it was called "antifascist" no matter what they may claim. If you are risking your lives in the streets, you know why it makes sense to be armed against these fucks. If your "antifascism" is voting, you're fucked.
The number of us who marched during the BLM movements armed where a lot less than those who were on the anti-blm side....and it was fucked up because the side we were there to protest with felt we were in the wrong. This is really well documented from all the footage online. The number of armed anti-blm vs the BLM groups were completely lopsided.
Alright, yeah, that's fair. I still think the "you're antifa thus you're anti-2a" is fucking stupid and obviously wrong.
There's a much more nuanced conversation that needs to happen on the left about guns. I absolutely hate liberals for making that impossible. They will continue to help fascists kill us because, even after everything, liberals still hate leftists more than fascists.
You're preaching to the choir. Hell you can see how the reaction is here.
But I'll try and continue to convert as many as I can. An armed minority is harder to oppress.