what should we call cake day?

Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 80 points –

the term "cake day" just makes me think of r*ddit. I've seen Lemon Day going around, but we probably want to avoid affiliation with lemon party.

not that we can tell anybody what to do anyway, and each instance could even have its own. anyway, it needs to be something that obviously means "anniversary" and doesn't require explanation otherwise it'll just be annoying

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Don't. There's no reason to care about the anniversary of someone creating an account on a website. "Cake day" as a concept was one the most insufferable reddit-isms, and will remain so no matter what else you call it.

It's just a bit of polite banter.

Don't forget, this platform really is nothing more than a feature-rich chat room. It's okay to have a little fun with it.

Why do you hate people having innocent fun? Do you enjoy walking up to people who are smiling, and explaining that their reasons for doing so are dumb?

You're getting a lot of retorts in response to your comment, but I 100% agree. Sure telling people happy cake day is fun the first few times, but it inevitably just becomes stale. One of the things that made reddit not enjoyable was people parroting the same phrases all over the site.

Ok. So you're saying your disillusionment should apply to everyone?

If you can't have fun with it, no-one else should get to?

I was on Reddit for over a decade. Seeing people make posts to celebrate their anniversary for joining the platform was never stale.

Tolerating something a lot of people clearly have fun with costs you nothing, and trying to shut it down as "pointless" and "not fun" is such old man yelling "stop playing on the park lawn" type bullshit.

I mean, I'm not calling for a police state to shut down cake day or something. Just saying cake day was a shallow activity imo. People can choose to do whatever they want, but I would rather us think about what was actually valuable about reddit rather than just importing whatever preexisting culture there was.

But you DO act as if people won't just bring over whatever they personally liked. As if there's some debate to be had, and a kind of consensus to be reached about not doing so with stuff people like you arbitrarily consider "valueless".

Even within your own framework of "value" can you really argue that something lots of people like, that doesn't really cost anyone else anything, is somehow detrimental enough to oppose?

And who the fuck cares if it's shallow? Positive online interaction is positive online interaction. How the hell do you come to the conclusion that having less of THAT would be an improvement?

Lol, I have come to the conclusion that I want less of whatever this is. Here's your medal for winning whatever debate you thought we were having. 🏅

Lol, "insufferable". News flash - there's no "reason" to care about anything. Learn to find enjoyment in life where you can. You don't get a reward for choosing to be miserable the whole time.

Why does it even need to be acknowledged

We need to celebrate the registration day of all citizens in order to turn an informal innocuous event into an emotional milestone for seemingly jovial purposes, until of course the platform decides to operate for profit, in which case one can then commodify these events by urging loyal citizens to buy party badges to share with the birthdayee, regardless of whether or not one actually knows said person. Its called being a good citizen, and I am all here for it. Yes.

Happy lem-aversery would work I think

but I'll get that confused with the day that we celebrate the lunar excursion module from Apollo 11

Excuse you, sir, but you should be keeping the LEM in you hearts every day. And you call yourself an America. For shame.

It shouldn't be lemmy specific. Lemmy is just one fediverse app.

I mean for some this is Lemmy for others this is Jarboa either way it's a rodent therefore it may as well be cheese day 🧀

Although this would require agreement of most members of this free world app since some people are chees intolerant

There are normal cheeses, there are lactose free cheeses and vegan cheeses as well. I think that's all possible bases covered? Beside, cheese is delicious (I have yet to have a delicious vegan cheese but I'm told they exist - probably didn't get here yet or too pricey for me - but that's beside the point :D).

I vote cheese day, your logic is bullet proof.

But for some it is Mastodon or Mbin or PieFed or whatever. It shouldn't be specific to lemmy.

Cake day.

Make it as generic as possible

that's not generic, that's from Reddit as far as I can tell. "anniversary" would be generic

it doesnt become generic unless we make it ubiquitous

mbin already has it .

Yeah it's officially built in to Lemmy's web UI too.

that honestly kind of chaps my ass. why not just call it "date joined"

awww but i like the little cake icon and everything

im not going to let the enshitification of reddit take away everything i like. im also a bit salty about 'karma'

Cake Day is from birthdays, mate. You know? That annual celebration of creation where there's usually cake?

Stop letting spez live in your head and just enjoy where you're at.

which is why I'm asking for sources of it being used prior to reddit. I'm not arguing one way or another

I'm not arguing one way or another

You literally were.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with people who can't just scroll up and read

Oxford English Dictionary says the first instance of the phrase "cake day" was from a diary entry in the 1800s.

is there a way for me to get around to the OED online pay walls so I can see the details?

Cake day is nice, maybe think that reddit can't have it.

I think the concept of "account age" is not beneficial for some people like me.

Your account get two years, three years, but then for just that "big age number" you have difficulties to delete your account and quit the platform because "all of that would be lost".

It's roughly explained but you get the idea. It contribute to addiction for some.

I never celebrated my cake day on Reddit, and I was there for 15 years. I just don't give a shit.

Agreed, especially in Lemmy where accounts are bound to instances that you may not stick with. I'm a good example. I've been on Lemmy for over a year, but just abandoned my account on lemmy.world because I kind of hated it there lol.

cake day is a colloquial term that means birthday. it's not invented by or for reddit. also being reminded of reddit isn't something to avoid; you can survive. it's just a website. be normal.

edit: it seems like it was probably coined for reddit, but I know it also means birthday now. even if it didn't who gives a shit, the rest of my comment stands.

I think nothing is fine. Or narwhal bacon day for people who just can't let go of reddit.

I keep asking people for examples of cake day being used before Reddit

you know what good point, i guess i was familiar with the term before i was familiar with reddit so I made the wrong assumption. still the rest of what i said is true: it doesn't matter.

if it didn't matter you wouldn't have an opinion on it lol

so if someone asks a question you literally cannot say that it doesn't matter, because in saying so you'll have formed an opinion on it? that's ridiculous.

you just gave the definition of having an opinion. I don't know who you should be angry at about that but it certainly isn't me

I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm saying. but more importantly I'm not sure you're understanding what you're saying.

all I see is somebody still having a conversation 11 hours later about how little they have an opinion on something

yeah, we're not talking about my opinion are we, we're talking about your weird response.

I'm just trying to see where you're going to take this, out of sheer curiosity.

where you will explain your logic. so in your opinion, if someone asks a question, your answer can never be "it doesn't matter", is that it?

you're acting like you just started with "it doesn't matter". that's not where we started. you walked in here telling people to "be normal", so you opened with a factually incorrect statement followed by condescension.

your answer can be whatever you want it to be. but if you proclaim "i don't care" & then continue to engage on the topic, including doing additional research, for the next 14 hours, people are going to notice that you do actually care.

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The Artist Formerly Known As Cake Day or TAFKACD if you’re into the whole brevity thing.

just come up with an unpronounceable symbol to replace it

I think some variant of cake day is fun but I'm regretfully going to play devil's advocate this time (even though he really doesn't need any more advocates).

Is an account anniversary a thing we want to recognize as a part of Lemmy culture? There's quite a few people who aren't on their original Lemmy accounts anymore due to servers going offline and cultural disagreements with their original instances. When account migration becomes a thing, does your anniversary follow it? There's a higher percentage of people who make new accounts every so often for the purpose of privacy and that's a behavior I think, as a community, we want to respect even if we don't want to celebrate it - having recognized and trustworthy-ish regulars also has value. I'm not sure if Reddit-level recognition of an anniversary makes sense in the context of the culture we've already started building here.

Also, the majority of those who are on our original accounts have anniversaries within like a month of each other due to Reddit's API bullshit - and doesn't our Canvas event fall around that same time (although using that specifically as a "Fuck Reddit" event is imo not productive - I like the fact that last year's canvas had fuck u/spez everywhere and this year's didn't).

I mean I always migrated Reddit accounts at least yearly too, definitely not on an anniversary. I've always seen it as tied to an account, not a person.

i think cake day predates reddit

I was digging into that. can you find it? the top results claim that it was just from Reddit putting a picture of a birthday cake next to your join date

I vote for garlic bread day

I think cake day is fine. It's because you get a little cake icon by your name, every forum does that. That said, I think the lemon party concern is kind of a stretch, lol.

Just call it what you like. People will know what you mean from context. If we need a community consensus, it'll develop naturally.

Well it doesn't help that they use the cake icon for it.

Not sure what else to propose calling it but anything else would be better.

a cake has been used to represent celebration of birthdays or anniversaries for longer than we've been calling them cake days

cake day is just one more way to discourage you from leaving.

how's that

the concept of account lifespan duration, regardless of what it's called, exists only to make you feel more attached to your account.

You could go off activitypub and do something related to pubs. No word, just a 🍻. Or just Cheers! as the greeting for it.

I think we should normalise sharing your actual birthday, and while we're at it also share what street you grew up on, and your mother's maiden name