My favorite thing about this is that Ubisoft has single handedly made AAAA synonymous with awful.
My first thought with this video was "this looks like some trash Ubisoft would put out."
I guess I was right.
"AAAA" is the sound you make after realizing what you did with your money.
In a couple of years we will have "AAAAAAHHHHH WHY WHY OH MY GOD WHY AM I DOING THIS TO MYSELF"-games.
That or the realization "Ah", as in: "AAAAh, so that's what `` looks like"
With any luck they'll single handedly keep "AAAA" from catching on, because nobody with a shred of pride would want their multi-million dollar project connected to anything that was said to be AAAA.
Over the years I have learned to pay attention to certain keywords that made me be extra careful about games advertised. So when I heard of AAAA, I immediately knew that CEO was on ketamine and the game will start as a dumpster fire.
See you again in six months. Maybe it will be in an acceptable state by then.
"AAAA" is the sound you make when you start playing this abomination.
aaa aaaaa aaaaaaaAAAA
Sir, this is Ubisoft.
In 6 months everyone will have forgotten all about this and be playing the next shitty Far Cry game and complaining how it's an $80 unfinished mess.
At this point what is "a" game means. Aaaa means this than why not just grade it aa?
Its all about money and development team size. A is generally indie, AA is a small-medium teams, AAA is large teams. AAAA is marketing terminology because everyone thought that AAA just meant better.
Wth is the point of stormtrooper armor. Has it ever done anything?
I read somewhere that the armor distributes blaster bolt shock through it so all the Stormtroopers get knocked unconscious. They don’t die, otherwise they may as well not wear it at all as they fall over after one blaster bolt.
But as with everything in Star Wars lore, that’s probably a desperate retcon.
It also removes any sense or individuality. Contrasted with clones who frequently customised their armour.
Look, everyone has their own style of wearfare. Some people show up in full battle rattle with mirror finished armor. Others show up to look good.
You can see every moment a senior dev went to management and asked for time or money to develop a certain type of interaction and were told no every single time.
Most of these design decisions look like they were made to make the game incredibly bland and safe for a 5 year old to play.
Are you an outlaw or are you a big cuddly bear?
Who is this made for?
Star wars belongs to disney. Disney wants money from 0 to 99 year olds.
And yet somehow I'm managing to enjoy it.
Lol people in this sub shitting on others for enjoying a game that they hate. Must be hard to comprehend the fact that tastes can differ.
It's been a genuinely enjoyable game for me so far. Of course not without minor issues, but it does not even remotely deserve the hate it gets.
People can even BOTH enjoy stuff AND make fun of or complain about its failings.
They're being quite disgusting about it, too.
I experienced one lockup, noticed one takedown animation glitch, and found one rare interaction bug where a container stays in the closed/interactive state after being emptied. Not bad at all for 25 hours into a game at launch.
I had a lot of crashes back at launch, but after trying out a lot of things I think it eventually came down to my GPU being undervolted, didn't have a single crash since. The undervolt worked fine with Wukong, but that game isn't even remotely the same scale as Outlaws.
Been at it for about 23 hours, I think 'worst' in-game bug I had was Kay's hands acting weird on a speeder once, like she was grabbing the air.
It’s ridiculous. Doesn’t seem like game discussion happens on Lemmy anymore. All posts just seem to be geared towards shitting on whatever the hated game of the month is. It was Starfield now outlaws.
Look the game has decent reviews and most people are obviously enjoying it. Except the cynical folks on Lemmy, they got it all figured out. Bet most these people hating haven’t played it.
It's nothing to do with the quality of the game. It's to do with obscene pricing, a shitty experience, and a general enshittification of the gaming experience that people are financially supporting.
Same. It took me a bit to get the settings how Iiked them and figure out the gameplay loop. But now I think it is similar to Red Dead 2 or a Ghost Recon game. And it's set on gorgeous Star Wars maps.
It's okay but you're going a little far comparing it to RDR2.
People call RDR2 a masterpiece and yes it's very beautiful and very detailed. But the gameplay systems and controls don't really feel quite right to me, and I feel the same the same way about Star Wars Outlaws. Plus to me the games just feel similar when you're wandering around big wide open areas.
Not a surprising comparisong though, It certainly borrows a lot of elements from Red Dead. But it's also mixed with some Assassins's Creed, Division and even Witcher elements.
They also took inspiration from Adventure for the Atari VCS.
You're right, it's way less boring than a Rockstar game lol
People enjoy bad things all the time. Think heroin or junkfood.
I can't even remember the last time I saw an open world game where thr main character instantly drowns in water.
Elden ring comes to mind.
That's because, considering the bosses you have to fight, every character is weighted down by their enormous balls.
Why putting in a feature that the game doesn't need?
That's said, the way this game handles it is horrible. At least have the protagonist walk back when near the deep water or something
Or go full cartoon with silly leg paddles in the air before the drop and a big ol Plop sound
They really are milking Star Wars for all it’s worth.
I think I laughed most when they said Far Cry 6 was a AAAA game. You can't just call things AAAA because you can't manage budgets.
I've never played a modern game before that loses first the voice audio and finally the gunshot sounds after a few hours and has to be reloaded.
I think the only game I can call AAAA with a straight face is Red Dead Redemption 2.
Yet there are people on this thread claiming this is what triple/quadruple A gaming is and we should shut up, bend over and pay USD 60 for an unfinished product.
I think I have a bridge to sell to them :D
ummmmm that's cute but Super Mario World is a tretrigintuple-A game
That's 33 As and go fuck yourself if you can figure out the word better:
I don't understand what people were expecting this is an Ubisoft game, they are always mediocre trash.
I’ve had no excitement for this game since Ubisoft is such a disappointment of mediocrity. I grew bitter to them back when they announced the controversial shutting down of their legacy activation servers: this would prevent gamers from passing the online checks to play their games. Suddenly, despite me possessing a physical disc of Splinter Cell Blacklist on Wii U, I learned I would lose access to the DLC I paid for and “owned”. Certain missions would also become unplayable since you need online co-op. Ubisoft backpedaled after significant backlash from gamers, but since then I hesitate whenever I see them attached to any project.
I miss old Ubisoft. I’m playing Beyond Good & Evil 2003 on my GameCube for the first time, and this game is spectacular! Wish Ubisoft didn’t become evil, but it was inevitable.
It's either mediocre or trash, one is on the bottom and the other is at the middle.
are we really taking the "AAAA" seriously? why?
Because they've used it as an excuse to whack an extra $10 to the price.
I think some backlash is to be expected.
are people still expecting ubisoft to put out good games or what?
Oh just wait until AC Shadows launch, we will suddenly see massive fans of ubi's output just because the game was chosen to be part of a culture war.
it takes really tiny batteries
was this the team that made biomutant?
That's an insult to biomutant, it's the team that made The Division.
I mean... all these glitches really seem tame compared to skyrim on launch. Talk about a dumpster fire but it's one of the best selling games of the century.
I guarantee this game is nothing like that. It will be forgotten immediately.
Skyrim is kinda shit too.
Todd Howard will find you if this slander keeps up.
Do you like down votes? Because this is how you get down votes.
Ooh that's awful! How can they do this? I remember Assassins Creed 1 was better than this...
They could've just modded Ghost Recon Wildlands with pew pew guns and glowing knives, and still would've been a better experience than this.
I’d guarantee that everyone here’s favorite game of all time had bugs on launch. I say this with the understanding that there are games that launched with few to no bugs- many or even most of the AAA games we all know and love stated out with issues.
But don’t let this get in the way of a good old fashioned pitchfork parade. Keep on hating.
I remember when games used to be shipped completed and without bugs that required day one patches or patches at all. Seems that shipping out games that aren't optimized or ready to ship is so normal now that you say something like "everyone's favorite game had bugs on launch".
Because that’s where we are now. The internet made it easy to patch shit. This is how it is. We’re not going back to how it was because we’ve moved on from that. It sucks, but that’s how it is.
We can cry about how it used to be- knowing it can’t be that way again , or we can accept that things are different now and move on.
Want things the way they were? You’re you got have to remove the internet- yep…. The same internet you use to download that game and skip going to the brick-and-mortar is the same intern responsible for making patching incomplete games a thing.
Good luck.
Indeed there are plenty of games with way more bugs than this one but bugs themselves are not the issue.
Skyrim had and still has many bugs but despite all that it's a good game.
This game will remain bad even if you'll fix all bugs.
No game was made to appeal to every player. I haven’t gotten it yet- so I’m reserving judgement.
sooo, don't buy games at launch?
Also, plenty of AAA games never see their bugs get patched. I got stuck in a room in Dead Space for about 20 minutes trying to figure out the puzzle when it was just the boss that failed to load. This was a documented bug that was reported five years earlier.
Also, this isn't what a pitchfork parade looks like. It's not nearly that important.
I didn’t say that either. But games have bugs at launch. They get fixed. But judging a game on its day 1 is fucking stupid.
No, it's fair to judge a game when it becomes available for purchase.
K. Be mad then.
Not what being mad looks like. This is what MST3K popcorn throwing looks like.
There are plenty of indie games that do launch in stable, playable states. I recommend Hedon, Dusk, or HROT.
I do think games typically launched with fewer bugs before it was common to be able to patch games over the internet
Oh I’m sure that’s the case as well. Totally agree, however- people really need to relax on this shit. No Man’s Sky and CP2077 both serve as perfect examples that day one isn’t a finished product.
The people need to lighten up.
The day a full price is asked is the day a finished project should be expected.
Okay.
These are bad examples for two reasons:
Unless a game is sold as “pre-order for open beta access” or the more modern equivalent “early access”, I still expect games to be “complete” in terms of core content on release date. Bug fixes and quality of life changes later are ok, (but it would be nice not to need them) and games that never stop being updated are an exception (e.g. Minecraft).
Neither of those games was really “incomplete” on launch in terms of core features. Cyberpunk had some bad bugs, but the core of its controversy was poor performance on older consoles, which (as I understand it) was never really fixed. No Man’s Sky was missing multiplayer on launch, but the core of its controversy was people didn’t like the core gameplay loop and also didn’t like the randomly generated terrain and creatures. NMS has received a lot of content since then, but it hasn’t really changed its core gameplay loop and has only slightly improved the quality of random generation.
What about Outlaws is incomplete exactly?
And… BOTH of the games I mentioned were notoriously incomplete. Like- legendarily incomplete.
Idk what’s incomplete about Outlaws I don’t know much about the game.
I bought and enjoyed both NMS and Cyberpunk on release, and they don’t seem to have changed that much since then. My theory for why these games are well-received now is all the haters quit the game near release so now, years later, only the people who originally liked these games are still playing.
What was incomplete about Cyberpunk (besides it not working on older consoles, and having more bugs than I would hope for?)
What was incomplete about NMS (besides lack of multiplayer?)
Expecting a decent product for the price you paid == hating. What a 2024 moment.
That’s not at all what I said. And the fact that you need to create this straw man in order to have a response lends to the fact that you’re the type of person that will take a video on YouTube to be an example of what is happening to everyone that has played it.
Stay mad, bro.
Well, I'd rather be mad about being scammed then bend over for a shitty studio, but this is a safe space mate. No one's kink shaming here.
Well, I guess you dodged that bullet, eh… mate? But do know there are tons of people playing it that haven’t and probably won’t experience the issues in your cute little hate video. I hope that doesn’t upset you too much.
Why would I be upset about other people? You ok mate?
I’m fine mate. and why would you be upset? I can’t answer that. I’m not the one that posted a lame video showcasing a day one compilation of glitches in a video game I have no intention of playing.
Have a day bud. I’m moving on. Maybe you should as well.
There was nothing to move on from in the first place. Maybe you just want to have your opinions validated by others too much?
This was posted for laughs and as can be seen by the votes, almost everyone here got it. What you're doing is just unhealthy mate. Take care.
ROFL! My opinions validated? You’re the one that posted a video about glitches in a day one release of a game.
You’re soaking up all the validation in the comments of people agreeing- and yet, seemingly butthurt that someone disagrees with you right here.
Go on man. If you’re not upset- ignore my comments and bask in the sweet sweet glow of people agreeing with your every word.
😆
I’m fine either way… mate
Oh and a side note:
One isn’t seeking validation by posting an unpopular opinion in a thread full of butthurt people crying over a video game.
My favorite thing about this is that Ubisoft has single handedly made AAAA synonymous with awful.
My first thought with this video was "this looks like some trash Ubisoft would put out."
I guess I was right.
"AAAA" is the sound you make after realizing what you did with your money.
In a couple of years we will have "AAAAAAHHHHH WHY WHY OH MY GOD WHY AM I DOING THIS TO MYSELF"-games.
That or the realization "Ah", as in: "AAAAh, so that's what `` looks like"
With any luck they'll single handedly keep "AAAA" from catching on, because nobody with a shred of pride would want their multi-million dollar project connected to anything that was said to be AAAA.
Over the years I have learned to pay attention to certain keywords that made me be extra careful about games advertised. So when I heard of AAAA, I immediately knew that CEO was on ketamine and the game will start as a dumpster fire.
See you again in six months. Maybe it will be in an acceptable state by then.
"AAAA" is the sound you make when you start playing this abomination.
aaa aaaaa aaaaaaaAAAA
Sir, this is Ubisoft.
In 6 months everyone will have forgotten all about this and be playing the next shitty Far Cry game and complaining how it's an $80 unfinished mess.
At this point what is "a" game means. Aaaa means this than why not just grade it aa?
Its all about money and development team size. A is generally indie, AA is a small-medium teams, AAA is large teams. AAAA is marketing terminology because everyone thought that AAA just meant better.
Wth is the point of stormtrooper armor. Has it ever done anything?
I read somewhere that the armor distributes blaster bolt shock through it so all the Stormtroopers get knocked unconscious. They don’t die, otherwise they may as well not wear it at all as they fall over after one blaster bolt.
But as with everything in Star Wars lore, that’s probably a desperate retcon.
It also removes any sense or individuality. Contrasted with clones who frequently customised their armour.
Look, everyone has their own style of wearfare. Some people show up in full battle rattle with mirror finished armor. Others show up to look good.
You can see every moment a senior dev went to management and asked for time or money to develop a certain type of interaction and were told no every single time.
Most of these design decisions look like they were made to make the game incredibly bland and safe for a 5 year old to play.
Are you an outlaw or are you a big cuddly bear?
Who is this made for?
Star wars belongs to disney. Disney wants money from 0 to 99 year olds.
And yet somehow I'm managing to enjoy it.
Lol people in this sub shitting on others for enjoying a game that they hate. Must be hard to comprehend the fact that tastes can differ.
It's been a genuinely enjoyable game for me so far. Of course not without minor issues, but it does not even remotely deserve the hate it gets.
People can even BOTH enjoy stuff AND make fun of or complain about its failings.
They're being quite disgusting about it, too.
I experienced one lockup, noticed one takedown animation glitch, and found one rare interaction bug where a container stays in the closed/interactive state after being emptied. Not bad at all for 25 hours into a game at launch.
I had a lot of crashes back at launch, but after trying out a lot of things I think it eventually came down to my GPU being undervolted, didn't have a single crash since. The undervolt worked fine with Wukong, but that game isn't even remotely the same scale as Outlaws.
Been at it for about 23 hours, I think 'worst' in-game bug I had was Kay's hands acting weird on a speeder once, like she was grabbing the air.
It’s ridiculous. Doesn’t seem like game discussion happens on Lemmy anymore. All posts just seem to be geared towards shitting on whatever the hated game of the month is. It was Starfield now outlaws.
Look the game has decent reviews and most people are obviously enjoying it. Except the cynical folks on Lemmy, they got it all figured out. Bet most these people hating haven’t played it.
It's nothing to do with the quality of the game. It's to do with obscene pricing, a shitty experience, and a general enshittification of the gaming experience that people are financially supporting.
Same. It took me a bit to get the settings how Iiked them and figure out the gameplay loop. But now I think it is similar to Red Dead 2 or a Ghost Recon game. And it's set on gorgeous Star Wars maps.
It's okay but you're going a little far comparing it to RDR2.
People call RDR2 a masterpiece and yes it's very beautiful and very detailed. But the gameplay systems and controls don't really feel quite right to me, and I feel the same the same way about Star Wars Outlaws. Plus to me the games just feel similar when you're wandering around big wide open areas.
Not a surprising comparisong though, It certainly borrows a lot of elements from Red Dead. But it's also mixed with some Assassins's Creed, Division and even Witcher elements.
They also took inspiration from Adventure for the Atari VCS.
You're right, it's way less boring than a Rockstar game lol
People enjoy bad things all the time. Think heroin or junkfood.
I can't even remember the last time I saw an open world game where thr main character instantly drowns in water.
Elden ring comes to mind.
That's because, considering the bosses you have to fight, every character is weighted down by their enormous balls.
Why putting in a feature that the game doesn't need?
That's said, the way this game handles it is horrible. At least have the protagonist walk back when near the deep water or something
Or go full cartoon with silly leg paddles in the air before the drop and a big ol Plop sound
They really are milking Star Wars for all it’s worth.
I think I laughed most when they said Far Cry 6 was a AAAA game. You can't just call things AAAA because you can't manage budgets.
I've never played a modern game before that loses first the voice audio and finally the gunshot sounds after a few hours and has to be reloaded.
I think the only game I can call AAAA with a straight face is Red Dead Redemption 2.
Yet there are people on this thread claiming this is what triple/quadruple A gaming is and we should shut up, bend over and pay USD 60 for an unfinished product. I think I have a bridge to sell to them :D
ummmmm that's cute but Super Mario World is a tretrigintuple-A game
That's 33 As and go fuck yourself if you can figure out the word better:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple_names
Helmet hair rebel....
I don't understand what people were expecting this is an Ubisoft game, they are always mediocre trash.
I’ve had no excitement for this game since Ubisoft is such a disappointment of mediocrity. I grew bitter to them back when they announced the controversial shutting down of their legacy activation servers: this would prevent gamers from passing the online checks to play their games. Suddenly, despite me possessing a physical disc of Splinter Cell Blacklist on Wii U, I learned I would lose access to the DLC I paid for and “owned”. Certain missions would also become unplayable since you need online co-op. Ubisoft backpedaled after significant backlash from gamers, but since then I hesitate whenever I see them attached to any project.
I miss old Ubisoft. I’m playing Beyond Good & Evil 2003 on my GameCube for the first time, and this game is spectacular! Wish Ubisoft didn’t become evil, but it was inevitable.
It's either mediocre or trash, one is on the bottom and the other is at the middle.
are we really taking the "AAAA" seriously? why?
Because they've used it as an excuse to whack an extra $10 to the price.
I think some backlash is to be expected.
are people still expecting ubisoft to put out good games or what?
Oh just wait until AC Shadows launch, we will suddenly see massive fans of ubi's output just because the game was chosen to be part of a culture war.
it takes really tiny batteries
was this the team that made biomutant?
That's an insult to biomutant, it's the team that made The Division.
I mean... all these glitches really seem tame compared to skyrim on launch. Talk about a dumpster fire but it's one of the best selling games of the century.
I guarantee this game is nothing like that. It will be forgotten immediately.
Skyrim is kinda shit too.
Todd Howard will find you if this slander keeps up.
Do you like down votes? Because this is how you get down votes.
Ooh that's awful! How can they do this? I remember Assassins Creed 1 was better than this... They could've just modded Ghost Recon Wildlands with pew pew guns and glowing knives, and still would've been a better experience than this.
I’d guarantee that everyone here’s favorite game of all time had bugs on launch. I say this with the understanding that there are games that launched with few to no bugs- many or even most of the AAA games we all know and love stated out with issues.
But don’t let this get in the way of a good old fashioned pitchfork parade. Keep on hating.
I remember when games used to be shipped completed and without bugs that required day one patches or patches at all. Seems that shipping out games that aren't optimized or ready to ship is so normal now that you say something like "everyone's favorite game had bugs on launch".
Because that’s where we are now. The internet made it easy to patch shit. This is how it is. We’re not going back to how it was because we’ve moved on from that. It sucks, but that’s how it is.
We can cry about how it used to be- knowing it can’t be that way again , or we can accept that things are different now and move on.
Want things the way they were? You’re you got have to remove the internet- yep…. The same internet you use to download that game and skip going to the brick-and-mortar is the same intern responsible for making patching incomplete games a thing.
Good luck.
Indeed there are plenty of games with way more bugs than this one but bugs themselves are not the issue.
Skyrim had and still has many bugs but despite all that it's a good game.
This game will remain bad even if you'll fix all bugs.
No game was made to appeal to every player. I haven’t gotten it yet- so I’m reserving judgement.
sooo, don't buy games at launch?
Also, plenty of AAA games never see their bugs get patched. I got stuck in a room in Dead Space for about 20 minutes trying to figure out the puzzle when it was just the boss that failed to load. This was a documented bug that was reported five years earlier.
Also, this isn't what a pitchfork parade looks like. It's not nearly that important.
I didn’t say that either. But games have bugs at launch. They get fixed. But judging a game on its day 1 is fucking stupid.
No, it's fair to judge a game when it becomes available for purchase.
K. Be mad then.
Not what being mad looks like. This is what MST3K popcorn throwing looks like.
There are plenty of indie games that do launch in stable, playable states. I recommend Hedon, Dusk, or HROT.
I do think games typically launched with fewer bugs before it was common to be able to patch games over the internet
Oh I’m sure that’s the case as well. Totally agree, however- people really need to relax on this shit. No Man’s Sky and CP2077 both serve as perfect examples that day one isn’t a finished product.
The people need to lighten up.
The day a full price is asked is the day a finished project should be expected.
Okay.
These are bad examples for two reasons:
What about Outlaws is incomplete exactly?
And… BOTH of the games I mentioned were notoriously incomplete. Like- legendarily incomplete.
Idk what’s incomplete about Outlaws I don’t know much about the game.
I bought and enjoyed both NMS and Cyberpunk on release, and they don’t seem to have changed that much since then. My theory for why these games are well-received now is all the haters quit the game near release so now, years later, only the people who originally liked these games are still playing.
What was incomplete about Cyberpunk (besides it not working on older consoles, and having more bugs than I would hope for?)
What was incomplete about NMS (besides lack of multiplayer?)
Expecting a decent product for the price you paid == hating. What a 2024 moment.
That’s not at all what I said. And the fact that you need to create this straw man in order to have a response lends to the fact that you’re the type of person that will take a video on YouTube to be an example of what is happening to everyone that has played it.
Stay mad, bro.
Well, I'd rather be mad about being scammed then bend over for a shitty studio, but this is a safe space mate. No one's kink shaming here.
Well, I guess you dodged that bullet, eh… mate? But do know there are tons of people playing it that haven’t and probably won’t experience the issues in your cute little hate video. I hope that doesn’t upset you too much.
Why would I be upset about other people? You ok mate?
I’m fine mate. and why would you be upset? I can’t answer that. I’m not the one that posted a lame video showcasing a day one compilation of glitches in a video game I have no intention of playing.
Have a day bud. I’m moving on. Maybe you should as well.
There was nothing to move on from in the first place. Maybe you just want to have your opinions validated by others too much? This was posted for laughs and as can be seen by the votes, almost everyone here got it. What you're doing is just unhealthy mate. Take care.
ROFL! My opinions validated? You’re the one that posted a video about glitches in a day one release of a game.
You’re soaking up all the validation in the comments of people agreeing- and yet, seemingly butthurt that someone disagrees with you right here.
Go on man. If you’re not upset- ignore my comments and bask in the sweet sweet glow of people agreeing with your every word.
😆
I’m fine either way… mate
Oh and a side note:
One isn’t seeking validation by posting an unpopular opinion in a thread full of butthurt people crying over a video game.