Who the fuck uses mkfol? Like that's even a real command. GTFO
If only there were some way to give new names to an existing command. You could call them... Idk, nicknames? Pseudonyms? Or maybe a shorter word that means the same thing.
Somebody should invent that.
alias is a command to give nicknames to any other command in Linux
alias mkfol=mkdir
So using mkfol calls for mkdir
They're folders when it's a GUI and directories when it's a shell. It's been that way since long before Linux existed.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Yadda yadda alpine Linux yadda yadda
This but Linux.
yadda yadda nooo distro is better bla bla bla yadda
This smells of copy/pasta BUT if GNU is the OS and Linux is the kernel, are all the so-called Linux distributions in fact not distributions of GNU/Linux but distributions of just GNU? Since they are changing the OS and not the kernel? Unless they are leaving GNU as is and changing the kernel, in which case it actually is a distribution of Linux.
Distributions often ship their own compiled versions of the kernel, with some options changed, but it's still Linux. Same with GNU tools. But the main difference between distros isn't their flavor of GNU tools or what kernel they ship, the difference between distros is actually all the stuff that gets layered on top like the package manager.
And yet every Linux DE uses folder icons to represent "directories".
I find it ironic that windows uses dir - ie directory - to list what's there, but Linux only uses ls to list whatever the fuck
Dos called it directories, and windows ran on top of dos. And windows users say both.
Wdym? 'dir' comes with coreutils by default!
IMHO "folder" just sounds a lot more cozier than "directory".
I misread "cozier" as "cooler" and wondered if you were completely insane.
Now I imagine some lemming cozying up on a desk full of office supplies.
Either way I don't really get it.
Even though the gui file manager shows all directories as an image of a manila folder...
And they give you the option to create a new folder, not a directory.
The fact that this post got so many upvotes in c/lemmyshitpost says a lot about this community đź‘€
the 4 windows users atm
- just nod and smile, boys
Just lemmy in general.
The folders in Windows are not much of a folder anyway
They don’t even fold
Yes they do! My laptop folds for example and it has windows on it!
But windows are glass, and glass don't fold. Wait do you have one of those fancy foldable laptops? Lucky
And the command prompt uses the directory terminology anyway with the dir command.
Actually in windows, "dir" os short for "direct me to a list of this folders contents please, mr Gates"
Huh, am I the only one who has intentionally started callling them folders on Linux as well? The problem is that the world has gotten more complex over the years and “directory” no longer has a unique meaning. In fact Windows users especially may think of folders as that UI thing, and directories as the thing that has all the user accounts (and of course accounts may no longer uniquely mean users so you need to be more explicit there as well).
Most of my career, “directories” was the proper term. However After more miscommunications in the last decade or so, I changed my phrasing to account for human error.
And don’t get me started on tools like GitLab, where folders are called “groups”, or another that calls them “portfolios”
I have never in my (nearly) 20 years of being a software developer and general tech geek and (nearly) 10 years of exclusive linux desktop use, ever distinguished between the terms "folder" and "directory", nor encountered anyone who did either.
OP is just being weird.
It's just a joke
Foldurr
FOLD THE DIR!!!
FOLD THE DIR!
Fold the dir!
Fold dir…
Foldr…
... and then you get shredded to bits by a horde of Linux users.
alias cf=cd
Linux group after rightfully stating their distro choice factually sucks: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
"It sucks" is an opinionated statement, not a fact, and thus can't be rightful.
what if it's embedded linux in a vaccum cleaner?
Then any not embedded distro is a bad choice.
On the contrary. Opinions are subjective individual experience, and will always be rightful in the person's eyes. Just like an opinion cannot be objectively true. An opinion cannot, by definition, be wrong. It's their opinion, and they're entitled to it, and to tell them their subjective experience of reality is incorrect in matters of taste is not only tactless but pointless.
A person can hold a opinion or belief that is objectively wrong and no amount of schitzo subjective reality warping mental gymnastics changes objective reality. They may feel in the right but that's different from actually being right.
Some people believe the world is flat with all their heart and might despite their cellular phone working with a satellite that could not orbit without a round earth.
At some point a person of decent maturity and sanity realizes they hold an objectively wrong understanding of some aspects of the world when reality inevitably conflicts with their held beliefs.
A sound mind admits its fallibility in having occasionally shitty opinions and believing objectively wrong things, and makes an active effort to become more open minded.
Only mental gymnast and mentally unwell people double down and go "well the earth being round is just like, your opinion man! I'm still in the right since you haven't convinced me otherwise. You failed to alter my subjective view of reality! Fuck your evidence its just wrong!"
You guys are bringing philosophy into a Linux shitpost.
I just want you to be aware of that.
No corner of the internet is safe from overly intellectual jackasses like myself who like to disagree with other overly intellectual jackasses over the nature of truth and reality. I'm sure somewhere there's a comment thread on a scat porn site debating the nature of what a fetish even is.
in matters of taste
I addressed this in the comment. If you don't "like" something. That opinion can't be wrong or right. You don't like it, period. Others cannot dictate how one feels about a matter of taste. “This sucks” is an opinion in matter of taste that cannot, by definition, be invalidated by external objective means. For this person, this sucks.
They didn't say it was wrong, they said it wasn't right. Proper opinions can't be either.
Exactly, that's 100% my point. It will always be rightful, because it's theirs.
I meant they can't be right or wrong. An actual opinion doesn't have a truth value.
Interesting
From how I have experienced it, folder is macOS-speech and directory is Windows-speech.
I guess if you have knowledge of the Windows terminal and tech in general but the average Windows user definitellyyyy calls it a folder
And Linux-speech is place
Starting with Apple II, folder never caught on with me anyway. Everything has always been a directory.
I'm lazy and saying "folder" is fewer syllables than saying "directory".
Yah, these kids and their new-fangled "Graphical User Interfaces" have to keep coming up with new words for the same old stuff all the time.
I use them interchangeably
I say folder when I'm in the GUI file manager, and I say directory when I'm in the terminal.
Add this to your profile:
alias mkfol=mkdir
Have a fun life buddy.
Who the fuck uses mkfol? Like that's even a real command. GTFO
If only there were some way to give new names to an existing command. You could call them... Idk, nicknames? Pseudonyms? Or maybe a shorter word that means the same thing.
Somebody should invent that.
alias is a command to give nicknames to any other command in Linux
alias mkfol=mkdir
So using mkfol calls for mkdir
They're folders when it's a GUI and directories when it's a shell. It's been that way since long before Linux existed.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
Yadda yadda alpine Linux yadda yadda
This but Linux.
yadda yadda nooo distro is better bla bla bla yadda
This smells of copy/pasta BUT if GNU is the OS and Linux is the kernel, are all the so-called Linux distributions in fact not distributions of GNU/Linux but distributions of just GNU? Since they are changing the OS and not the kernel? Unless they are leaving GNU as is and changing the kernel, in which case it actually is a distribution of Linux.
Distributions often ship their own compiled versions of the kernel, with some options changed, but it's still Linux. Same with GNU tools. But the main difference between distros isn't their flavor of GNU tools or what kernel they ship, the difference between distros is actually all the stuff that gets layered on top like the package manager.
It has become copypasta, but it is pretty much a direct quote of something Stallman said.
You fucking freax
Folder? I hardly know her!
And yet every Linux DE uses folder icons to represent "directories".
I find it ironic that windows uses dir - ie directory - to list what's there, but Linux only uses ls to list whatever the fuck
Dos called it directories, and windows ran on top of dos. And windows users say both.
Wdym? 'dir' comes with coreutils by default!
IMHO "folder" just sounds a lot more cozier than "directory".
I misread "cozier" as "cooler" and wondered if you were completely insane.
Now I imagine some lemming cozying up on a desk full of office supplies.
Either way I don't really get it.
Even though the gui file manager shows all directories as an image of a manila folder...
And they give you the option to create a new folder, not a directory.
The fact that this post got so many upvotes in c/lemmyshitpost says a lot about this community đź‘€
the 4 windows users atm
- just nod and smile, boys
Just lemmy in general.
The folders in Windows are not much of a folder anyway
They don’t even fold
Yes they do! My laptop folds for example and it has windows on it!
But windows are glass, and glass don't fold. Wait do you have one of those fancy foldable laptops? Lucky
And the command prompt uses the directory terminology anyway with the dir command.
Actually in windows, "dir" os short for "direct me to a list of this folders contents please, mr Gates"
Huh, am I the only one who has intentionally started callling them folders on Linux as well? The problem is that the world has gotten more complex over the years and “directory” no longer has a unique meaning. In fact Windows users especially may think of folders as that UI thing, and directories as the thing that has all the user accounts (and of course accounts may no longer uniquely mean users so you need to be more explicit there as well).
Most of my career, “directories” was the proper term. However After more miscommunications in the last decade or so, I changed my phrasing to account for human error.
And don’t get me started on tools like GitLab, where folders are called “groups”, or another that calls them “portfolios”
I have never in my (nearly) 20 years of being a software developer and general tech geek and (nearly) 10 years of exclusive linux desktop use, ever distinguished between the terms "folder" and "directory", nor encountered anyone who did either.
OP is just being weird.
It's just a joke
Foldurr
FOLD THE DIR!!!
FOLD THE DIR!
Fold the dir!
Fold dir…
Foldr…
... and then you get shredded to bits by a horde of Linux users.
Linux group after rightfully stating their distro choice factually sucks: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
"It sucks" is an opinionated statement, not a fact, and thus can't be rightful.
what if it's embedded linux in a vaccum cleaner?
Then any not embedded distro is a bad choice.
On the contrary. Opinions are subjective individual experience, and will always be rightful in the person's eyes. Just like an opinion cannot be objectively true. An opinion cannot, by definition, be wrong. It's their opinion, and they're entitled to it, and to tell them their subjective experience of reality is incorrect in matters of taste is not only tactless but pointless.
A person can hold a opinion or belief that is objectively wrong and no amount of schitzo subjective reality warping mental gymnastics changes objective reality. They may feel in the right but that's different from actually being right.
Some people believe the world is flat with all their heart and might despite their cellular phone working with a satellite that could not orbit without a round earth. At some point a person of decent maturity and sanity realizes they hold an objectively wrong understanding of some aspects of the world when reality inevitably conflicts with their held beliefs.
A sound mind admits its fallibility in having occasionally shitty opinions and believing objectively wrong things, and makes an active effort to become more open minded.
Only mental gymnast and mentally unwell people double down and go "well the earth being round is just like, your opinion man! I'm still in the right since you haven't convinced me otherwise. You failed to alter my subjective view of reality! Fuck your evidence its just wrong!"
You guys are bringing philosophy into a Linux shitpost.
I just want you to be aware of that.
No corner of the internet is safe from overly intellectual jackasses like myself who like to disagree with other overly intellectual jackasses over the nature of truth and reality. I'm sure somewhere there's a comment thread on a scat porn site debating the nature of what a fetish even is.
I addressed this in the comment. If you don't "like" something. That opinion can't be wrong or right. You don't like it, period. Others cannot dictate how one feels about a matter of taste. “This sucks” is an opinion in matter of taste that cannot, by definition, be invalidated by external objective means. For this person, this sucks.
They didn't say it was wrong, they said it wasn't right. Proper opinions can't be either.
Exactly, that's 100% my point. It will always be rightful, because it's theirs.
I meant they can't be right or wrong. An actual opinion doesn't have a truth value.
Interesting
From how I have experienced it, folder is macOS-speech and directory is Windows-speech.
I guess if you have knowledge of the Windows terminal and tech in general but the average Windows user definitellyyyy calls it a folder
And Linux-speech is place
Starting with Apple II, folder never caught on with me anyway. Everything has always been a directory.
I'm lazy and saying "folder" is fewer syllables than saying "directory".
Yah, these kids and their new-fangled "Graphical User Interfaces" have to keep coming up with new words for the same old stuff all the time.
I use them interchangeably
I say folder when I'm in the GUI file manager, and I say directory when I'm in the terminal.
When you mention you used a GUI:
That's genius!