DeSantis says that he'll be a direct threat to your health if elected.
Or basically he'll hold his finger to the wind and say whatever he thinks the hard-right fringe wants.
People made excuses like that for Trump in 2016. Turns out he did exactly what he said he would. The country did a full Pikachu face.
Believe DeSantis when he says stuff like this. And also consider his record in Florida doing exactly that.
Sure, I don’t think he’s a secret liberal or something. Anyway by acting as anti-science and fascist as possible he’d be representing his constituents.
That's the thing, he's a living God in Florida.
Oh we hate his ass in Florida, too. He's a pretender with no friends, only favors owed for acting like a snowflake baby Hitler for the extermist and corrupt Republicans in the state congress.
He’s got absolutely no shot at being President, and every time he opens his mouth, support for him drops. Keep talking Ronny.
I definitely don't want him to win, but it would be nice if one of those assholes could actually pose a real threat to Trump's almost inevitable nomination.
If Trump had actual competition in the Republican primary the infighting would be so bad they'd literally tear the party apart.
For there to be actual competition the moderates would need to drop any remaining DeSantis support (which probably isn't much) and unite under Haley (preferably) or Pence/Christie. Haley has been gaining some traction in NH so it could be possible but probably unlikely. Trump will more than likely run away with the nomination.
Probably wishful thinking. They all postured like that the first time. Then fell in line and kissed trumps ass. Remember all the horrible things he said about Cruz, his wife and father? Then Cruz shut up and sucked up to him the second he lost any hope of winning the primary.
They're all just souless horrible people. They just want money and power. I'm not sure if any of them believe most of what they say and they'll kiss any ass that will help them win their next election.
What if Trump is actually jailed and/or barred from running? Wouldn't that make DeSatan the next best candidate? Even if just one state bars Trump from running, that should be enough to end his campaign and hand the nomination to DeSanctimonious. He'll still lose the general election to Biden, but still.
It would probably be Ramaswamy. He's ahead of DeSantis in many polls and essentially believes everything Trump does. Plus he has way more charisma than DeSantis.
Really? I kept seeing him get chewed on in news articles, but felt like he'd have instantly stolen second place from Desantis purely from mirroring Trump, if he were white and not named Ramaswamy. Haley too felt like she'd have been a standout, were she not a woman look for support from the GOP. Kept throwing me for a loop seeing the articles saying Desantis "won" the debate. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the next primary debate.
The aggregated polling at 538 still has Ramaswamy in third place at 7% and Haley right behind him at 5.5%, but given that Desantis has dropped all the way down to 14.2%, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them pushed him out. Trump is still sitting at 55.3%, but he's also skipping the next debate, so hopefully that can fade. Plus, you know, all the criminal lawsuits.
It might, but luckily DeSantis is so unlikeable and has zero charisma, that the republicans would never win a presidential election with him as the candidate.
Support for him drops and support for Trump grows
And my belief in the average American drops
It can go lower?
There is a subset of republicans who don't want another trump term, put some stock in desanctimonious, and now are basically giving up on the election
Good thing we won’t have to worry about that
Latest polling has him below Chris Christie so....yeah lol who asked him?
Wait, seriously?
Yes. The good news is he's bottoming out. The bad news is Vivek is doing well.
I think there are too many racists who won't be willing to vote for Vivek in the primary when it comes down to it, though. He hasn't even pulled a Nikki Haley and pretended to be white, and I know that bothers people. I've read some comments that are super gross but also positive(ish, racism is never positive, really) for anyone who opposes him for being a shitbag.
Right. In order for the grift that Vivek is trying to fully work, he has to be a white male cishet xtian. He does not check all of those identity politics boxes so it's only going to work for a sliver of the GOP.
Eh, I'm not so sure. Racists love an Uncle Tom.
I don't understand the party thought process: they seem to want as many births as possible, but they also seem to want as many deaths as possible. What does that get them?
Edit: never mind, I figured it out. This is slave-owner mentality. You want/need lots of fresh new meat for the grinder, but then you want to be rid of them as soon as they are past their forced-labor prime.
This is slave-owner mentality
It's also religious-war/race war mentality.
The 'covid is fake/masks don't work' talking points were cast early on, when the data were mostly being reported in high-population-density areas. I suspect they decided the pandemic was a political opportunity, to let the virus kill off minorities and democrats in the cities for them.
Of course, they're stupid as hell in that they killed far more of their own voters than they did anyone else.
It is entirely possible that the lopsided amount of covid related deaths among the conservative population actually skewed purple districts to blue in recent years. Stop this timeline I want to get off.
We should remove warning labels for a year and absolutely decimate the Conservative voting base.
Considering the elderly were most at risk, this isn’t surprising.
They will say and do whatever they think will whip their cultists into a frenzy enough to vote and keep them in power. Whether or not it kills those same voters is irrelevant to them.
There are some of them who are just idiot true believers, but they don't tend to be the ones in high leadership positions.
Yeah, DeSADIST is one of those people that surely knows better. But he has to reverse virtue signal to the feces-flinging howler monkeys that make up his party, and they actually will believe whatever they are told to believe, as long as they think it will "own the libs".
He's actually a tricky one for me to call. He might be in the category of people who fell for their own bullshit.
It has nothing to do with protecting lives, it's securing the votes of religious Americans.
Why is this bozo even getting tv time? Just interview a local homeless man in need.
At this point, it'd probably get better ratings. Especially if it was like a dangerous meth head with a knife.
We should stop giving private corporations public funds anyway. Not that I think DeSantis would do it, but medicine and vaccines should 100% be funded, researched, and produced by public parties.
Edit before my comment gets misunderstood: my comment is in no way a compliment to DeSantis or anti-vaccine in any way. Just against private companies being given tax dollars
They were publicly funded! We allowed private interests to make money off of them anyway.
The American Dream lol.
Interesting. I remember when the True Conservatives (TM) were telling me that donnie won't be the selection for their party, but ronnie will. Because he's so reasonable and all and donnie without the baggage.
Wonder where all those people are right about now? They were saying they'll never vote for the "Democrat (sic) Party", because "too extreme", "too woke", etc, but will vote third party if donnie does win the primary, but otherwise, they wanted ronnie. Again, because of so many principles. LOL.
DeSantis has just become trump as a politician. Playing to the same depraved racist, anti science base for votes. I've been more afraid of him getting elected than Trump for 4+ years because he's not quiet as braindead and knows how to do a little bit of politicing to get some shit done.
Trump was a useful idiot. DeSantis would probably get more horrific shit done than he would...
Lol real great talk there, moron. Trashing the CDC is definitely and saying not to trust science is definitely something I want in a president.
He’s going to get people killed, and it will be part of the plan.
I don’t think he’ll have to worry much about that.
What an absolute skid mark.
Why in the fuck would ANYONE vote for this guy?
Even racist assholes outside of Florida aren't thrilled with him.
Because he hurts the right people.
Meanwhile, he's polling 5th in New Hampshire and even fellow Republicans consider his campaign an embarrassment, so spewing dingbat contrarian shit like this is basically all he has left.
Desantis wont really do anything positive as president.
Could’ve stopped that sentence at “positive”.
Unfortunately, his effect on COVID will be very positive.
More reverse virtue signaling from the party where cruelty is the point.
Vice signaling. Such a truly bizarre component of the GQP.
Anti science presidents are not the future. DeSantis will never be president. I hope they vote him out of Governor too.
He's on his 2nd term and cannot run for a consecutive 3rd, but he's governor until 2027. Plenty of time to further destroy the state.
Surprised he hasn't changed that law yet. Guess he has 4 more years to do it.
Ron DeSantis is a piece of shit and a very weird person
Keep digging that hole Ron, you’re a great example of not learning from mistakes.
Such a weird tactic. It's like none of them have any idea how to campaign, and they haven't realized that Trump already has the right wing locked up. Campaigning to his right is a shortcut to irrelevance.
Most are campaigning for the VP spot or to pick up where trump will leave off if/when he’s brought to prison. They don’t need to win, they just need to be the last one standing because the MAGAts will vote for the R, not the candidate
I think he’s pursuing a campaign to be the lead leftover, if/when Trump strokes out or is unexpectedly laid low by a lawsuit.
Is that a surprise to anyone?
However, oddly enough, he said he is going to approve subsidies and interest free loans if you spend the money on baby shoes.
Florida Man
Doin' the things a Florida can.
Who needs public health?
Gotta cater to your crazies!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“Certainly, we’re not going to fund them,” the Florida Republican governor said during a wide-ranging interview with ABC News recorded Wednesday from Midland, Texas, where he announced his domestic energy policy.
The comment comes as DeSantis has ramped up his attacks in recent weeks on former President Donald Trump, the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination, over his administration’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic.
We’re going to hold people accountable and we’re going to ensure that in the United States, you’re never infringed upon by some health bureaucrat trying to take away your freedom,” DeSantis said in Spencer, Iowa, in late August.
As some limited, local mask mandates have returned, DeSantis held a roundtable last week on the new Covid-19 shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, where his surgeon general recommended people under 65 against receiving them.
The governor said the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention cannot be trusted – a response that elicited a prolonged on-air clarification about the scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of coronavirus vaccines from ABC anchor Linsey Davis.
Asked to contrast himself with Trump, DeSantis rattled off a list of differences, touching on their upbringings and early adult life while continuing to push pragmatic arguments about their capacity to serve.
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Look America, we need more leadership like this. Vaccines? What next, a living wage?? A consumer protection agency??! What’s wrong with you? John Fetterman was dressed like a hardworking, knowledgeable, worker today and that’s not what we’ve been about! We have been about protestant work ethic and child labor and that’s who we need to fight the next war we make up!!!
Well DeSantis is never going to get elected so he won't be able to implement that.
That being said, at what point do we cut funding for the vaccine? Why are we subsidizing a product that is making pharmaceutical companies tons of money? It's not like they are broke.
Additionally, when are we going to revoke the Emergency Use Authorization for these products?
Both Pfizer and Moderna got full approval for the original vaccines; I'm not sure if NovaVax is approved yet or not.
I believe that the newest formulations for Pfizer and Moderna are under EUA.
Oh that's good. I didn't see they had gotten the full approval.
I think there will need to be a point though where we determine that those who are not at risk don't need to get the vaccine and those at risk should still get it.
The pharmaceutical companies are pulling in tons of money based on the strong push that "everyone must get it". Unfortunately that money gets funneled into their lobbying power and thus continues the viscous cycle.
DeSantis says that he'll be a direct threat to your health if elected.
Or basically he'll hold his finger to the wind and say whatever he thinks the hard-right fringe wants.
People made excuses like that for Trump in 2016. Turns out he did exactly what he said he would. The country did a full Pikachu face.
Believe DeSantis when he says stuff like this. And also consider his record in Florida doing exactly that.
Sure, I don’t think he’s a secret liberal or something. Anyway by acting as anti-science and fascist as possible he’d be representing his constituents.
That's the thing, he's a living God in Florida.
Oh we hate his ass in Florida, too. He's a pretender with no friends, only favors owed for acting like a snowflake baby Hitler for the extermist and corrupt Republicans in the state congress.
He'll have to lick the pudding off first.
He’s got absolutely no shot at being President, and every time he opens his mouth, support for him drops. Keep talking Ronny.
I definitely don't want him to win, but it would be nice if one of those assholes could actually pose a real threat to Trump's almost inevitable nomination.
If Trump had actual competition in the Republican primary the infighting would be so bad they'd literally tear the party apart.
For there to be actual competition the moderates would need to drop any remaining DeSantis support (which probably isn't much) and unite under Haley (preferably) or Pence/Christie. Haley has been gaining some traction in NH so it could be possible but probably unlikely. Trump will more than likely run away with the nomination.
Probably wishful thinking. They all postured like that the first time. Then fell in line and kissed trumps ass. Remember all the horrible things he said about Cruz, his wife and father? Then Cruz shut up and sucked up to him the second he lost any hope of winning the primary.
They're all just souless horrible people. They just want money and power. I'm not sure if any of them believe most of what they say and they'll kiss any ass that will help them win their next election.
What if Trump is actually jailed and/or barred from running? Wouldn't that make DeSatan the next best candidate? Even if just one state bars Trump from running, that should be enough to end his campaign and hand the nomination to DeSanctimonious. He'll still lose the general election to Biden, but still.
It would probably be Ramaswamy. He's ahead of DeSantis in many polls and essentially believes everything Trump does. Plus he has way more charisma than DeSantis.
Really? I kept seeing him get chewed on in news articles, but felt like he'd have instantly stolen second place from Desantis purely from mirroring Trump, if he were white and not named Ramaswamy. Haley too felt like she'd have been a standout, were she not a woman look for support from the GOP. Kept throwing me for a loop seeing the articles saying Desantis "won" the debate. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the next primary debate.
The aggregated polling at 538 still has Ramaswamy in third place at 7% and Haley right behind him at 5.5%, but given that Desantis has dropped all the way down to 14.2%, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them pushed him out. Trump is still sitting at 55.3%, but he's also skipping the next debate, so hopefully that can fade. Plus, you know, all the criminal lawsuits.
It might, but luckily DeSantis is so unlikeable and has zero charisma, that the republicans would never win a presidential election with him as the candidate.
Support for him drops and support for Trump grows
And my belief in the average American drops
It can go lower?
There is a subset of republicans who don't want another trump term, put some stock in desanctimonious, and now are basically giving up on the election
Good thing we won’t have to worry about that
Latest polling has him below Chris Christie so....yeah lol who asked him?
Wait, seriously?
Yes. The good news is he's bottoming out. The bad news is Vivek is doing well.
I think there are too many racists who won't be willing to vote for Vivek in the primary when it comes down to it, though. He hasn't even pulled a Nikki Haley and pretended to be white, and I know that bothers people. I've read some comments that are super gross but also positive(ish, racism is never positive, really) for anyone who opposes him for being a shitbag.
Right. In order for the grift that Vivek is trying to fully work, he has to be a white male cishet xtian. He does not check all of those identity politics boxes so it's only going to work for a sliver of the GOP.
Eh, I'm not so sure. Racists love an Uncle Tom.
I don't understand the party thought process: they seem to want as many births as possible, but they also seem to want as many deaths as possible. What does that get them?
Edit: never mind, I figured it out. This is slave-owner mentality. You want/need lots of fresh new meat for the grinder, but then you want to be rid of them as soon as they are past their forced-labor prime.
It's also religious-war/race war mentality.
The 'covid is fake/masks don't work' talking points were cast early on, when the data were mostly being reported in high-population-density areas. I suspect they decided the pandemic was a political opportunity, to let the virus kill off minorities and democrats in the cities for them.
Of course, they're stupid as hell in that they killed far more of their own voters than they did anyone else.
It is entirely possible that the lopsided amount of covid related deaths among the conservative population actually skewed purple districts to blue in recent years. Stop this timeline I want to get off.
We should remove warning labels for a year and absolutely decimate the Conservative voting base.
Considering the elderly were most at risk, this isn’t surprising.
They will say and do whatever they think will whip their cultists into a frenzy enough to vote and keep them in power. Whether or not it kills those same voters is irrelevant to them.
There are some of them who are just idiot true believers, but they don't tend to be the ones in high leadership positions.
Yeah, DeSADIST is one of those people that surely knows better. But he has to reverse virtue signal to the feces-flinging howler monkeys that make up his party, and they actually will believe whatever they are told to believe, as long as they think it will "own the libs".
He's actually a tricky one for me to call. He might be in the category of people who fell for their own bullshit.
It has nothing to do with protecting lives, it's securing the votes of religious Americans.
Why is this bozo even getting tv time? Just interview a local homeless man in need.
At this point, it'd probably get better ratings. Especially if it was like a dangerous meth head with a knife.
We should stop giving private corporations public funds anyway. Not that I think DeSantis would do it, but medicine and vaccines should 100% be funded, researched, and produced by public parties.
Edit before my comment gets misunderstood: my comment is in no way a compliment to DeSantis or anti-vaccine in any way. Just against private companies being given tax dollars
They were publicly funded! We allowed private interests to make money off of them anyway.
The American Dream lol.
Interesting. I remember when the True Conservatives (TM) were telling me that donnie won't be the selection for their party, but ronnie will. Because he's so reasonable and all and donnie without the baggage.
Wonder where all those people are right about now? They were saying they'll never vote for the "Democrat (sic) Party", because "too extreme", "too woke", etc, but will vote third party if donnie does win the primary, but otherwise, they wanted ronnie. Again, because of so many principles. LOL.
DeSantis has just become trump as a politician. Playing to the same depraved racist, anti science base for votes. I've been more afraid of him getting elected than Trump for 4+ years because he's not quiet as braindead and knows how to do a little bit of politicing to get some shit done.
Trump was a useful idiot. DeSantis would probably get more horrific shit done than he would...
Lol real great talk there, moron. Trashing the CDC is definitely and saying not to trust science is definitely something I want in a president.
He’s going to get people killed, and it will be part of the plan.
I don’t think he’ll have to worry much about that.
What an absolute skid mark.
Why in the fuck would ANYONE vote for this guy?
Even racist assholes outside of Florida aren't thrilled with him.
Because he hurts the right people.
Meanwhile, he's polling 5th in New Hampshire and even fellow Republicans consider his campaign an embarrassment, so spewing dingbat contrarian shit like this is basically all he has left.
Desantis wont really do anything positive as president.
Could’ve stopped that sentence at “positive”.
Unfortunately, his effect on COVID will be very positive.
More reverse virtue signaling from the party where cruelty is the point.
Vice signaling. Such a truly bizarre component of the GQP.
Anti science presidents are not the future. DeSantis will never be president. I hope they vote him out of Governor too.
He's on his 2nd term and cannot run for a consecutive 3rd, but he's governor until 2027. Plenty of time to further destroy the state.
Surprised he hasn't changed that law yet. Guess he has 4 more years to do it.
Ron DeSantis is a piece of shit and a very weird person
Keep digging that hole Ron, you’re a great example of not learning from mistakes.
Such a weird tactic. It's like none of them have any idea how to campaign, and they haven't realized that Trump already has the right wing locked up. Campaigning to his right is a shortcut to irrelevance.
Most are campaigning for the VP spot or to pick up where trump will leave off if/when he’s brought to prison. They don’t need to win, they just need to be the last one standing because the MAGAts will vote for the R, not the candidate
I think he’s pursuing a campaign to be the lead leftover, if/when Trump strokes out or is unexpectedly laid low by a lawsuit.
Is that a surprise to anyone?
However, oddly enough, he said he is going to approve subsidies and interest free loans if you spend the money on baby shoes.
Florida Man
Doin' the things a Florida can.
Who needs public health?
Gotta cater to your crazies!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“Certainly, we’re not going to fund them,” the Florida Republican governor said during a wide-ranging interview with ABC News recorded Wednesday from Midland, Texas, where he announced his domestic energy policy.
The comment comes as DeSantis has ramped up his attacks in recent weeks on former President Donald Trump, the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination, over his administration’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic.
We’re going to hold people accountable and we’re going to ensure that in the United States, you’re never infringed upon by some health bureaucrat trying to take away your freedom,” DeSantis said in Spencer, Iowa, in late August.
As some limited, local mask mandates have returned, DeSantis held a roundtable last week on the new Covid-19 shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, where his surgeon general recommended people under 65 against receiving them.
The governor said the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention cannot be trusted – a response that elicited a prolonged on-air clarification about the scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of coronavirus vaccines from ABC anchor Linsey Davis.
Asked to contrast himself with Trump, DeSantis rattled off a list of differences, touching on their upbringings and early adult life while continuing to push pragmatic arguments about their capacity to serve.
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Look America, we need more leadership like this. Vaccines? What next, a living wage?? A consumer protection agency??! What’s wrong with you? John Fetterman was dressed like a hardworking, knowledgeable, worker today and that’s not what we’ve been about! We have been about protestant work ethic and child labor and that’s who we need to fight the next war we make up!!!
Well DeSantis is never going to get elected so he won't be able to implement that.
That being said, at what point do we cut funding for the vaccine? Why are we subsidizing a product that is making pharmaceutical companies tons of money? It's not like they are broke.
Additionally, when are we going to revoke the Emergency Use Authorization for these products?
Both Pfizer and Moderna got full approval for the original vaccines; I'm not sure if NovaVax is approved yet or not.
I believe that the newest formulations for Pfizer and Moderna are under EUA.
Oh that's good. I didn't see they had gotten the full approval.
I think there will need to be a point though where we determine that those who are not at risk don't need to get the vaccine and those at risk should still get it.
The pharmaceutical companies are pulling in tons of money based on the strong push that "everyone must get it". Unfortunately that money gets funneled into their lobbying power and thus continues the viscous cycle.
There is a reason the US provides approximately half the pharmaceutical sales in the world. https://www.statista.com/statistics/272181/world-pharmaceutical-sales-by-region/
For some odd reason that's not resulting in longer average lifespans. According to United Nations estimates, the US ranks 47th in life expectancy.
https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/
At some point we need to cut the pharmaceutical companies loose because we are not seeing our money's worth.