“Someone else offered much more, so what? Now they come up with something called ‘disgorgement.’ I never even heard of the term. WITCH HUNT!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!” Trump wrote.
Disgorgement is a remedy requiring a party who profits from illegal or wrongful acts to give up any profits they made as a result of that illegal or wrongful conduct. The purpose of this remedy is to prevent unjust enrichment and make illegal conduct unprofitable.
Congratulations, both me, you, and Donald Trump learned something new today.
I highly doubt Trump learned something from this
I'm sure Trump's familiar with engorgement, however...
You could have NOT put that in my head! 🤣
late 15th century: from Old French desgorger, from des- (expressing removal) + gorge ‘throat’.
He's smart enough to realize his own ignorance is probably shared by most of his cultists, so playing using his own ignorance to attack the the government is going to work perfectly every time. Basically, it's hard to sound like a fool if you're speaking to a bunch of fools.
I love that "idiot sons" is actually part of the real headline.
Nice to see more accuracy in news headlines
Not even quotation marks. Wow.
I'm a fan of New Republic but it's a silly headline, should have used the proper term "failson."
Sometimes I wonder what he expects to happen? Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify, everyone else who testified were listed as witnesses from the start, like did no explain to him what that list of people meant? I can't tell if this is just a trump thing, or an old person thing, or a billionaire thing where you can't understand simple ideas like, " these people know something about the case, they will testify under oath about it." Also, $15000 fine for breaking a gag order doesn't seem like the right punishment for a "billionaire". If it were me on trial that would put me in debt, but Trump is a billionaire, $15,000 is not going to affect his life that much. It seems like the consequences need to scale based on the individual if you actually want people to follow the gag order.
He's all about controlling the narrative. He wants his base to get pissed off because "the libs are going after his kids to get back at him."
But go ahead and ask him what he thinks about all the Hunter Biden investigations.
He also wanted the entire trial shut down long before it got to this, so he's railing against an inevitability that he tried to avoid.
but Trump is a billionaire,
well. he says he is. In this one case, lets take him at his word and charge 15 billion instead.
He's playing to his donors and staying in the headlines. He's pulling in millions in donations every time he complains. It's making a mockery of the judicial system and campaign finance to fleece his electorate. The gag order should have been much more broad.
Unfortunately dude still has rights, regardless of how many times he breaks the law, or makes a mockery of it.
While not with this case, because this case is civil, He's on felony pretrial release on 4? other cases. If virtually ANY other defendent had said any number of the things he said, that pretrial release would be revoked and he would be in jail pending trial. His rights are extremely limited in the situation he is in and it's well within the courts jurisdiction to limit the things he does all the way up to jailing him. That includes limiting his speech, house arrest, etc.
Eh, while not normal, the things he's said are rather typical of upset defendants, and most of those don't find themselves behind bars for it either. You could search social media for people on trial for a lot of crimes and find them saying substantially similar claims about the system, prosecutors, or judges targeting them or having it in for them.
His repeatedly engaging in various forms of fraud and intimidation provides a perfectly valid legal basis for those rights to be curtailed significantly.
UnFortunately, dude still has rights, regardless of how many times he breaks the law, or makes a mockery of it.
As much as I detest trump, I agree. Important for everyone to have their rights
I'm hoping that the $5,000 and $10,000 fines are the judge's way of making any future punishments appeal proof. M
If the judge went right to "jail Trump" on the first infraction, Trump could appeal and get the jail time reversed. What's more, Trump's lawyers might be able to allege that the judge was biased and get the whole thing tossed.
But if the judge starts slow and ramps up, it will be evident to any appeals court that the judge tried everything he could to avoid serious repercussions and Trump simply gave him no choice.
Yeah but it still totally sucks that Trump always gets the extra-super-fair-and-reasonable-wet-lettuce end of the stick.
Add an exponent after each one. Should have been 5000 the first time then multiply by an ever increasing number each time.
10000, 30000, 120000, 600000, 3.6m ,25.2m
He would have to stop by 3.6 million since that is probably more liquid cash then he has available.
Cheeto chimp is definitely not a billionaire. He's a lying, flim flam man.
Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify
That's boring though. With Trump he always has to turn it in to a spectacle, then the reporting amps it up even further ("melts down," just like a nuclear reactor!) That's how Trump's political brand was created in the first place.
Trump Melts Down… if only. I’d love to see him as a puddle.
"Trump on acid?"
"No, I said 'Trump in acid.'"
"Trump stoned?"
"No, Trump getting crushed under a pile of increasingly larger stones."
"Trump on crack"
"No, Trump having all his bones cracked"
Like that guy from the original Robocop movie, classic acid meltdown
Or Wizard of Oz's wicked witch.
Seriously now, why is he so upset that his kids have to testify? It's not like they're being arrested. All they have to do is get up there and (at least pretend to) tell the truth. What's so awful about that?
He's probably afraid that they'll slip up and prove that he really did everything that's been claimed, that has a mountain of evidence, and that he's already been found liable for.
Wouldn't you be worried if your entire financial well-being depended on Don Jr and Eric?
I'm hoping they ask questions that they know the kids will perjure themselves lying about and that they have proof that they know what the truth is.
He's losing. He's not talking to the court, he's talking to the "stand back and stand by" crowd.
Ffs put that crap heap of a sorry excuse for a human being in jail already. Preferably supermax, I recommend Terre Haute, Indiana. No, wait, a 250% booked medium security with hundreds of beds in a school gym. Yeah. That'll do.
He'd be the leader of some skin head gang by the end of the first day. Enjoying special privileges from prison staff that are believers. It would put him in direct contact with very dangerous people that idolize the image he's projected, people he wouldn't normally be caught dead talking to.
I'd prefer house arrest for him, keep him comfortable enough to prevent too much complaints. Isolated enough to prevent damage. No visitors, no internet, but lots of Big Macs and KFC. His very own Elba.
Wait wait wait, now that you mention Elba, don't we have a bunch of bird shit islands that we could build a house on and ship mcdonalds to for him?
I'd be fine with that as long as there's no wifi and we never hear from him again.
His very own Elba.
Read this as ebola at first and thought it took a delightful twist at the end.
I unfortunately agree: a former POTUS will never go to a regular prison. I'll settle for house arrest.
I know it will never happen, but I think he oughta be locked up at ADX Florence.
The Trump family and Musk are both prime examples of why you shouldn't pass on excessive wealth to your children. Your kids or grandkids will grow up to be complete idiots, or at least, they have a higher chance of it.
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice.
Trump is an idiot. Musk is evil. Musk didn't buy Xitter to make it better, despite his claim of being capable of making it more profitable. He bought it using a shitload of Saudi oil money in order to destroy one of the largest platforms for leftist voices in the western world. This wasn't just him blustering into a 25 billion dollar loss on Xitter. What Musk does is very intentional.
Eh. I'll agree to disagree. There's a reason the razor is the exact opposite, to first attribute to stupidity and then to malice.
There's no way Elon would've agreed to trash his reputation like this to kill Twitter. He's far too egotistical and craves worship.
Think about it this way.
He trashed the reputation he gained amongst well educated millenials to look good in the eyes of the same people who voted for Trump.
What's more important as a billionaire narcissist? Constantly having to navigate your support base, a support base you inherently disagree with, or developing one that will support you no matter what you do?
Idk, food for thought.
Yes, but his business model's primary target is well educated millennials. I know I'm not the only one who went from thinking of getting a Tesla as my next car to looking at what competitors have.
No reason he couldn't be both stupid and malicious.
Hm, I thought lots of boomers and Gen Xers were the ones that could afford them the most, though.
Mmmm tasty narcissism...
Agreed. I think he's not even 1/10th as smart as his fanbois seem to think he is. I think he also set out to life the voices of the alt-right, though.
But I bet he didn't think his purchase would be worth less than half a year after he bought it and completely mismanaged it.
I can't think of Eric trump without thinking of the SNL skits
Anyone wondering where his sons inherited that stupid gene from?
Congratulations, both me, you, and Donald Trump learned something new today.
I highly doubt Trump learned something from this
I'm sure Trump's familiar with engorgement, however...
You could have NOT put that in my head! 🤣
He's smart enough to realize his own ignorance is probably shared by most of his cultists, so playing using his own ignorance to attack the the government is going to work perfectly every time. Basically, it's hard to sound like a fool if you're speaking to a bunch of fools.
I love that "idiot sons" is actually part of the real headline.
Nice to see more accuracy in news headlines
Not even quotation marks. Wow.
I'm a fan of New Republic but it's a silly headline, should have used the proper term "failson."
Sometimes I wonder what he expects to happen? Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify, everyone else who testified were listed as witnesses from the start, like did no explain to him what that list of people meant? I can't tell if this is just a trump thing, or an old person thing, or a billionaire thing where you can't understand simple ideas like, " these people know something about the case, they will testify under oath about it." Also, $15000 fine for breaking a gag order doesn't seem like the right punishment for a "billionaire". If it were me on trial that would put me in debt, but Trump is a billionaire, $15,000 is not going to affect his life that much. It seems like the consequences need to scale based on the individual if you actually want people to follow the gag order.
He's all about controlling the narrative. He wants his base to get pissed off because "the libs are going after his kids to get back at him."
But go ahead and ask him what he thinks about all the Hunter Biden investigations.
He also wanted the entire trial shut down long before it got to this, so he's railing against an inevitability that he tried to avoid.
well. he says he is. In this one case, lets take him at his word and charge 15 billion instead.
He's playing to his donors and staying in the headlines. He's pulling in millions in donations every time he complains. It's making a mockery of the judicial system and campaign finance to fleece his electorate. The gag order should have been much more broad.
Unfortunately dude still has rights, regardless of how many times he breaks the law, or makes a mockery of it.
While not with this case, because this case is civil, He's on felony pretrial release on 4? other cases. If virtually ANY other defendent had said any number of the things he said, that pretrial release would be revoked and he would be in jail pending trial. His rights are extremely limited in the situation he is in and it's well within the courts jurisdiction to limit the things he does all the way up to jailing him. That includes limiting his speech, house arrest, etc.
Eh, while not normal, the things he's said are rather typical of upset defendants, and most of those don't find themselves behind bars for it either. You could search social media for people on trial for a lot of crimes and find them saying substantially similar claims about the system, prosecutors, or judges targeting them or having it in for them.
His repeatedly engaging in various forms of fraud and intimidation provides a perfectly valid legal basis for those rights to be curtailed significantly.
UnFortunately, dude still has rights, regardless of how many times he breaks the law, or makes a mockery of it.As much as I detest trump, I agree. Important for everyone to have their rights
Agree completely. Good comment
I'm hoping that the $5,000 and $10,000 fines are the judge's way of making any future punishments appeal proof. M
If the judge went right to "jail Trump" on the first infraction, Trump could appeal and get the jail time reversed. What's more, Trump's lawyers might be able to allege that the judge was biased and get the whole thing tossed.
But if the judge starts slow and ramps up, it will be evident to any appeals court that the judge tried everything he could to avoid serious repercussions and Trump simply gave him no choice.
Yeah but it still totally sucks that Trump always gets the extra-super-fair-and-reasonable-wet-lettuce end of the stick.
Add an exponent after each one. Should have been 5000 the first time then multiply by an ever increasing number each time. 10000, 30000, 120000, 600000, 3.6m ,25.2m
He would have to stop by 3.6 million since that is probably more liquid cash then he has available.
Cheeto chimp is definitely not a billionaire. He's a lying, flim flam man.
That's boring though. With Trump he always has to turn it in to a spectacle, then the reporting amps it up even further ("melts down," just like a nuclear reactor!) That's how Trump's political brand was created in the first place.
Trump Melts Down… if only. I’d love to see him as a puddle.
"Trump on acid?"
"No, I said 'Trump in acid.'"
"Trump stoned?"
"No, Trump getting crushed under a pile of increasingly larger stones."
"Trump on crack" "No, Trump having all his bones cracked"
Like that guy from the original Robocop movie, classic acid meltdown
Or Wizard of Oz's wicked witch.
Seriously now, why is he so upset that his kids have to testify? It's not like they're being arrested. All they have to do is get up there and (at least pretend to) tell the truth. What's so awful about that?
He's probably afraid that they'll slip up and prove that he really did everything that's been claimed, that has a mountain of evidence, and that he's already been found liable for.
Wouldn't you be worried if your entire financial well-being depended on Don Jr and Eric?
I'm hoping they ask questions that they know the kids will perjure themselves lying about and that they have proof that they know what the truth is.
He's losing. He's not talking to the court, he's talking to the "stand back and stand by" crowd.
Ffs put that crap heap of a sorry excuse for a human being in jail already. Preferably supermax, I recommend Terre Haute, Indiana. No, wait, a 250% booked medium security with hundreds of beds in a school gym. Yeah. That'll do.
He'd be the leader of some skin head gang by the end of the first day. Enjoying special privileges from prison staff that are believers. It would put him in direct contact with very dangerous people that idolize the image he's projected, people he wouldn't normally be caught dead talking to.
I'd prefer house arrest for him, keep him comfortable enough to prevent too much complaints. Isolated enough to prevent damage. No visitors, no internet, but lots of Big Macs and KFC. His very own Elba.
Wait wait wait, now that you mention Elba, don't we have a bunch of bird shit islands that we could build a house on and ship mcdonalds to for him?
I'd be fine with that as long as there's no wifi and we never hear from him again.
Read this as ebola at first and thought it took a delightful twist at the end.
I unfortunately agree: a former POTUS will never go to a regular prison. I'll settle for house arrest.
I know it will never happen, but I think he oughta be locked up at ADX Florence.
The Trump family and Musk are both prime examples of why you shouldn't pass on excessive wealth to your children. Your kids or grandkids will grow up to be complete idiots, or at least, they have a higher chance of it.
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice.
Trump is an idiot. Musk is evil. Musk didn't buy Xitter to make it better, despite his claim of being capable of making it more profitable. He bought it using a shitload of Saudi oil money in order to destroy one of the largest platforms for leftist voices in the western world. This wasn't just him blustering into a 25 billion dollar loss on Xitter. What Musk does is very intentional.
Eh. I'll agree to disagree. There's a reason the razor is the exact opposite, to first attribute to stupidity and then to malice.
There's no way Elon would've agreed to trash his reputation like this to kill Twitter. He's far too egotistical and craves worship.
Think about it this way.
He trashed the reputation he gained amongst well educated millenials to look good in the eyes of the same people who voted for Trump.
What's more important as a billionaire narcissist? Constantly having to navigate your support base, a support base you inherently disagree with, or developing one that will support you no matter what you do?
Idk, food for thought.
Yes, but his business model's primary target is well educated millennials. I know I'm not the only one who went from thinking of getting a Tesla as my next car to looking at what competitors have.
No reason he couldn't be both stupid and malicious.
Hm, I thought lots of boomers and Gen Xers were the ones that could afford them the most, though.
Mmmm tasty narcissism...
Agreed. I think he's not even 1/10th as smart as his fanbois seem to think he is. I think he also set out to life the voices of the alt-right, though.
But I bet he didn't think his purchase would be worth less than half a year after he bought it and completely mismanaged it.
I can't think of Eric trump without thinking of the SNL skits
Anyone wondering where his sons inherited that stupid gene from?
No
Idiot is an understatement
Rage more Orange man. We love it!
The butthurt is strong with this one.