In case it's not painfully obvious, this is a parody account.
The author here makes it sound like contracting mumps and/or encephalitis is a "choice." But what they leave out, an important detail.... like how about a child's natural immunity?!? Besides, you don't want an injection to cause autism or worse, a peanut allergy that deprives your young child from the joys of peanut butter jelly sandwiches for the rest of their life.
Realistically, aren't we all a little tired of big pharma shoving these hard-to-pronounce ingredients and microchips into our God-given flesh?! So I challenge you, to do the research and truly decipher the right choice for your young children. It's critically important; vaccine injuries can happen. Just look at what happened in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
If you're the real guy, I am so happy to see you here.
Even if he is the guy let's not let this be like reddit where if someone else does the meme they get down voted. Anything reddit did can fuck off here in our new place.
The weirdest thing about this whole antivaxx movement is that it has spread to Europe too. Greece has conscription, so 90%+ of greek males have served in the greek military. And almost all of them got vaccinated with a trillion vaccines, including ones against gozzila(you can never be too safe). And thats on top of whatever vaccines babies usually receive.
Noone complained about it. There was some antivaxx movement before but with covid, everyone went crazy with the vaccines. Suddenly vaccines were evil, noone knew what they had in them, it's a global conspiracy. Everyone became a vaccine expert.
America needs to stop exporting their brain rot, we already have enough on our own.
No one complained about it because there wasn't a national, or global, effort telling people to blindly rebel against it.
It's the hive mind hardcore right mindset these days. Drum up something for the pawns to run around screaming and they will willingly volunteer their time, money, freedom, and lives so the elites running the movement can retain wealth and power
Don't blame america, blame the media moguls
not all of them are american, in fact the worst of them is aussie
Nah mate, he's been American longer than he was ever Aussie, he gave up our citizenship for the greater opportunities he'd have to exploit everyone from the US.
yeah, so rich people from other countries come to the us to make us look bad
see: elon musk
Of course they do, the US makes it so easy for them to be a piece of shit and successful.
Stupidity, ignorance, and hysteria aren't unique to America. The USA just has the loudest voice in traditional/social media.
You say it spread to Europe from the U.S., but it's kind of the other way around. The whole anti-vaxx movement was—although not started—heavily popularized by Andrew Wakefield, a medical scientist who very publicly brought criticism against the MMR vaccine (with an unethical study which lied about the condition of many of his patients) about it potentially causing autism. Remember, not too many years ago being autistic was seen as something so much worse than it is. In the meantime, he was being very privately paid off to produce a study for a lawyer who wanted proof that a certain vaccine could have caused medical complications, so he could win a law suit.
There was a huge vaccine scare in Europe about MMR, and eventually it spread to America. However, as the anti-MMR-vaccine idea spread, it grew to become anti-vaccine. Wakefield, now rejected from the scientific community, had little other way to stay afloat financially than by pandering to his audience, shifting his message from anti-MMR to anti-vaxx.
Although if you're talking about COVID vaccine fears, I know much less, it absolutely could have started in the U.S.
For sure instead of having your child scarred for life from a vaccine like the picture shows, a mild case of death is preferable.
Stay safe out there, vaccines contain stuff with long words that sound dangerous. There are also many rumors that vaccines can cause all sorts of weird things you wouldn't believe.
In case you wonder, this is sarcasm.
A nice side effect is that your child never ages? Such a gift
Also mild case of collateral infant death is much more preferable. Ain’t my kids anyway.
My coworker's cousin got a vaccine once and later they dropped their cell phone and cracked the screen. Coincidence, or proof of the evils of vaccination?
My god! The same thing happened to me but it had been years since my last vaccination. Proof that they stay in your body for a very long time.
Was it a Huawei phone? Possible Chinese conspiracy.
Must have been the magnetisms that caused them to dorp the phone!! Many people still don't believe this despite all the EVIDENSE!!! I thought science was meant to be do your own research?!
I can say for a fact that before I got my vaccines as a baby I had never experienced things like back pains and knee issues that I know face in middle age. People ignore the risks
I have a vax scar that looks exactly like this. It's not the MMR as this tweet claims; I had that one too and there is no scar. This was a smallpox vax, which do commonly leave a mark, and I got it when I was five. I don't remember, but I've been told I was sick for a week.
Clearly, I recovered. Maybe that colors my view on this issue, I dunno.
But to truly understand the position of the individual that tweeted this, go look up some pics of actual smallpox cases, and then visit Wikipedia to learn about how many die right off the bat (some with horrible variations like hemorrhagic smallpox) and how many others survive, many with only massive scarring, but others with lasting internal damage and little-understood post-viral syndromes.
I like a further way to put it into perspective and to show how far as global society we haven fallen since:
The WHO launched its vaccination campaign against smallpox in 1958 and it lastet until 1977. So during the height of the cold war the West, the Sovjets, China and all of the Third world came together, to get everyone vaccinated. While pointing nuclear weapons at each other they all still understood what a shitty disease that is and worked together on this issue, because they all saw it as a responsibilty to rid the world of that disease.
And they fucking did it. They vaccinated almost everyone in the world so the disease is considered extinct. Today we get Karen instead who'd rather have half the elderly in her community die, than wear a mask while shopping.
Well, right now I regret wearing a mask during covid because the elders are getting us all the shit right now with authoritarian liberalism and anti-climate protests.
My mother also got the smallpox vaccine and had a permanent scar from it. I pointed it out as a small child and she told me about it, I asked my dad and he had one too. I thought it was cool, like a rite of passage where one day I'd be old enough to get my own permanent vaccine scar. But then they had to go and eradicate smallpox, saving countless lives. Bummer, dude.
Don't fret youngster, with the way people are, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon enough.
I have two theories.
A bunch of these people are scared of needles and are looking for any excuse not to get a needle. They don't want to feel alone so they spread lies so others don't get it either.
They want people die and get off on that.
Some are really that irrevocably convinced that vaccines are the harmful thing. They don't know how to question things properly and they end up following whatever lead they got hooked to. It's a failure of modern education and society to fail to question things correctly. Questioning without logic or reason or being willing to accept you are wrong is unproductive at finding truth. However it's a potent way towards confirmation bias.
They also might just not understand the answer. Like the "risk" they claim is a possibility, the side-effects are real. But the part they never seem to bring up is that the possibility of those severe side-effects is generally less than 1 in 10 000. Instead they talk about it like it's a near-guaranteed outcome.
Yeah there is definitely that side of it too. If they only understood the amount of risk they take on a daily basis. It's incomparable.
I think its mostly snake oil sellers and their radicalized victims. The flatmate of my girlfriend was an anti vaccers. She bought some extract from local plants for a 100 € because the guy told her it would soak up the vaccine from the body when there will be mandatory vaccinations.
Of course there were no mandatory vaccinations, having some hobo made tincture working against an mRNA vaccine is clearly ridicilous and she could have collected these plants in the next park and made the extract with some high proof alcohol for less than 5€.
One of the leaders of the covid conspiracy movement in Germany fled to Tansanie having defrauded his followers of more than 10.000.000 €
If you look into conspiracy products it is insane. Some wooden pole with some Glass balls in it? Yeah thats some energy protector, only 6.000 €
You left out the troll farms run by the enemies of Western liberal democracy.
And if we trace the source of these conspiracy theory lunatics/scammers, it all comes back to social media. Arguably, that's a worse disease than smallpox or covid.
I think almost everyone from S. Korea and other parts of Asia have that small pox vaccine scar on that top part of their arm. American soldiers that deployed overseas all have that small pox vaccine scar as well. Taking vaccines and medication is basically mandatory for military.
Yes, such that they'll bounce back given a few days, weeks, months, years tops.
Oh yeah, like in The Princess Bride! He was only mostly dead.
Or like in Top Secret
Let me know if there is any change in his condition
Ha!! Fuckin’ awesome movie. Like, a billion jokes packed in every minute.
The South African conspiracy crowd is crazy fucking stupid. It ranges from "Pokémon Go is from the devil" to "Apartheid wasn't that bad, actually".
They eat up the American conspiracies too. Why the fuck is 52 year old Margriet from Roodepoort in a QAnon Telegram group chat? Fuck knows
Because America's #1 export is US culture.
I wish they chose taco trucks or baseball instead of believing Joe Biden is satanic vampire
“Apartheid wasn’t that bad, actually”.
The "Apartheid wasn’t that bad, actually” crowd is by no means limited to the "conspiracy fallcy" scene in South Africa - a very, very large proportion of white liberal types in South Africa buys into this narrative without admitting to it even to themselves. There's a good reason some refer to the DA as "National Party Lite."
Wappies lol
Antivaxers are an absolute scourge on society.
So I love the sentiment, but this is not a mumps vaccine scar. This is either from the smallpox or TB (BCG) vaccines. Important to get it right or your local anti-vax types will seize the error and use it like a cudgel.
Give us freedom to die from a preventable death or give us death!
Cat: loads rifle and syringe get your shots, or get shot.
You can never tell with some people if there joking or serious
"mild cases of death" - If you thought this serious I think that's on you lol
This one is a verified parody account, but I know what you mean.
I had mumps when I was 27. Somehow I was too early for the UK vaccine, but too late for the US vaccine. When I had it, my neck swelled up so I had no chin. I remember being in agony, walking downstairs in the morning to limp around, then going upstairs to the toilet. When I got up there I would see myself in the mirror and say "ribbit" and laugh at my neck. Which itself caused agony.
All because a fellow student from South Africa hadn't been vaccinated, caught it, and spread it to me.
I haven't since impregnated a girl, so I guess I got that going for me.
I worked with someone years ago that had it twice as a kid. Bio kids are off the table for him.
I wish to offer eloquently worded condolences or congratulations in regards to the potential long term effects in accordance with your desires, but I'm fighting a losing battle with words here. I think you get the idea though.
I once thought I had a mild case of death but it turns out I was just tired. But you won't see me taking any vaccines. No, sir. I just like shots. Like, a lot. As soon as a COVID booster is available, I will be first in line. And they're free.
Dying never killed anyone
Governments need to create “weird shit” agency’s. We need people being visited by men in black, weird encounters in the middle of nowhere, scare some lake fishermen, start up number stations again, set off a bomb in the middle of the Black Forest…
Since this stuff dropped out of mainstream media I think it’s why the nutters have moved on to vaccines and big pharma. We need to feed these people less harmful tripe.
Now that all the actors and screen writers are on strike, maybe they can do side-gigs for a secret government agency - bring back Project Bluebook to create UFOs again
"The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed!"
My dad had a huge TB vaccine scar on his arm from when he got it in the 40s or 50s. Guess what would have been worse? Dying of TB.
Prof Tim Hoax. xD
i have that thing too
You know people say regardless how stupid it is, it’s not ethical to force a vaccine on someone. Okay fine. But I think anyone who refuses to be vaccinated (assuming there’s no medical reason), should spend their life in prison.
Nobody says you have to be forced to get a vaccine… bodily autonomy and all that. But you’re then making yourself into a public health hazard. So you need to be quarantined until you’re no longer a danger to society; so, until you either get vaccinated or die, you need to be separated from the rest of society.
Prison doesn't feel right. It'd expose other prisoners and we're responsible for their safety while incarcerated.
Maybe we could stick them all on an island somewhere?
This is literally where the word quarantine comes from. Venice would stick people on an island for 40 days, and if you were still alive, they'd let you into the city. Bubonic plague man.
Man, the next season of Love Island is gonna be interesting...
You know, it's actually not painful obviously, sadly.
Can never be sure in today's world...
I refuse to believe that isn’t a satire account…
“Mild cases of death” would suggest that’s the case.
It would be the mild case though.
Just like the body of this post, I'm fairly certain a majority of these kinds of posts are parody or fake trying to get a rise out of people
But that's a smallpox vaccine scar?
You mean, PERMANENT VACCINE INJURY. /s
Just imagine a largepox vaccine scar then...
Posting in a thread of people who took the Covid Vaccine. lmao.
The author here makes it sound like contracting mumps and/or encephalitis is a "choice." But what they leave out, an important detail.... like how about a child's natural immunity?!? Besides, you don't want an injection to cause autism or worse, a peanut allergy that deprives your young child from the joys of peanut butter jelly sandwiches for the rest of their life.
Realistically, aren't we all a little tired of big pharma shoving these hard-to-pronounce ingredients and microchips into our God-given flesh?! So I challenge you, to do the research and truly decipher the right choice for your young children. It's critically important; vaccine injuries can happen. Just look at what happened in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
If you're the real guy, I am so happy to see you here.
Even if he is the guy let's not let this be like reddit where if someone else does the meme they get down voted. Anything reddit did can fuck off here in our new place.
You bastard.
/s
The weirdest thing about this whole antivaxx movement is that it has spread to Europe too. Greece has conscription, so 90%+ of greek males have served in the greek military. And almost all of them got vaccinated with a trillion vaccines, including ones against gozzila(you can never be too safe). And thats on top of whatever vaccines babies usually receive.
Noone complained about it. There was some antivaxx movement before but with covid, everyone went crazy with the vaccines. Suddenly vaccines were evil, noone knew what they had in them, it's a global conspiracy. Everyone became a vaccine expert.
America needs to stop exporting their brain rot, we already have enough on our own.
No one complained about it because there wasn't a national, or global, effort telling people to blindly rebel against it.
It's the hive mind hardcore right mindset these days. Drum up something for the pawns to run around screaming and they will willingly volunteer their time, money, freedom, and lives so the elites running the movement can retain wealth and power
Don't blame america, blame the media moguls
not all of them are american, in fact the worst of them is aussie
Nah mate, he's been American longer than he was ever Aussie, he gave up our citizenship for the greater opportunities he'd have to exploit everyone from the US.
yeah, so rich people from other countries come to the us to make us look bad
see: elon musk
Of course they do, the US makes it so easy for them to be a piece of shit and successful.
Stupidity, ignorance, and hysteria aren't unique to America. The USA just has the loudest voice in traditional/social media.
You say it spread to Europe from the U.S., but it's kind of the other way around. The whole anti-vaxx movement was—although not started—heavily popularized by Andrew Wakefield, a medical scientist who very publicly brought criticism against the MMR vaccine (with an unethical study which lied about the condition of many of his patients) about it potentially causing autism. Remember, not too many years ago being autistic was seen as something so much worse than it is. In the meantime, he was being very privately paid off to produce a study for a lawyer who wanted proof that a certain vaccine could have caused medical complications, so he could win a law suit. There was a huge vaccine scare in Europe about MMR, and eventually it spread to America. However, as the anti-MMR-vaccine idea spread, it grew to become anti-vaccine. Wakefield, now rejected from the scientific community, had little other way to stay afloat financially than by pandering to his audience, shifting his message from anti-MMR to anti-vaxx.
Relevant video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc (seriously, great vid, please watch if you have the time)
Relevant book: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Fooled-World-Deception/dp/1421438003 (seriously, great book, please read if you have the time)
Although if you're talking about COVID vaccine fears, I know much less, it absolutely could have started in the U.S.
For sure instead of having your child scarred for life from a vaccine like the picture shows, a mild case of death is preferable.
Stay safe out there, vaccines contain stuff with long words that sound dangerous. There are also many rumors that vaccines can cause all sorts of weird things you wouldn't believe.
In case you wonder, this is sarcasm.
A nice side effect is that your child never ages? Such a gift
Also mild case of collateral infant death is much more preferable. Ain’t my kids anyway.
My coworker's cousin got a vaccine once and later they dropped their cell phone and cracked the screen. Coincidence, or proof of the evils of vaccination?
My god! The same thing happened to me but it had been years since my last vaccination. Proof that they stay in your body for a very long time.
Was it a Huawei phone? Possible Chinese conspiracy.
Must have been the magnetisms that caused them to dorp the phone!! Many people still don't believe this despite all the EVIDENSE!!! I thought science was meant to be do your own research?!
I can say for a fact that before I got my vaccines as a baby I had never experienced things like back pains and knee issues that I know face in middle age. People ignore the risks
I have a vax scar that looks exactly like this. It's not the MMR as this tweet claims; I had that one too and there is no scar. This was a smallpox vax, which do commonly leave a mark, and I got it when I was five. I don't remember, but I've been told I was sick for a week.
Clearly, I recovered. Maybe that colors my view on this issue, I dunno.
But to truly understand the position of the individual that tweeted this, go look up some pics of actual smallpox cases, and then visit Wikipedia to learn about how many die right off the bat (some with horrible variations like hemorrhagic smallpox) and how many others survive, many with only massive scarring, but others with lasting internal damage and little-understood post-viral syndromes.
And then, now that you have a better idea of what smallpox is, reflect on how these anti-vaxxers would literally rather have smallpox, and see their kids have smallpox, than brave a preventative vaccine that has worked well for over two hundred years in one form or another.
I will never understand that.
I like a further way to put it into perspective and to show how far as global society we haven fallen since:
The WHO launched its vaccination campaign against smallpox in 1958 and it lastet until 1977. So during the height of the cold war the West, the Sovjets, China and all of the Third world came together, to get everyone vaccinated. While pointing nuclear weapons at each other they all still understood what a shitty disease that is and worked together on this issue, because they all saw it as a responsibilty to rid the world of that disease.
And they fucking did it. They vaccinated almost everyone in the world so the disease is considered extinct. Today we get Karen instead who'd rather have half the elderly in her community die, than wear a mask while shopping.
Well, right now I regret wearing a mask during covid because the elders are getting us all the shit right now with authoritarian liberalism and anti-climate protests.
My mother also got the smallpox vaccine and had a permanent scar from it. I pointed it out as a small child and she told me about it, I asked my dad and he had one too. I thought it was cool, like a rite of passage where one day I'd be old enough to get my own permanent vaccine scar. But then they had to go and eradicate smallpox, saving countless lives. Bummer, dude.
Don't fret youngster, with the way people are, I'm sure there'll be another one along soon enough.
I have two theories.
A bunch of these people are scared of needles and are looking for any excuse not to get a needle. They don't want to feel alone so they spread lies so others don't get it either.
They want people die and get off on that.
Some are really that irrevocably convinced that vaccines are the harmful thing. They don't know how to question things properly and they end up following whatever lead they got hooked to. It's a failure of modern education and society to fail to question things correctly. Questioning without logic or reason or being willing to accept you are wrong is unproductive at finding truth. However it's a potent way towards confirmation bias.
They also might just not understand the answer. Like the "risk" they claim is a possibility, the side-effects are real. But the part they never seem to bring up is that the possibility of those severe side-effects is generally less than 1 in 10 000. Instead they talk about it like it's a near-guaranteed outcome.
Yeah there is definitely that side of it too. If they only understood the amount of risk they take on a daily basis. It's incomparable.
I think its mostly snake oil sellers and their radicalized victims. The flatmate of my girlfriend was an anti vaccers. She bought some extract from local plants for a 100 € because the guy told her it would soak up the vaccine from the body when there will be mandatory vaccinations.
Of course there were no mandatory vaccinations, having some hobo made tincture working against an mRNA vaccine is clearly ridicilous and she could have collected these plants in the next park and made the extract with some high proof alcohol for less than 5€.
One of the leaders of the covid conspiracy movement in Germany fled to Tansanie having defrauded his followers of more than 10.000.000 €
If you look into conspiracy products it is insane. Some wooden pole with some Glass balls in it? Yeah thats some energy protector, only 6.000 €
You left out the troll farms run by the enemies of Western liberal democracy.
And if we trace the source of these conspiracy theory lunatics/scammers, it all comes back to social media. Arguably, that's a worse disease than smallpox or covid.
I think almost everyone from S. Korea and other parts of Asia have that small pox vaccine scar on that top part of their arm. American soldiers that deployed overseas all have that small pox vaccine scar as well. Taking vaccines and medication is basically mandatory for military.
Mild cases of death???
As in, they are not too serious.
Yes, such that they'll bounce back given a few days, weeks, months, years tops.
Oh yeah, like in The Princess Bride! He was only mostly dead.
Or like in Top Secret
Ha!! Fuckin’ awesome movie. Like, a billion jokes packed in every minute.
The South African conspiracy crowd is crazy fucking stupid. It ranges from "Pokémon Go is from the devil" to "Apartheid wasn't that bad, actually".
They eat up the American conspiracies too. Why the fuck is 52 year old Margriet from Roodepoort in a QAnon Telegram group chat? Fuck knows
Because America's #1 export is US culture.
I wish they chose taco trucks or baseball instead of believing Joe Biden is satanic vampire
The "Apartheid wasn’t that bad, actually” crowd is by no means limited to the "conspiracy fallcy" scene in South Africa - a very, very large proportion of white liberal types in South Africa buys into this narrative without admitting to it even to themselves. There's a good reason some refer to the DA as "National Party Lite."
Wappies lol
Antivaxers are an absolute scourge on society.
So I love the sentiment, but this is not a mumps vaccine scar. This is either from the smallpox or TB (BCG) vaccines. Important to get it right or your local anti-vax types will seize the error and use it like a cudgel.
Give us freedom to die from a preventable death or give us death!
Cat: loads rifle and syringe get your shots, or get shot.
You can never tell with some people if there joking or serious
"mild cases of death" - If you thought this serious I think that's on you lol
This one is a verified parody account, but I know what you mean.
I had mumps when I was 27. Somehow I was too early for the UK vaccine, but too late for the US vaccine. When I had it, my neck swelled up so I had no chin. I remember being in agony, walking downstairs in the morning to limp around, then going upstairs to the toilet. When I got up there I would see myself in the mirror and say "ribbit" and laugh at my neck. Which itself caused agony.
All because a fellow student from South Africa hadn't been vaccinated, caught it, and spread it to me.
I haven't since impregnated a girl, so I guess I got that going for me.
I worked with someone years ago that had it twice as a kid. Bio kids are off the table for him.
I wish to offer eloquently worded condolences or congratulations in regards to the potential long term effects in accordance with your desires, but I'm fighting a losing battle with words here. I think you get the idea though.
I once thought I had a mild case of death but it turns out I was just tired. But you won't see me taking any vaccines. No, sir. I just like shots. Like, a lot. As soon as a COVID booster is available, I will be first in line. And they're free.
Dying never killed anyone
Governments need to create “weird shit” agency’s. We need people being visited by men in black, weird encounters in the middle of nowhere, scare some lake fishermen, start up number stations again, set off a bomb in the middle of the Black Forest…
Since this stuff dropped out of mainstream media I think it’s why the nutters have moved on to vaccines and big pharma. We need to feed these people less harmful tripe.
Now that all the actors and screen writers are on strike, maybe they can do side-gigs for a secret government agency - bring back Project Bluebook to create UFOs again
That was quick 👀
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-66220494
Okay, you might be on to something.
Hoakes = hoax? Like hidden satire/parody?
yes
sweet release of death ... ah shit nvm
is there are /2meirl4meirl on lemmy?
"The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed!"
My dad had a huge TB vaccine scar on his arm from when he got it in the 40s or 50s. Guess what would have been worse? Dying of TB.
i have that thing too
You know people say regardless how stupid it is, it’s not ethical to force a vaccine on someone. Okay fine. But I think anyone who refuses to be vaccinated (assuming there’s no medical reason), should spend their life in prison.
Nobody says you have to be forced to get a vaccine… bodily autonomy and all that. But you’re then making yourself into a public health hazard. So you need to be quarantined until you’re no longer a danger to society; so, until you either get vaccinated or die, you need to be separated from the rest of society.
Prison doesn't feel right. It'd expose other prisoners and we're responsible for their safety while incarcerated.
Maybe we could stick them all on an island somewhere?
This is literally where the word quarantine comes from. Venice would stick people on an island for 40 days, and if you were still alive, they'd let you into the city. Bubonic plague man.
Man, the next season of Love Island is gonna be interesting...
You know, it's actually not painful obviously, sadly.
Can never be sure in today's world...
I refuse to believe that isn’t a satire account…
“Mild cases of death” would suggest that’s the case.
It would be the mild case though.
Just like the body of this post, I'm fairly certain a majority of these kinds of posts are parody or fake trying to get a rise out of people
But that's a smallpox vaccine scar?
You mean, PERMANENT VACCINE INJURY. /s
Just imagine a largepox vaccine scar then...
Posting in a thread of people who took the Covid Vaccine. lmao.