Donald Trump's "foamy saliva" in campaign video raises questions

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Donald Trump's "foamy saliva" in campaign video raises questions
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I don't wish death to anybody but, if he croaks of dementia before November it would be pretty funny.

Moms Mabely practically wrote his epitaph: “They say you shouldn't say nothin' about the dead unless it's good. He's dead. Good.”

My only concern is that they'd decide he's a martyr and claim the deep state killed him.....

Seriously, is there no way out of this bs?

I try to look at it like this: before 2016, I thought this level of hatred, bigotry and cruelty was an outlier in the right. That most of them just wanted tax cuts and weren't hood wearing racists. I've since learned that the "outliers" are the party and the "moderates" are the actual outliers.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them." Maya Angelou.

You are white I take it? This was obvious to me (as a mixed race but not white passing person, with a very foreign sounding name) since before the GW years.

Yes. Like many other suburban white folk, I had an all too naive view on racial issues. While I didn't think all racist issues had been solved, I didn't realize how bad things actually were.

I appreciate your honesty here. I keenly remember the post 9/11 rhetoric being the big driver for my immigrant father to stop voting republican, unfortunately for many it takes something really hitting home in order to recognize what was there all along.

No. It doesnt matter when or how he dies its going to be thought to have been the deep state. I mean some of these people believee JFK and JFK Jr are still alive and will come back to rally for Trump.

We are doomed

A bolt of lightning striking him in front of a church with many cameras present

If he croaks first of all Id be partying but I'd also think this make the election even more of a crap shoot as many light conservatives will go with the Republican candidate instead of Biden or abstaining, not to mention Bidens campaign centers how bad Trump is, if hes gone there goes the effect of millions of campaign dollars.

Too good for him, instead we watch him getting increasingly unhinged while his empire crumbles, and while he loses elections and the felonies pile up.

If he dies of natural causes before the election, no one that supports him, which is roughly half the country by the way, will believe it, and domestic violence will dramatically increase as well paranoid conspiracy theories.

I frankly hope he stays alive and is somehow, miraculously beaten by a significant margin.

If he's dead he can't provoke a civil war.

Oh sweet summer child.

Hugo Chávez once said "I'm more dangerous dead than alive" and he was right. Look at the chaos in Venezuela right now.

We can go further back in time: Christianity.

He's already laid the groundwork. Get a few talking heads "just asking questions" and violence will happen.

Why would it be funny?

I'm genuinely curious, and I know explaining a joke is to ruin it.

Edit: downvoted by people who take things way too seriously. I hate Trump, in case it needs to be said.

Edit 2: lol!

Trump has been saying that Biden is mentally unfit for office for the entire campaign. I always assume that everything Trump says is projection, though, so every time Biden is accused of having dementia by Trump it makes me more certain that Trump has it.

Same way he went around (and still goes around) saying his opponents need to be locked up, yet he is the one with the felony conviction.

Heh. It would be funny and ironic.

Yet, I wish him a long, long life - in prison.

Doubtful. If he loses this election we'll suddenly find out that all this vicious slander about him being mentally unsound, incontinent, and syphilitic is actually true, and is justification for him to never see a day in an actual prison, even if he loses all his other cases.

I'd rather he were dead already.

If he dies, he gains martyr status. Look at what happened when Hugo Chávez died.

True, I didn't mean I wanted him to die, I just want him to be already dead

Because after so many years of ass licking, he is the only chance the republicans have of holding the oval office in the foreseeable future. That and also the reactions and the meltdown of his cult would probably be funny as hell.

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Rabies

That would be hilarious, in a really cynical way. I’m just imagining a literally rabid Republican candidate campaigning. MAGAers would probably stop drinking water in solidarity and we’d get to really test out that “I could shoot someone on fifth avenue” theory, but with biting on campaign stops.

It would be a great opportunity for someone to sell a "Bite Me Trump" shirt. Supporters would wear it for its litteral meaning and opponent would wear it for the sarcastic meaning.

Also, pirates who like teethy BJs would wear it so people know what they're into.

Republicans would go out and get rabies in solidarity. They'd say it wasn't dangerous. It'd fuck up medical stats so hard.

Think of the benefits to rabies research. So few people actually catch it and - in America - are rich enough that timely treatment is an option they feel free to pursue.

I would be soooo triggered if they all gave each other rabies! We must passionately and logically talk them out of it, you guys!

I'm just picturing the morons lining up to be bitten by him. That would be such an ironic twist of history.

I want to see this variation of a zombie movie.

Patient zero is a prominent politician.

His handlers continue to puppet him, because they already spent so much on his campaign.

Followers literally line up to be bitten and infected.

If you had made this ten years ago, everybody would have said it's totally unrealistic. But now it's just slightly exaggerated.

I'd go as far to say that it's depressingly plausible.

That would make a great black comedy.

"Real men have rabbies"

"It's time we elected a rabid President"

On the bright side, it would be a problem that would eventually fix itself.

Rabies is a hoax, just a mild flu, and also a bioweapon personally engineered by Dr. Fauci to force a global reset of the economy. (But giving trillions to corporates that just received three years of steep tax cuts is not bad because reasons.)

And then someone gets that and bird flu at the same time and we end up with airborne rabies because that’s how it works now.

Travis, get your gun!

Remember the toilet paper march up the steps into Air Force One?

What it shows me is that none of the people who deal with him on a day to day basis have any respect for him whatsoever.

Could be that he's the type to shoot the messenger, and nobody wanted to be told "You're fired" for letting him know he's got tp on his feetsies.

Sort of makes you wonder what the staff has been putting in his food over the years.

the people who deal with him on a day to day basis have any respect for him whatsoever.

I find that even more chilling. The number of people that know him and despise him, but are willing to toe the line and throw everything away just for a shot at more money.

Have you tried not having a ton of money? It really sucks.

I forgot about that.

It's like something out of Hot Shots Part Dux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvF2knVsEU

...and then you realize this probably isn't even in the top 10 of embarrassing things in his term.

There will never be anything funnier than Four Seasons Total Landscaping. If I was a comedy TV writer, I would have quit that day because there'd never be a way I could top the hilarious absurdity of that press conference.

I dunno, changing the path of a hurricane with a sharpie is pretty fucking funny, too.

"It happens to the best of us," they wrote.

They should have said the worst.

No respect, definitely contempt, and probably fear.

He’s like the cartoon evil bad guy boss. His minions suck up to him, keep him in power and praise him in public, but behind his back they hate him, mock him, take joy in his failings, and want him to fail. But they’re always worried that they’ll fall on his disfavor and get booted.

I'm not going to watch the video but was the saliva tinted pink at all? That's a sign of congestive heart failure.

Edit: from what I can find if the "sputum" is white and not "excessive" it's not a cause for concern, if there's a lot of it, it could be COPD, pneumonia or other pulmonary (lung) issues but should be checked out by a physician.

Hi, I'm a paramedic x14 yrs. Didn't watch the video, but I don't think this is likely to be the case. In almost every case I've seen pink-tinged foamy sputum from CHF, the patient is in critical condition, and is in absolutely no state to be delivering a deranged rant. Even in the cases where they work on it with hacking and coughing for a bit, they're still pretty much out of gas and not going to be carrying on like dumbass here. At least, that's my experience.

As an EMT of a few months I believe you and will file that in my mental toolkit. I've not seen pink sputum myself yet.

Not that I could tell. What happens is while he's loudly yelling, some spittle actually flies from his mouth.

This is a funny thing to focus on in light of his recent felony conviction.

We've all spit as we've talked, nothing novel about that. A felony conviction, now that's a pretty novel thing.

Turnabout is fair play and all that, but this is just dumb. The dude is old. Anyone that's talked a really old person sees all kind of weird stuff going on with their mouths.

This is the Trump equivalent of going after Biden because he's also shockingly not great with words and controlling his saliva. Hell, I'm not an old, and I've had one too many coffees while hungover and foamy spit was about all the spit I had.

I think we can safely assume a few things here: 1) yes, Trump has health problems. Black people couldn't use the same water fountains as white people for like the first 20+ years of his life. He's old af. 2) this is dumb ass shit, and the fact that Trump is such a low-life "politician" is the only reason this kind of meaningless attack is coming out. 3) people are realizing the felony convictions aren't going to be enough, and this reeks of desperation.

Anyone that's talked a really old person sees all kind of weird stuff going on with their mouths.

a long time ago i read that's because the older one gets, the less thirst one feels and therefore older people don't hydrate enough, if they don't actively hydrate more than they feel thirst

Certain ailments that are more common as you get older can cause less thirst.

Some medications can cause foamy saliva.

And the reason why when you get older, more stuff going on with your mouth is you can loose feeling in the lips so it’s not as noticeable to you in that you can’t feel it.

And you’ll note that I said ‘you’. cuz we all age and you and I and everyone in this post are not exempt from getting older as we speed through the time dimension. It’s not just something that happens to an entirely separate alien species we all just refer to as ‘they’.

And you’ll note that I said ‘you’. cuz we all age and you and I and everyone in this post are not exempt from getting older as we speed through the time dimension.

That's very optimistic of you, as not all of us will reach old age. I'm probably not gonna make it past 60. We shall see.

Is there a link to the video that is not on Twxtter?

You're not missing anything. In one video a little piece of spit flew out of his mouth for like 2 frames, and in another he had a little glob of spit for like 5 frames, and then they played it slow motion and zoomed way in and repeated it a bunch of times because otherwise it would have been comically underwhelming.

That's it. I'm definitely not voting for him now.

The raping, grifting, misogyny, racism, tax evasion, lying, top-secret document mishandling, pandemic mishandling, veteran-hating, handicapped-hating, immigrant-hating, insurrection starting are one thing... but foamy saliva is where I draw the line.

Yeah. He killed like a million people by bungling the covid response, and conspired with one of America's shooting-war enemies (at least one) to get a whole bunch of CIA assets killed in the field. Like dozens of them. A foreign government hacked up an American journalist with bonesaws and took him out in pieces, and Trump came out and said, well they gave me a bunch of money so who cares about one journalist.

And all that is just the stuff that we know. He's like a supernova of treasonous and criminal behavior. No matter how bad you might estimate it is what he did, it's many many times worse.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Donald Trump's "foamy saliva" in a new campaign video has raised questions on social media.

"Many Republicans like to vote on Election Day and we must swamp the radical Democrats with massive turnout on Tuesday, November 5," Trump said.

"Trump spitting while telling his followers to vote for him," the Patriot Takes account posted on X, formerly on Twitter, alongside a 10-second clip from the video.

The account, which monitors right-wing extremism, wrote in another post that Trump "also struggled with foamy saliva" while filming the video.

Another person wrote that "frothy saliva is a rare symptom; when you see it, you should be concerned and immediately send for medical assistance."

"I guess it's time to bring in Kristi Noem to put Trump out of his misery," another person wrote, referencing the South Dakota governor's fatal shooting of her 14-month-old dog.


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foamy saliva is the name of KKK's David Allan Coe cover band.

I assure you, no one wants information about an old man’s foamy saliva. Recoiling in horror at a concept is not “raising questions.”

I mean if it's foamy enough, it raises some major questions. There are few things that cause that and they are basically all bad in their own ways.