Catherine, Princess of Wales, Has Cancer

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Catherine, Princess of Wales, Has Cancer
nytimes.com

Catherine, Princess of Wales, has been diagnosed with cancer and has begun chemotherapy, she announced in a video message on Friday, in which she described the past two months as “incredibly tough for our entire family.”

It comes after a period of intense uncertainty about the health of Catherine, who underwent abdominal surgery in January and largely disappeared from public view as she tried to recuperate.

Like the king, Catherine, 42, did not specify what kind of cancer she has, but asked the public and news media to respect her desire for privacy.

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I think the British royal family is a scourge on the earth, responsible for untold amounts of suffering. The UK, British Isles, British people, and world would be a better place without it. I truly hate everything the Windsors stand for, along with their ancestors going back hundreds of years.

But I hate cancer more.

I think it's possible to have complex feelings about this. Nobody deserves cancer. A lot of the kings of England deserve to have had their heads cut off, but none of them deserved cancer, and certainly not this lady who just lucked and schemed and Machiavellied herself into a life of incomparable privilege inside one of the most powerful dynasties still in existence--the same thing anyone would have done given the chance.

Fuck the royal family. But fuck cancer more. I hope she comes out of it alright, because her husband needs to break the British monarchy, and it would be nicer for him if he had his wife with him when he did.

[American here, if it wasn't obvious.]

It wasn't obvious. Hating the british royalty doesn't narrow it down, it doesn't even exclude Britain.

Hating the British royalty actually makes me suspect Britain

Yup I'm British and I can't stand the whole concept. I'm a republican (don't freak out Americans, that just means I want Britain to be a republic without a monarchy).

Yeah i want a free Australia unfortunately until all the old people die it wont happen

Seems to be a common theme for a lot of the big world issues, honestly.

Lol. A free Australia would mean fixing your government not whining about the monarchy.

the issue is that particular demographic is constantly being renewed

As an American, I can tell you that we don't know how to not freak out, and we're liable to shoot you for asking us not to.

Hating the British royalty specifically also makes me think British. I’m quite disappointed more people don’t hate monarchy in general though.

I guess in 2024 nobody believes in divine right, and I recognize that the monarchs in the vast majority of countries with active monarchies have only ceremonial power, but i still struggle to understand how people in the Commonwealth realms, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Spain, etc., are cool thinking that some rich fuck is somehow better than them or important in any way just because their ancestor was the last person sitting on the throne when everybody decided they weren’t playing the game anymore.

Is it something where they appreciate the tie to history? Even so why would you want a tie to a history that said your ancestors were intrinsically lesser than just because they didn’t have as much land, as big a sword/army, or as much money to pay off the church?

Rich leeches with ties to the government rarely stop being leeches unless they're universally hated

Really ? anyone ? I dig your nuanced opinion, but a life of royalty is close to the bottom in the list of things I want

She luckily has access to the best medical care you can find in the world. Can't say the same for most of the rest of us peasants if we get struck by cancer.

Depending on the type of cancer that might still not help. Pancreatic cancer is pretty much a death sentence unless it's detected very early.

The great equalizer next to home built submersibles.

Downvoting this just because I don't want peasants to think this is a win for them.

Man, cancer will go for anyone. I hope she makes it through, especially for the sake of her children.

Yeah, people can throw out hate for the royals, but I'm just thinking about her, as a person, mother and wife. She's only in her early 40s and her kids are young.

Damn. Fuck cancer. I have all kinds of issues with royalty and especially the British royal family, but I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone.

I also wouldn't wish the British tabloids on anyone. Going through this with every scumbag paparazzi in the country chasing you around, bothering everyone you've ever known and camping outside the hospital trying to get the most ill-looking photo of you has to be its own unique kind of hell.

She chose to become part of the royal family, she knew what that entails.

Frankly being in the tabloids isn't payment enough for what the get as royalty.

I can't comprehend why the people of the UK put up with that level of bullshit. The rest of the world gave up on monarchy over a century ago.

Yeah I was kinda hoping for some stupid shenanigan fun for why she was "missing" or "replaced" like the royals doing their fucking weird shit. Really fucking sucks she has cancer, no one deserves that. Makes all the funny memes and news coverage feel bad now =\

Do you just expect them to denounce their thrones? We all have issues with them but this is just a continuation of thousands of years of tradition and history. It’s engrained in the British.

Who cares.

No one should. Cancer is a boring, private thing. It's a family matter.

She's even explicitly stated she wants to be left alone with her family to recover. I mean, fuck the lot of them, the leeches... But also, yknow, she's human and suffering and just leave her alone for god's sake.

Remind me, was her saying she wants to be left alone before or after weeks of them saying "everything is fine and you're crazy if you suggest otherwise" and releasing obviously fake pictures to try and convince people?

I promise you, people would give a lot less of a shit if they had just said so from the beginning rather than lie and try to hide it. No one gives a shit that the King has cancer either.

Media manufacturing consent. Wonder what else they manufacture consent for?

Apparently all the people saying she was dead and it was a body double at the shops.

I suspect most of them work for The Sun.

Damn shame, for her or anyone with cancer. I had a friend, quite a while ago, in her 30s. She developed ovarian cancer, and it took her out in short order. You never know, best to enjoy every day.

Cancer sucks and I sympathize, but fuck royalty and this celebrity warship bullshit.

I'm right there with you. People need to focus on their own lives and not the private life (and health!) of those who live in the highest echelon.

But also

celebrity warship

🤭

I hope the conspiracy theorists who were spinning tales these past few weeks feel super awesome about this

They'll be spinning up a new one about how it was "Saint Meghan" that gave it to her.

She is the wife of Prince William, who is currently next in line for the British Royal Throne for those who do not know.

Wow so that means she should become queen ? or is that not how it works ? can there be a king and a queen at the same time ?

There usually is a king and queen at the same time because traditionall Kings are in charge. Historically the Queen was the wife of the King. Jusy like Camilla is currently Queen Consort. If/When William takes the throne his wife will be Queen Consort. The King is still a higher position than the Queen which is why Prince Phillip was Prince Consort. If he'd been titled as King then he would have "out ranked" his wife.

So yes Kate will be Queen (trchnically Queen Consort), but William will be "top" royal as King.

Who... fucking... cares... about royalty?

About 84% of UK Citizens hold an opinion on them, and 1 in 3 of them answered survey saying they are very important.

Personally, I'm halfway across the earth from them but I still get a little giddy when one of them dies or is close to dying. When I was young I was ambivalent but the more I hear their opinions about the lesser people the more I see them as enemies of mankind.

As much as I am opposed to royals, cancer gets everyone. I hope for everyone’s sake cancer gets cured soon regardless of who gets it.it is an awful disease and it’s only getting worse and more prevalent. At least that is my take away.

Can we finally leave this woman alone?

Surprise! She had cancer all this time! Do the people who have been pestering her to make public appearances feel any shame yet?

Who?

"Random nobody has cancer, news at 11"

Thats a bit heartless. I wouldn’t mind the royalty nonsense being abolished but I still am saddened when someone struggles with cancer, it’s such a brutal disease, especially for someone so young.

No good reason for it to make the news, though.

If objecting to this article is "heartless," then what's really heartless is not putting out headlines for every single other person who gets cancer. WTF did this person ever do to earn the recognition that everyone else hasn't?

They haven’t done anything. They are just celebrities, which is why they are in the news. You may find celebrity culture stupid (as I do) but that’s how our society is. Are you equally upset with the news reporting on a random musician with cancer?

Exactly my point: society is wrong. Thinking that this person is somehow more deserving of attention -- let alone sympathy -- just because she's "royal" is fucking perverse!

Thinking they don’t deserve any when they have fucking cancer is probably a bit more perverse.

So, again, where are the headlines for everyone else who has cancer? Are you saying they're less deserving?

I don’t understand what your argument is. Obviously we can’t report on or care about every single person on the planet, regardless of how deserving they may be.

There is only room in our attention span for the occasional placeholder to care about outside our immediate social circle and family, and we are also naturally inclined to the concept of fame.

So there will always be people of a certain fame who draw the attention of the masses. May it be politicians, celebrities, fucking billionaire scum, scientists, "influencers", and so forth.

I still don’t think it is morally appropriate to dismiss or talk bad about someone who is struggling with a potentially terminal illness, regardless of if they are famous or not.

I still don’t think it is morally appropriate to dismiss or talk bad about someone who is struggling with a potentially terminal illness

Then the media should STFU about it, don't you think?

Apparently there are a bunch of sycophants around here who can't tell the difference between me saying something isn't newsworthy and me being "heartless" towards a cancer patient. That's just fucked-up on their part.

what's really heartless is not putting out headlines for every single other person who gets cancer.

Who wants that? Do you? I don't. If I get cancer I want to be left the fuck alone.

Buckingham palace was until recently lying and saying it wasn’t cancer so why should we believe them now?

Beelieve them, don't believe them, who gives a shit what you believe? You're not entitled to know everything.

I mean, I know the Crown is always full of shit, but...

Giving her time to process the diagnosis herself and then giving time for her to be able to talk about it with her kids before it hit the tabloids is at least respectable, even if it was handled terribly.

So was it really Kate playing with photoshop on Instagram someone impersonating her?

I'm sure she has people to do that for her. Maybe designers not trained to make fake images under scrutiny, but I doubt she made that photo. She's a royal after all.

Yeah, that photoshop story didn’t make any sense to me when it came out. My immediate thought was that it sounded silly to think the royals touch up their own photos - that are mostly taken by professional photographers to begin with.

Any shred of empathy leaving my body when something bad happens to royalty

Can't believe the amount of bootlickers here wishing her well. Bro, she's a monarch, she belongs in a guillotine.

Jesus fucking christ man. How fucked in the head are you?
Her having cancer is no worse than any other person getting cancer, I agree it's not exactly news or worth being upset over more than anyone else getting it, but don't wish death on people, thats just psychoward behaviour.

Every group has its Robespierres.

Jesus fucking christ man. How fucked in the head are you? Hitler having cancer is no worse than any other person getting cancer, I agree it's not exactly news or worth being upset over more than anyone else getting it, but don't wish death on people, thats just psychoward behaviour.

Sorry... are you comparing Kate Middleton to Hitler?

No, I'm saying not wishing ill on people isn't an absolute. And yeah, I wish ill on hereditary supposedly demi-gods. So sue me.

She's not a "hereditary supposedly demi-god." Firstly because no one in Britain thinks of the royals that way and secondly, because she married into it, so it wasn't hereditary for her.

But sure, don't let her decide who she gets to love and marry.

It doesn't matter what people think, this is how monarchy works. And sure she married into it, so did Marie-Antoinette, and her kids will inherit it, so that point is moot.

I see. So it's okay to be happy about her cancer because her kids inherit a figurehead position with no actual power due to who she married.

Don't worry, I wish it on her kids (when they grow up) too!

And no, it's not true that the British Crown has no real power. They fair regularly influence legislation directly, and foreign policy in more indirect manners.

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I hope you get the help you need, you are clearly very troubled. It's never too late to reach out for assistance.

I'm fine thanks. Down with the monarchy! Long live the free people. Up the RA!

I think it's y'all who are troubled, venerating hereditary demi-gods.

I'd imagine hitler gettng cancer would be significantly better than any other person getting cancer.

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Wow, lots of royalty bootlickers in this thread LMFAO

edit: keep downvoting, bootlickers - your fake empathy for a terrible person is quite sad

most of lemmy talks of guillotining rich people, nature takes action and we are all up in arms. it's just nature happening to one person. she gets special care in a country where the health system has been gutted. I can't feel empathy

exactly - I guess Lemmy users are just the same old Reddit users.... I used to think we had a more logical bunch here but I guess not lol.

Miss.

Royalty bad, cancer bad. Both possible.

I guess I just need someone to do something worse than marry into an institution I don't like before I start wishing painful death upon them. Probably because I'm not a child.