Is it a sweatshirt or a jacket?

Bob Robertson IX@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 68 points –

I have always called a light top with a full zipper to be a jacket, however the people I'm surrounded by insist on calling it a sweatshirt. I'm prepared to be wrong, just wondering if I'm the only one.

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Hoodie.

Weirdly for me, this wouldn't be a hoodie. Pullover hoodies are the only type possible in my mind. Something like this would be a jacket to me.

Check this out dawg - a pullover hoodie is this without a zipper. So this is a -- zippered hoodie.

To be clear, I don't actually refer to it as a "pullover hoodie". I just said that for clarification.

For me,

A hooded sweatshirt without a zipper = hoodie. In my experience, these are often (but not always) more looser fitting.

A hooded article of clothing with a zipper = jacket. In my experience, these are often more form fitting.

First - tone is hard to convey. I think what I said could sound rl douchey if read wrong. I wasn't slamming you.

I understand your point and I think it really its just about where you grew up and what other people call things. I have def called my zip up a jacket.

In this specific case - this is a zipper / zip up hoodie. Or just zip up. But like you aren't breaking any laws by calling it a jacket and people still know what you mean when you call it a jacket - so it doesn't matter at all and you do you

Wear that fuckin jacket dawg.

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I really like these because they're convenient. I call them a hoodie.

Then I realised I never use the hood and it's kinda uncomfortable when you put a jacket on in winter

So I bought one without a hood

That was the day I realised I'd bought what was essentially my first cardigan :(

If it has a zipper I'd consider it a sweater not a cardigan. Cardis have buttons.

(Realizing that a cardigan is a type of sweater, but I just mean it's a different kind of sweater)

You keep telling yourself that when you're 50 my friend πŸ˜‚

the ones without hoods often have uncomfortable collars, like zipper scratching my neck etc. so even though i dont use the hood, i prefer having it so it sits well.

I'd call it a "hoodie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie

A hoodie (in some cases spelled hoody[1] and alternatively known as a hooded garment)[2] is a type of sweatshirt[1] with a hood that partially or fully covers the wearer's head or face.

Wikipedia says that the zipper can be a defining characteristic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacket

List of jackets

  • Hoodie, a zippered hooded sweatshirt (non zippered can be considered a sweatshirt only)

List of jackets

  • Hoodie, a zippered hooded sweatshirt (non zippered can be considered a sweatshirt only)

That clears things up... this jacket is a zippered hooded sweatshirt.

Wait, that resolves nothing!

Ugh, I spent entirely too much time arguing this when I was still in school, ironically the most time we spent arguing with men that were more than twice my age and felt way too strongly about this.

This is the right answer and I will not be taking any questions: πŸ™ƒ

  • If it comes as a set with matching bottoms(or a gold chain) = Tracksuit/Sweatsuit

  • Light single layer + hood = hoodie

  • Light (single layer) + zipper/buttons + no hood = Jacket

  • Light (single layer) + knitted = sweater or sweater jacket if it opens

  • The other lighter layers with no hardware are just pullover

  • Heavier outterwear = Coat

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

You're missing things like wind breaker and rain jacket - light, zipper, hood.

Depends what it's made of IMO. That form factor can be a jacket if it's made of jacket material, but the one pictured appears to be made of sweater material, and it's therefore a hoodie, which is a sweater.

According to the TSA, it's a jacket. Ask me how I know.

How do you know ? Does it involve cavity search ?

Not in my case, but if did involve a very minor disagreement with a TSA officer.

I very minor disagreement: I'm not stupid. But I was a white male US citizen, otherwise I wouldn't have risked it.

I was a white male US citizen

What are you these days?

The CIA does not allow them to disclose this information.

It's down to the material. That looks like full cotton with a hood. So, sweatshirt. Hooded sweatshirt = Hoodie. Denim? Would've been a jacket. Some sort of wind blocking material like polyester or nylon would be a jacket. I might give jacket status to a multilayer cotton jacket with inner liners too.

This kinda rocks my world. I never thought of it being based on the material, no wonder I've always found the whole hoodie / sweatshirt / sweater / jacket think confusing.

Hmmm...still not sure it makes sense to me...

That's alright. It doesn't matter in the slightest. If you want to call them whatever it doesn't matter.

This whole thing is confusing to me.

For me, gen X, growing up it was this:
Sweatshirt: Non-hooded OR hooded and shirt shaped with NO zipper but made of material that is "fleece"-like on one side and smooth-ish on the other.

Jacket: zippered thing, long sleeves, usually made of plastic or nylon but the purpose was to wear OVER your clothes as a windbreaker and/or to keep you warm.

Hoodies did not exist. Things like a sweatshirt, jacket, coat or shirt might have a hood.

Now, I do not know what the fuck to call shit.

That is a fucking jirt. Shirtet. Sweatjack. Hoodet. Sweatie. Jackie.

We call them zoodies in our sports club, to differentiate them from hoodies, which have no zip.

Jackets are lined.

Jackets, often, but not always. Track jackets, windbreaker jackets, shell jackets, etc. Light jackets and coats without lining are pretty easy to find. I even have a light sport coat with no lining.

Depends on the material and construction by my reckoning. If it's made of just sweatshirt fleece (smooth on the outside face), it would most-precisely be called a "full-zip hooded sweatshirt." I have also heard of these referred to as a "sweatjac," though. (Which, IMO, sounds more like an event at the Self-Love Olympics.) Without the zipper, it'd be a "pullover hooded sweatshirt." If it were constructed with a lining, or from a heavier-duty material (e.g. denim), then it'd be a "hooded jacket." Garments made from material with two fuzzy faces (or even one fuzzy face on the outside) are "fleeces," so this'd be a "full-zip hooded fleece."

No, I don't claim that it makes sense, it's just the way I learned it.

It's both, depending on what word my brain decides to use at the time.

But I think usually that would be a "sweater", a "sweatshirt" doesn't have a zipper or hood, and a "jacket" is made of, um, jacket material.

Sweatshirts are double-layered pullovers, typically non-woven. Sweaters are single-layer pullovers, typically knit. Jackets have buttons or zippers. Hoodies have hoods and are made of fabric (e.g. raincoats are not hoodies).

You can have hoodies that are also sweatshirts, or hoodies that are also jackets.

This garment pictured in your post is a jacket. It is also a hoodie. It is neither a sweatshirt nor a sweater.

This is just my interpretation of the situation. I don't know of any formal classification system for outerwear.

When I was growing up, we called these β€œsweatshirt jackets.” So, yes.

Hooded sweatshirt.

I insisted on calling them this throughout high school because I thought the word hoodie was dumb. Tbh I was probably annoying about it. Eventually I caved, but I still think hoodie is kind of a dumb word. So is jumper for what it's worth.

I know they're essentially the same thing but when you say it that way I think of a hooded pullover, but hoodies are zippered for me.