They feel he tilted the trial? He handled Trump with kid gloves the whole trial while he was throwing constant diaper filled tantrums. If anything he went way too easy on the orange baboon.
Fascists always say they were treated unfairly...
The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.
It never does.
To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.
Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.
It's like how they'll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there's no point in running a conservative Dem, they'll fight them as hard as the most progressive.
There's no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.
fascists sit in positions of power while pretending they are a horribly persecuted and mistreated minority
Next up: Fox News tells us how awful the Mainstream Media is!
Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.
Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.
While there is some credence for that, it's not like it only applies to fascists.
Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.
Regardless of if that's like Trump's case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.
In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.
trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.
Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it's justified for one reason or another.
And it's always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.
This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.
Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true
Give it a shot, maybe he'll have enough time before November to publish a book
He's not going to give Trump a prison term. He said as much during Trump's tenth contempt citation. This is Senators grandstanding so that they can go home and tell their constituents "I fought for your President and I won!" when the outcome was a foregone conclusion. Its all kabuki.
georgia might
They aren't even trying him until after the election
If only someone could have seen it coming that no matter how soft the judges would be, half the country would allege wrongdoing. Judge may as well have just given him the letter of the law treatment. Would probably have been better for the country too to see Donny in contempt of court, that way the eager ones burn themselves out soon instead of letting every racist in the country simmer in a pressure cooker awaiting a verdict.
MAGA 2016: "Lock her up!"
MAGA 2020: "Lock him up!"
MAGA 2024: "The justice department is being politicized against Biden's enemies!"
"I never said lock her up."
Source: A horses ass. Just as wide and smells like it too.
I enjoy watching the late night monologues the morning after broadcast. All of them played a supercut of him saying "lock her up" after that interview.
Also MAGA 2024: "Lock up Hunter Biden!"
Americans warn America against listening to GOP senators
Unfortunately Americans don't listen to Americans and keep electing GOP senators.
Republicans: Democrats keep ruining everything! Elect Republicans to fix everything!
American Voters: Elects Republicans
Republicans: intentionally makes things even worse
American Voters: GOD DAMN DEMOCRATS!
For the last 30 years the southeast has had a “but my guy is okay” problem
It has been a bit longer than 30 years...
Quit scapegoating the southeast. This is a nationwide problem.
Checking in from the most south western city of the 48, we gots MAGAt infestations here....
Mostly by abstention. We had less than 50% attendance in the last two congressional midterm elections.
The judge should warn the GOP senators about minding their own fucking business
Well said.
Backs completely against the wall. They install their dictator or go down together.
They're not as smart as the rats who have already been quietly jumping ship.
Well, that'd be the second best thing after throwing them all into a volcano, I guess
Biden is OBVIOUSLY overseeing this STATE Judge who told Trump multiple times he would be thrown in Jail but never was DESPITE threatening the Judge's family and then allowed a Jury to deliberate in private to come to a conclusion based solely off the Evidence provided.
That is UNFAIR and an ABUSE OF POWER on Joe Biden's part!
Biden's Justice Department declined to prosecute Trump for the obvious crimes he was just convicted of! You can't just say shit that's the complete opposite of reality!!! Oh wait, republicans can, and they'll earn votes with lies like this...
Because that's how democracy works right my friends?
The politicians are supposed to pay for prostitution and stop judges from jailing other politicians.
Those politicians should be prosecuted for interfering with justice, threatening judges is criminal
And like everything with our incredibly stupid system it will end up being some bullshit that Congress needs to investigate itself over so they can find they "did no wrong"...
yeah the balance of power through the 3 branches scratching each other backs and the hidden 4th BOP group -- money
The main pillar of democracy is apparently money.
*only
it's not like this isn't the obvious end point (collapse) for any society run by greed and selfishness. continually dousing the statues of ancient Greece in acid will erode them just as surely as ceaseless corporate lobbying and the systematic removal of those who would stand for principles over profit has eroded the system we built on the greek model.
Nosgoth in ruins.
this reference had to make its own niche within the niche because the niche wasn't big enough, and I like it.
It would make a good meme. But my picture finding skills lays in shambles.
Do it. Give him jail time. Because when it comes to politicians we need to hammer in a lesson: not only could it happen to anyone, but it it should happen to almost everyone. They'll need to be held universally accountable for crimes (for a change), regardless of political party.
I worry about Republicans taking power and using the trump trials as an excuse to put together kangaroo courts in places like Texas and Florida to actually do the sorts of politically based prosecutions that they're whining about now. That should never be a reason to not uphold the law though. We cannot let ourselves be held hostage by what bad actors might do in the future.
They already have said that's the plan. They want to go after Biden and his family, Obama (they can't fucking get over that guy...) and whoever else was a part of any investigation of Republicans.
Turn on fox news and watch the fucking propagandists go from practically in tears talking about trump, to literally frothing rage ranting about how all Democrats need to be jailed...
The BEST situation would be for the judge to say prison for a first offender is inappropriate. And then sentence the Mango Mussolini to 1000 hours of community service in which he'd pick up trash along the highway etc. And begin the 1000 hours in September.
He would absolutely not be in a jumpsuit on the side of the road doing community service. He would be assigned 1000 hours and then “work” with a charity putting his “skills” to use.
I’m speaking from experience. I had 120 hrs of community service and I did computer work for a well known charity.
But the orange has no useful skills to offer any REAL charity.
Other than manual labor, would you take financial advice from someone who bankrupted a casino!?
THREE casinos.
I'm going to guess you didn't piss off the judge.
Lol. Fair point. I did not.
Also going to guess that you're not known for staging a failed coup against the government.
But you have computer experience. The only things Trump is good at are grifting and lying. Not much community service fodder in that.
I just want him to have to piss in a cup before the debates so he can't take his hitler energy cocktail.
Don't put him on a highway chain gang, that gives him too much public exposure. His fanboys will basically flood that place, making the security of the guards a nightmare. Put him in a nice place where he can assemble, clean, or pack something without access to the crowds.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said it would be a “further abuse of power” to incarcerate Trump or sentence him to home confinement.
“I’m very troubled by what I see in the way the courts have been weaponized,” he said. “It used to be there were some institutions in America, namely the FBI, the Department of Justice and the courts, which were regarded as out of bounds for overt partisan politics, but unfortunately that’s changed, and not for the better.”
I am at a loss for how true his words are, while his intent is SO SO wrong
Gaslight Obstruct Project
Every accusation is an admission. This guy would jump at the chance to weaponize the Justice Dept for his extremist views, guarantee it.
His aim here is to provide cover for the politicians that actually do want to and have attempted to weaponize federal law enforcement in the past, Trump and other Republicans.
I could go on. So many instances where he ordered law enforcement officials to launch baseless investigations to harass his political opponents. Even Barr of all people at one point was threatening to resign because of how far Trump had gone! The guy explicitly brought in by Trump because he felt Jeff Sessions wasn't directly doing his bidding enough.
All this while simultaneously trying to delegitimize our entire justice system trying to hold Trump and his cronies liable for their many criminal activities over the past eight years.
Gaslight, obstruct, and project.
Definitely heading for a Russian style "democracy" if the gop is allowed to return to power.
The only answer is for Trumplethinskin to perform 1000 hours of community service beginning in September.
Fuck that. Make that rancid tub of orange crisco sweat his bronzer off picking up garbage after a Biden rally in the middle of July.
Probably a death sentence for him, so maybe we just do house arrest for 4 years, and fine him for his "ill-gotten" gains between 2016 and now.
Ts, ts, didn't they all scream that politicians influencing the juridical process is a bad thing just seconds ago?
I would love to see this orange piece of crap in jail.
Warn? WARN? The arrogance is astounding. Just who do they think they are?
One of those dipshits said “we’re not a banana republic”. That’s correct. Even legislators in those countries know that shitting on their own legal system is counterproductive, but that hasn’t been the case here!
I’m so sick of these crybabies tearing the country apart simply out of spite. Learn what consequences and facts are, you pathetic whiners.
They won’t learn unless a concerted effort is made to teach them a lesson about lying
Just more normal governance from the non-criminal GOP.
The party of LaW aNd OrDeR.
They mean the tv shows, where the cops frequently ignore basic rights of innocent people to get the bad guys.
They mean the two-tiered legal system, where the working class is subject to the expected uncaring legal system, and the monied-class can be protected from prosecution (much less incarceration) by the wink-and-a-nod privileged legal system.
Id love for him to just die already
You'll get banned from reddit for saying that. Trust me. Lol
Spez is a far-right psycho.
I was banned from Reddit for suggesting people punch their local Nazi. So 🤷🏻
It’s time for the whole generation to die. But I’ll be sad since I have family I care about in that generation.
Or what?
Well, normally I'd say it's just posturing but with the increasingly violent rhetoric coming from the GQP...
I doubt New York gives a shit about what these Senators think.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said last month. “I think a lot of these cases [will] work up, and the Supreme Court finally says enough is enough, we’re not a banana republic.”
I really hope they do Senator. In a Banana Republic, the Glorious Leader is usually not held to account for his crimes. In the US and in functional Republics, we actually hold people to account for the crimes they commit, regardless of their current or former positions. Trump committed a crime, being a former President doesn't mean he can't be held to account.
He better at least get house arrest. I can see the logistics issue of the SS trying to keep him safe in prison even though he deserves to get the maximum time IMO.
yes, that's what they say, house arrest for traitors
I'm just trying to be realistic. 🤷
keep him safe
He just needs to become someone’s bitch. I mean he’s already Putin’s bitch, so he has practice. 😜
Guys i think these people actually believe we think "politics" is a good thing
"Look what you made me do."
I wonder what the GOP take on Hunter's trial is going to be? I'm going to go out on a limb and say, if convicted they will praise it, while at the same time saying Biden has the DOJ weaponized against Trump. If Trump's DOJ hadn't shut down all investigations into his crimes I'm sure his Federal ones would have started while he was still in office. He also wouldn't have had to rush to announce his running to make his cases "political" even though nothing states he can't be held accountable and campaign at the same time. Running alone shouldn't be treated as some shield to prosecution as it is due to everyone afraid of looking "political" and feeding right into the crazy arguments from criminals.
/rant
Despite the fact that the DOJ has nothing to do with the NY case. And the rest of the cases that the DOJ are apart of have been utterly stalled. If Biden directed all this, he’s sure done a shit job of it.
As much as I wish he would land in jail, I doubt that will be the actual outcome. I bet the republican talking heads know it too, but they can't resist cashing in on the fear of it to fire up their bases.
They feel he tilted the trial? He handled Trump with kid gloves the whole trial while he was throwing constant diaper filled tantrums. If anything he went way too easy on the orange baboon.
Fascists always say they were treated unfairly...
The problem with that is, moderates then treat them with kids gloves, thinking that will stop them from saying it.
It never does.
To deal with fascists you throw the book at them, max legal punishment for every crime.
Because even if you just give them a slap on the wrist, their ideology requires them to say they were treated unfairly and are being persecuted.
It's like how they'll call the most conservative Dem in office a communist. So there's no point in running a conservative Dem, they'll fight them as hard as the most progressive.
There's no rational reason to compromise before the fight starts.
fascists sit in positions of power while pretending they are a horribly persecuted and mistreated minority
Next up: Fox News tells us how awful the Mainstream Media is!
Many judges grant the defense way more leeway than the prosecution. One reason is actually pretty brutal- it keeps them from having something to appeal.
Trump obviously wants to drag this out as long as possible, and keep re-rolling the dice until he wins. Preventing that is a worthy goal.
While there is some credence for that, it's not like it only applies to fascists.
Yet they always get preferential treatment at trial.
Regardless of if that's like Trump's case where he appointed the judge, or this one where the other party appointed the judge.
In both situations, the judges are more lenient with fascists than literally any other demographic.
trump isnt the only example, look at all the 1/6 trials.
Our justice system has a bias towards fascists, and regardless of the reasoning of the person showing the bias, they all believe it's justified for one reason or another.
And it's always the wrong strategy when dealing with fascists.
This is particularly true for politicalized trials, because appeals courts are almost always more conservative than the lower courts. As you appeal higher, the courts tend to be more and more conservative, so a conservative’s chances of winning increase. So if you want to prevent a conservative from winning on appeal, the best way is to never give them anything to appeal in the first place.
Yeah, it’s the card says moops. They aren’t arguing what they think is true, they’re arguing what they think will get them what they want if they can convince people is true
The card says moops for those that don't know
Give it a shot, maybe he'll have enough time before November to publish a book
He's not going to give Trump a prison term. He said as much during Trump's tenth contempt citation. This is Senators grandstanding so that they can go home and tell their constituents "I fought for your President and I won!" when the outcome was a foregone conclusion. Its all kabuki.
georgia might
They aren't even trying him until after the election
If only someone could have seen it coming that no matter how soft the judges would be, half the country would allege wrongdoing. Judge may as well have just given him the letter of the law treatment. Would probably have been better for the country too to see Donny in contempt of court, that way the eager ones burn themselves out soon instead of letting every racist in the country simmer in a pressure cooker awaiting a verdict.
MAGA 2016: "Lock her up!"
MAGA 2020: "Lock him up!"
MAGA 2024: "The justice department is being politicized against Biden's enemies!"
"I never said lock her up."
Source: A horses ass. Just as wide and smells like it too.
I enjoy watching the late night monologues the morning after broadcast. All of them played a supercut of him saying "lock her up" after that interview.
Also MAGA 2024: "Lock up Hunter Biden!"
Americans warn America against listening to GOP senators
Unfortunately Americans don't listen to Americans and keep electing GOP senators.
Republicans: Democrats keep ruining everything! Elect Republicans to fix everything!
American Voters: Elects Republicans
Republicans: intentionally makes things even worse
American Voters: GOD DAMN DEMOCRATS!
For the last 30 years the southeast has had a “but my guy is okay” problem
It has been a bit longer than 30 years...
Quit scapegoating the southeast. This is a nationwide problem.
Checking in from the most south western city of the 48, we gots MAGAt infestations here....
Mostly by abstention. We had less than 50% attendance in the last two congressional midterm elections.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
The judge should warn the GOP senators about minding their own fucking business
Well said.
Backs completely against the wall. They install their dictator or go down together.
They're not as smart as the rats who have already been quietly jumping ship.
Well, that'd be the second best thing after throwing them all into a volcano, I guess
Biden is OBVIOUSLY overseeing this STATE Judge who told Trump multiple times he would be thrown in Jail but never was DESPITE threatening the Judge's family and then allowed a Jury to deliberate in private to come to a conclusion based solely off the Evidence provided.
That is UNFAIR and an ABUSE OF POWER on Joe Biden's part!
Biden's Justice Department declined to prosecute Trump for the obvious crimes he was just convicted of! You can't just say shit that's the complete opposite of reality!!! Oh wait, republicans can, and they'll earn votes with lies like this...
Because that's how democracy works right my friends?
The politicians are supposed to pay for prostitution and stop judges from jailing other politicians.
Those politicians should be prosecuted for interfering with justice, threatening judges is criminal
And like everything with our incredibly stupid system it will end up being some bullshit that Congress needs to investigate itself over so they can find they "did no wrong"...
yeah the balance of power through the 3 branches scratching each other backs and the hidden 4th BOP group -- money
The main pillar of democracy is apparently money.
*only
it's not like this isn't the obvious end point (collapse) for any society run by greed and selfishness. continually dousing the statues of ancient Greece in acid will erode them just as surely as ceaseless corporate lobbying and the systematic removal of those who would stand for principles over profit has eroded the system we built on the greek model.
Nosgoth in ruins.
this reference had to make its own niche within the niche because the niche wasn't big enough, and I like it.
It would make a good meme. But my picture finding skills lays in shambles.
Do it. Give him jail time. Because when it comes to politicians we need to hammer in a lesson: not only could it happen to anyone, but it it should happen to almost everyone. They'll need to be held universally accountable for crimes (for a change), regardless of political party.
I worry about Republicans taking power and using the trump trials as an excuse to put together kangaroo courts in places like Texas and Florida to actually do the sorts of politically based prosecutions that they're whining about now. That should never be a reason to not uphold the law though. We cannot let ourselves be held hostage by what bad actors might do in the future.
They already have said that's the plan. They want to go after Biden and his family, Obama (they can't fucking get over that guy...) and whoever else was a part of any investigation of Republicans.
Turn on fox news and watch the fucking propagandists go from practically in tears talking about trump, to literally frothing rage ranting about how all Democrats need to be jailed...
The BEST situation would be for the judge to say prison for a first offender is inappropriate. And then sentence the Mango Mussolini to 1000 hours of community service in which he'd pick up trash along the highway etc. And begin the 1000 hours in September.
He would absolutely not be in a jumpsuit on the side of the road doing community service. He would be assigned 1000 hours and then “work” with a charity putting his “skills” to use.
I’m speaking from experience. I had 120 hrs of community service and I did computer work for a well known charity.
But the orange has no useful skills to offer any REAL charity.
Other than manual labor, would you take financial advice from someone who bankrupted a casino!?
THREE casinos.
I'm going to guess you didn't piss off the judge.
Lol. Fair point. I did not.
Also going to guess that you're not known for staging a failed coup against the government.
But you have computer experience. The only things Trump is good at are grifting and lying. Not much community service fodder in that.
I just want him to have to piss in a cup before the debates so he can't take his hitler energy cocktail.
Don't put him on a highway chain gang, that gives him too much public exposure. His fanboys will basically flood that place, making the security of the guards a nightmare. Put him in a nice place where he can assemble, clean, or pack something without access to the crowds.
I am at a loss for how true his words are, while his intent is SO SO wrong
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project
Every accusation is an admission. This guy would jump at the chance to weaponize the Justice Dept for his extremist views, guarantee it.
His aim here is to provide cover for the politicians that actually do want to and have attempted to weaponize federal law enforcement in the past, Trump and other Republicans.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-justice-department-prosecuction-political-enemies-1234588539/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-turns-full-force-government-perceived-political-enemies-n1010096
https://www.wral.com/story/flake-trump-calling-for-fbi-to-go-after-political-adversaries-is-not-normal-/17094733/
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/01/05/trump-is-using-the-fbi-to-go-after-his-opponents-how-will-the-media-respond/
I could go on. So many instances where he ordered law enforcement officials to launch baseless investigations to harass his political opponents. Even Barr of all people at one point was threatening to resign because of how far Trump had gone! The guy explicitly brought in by Trump because he felt Jeff Sessions wasn't directly doing his bidding enough.
All this while simultaneously trying to delegitimize our entire justice system trying to hold Trump and his cronies liable for their many criminal activities over the past eight years.
Gaslight, obstruct, and project.
Definitely heading for a Russian style "democracy" if the gop is allowed to return to power.
The only answer is for Trumplethinskin to perform 1000 hours of community service beginning in September.
Fuck that. Make that rancid tub of orange crisco sweat his bronzer off picking up garbage after a Biden rally in the middle of July.
Probably a death sentence for him, so maybe we just do house arrest for 4 years, and fine him for his "ill-gotten" gains between 2016 and now.
Ts, ts, didn't they all scream that politicians influencing the juridical process is a bad thing just seconds ago?
I would love to see this orange piece of crap in jail.
Warn? WARN? The arrogance is astounding. Just who do they think they are?
One of those dipshits said “we’re not a banana republic”. That’s correct. Even legislators in those countries know that shitting on their own legal system is counterproductive, but that hasn’t been the case here!
I’m so sick of these crybabies tearing the country apart simply out of spite. Learn what consequences and facts are, you pathetic whiners.
They won’t learn unless a concerted effort is made to teach them a lesson about lying
Just more normal governance from the non-criminal GOP.
The party of LaW aNd OrDeR.
They mean the tv shows, where the cops frequently ignore basic rights of innocent people to get the bad guys.
They mean the two-tiered legal system, where the working class is subject to the expected uncaring legal system, and the monied-class can be protected from prosecution (much less incarceration) by the wink-and-a-nod privileged legal system.
Id love for him to just die already
You'll get banned from reddit for saying that. Trust me. Lol
Spez is a far-right psycho.
I was banned from Reddit for suggesting people punch their local Nazi. So 🤷🏻
It’s time for the whole generation to die. But I’ll be sad since I have family I care about in that generation.
Or what?
Well, normally I'd say it's just posturing but with the increasingly violent rhetoric coming from the GQP...
I doubt New York gives a shit about what these Senators think.
I really hope they do Senator. In a Banana Republic, the Glorious Leader is usually not held to account for his crimes. In the US and in functional Republics, we actually hold people to account for the crimes they commit, regardless of their current or former positions. Trump committed a crime, being a former President doesn't mean he can't be held to account.
He better at least get house arrest. I can see the logistics issue of the SS trying to keep him safe in prison even though he deserves to get the maximum time IMO.
yes, that's what they say, house arrest for traitors
I'm just trying to be realistic. 🤷
He just needs to become someone’s bitch. I mean he’s already Putin’s bitch, so he has practice. 😜
Guys i think these people actually believe we think "politics" is a good thing
"Look what you made me do."
I wonder what the GOP take on Hunter's trial is going to be? I'm going to go out on a limb and say, if convicted they will praise it, while at the same time saying Biden has the DOJ weaponized against Trump. If Trump's DOJ hadn't shut down all investigations into his crimes I'm sure his Federal ones would have started while he was still in office. He also wouldn't have had to rush to announce his running to make his cases "political" even though nothing states he can't be held accountable and campaign at the same time. Running alone shouldn't be treated as some shield to prosecution as it is due to everyone afraid of looking "political" and feeding right into the crazy arguments from criminals.
/rant
Despite the fact that the DOJ has nothing to do with the NY case. And the rest of the cases that the DOJ are apart of have been utterly stalled. If Biden directed all this, he’s sure done a shit job of it.
As much as I wish he would land in jail, I doubt that will be the actual outcome. I bet the republican talking heads know it too, but they can't resist cashing in on the fear of it to fire up their bases.