The quote is exactly what normal people assume it is, out of context and not the entire quote.
Twentieth Century Television Senior Vice President Michael Giordano was caught on a hidden video saying that Disney explicitly does not hire “white men” for specific roles.
For specific roles. That's pretty fcking obvious. You're not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid.
Ironically if they did hire a white man to play The Little Mermaid, the hard right nutjobs would be screaming that it was part of a "woke trans agenda" to normalize crossdressing and eliminate the traditional American male from society lol
It’s not about the point. It’s bout how you can spin it.
I mean, the little mermaid should be a danish woman. Like thats where the tale comes from. if they want a diverse movie, why not use a tale from somewhere that isnt europe?
Did you also know there's no talking crab in the original story by Hans Christian Andersen? Since we're being faithful to the original.
Well, if you didnt want to make the little mermaid, why call it that and say its based on the tale?
Like Moana or Mulan?
Exactly!
cultural appropiation
So, you're saying they're sexist and racist, and we should all be enraged and immediately donate to our favourite bigots?
I'm buying a ton of Disney stuff right now to throw on the bonfire tonight.
There are valid reasons for hating on Disney though.. like what they've done to Star Wars.
Agreed. Want to add that (in my opinion, at least) Lucas's Episodes I, II & III didn't do the series any favors either. :-(
They expanded on the world building and action superbly, but Lucas isn't a people person, and it shows
The Prequels were more world ruining movies than world building movies.
Or the fact that they donate a shit ton of money to conservative politicians.
The original 20 minute video in the article makes it clear he's talking about job roles, and mentions writers a few times (admittedly not close enough to draw an 100% certain link). I don't think it's enough to discredit this just based on the assumption that he's talking about actors or that there isn't enough context. Obviously it's vague enough that we can't draw any solid conclusions, so I agree with you there.
The main reason I think this is bullshit is that the guy's testimony isn't credible for two main reasons:
The guy was recently passed up for promotion, and blames it on being white and male
The interviewer is posing as a romantically interested date and asking plenty of leading questions, the guy is at least partially telling her what she wants to hear
These two points, regardless of how true his story is, give him an ulterior motive for embellishing the story and exaggerating facts, which ultimately means we can't trust this.
I'd like to see a full investigation, as with any accusation of discrimination. But we all know that when nothing turns up, it wouldn't shut the right wingers up
Personally, I would love to see the little mermaid played by a big, burly man.
Terry Crewes would be perfect for the role
Then what kind of absolute unit can even be cast for daddy Tritron?
Tritron obviously will be a femboy
Finally, roles opening up for me 😳
Watch Disney cast the rock 🙃
You're not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid.
Don't you tell me what to do.
🎶 You’re not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid. 🎶
“No way in hell are we hiring a white man to play miles morales”
You're not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid.
I don't know, genderswapping the roles doesn't seem that far fetched for Disney
Terry Crews as Little Mermaid confirmed?
They already remade Little Mermaid too recently. Terry Crews as Rapunzel, though, is still on the table.
but Terry is bald, so...
oh god.
"Rapunzel, yo! Let down your pubes!"
About time
As much as I dislike Disney as a company that does sound interesting... really actually brings up so many new possibilities to revisit the classics!
Disney the company being evil doesn’t mean the folks that work on their products are too
Sure doesn't.
There’s no way we’re hiring a white man for this role. They’d be very careful how they’d message that to agents.
Furthering that, they use the word agent. Specifically referring actors.
Lots of writers and other crew have agents. It's not clear from the article if that's what's being referred to though.
Sure, but they also said role. Which can just mean job position, is more commonly used for casted actors.
Your first mistake was going to reddit at all. Your second mistake was going to the y'all qaeda subs.
y'all qaeda... I'll have to remember that one.
Yokel Haram
Vanilla ISIS
Coup Klux Klan
The version I've heard is "coup cucks klan"
It just randomly appears on the news feed. Out of curiosity, I went deeper and lol'd.
Knowing r/conservative, Disney was probably talking about hiring someone to play Tina Turner in a biopic, or something like that.
That was going to be Rowan Atkinson’s Oscar role! The woke brigade ROBBED HIM!
Nah, according to the articles, it includes writers and executives.
That is not what the article says.
There have been multiple links in the comments to the articles, hours before your comment. Which part exactly said it includes writers and executives?
The original post.
This is the part where you point out what you mean.
Just read it, its like half way down
It sounds like you won't have any trouble copying and pasting the part you're talking about right here, unless it doesn't exist.
Giordano went on to say that while only 10-15 percent of the population is gay, he estimates that a third or more of Disney’s writers are gay, and they “lean into gay and transgender stories.”
Giordano even focused on his career moving forward, saying he is “one step below being a department head,” but as far as Disney is concerned, he’s only “a white male.”
I love vague conversations. It really seals the entire argument, don't you think?
(Just in case you're really as slow as your comments imply you are, I am specifically telling you that you are wrong and we all know you're refusing to provide any actual evidence whatsoever, because you also know you're wrong)
Giordano went on to say that while only 10-15 percent of the population is gay, he estimates that a third or more of Disney’s writers are gay, and they “lean into gay and transgender stories.”
Giordano even focused on his career moving forward, saying he is “one step below being a department head,” but as far as Disney is concerned, he’s only “a white male.”
Now, Ive proven I can read an article. Can you do the same?
Lol have you though? Really?
Where you able to read the rest of the words as well, or are you just going to ignore those?
You're better off going back to the conservative cave than trying to talk to the rest of us.
Its pretty black and white. How would you interpret those quotes?
Do you have a link?
Interestingly this statement is only presented completely without context. What role where they talking about? I'm sure Steven Miller wouldn't be satisfied until white men in blackface are playing every role in whatever it is they're talking about lol
Executives and writers were drectly mentioned
I just read one of the linked articles. It didn't say this.
By who?
I also would not hire a white man to play the new Psylocke. No context quotes mean we get to insert our own, right?
Psylocke sounds really close to uhh...something.
I really hope the character isn't Jewish lol.
Edit: Damn alright fine lol, let him be a Jewish superhero named something two letters off from a Jewish slur, I didn't realize that'd be so popular around here.
Dude, come on. Everyone knows the classic comic character Goldsylockstein isn't Jewish.
They were looking for someone to play Martin Luther King.
Considering they employ 200,000 people, I’d say quite a lot.
"...because we've probably already hired 90% of them in the history of our company"
oh nooooo poor little white men it's so hard for them
Hire for what, a janitor? Sounds legit.
I mean. The US has alot of white people so whatever, stupid whining. But here in Canada....
IIRC Canada's actually touching similar demographic diversity to the US, the difference is more in what demographics specifically since Canada tended to draw from the corners of the British Empire specifically while the US would draw folks from all the rest of the world as well.
Canada had massive immigration from India, and we just started trying to put a lid on that because we realized that it was a bad idea to let in so many people at once. The immigration targets the government has set are bonkers.
It's always hilarious when the racists come out of the woodwork
Calling me racist while not showing how in racist.
We can all see your comments buddy. You should try reading them too.
I can read, thanks for the concern.
Why would you think I'm concerned about you? Lol
Considering after 15 seconds of looking at your profile, there's this...
yeah I think it's pretty obvious
The only ones to concern troll about their targets to the extent you do and complain about everything that doesn't align with their political views being "too political" are conservatives. You aren't concerned about the wellbeing of anyone, you want to exterminate the "others" and think you're smart by using the most basic manipulation tactic of conservatives – feigning concern for the welfare of the people you want to get rid of as a means to make people think your position is acceptable.
Also you support the displacement and genocide of Palestinians by Israel. You seem to be joyful at the thought of Israel's colonization of Palestine resulting in the destruction of the natives and establishment of a new ethnostate atop their corpses. You are definitely racist as fuck even disregarding the obvious immigration rhetoric and conservative talking points
I'm not conservative. Because I have those views does not make me conservative. I would never vote for a conservative party that guts social programs.
"Doesn't believe in transgenders"
Genuinely funny.
Aging boomers are costing the healthcare system a lot of money. So there's a need to increase tax revenue to cover the cost. When an immigrant comes to the country they immediately start working and therefore immediately starts paying taxes.
A lot of it is down to how lopsided the demographics are with an overly high percentage of retired population.
In economics you can't solve one problem without creating others. But the problems solved are bigger than the problems created. And housing problems are a temporary problem. As boomers start dying off, the situation will correct itself, housing will be freed up and healthcare costs will decrease.
You really think it's going to play out like that, it really isn't. 90% of homeowners in Canada are wealthy: statscan Toronto has the highest unemployment rate in Canada: statscan. Do you live where these international students live and are trying to claim asylum? I've worked with them, talked with them, and are with them. And they have the same thing every ethnic background does when they come here, keep their customs and fuck assimilation. And I'm not talking about food or religion., I'm talking about mannerisms. I come from immigrants, but my family assimilated like you are supposed to, got nowhere near the treatment these people get, but don't go barking up a tree and go on a hunger strike in a country they are not even a citizen in.
I was curious so I found the article:
https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/disney-executive-caught-saying-company-wont-hire-white-men-rl1/
The quote is exactly what normal people assume it is, out of context and not the entire quote.
For specific roles. That's pretty fcking obvious. You're not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid.
Ironically if they did hire a white man to play The Little Mermaid, the hard right nutjobs would be screaming that it was part of a "woke trans agenda" to normalize crossdressing and eliminate the traditional American male from society lol
It’s not about the point. It’s bout how you can spin it.
I mean, the little mermaid should be a danish woman. Like thats where the tale comes from. if they want a diverse movie, why not use a tale from somewhere that isnt europe?
Did you also know there's no talking crab in the original story by Hans Christian Andersen? Since we're being faithful to the original.
Well, if you didnt want to make the little mermaid, why call it that and say its based on the tale?
Like Moana or Mulan?
Exactly!
cultural appropiation
So, you're saying they're sexist and racist, and we should all be enraged and immediately donate to our favourite bigots?
I'm buying a ton of Disney stuff right now to throw on the bonfire tonight.
There are valid reasons for hating on Disney though.. like what they've done to Star Wars.
Agreed. Want to add that (in my opinion, at least) Lucas's Episodes I, II & III didn't do the series any favors either. :-(
They expanded on the world building and action superbly, but Lucas isn't a people person, and it shows
The Prequels were more world ruining movies than world building movies.
Or the fact that they donate a shit ton of money to conservative politicians.
The original 20 minute video in the article makes it clear he's talking about job roles, and mentions writers a few times (admittedly not close enough to draw an 100% certain link). I don't think it's enough to discredit this just based on the assumption that he's talking about actors or that there isn't enough context. Obviously it's vague enough that we can't draw any solid conclusions, so I agree with you there.
The main reason I think this is bullshit is that the guy's testimony isn't credible for two main reasons:
These two points, regardless of how true his story is, give him an ulterior motive for embellishing the story and exaggerating facts, which ultimately means we can't trust this.
I'd like to see a full investigation, as with any accusation of discrimination. But we all know that when nothing turns up, it wouldn't shut the right wingers up
Personally, I would love to see the little mermaid played by a big, burly man.
Terry Crewes would be perfect for the role
Then what kind of absolute unit can even be cast for daddy Tritron?
Tritron obviously will be a femboy
Finally, roles opening up for me 😳
Watch Disney cast the rock 🙃
Don't you tell me what to do.
🎶 You’re not going to hire a white man to play the little mermaid. 🎶
“No way in hell are we hiring a white man to play miles morales”
I don't know, genderswapping the roles doesn't seem that far fetched for Disney
Terry Crews as Little Mermaid confirmed?
They already remade Little Mermaid too recently. Terry Crews as Rapunzel, though, is still on the table.
but Terry is bald, so...
oh god.
"Rapunzel, yo! Let down your pubes!"
About time
As much as I dislike Disney as a company that does sound interesting... really actually brings up so many new possibilities to revisit the classics!
Disney the company being evil doesn’t mean the folks that work on their products are too
Sure doesn't.
Furthering that, they use the word agent. Specifically referring actors.
Lots of writers and other crew have agents. It's not clear from the article if that's what's being referred to though.
Sure, but they also said role. Which can just mean job position, is more commonly used for casted actors.
Your first mistake was going to reddit at all. Your second mistake was going to the y'all qaeda subs.
y'all qaeda... I'll have to remember that one.
Yokel Haram
Vanilla ISIS
Coup Klux Klan
The version I've heard is "coup cucks klan"
It just randomly appears on the news feed. Out of curiosity, I went deeper and lol'd.
Knowing r/conservative, Disney was probably talking about hiring someone to play Tina Turner in a biopic, or something like that.
That was going to be Rowan Atkinson’s Oscar role! The woke brigade ROBBED HIM!
Nah, according to the articles, it includes writers and executives.
That is not what the article says.
There have been multiple links in the comments to the articles, hours before your comment. Which part exactly said it includes writers and executives?
The original post.
This is the part where you point out what you mean.
Just read it, its like half way down
It sounds like you won't have any trouble copying and pasting the part you're talking about right here, unless it doesn't exist.
I love vague conversations. It really seals the entire argument, don't you think?
(Just in case you're really as slow as your comments imply you are, I am specifically telling you that you are wrong and we all know you're refusing to provide any actual evidence whatsoever, because you also know you're wrong)
Now, Ive proven I can read an article. Can you do the same?
Lol have you though? Really?
Where you able to read the rest of the words as well, or are you just going to ignore those?
You're better off going back to the conservative cave than trying to talk to the rest of us.
Its pretty black and white. How would you interpret those quotes?
Do you have a link?
Interestingly this statement is only presented completely without context. What role where they talking about? I'm sure Steven Miller wouldn't be satisfied until white men in blackface are playing every role in whatever it is they're talking about lol
Executives and writers were drectly mentioned
I just read one of the linked articles. It didn't say this.
By who?
I also would not hire a white man to play the new Psylocke. No context quotes mean we get to insert our own, right?
Psylocke sounds really close to uhh...something.
I really hope the character isn't Jewish lol.
Edit: Damn alright fine lol, let him be a Jewish superhero named something two letters off from a Jewish slur, I didn't realize that'd be so popular around here.
Dude, come on. Everyone knows the classic comic character Goldsylockstein isn't Jewish.
They were looking for someone to play Martin Luther King.
I don't see any punctuation in that quote, so I'd bet there's a lot of context missing
"... To play Frozone"
The article: https://insidethemagic.net/2024/06/disney-executive-caught-saying-company-wont-hire-white-men-rl1/
Who would want to work at Disney tbh
Considering they employ 200,000 people, I’d say quite a lot.
"...because we've probably already hired 90% of them in the history of our company"
oh nooooo poor little white men it's so hard for them
Hire for what, a janitor? Sounds legit.
I mean. The US has alot of white people so whatever, stupid whining. But here in Canada....
IIRC Canada's actually touching similar demographic diversity to the US, the difference is more in what demographics specifically since Canada tended to draw from the corners of the British Empire specifically while the US would draw folks from all the rest of the world as well.
Canada had massive immigration from India, and we just started trying to put a lid on that because we realized that it was a bad idea to let in so many people at once. The immigration targets the government has set are bonkers.
It's always hilarious when the racists come out of the woodwork
Calling me racist while not showing how in racist.
We can all see your comments buddy. You should try reading them too.
I can read, thanks for the concern.
Why would you think I'm concerned about you? Lol
Considering after 15 seconds of looking at your profile, there's this...
yeah I think it's pretty obvious
The only ones to concern troll about their targets to the extent you do and complain about everything that doesn't align with their political views being "too political" are conservatives. You aren't concerned about the wellbeing of anyone, you want to exterminate the "others" and think you're smart by using the most basic manipulation tactic of conservatives – feigning concern for the welfare of the people you want to get rid of as a means to make people think your position is acceptable.
Also you support the displacement and genocide of Palestinians by Israel. You seem to be joyful at the thought of Israel's colonization of Palestine resulting in the destruction of the natives and establishment of a new ethnostate atop their corpses. You are definitely racist as fuck even disregarding the obvious immigration rhetoric and conservative talking points
I'm not conservative. Because I have those views does not make me conservative. I would never vote for a conservative party that guts social programs.
"Doesn't believe in transgenders"
Genuinely funny.
Aging boomers are costing the healthcare system a lot of money. So there's a need to increase tax revenue to cover the cost. When an immigrant comes to the country they immediately start working and therefore immediately starts paying taxes.
A lot of it is down to how lopsided the demographics are with an overly high percentage of retired population.
In economics you can't solve one problem without creating others. But the problems solved are bigger than the problems created. And housing problems are a temporary problem. As boomers start dying off, the situation will correct itself, housing will be freed up and healthcare costs will decrease.
You really think it's going to play out like that, it really isn't. 90% of homeowners in Canada are wealthy: statscan Toronto has the highest unemployment rate in Canada: statscan. Do you live where these international students live and are trying to claim asylum? I've worked with them, talked with them, and are with them. And they have the same thing every ethnic background does when they come here, keep their customs and fuck assimilation. And I'm not talking about food or religion., I'm talking about mannerisms. I come from immigrants, but my family assimilated like you are supposed to, got nowhere near the treatment these people get, but don't go barking up a tree and go on a hunger strike in a country they are not even a citizen in.
Canada is 70% white and the US is 60% white. What’s your point?