If he's not going to debate her then Harris should literally give a 90 minute PowerPoint on project 2025 and what it will do to your pay your healthcare, your environment everything..
Instead, a comparison between Trump's project 2025 vs her goals might be better. Actually look to the future, instead of the doom and gloom of "don't vote for him" would do wonders to get people excited to vote, which helps turnout.
Very well said!
Throw in some Venn diagrams for good measure!
Great plan.
With a picture of the former president on an empty chair emphasizing and underlining his conscious decision not to participate because he knows he can’t debate her on these points.
Clint Eastwood tried that and it wasn't a good look.
See if Disney still has the Hillary turned Trump animatronic and use that as the debate stand in.
Wait, was it really actually a Hillary animatronic at some point?
A PowerPoint will help her connect with the youth. Perhaps she can let them know how project 2025 will roll out over the first few quarters.
Yeah! As a youth, there's nothing that excites me more than quarterly projections!
How dare thee disgrace the holy power point!
May I introduce thee to our lord and savior Perun.
Would it help excite you and retain your attention if she sprinkled some spicy memes in the powerpoint?
One would think that a Project 2025 fascist government that has no qualms about shooting protesters should be enough to keep your attention about it. But if it takes memes, I'm sure she'd do it.
With a bonus Kahoot quiz afterwards. Winner takes all!
With venn diagrams too
Guys, have you noticed that Harris laughs. Like when she finds something funny she laughs at it. Fucked up, right?
When she was a prosecutor, she put people in jail that pled guilty or were convicted by a jury. What a monster.
Maybe she’s secretly been assuming the duties of the President when Biden wasn’t feeling well. We should look into that. That would make her… bad somehow.
Is she actually Hillary Clinton in a mask, maybe? Can we test that on 4chan?
Good thing we always have old faithful- racism and sexism. That’ll swing those undecideds.
My gods I hope he blurts out 'Black Hillary' in one of his rants
What color suit does she wear?
Man you wouldn't believe...
Unbelievable. I can excuse the demented babbling, corruption, fraud, schoolyard name calling, and brazen lying from my side. But the Dems' insistence on wearing unprofessional suit colors is always shocking and unacceptable.
I'll take a nice pantsuit in a casual color rather than a shiny red tie that hangs down past the pantsfly
I think the red tie is compensating for something.
It's so weird that they tried to concentrate on her laugh. All it did was highlight that Trump never laughs or shows any kind of positive emotion, like some kind of hateful little goblin.
How come that live, laugh, love shit is plastered all over every repubs house I've ever been to?
Have we looked at her emails? There has to be something there.
We probably share the same opinion but if sexism and racist swings any 'undecideds' that just means they're conservatives that are too pussy to say it out loud and pretend they aren't while gargling trumps balls.
That's true BUT casual/subconscious racism and sexism is extremely common in American culture. The fact is that there is a double standard for women and minorities that most people hold to at least some extent. It's been studied time and time again that there are things that white men can do that are viewed negatively when done by a woman/minority. And that's going to affect this election.
I heard she's a lion camel.
Is she mythological? Like a sphinx?
Or like one of those weird camel leopards.
Stupid fucking long horses
Maybe she’s secretly been assuming the duties of the President when Biden wasn’t feeling well. We should look into that. That would make her… bad somehow.
You forgot the part where they say this while simultaneously demanding she invoke the 25th Amendment.
Good thing we always have old faithful- racism and sexism. That’ll swing those undecideds.
At work, both the resident Gen-X divorced-dad asshole and the luddite boomer have taken to complaining that “We’re all going to be called racists and misogynists for not voting for Kamala” while grousing about hating her more than Biden, never once mentioning a single point of policy that they dislike.
The racism and sexism is great. They're calling her a DEI hire and mispronouncing her name. You would think senators who have worked with her for before she was even vice president for four years would know how to pronounce her name by now. So fucking childish.
Never mind that they never call her by last name. Totally fine for Biden or Obama tho. "Kah-mahla" quite clearly stresses that she is both a woman and non-white. Couldn't get that with Hillary.
He should create a platform with goals and policies with detailed plans that will appeal to enough voters to get him elected.
When he was president he had all of that, a beautiful healthcare plan that would cover everyone and an infrastructure plan that strengthen the nation. They were always putting the finishing touches on them and they would be ready in two weeks. For four years. Guy seems to have trouble with finishing touches.
Maybe he was too busy with other types of touches.
'Too perfectionist' is his only weakness
It's almost 8:00 and I'm certain I'm not gonna hear a better joke today already!
My favorite was "I did not have sectional relations with that sofa!"
That's good too. 😄
Well, the least you can say is no-one would have seen that one coming
Republicans being unable to stop themselves from being racist and sexist might well play in Harris' favour here. The vast majority of racists and sexists were going to vote for Trump anyway, but this type of approach and messaging might alienate some moderate undecided voters.
Just hours after she announced her candidacy, Trump’s super PAC released an ad attacking Harris, claiming she “covered up Joe’s obvious mental decline” and that she “knew Joe couldn’t do the job, so she did it” herself.
Is this really the own he thinks it is? By most measures the Biden/Harris term has been fairly successful so giving your opponent credit for the lions share of that work is certainly an interesting strategy. And the coverup is a fairly toothless accusation since Biden actually stepped down in time.
wait so their attack is saying she is the one really responsible for one of the best presidential terms of my lifetime. bold move cotton.
Would be funny to run back the "I approve of this message" counterplay, but I think they have too much respect for Biden to do that.
Yeah but I don't think you were considering voting for Trump... I think that in practice associating her with an unpopular president's actions isn't a bad idea when her main selling point is that she isn't either Biden or Trump.
Well unpopular unless you are comparing to nixon or bush junior or donald trump approval ratings.
Biden's approval rating is lower than Trump's is right now and lower than Trump's was at any time between this point during his presidency and the 2020 election, although it isn't lower than Trump's was at the lowest point during his presidency.
It's also lower than Nixon's or GWB's were at any point during their first terms (although GWB isn't a useful reference due to 9/11).
yeah Im comparing presidential terms but im not so sure trumps was not lower at the end of his one term but again I was just using full term ratings although bidens is tentative since we can't get the last 6 monthsish.
Trump's was lower at the end of his term than Biden's is now, but I'm not sure how relevant that is since it was after everyone knew that Trump had lost the election (and then after the January 6th riot).
He is deeply misogynistic. He doesn’t understand - and is in fact frightened by - intelligent, incisive, and competent women.
The real reason trump won't debate
Have they tried using the N-word yet? That always works when you have literally nothing else to fall back on.
I mean, that fox host came real close with "colored" when he referred to one of the historic black fraternities/sororities.
Give it time.
Funny thing is, if she wins, I’m sure they will slowly say the quiet part out loud more and more every year. So I agree it’s all a matter of time.
"Show us the birth certificate, cuz she certainly doesn't look American"
They already started that.
I am pretty sure they are having internal debates about whether to go for the hard R or not. Word is they are favoring skipping it in an attempt to appeal to a younger audience.
There is a strong sense by many in the Democrat Party - namely Barack Hussein Obama - that Kamala Harris is a Marxist fraud who cannot beat President Trump, and they are still holding out for someone "better." Therefore, it would be inappropriate to schedule things with Harris because Democrats very well could still change their minds
Trump’s statement explaining why he refuses to debate says it all. Pathetic.
Holy shit, Obama's middle name is Hussein!? This changes everything. I'm voting Trump now!
/s
Born in the deserts of Arrakis
literally
So many straws!
Thank you.
Came here for this comment. I don’t think the word “literally” means what they think it does.
Well, they're metaphorically grasping for a way to attack Harris, and one of the things they're trying is a claim that she'll ban plastic straws. So they're metaphorically grasping at literal straws?
who's anyone kidding? GOP will just follow their usual strategy of shouting lies upon lies upon lies while pounding their fists and stomping their feet, and make everyone waste time debunking the bullshit hurricane
at least they have 4 months instead of 4 years
Tough for a convicted criminal to try to be pro-prosecution against a former D.A.
I’m honestly surprised they haven’t brought up her Canadian background.
By referencing her Canadian background, they can subtly frame her as being “exotic” and “foreign” and “liberal” in a way that doesn’t sound racist (but which would provably still resonate with racists).
Also, “Canadian Kamala” has good alliteration. I could imagine Trump using it.
Edit: Oh, “Canada Kamala” sounds even better.
First of all, please don't give them any ideas.
Second of all, I genuinely think Canadian Kamala might be too long for Trump and his followers. A good alliteration sure, but I could more see him using something simpler like Killer Kamala, after finding (or more honestly making up) a reason to use it.
Canuck Kamala?
Hmm, that could work, although it might not be clear enough for Trumpons.
Frankly, I don't know if Trump could come up with that on his own and let's face it, it has to be his own idea.
The best he has come up with so far is “Lyin’ Kamala Harris” lmao
This is the "And it's Harris coming up the inside!" part of the horse race.
In October they'll swing it hard back to trump to goose all the sweet sweet clicks out of you poors before the election.
It's gotta suck living life this cynical.
Can confirm.
It’s okay. Except for the fascism. The sodas are pretty good.
Are you trying to say that elections are not real, or that the media falsifies polling results to fit some planned, orchestrated narrative?
The latter
Interesting. How do you square in your mind that there are hundreds of different polling agencies? Each news org has its own, then there's countless independent ones as well. There's easily hundreds.
How does that all get coordinated and falsified with some orchestrated media plan without whistleblowers complaining?
Nothing’s usually falsified, per se, it’s more that pollsters have a range of questions and results and one of them is going to “suit” a news agency. Or a PR group, or whatever organization needs the “power of polling results” to move clicks.
For example, we’re in Prime Polling Season, with a huge election coming up, so the polling results are all going to be in the same neighborhood, question-wise, usually. It’s better for corporate news if the race is very close, so all the polls we’ll read about are going to say that.
If a poll came back heavily - lopsidedly - for one candidate over the other, we likely wouldn’t hear about it. Because that would be a problem. They can’t dig into the poll too much they just need a headline out of it.
This is all outside of the methodological problems with polls, it’s just specific to the “uses” that corporate news requires of polls.
I don't see much evidence of cherry picking polling results, they generally all report their own, or someone like Pew. CNN reports CNN polls, Fox reports Fox polls, 538 reports 538 polls, etc etc. Any person who wishes can check between them, it's very easy. They usually provide the specific questions asked as well.
I guess it’s ironic that this article doesn’t refer to any polling. No doubt it will come up again and again because corporate news has 24 hours to fill, and outside of gaffes and releases, all they’ve got are talking heads and polls.
If he's not going to debate her then Harris should literally give a 90 minute PowerPoint on project 2025 and what it will do to your pay your healthcare, your environment everything..
Instead, a comparison between Trump's project 2025 vs her goals might be better. Actually look to the future, instead of the doom and gloom of "don't vote for him" would do wonders to get people excited to vote, which helps turnout.
Very well said!
Throw in some Venn diagrams for good measure!
Great plan.
With a picture of the former president on an empty chair emphasizing and underlining his conscious decision not to participate because he knows he can’t debate her on these points.
Clint Eastwood tried that and it wasn't a good look.
See if Disney still has the Hillary turned Trump animatronic and use that as the debate stand in.
Wait, was it really actually a Hillary animatronic at some point?
A PowerPoint will help her connect with the youth. Perhaps she can let them know how project 2025 will roll out over the first few quarters.
Yeah! As a youth, there's nothing that excites me more than quarterly projections!
How dare thee disgrace the holy power point! May I introduce thee to our lord and savior Perun.
Would it help excite you and retain your attention if she sprinkled some spicy memes in the powerpoint?
One would think that a Project 2025 fascist government that has no qualms about shooting protesters should be enough to keep your attention about it. But if it takes memes, I'm sure she'd do it.
With a bonus Kahoot quiz afterwards. Winner takes all!
With venn diagrams too
Guys, have you noticed that Harris laughs. Like when she finds something funny she laughs at it. Fucked up, right?
When she was a prosecutor, she put people in jail that pled guilty or were convicted by a jury. What a monster.
Maybe she’s secretly been assuming the duties of the President when Biden wasn’t feeling well. We should look into that. That would make her… bad somehow.
Is she actually Hillary Clinton in a mask, maybe? Can we test that on 4chan?
Good thing we always have old faithful- racism and sexism. That’ll swing those undecideds.
My gods I hope he blurts out 'Black Hillary' in one of his rants
What color suit does she wear?
Man you wouldn't believe...
Unbelievable. I can excuse the demented babbling, corruption, fraud, schoolyard name calling, and brazen lying from my side. But the Dems' insistence on wearing unprofessional suit colors is always shocking and unacceptable.
I'll take a nice pantsuit in a casual color rather than a shiny red tie that hangs down past the pantsfly
I think the red tie is compensating for something.
Absolutely disqualifying!
I bet she even asks for DIJON MUSTARD!
It's so weird that they tried to concentrate on her laugh. All it did was highlight that Trump never laughs or shows any kind of positive emotion, like some kind of hateful little goblin.
How come that live, laugh, love shit is plastered all over every repubs house I've ever been to?
Have we looked at her emails? There has to be something there.
We probably share the same opinion but if sexism and racist swings any 'undecideds' that just means they're conservatives that are too pussy to say it out loud and pretend they aren't while gargling trumps balls.
That's true BUT casual/subconscious racism and sexism is extremely common in American culture. The fact is that there is a double standard for women and minorities that most people hold to at least some extent. It's been studied time and time again that there are things that white men can do that are viewed negatively when done by a woman/minority. And that's going to affect this election.
I heard she's a lion camel.
Is she mythological? Like a sphinx?
Or like one of those weird camel leopards.
Stupid fucking long horses
You forgot the part where they say this while simultaneously demanding she invoke the 25th Amendment.
At work, both the resident Gen-X divorced-dad asshole and the luddite boomer have taken to complaining that “We’re all going to be called racists and misogynists for not voting for Kamala” while grousing about hating her more than Biden, never once mentioning a single point of policy that they dislike.
The racism and sexism is great. They're calling her a DEI hire and mispronouncing her name. You would think senators who have worked with her for before she was even vice president for four years would know how to pronounce her name by now. So fucking childish.
Never mind that they never call her by last name. Totally fine for Biden or Obama tho. "Kah-mahla" quite clearly stresses that she is both a woman and non-white. Couldn't get that with Hillary.
He should create a platform with goals and policies with detailed plans that will appeal to enough voters to get him elected.
When he was president he had all of that, a beautiful healthcare plan that would cover everyone and an infrastructure plan that strengthen the nation. They were always putting the finishing touches on them and they would be ready in two weeks. For four years. Guy seems to have trouble with finishing touches.
Maybe he was too busy with other types of touches.
'Too perfectionist' is his only weakness
It's almost 8:00 and I'm certain I'm not gonna hear a better joke today already!
in another thread about Vance someone called him a sectional predator.
My favorite was "I did not have sectional relations with that sofa!"
That's good too. 😄
Well, the least you can say is no-one would have seen that one coming
Republicans being unable to stop themselves from being racist and sexist might well play in Harris' favour here. The vast majority of racists and sexists were going to vote for Trump anyway, but this type of approach and messaging might alienate some moderate undecided voters.
Is this really the own he thinks it is? By most measures the Biden/Harris term has been fairly successful so giving your opponent credit for the lions share of that work is certainly an interesting strategy. And the coverup is a fairly toothless accusation since Biden actually stepped down in time.
wait so their attack is saying she is the one really responsible for one of the best presidential terms of my lifetime. bold move cotton.
Would be funny to run back the "I approve of this message" counterplay, but I think they have too much respect for Biden to do that.
Yeah but I don't think you were considering voting for Trump... I think that in practice associating her with an unpopular president's actions isn't a bad idea when her main selling point is that she isn't either Biden or Trump.
Well unpopular unless you are comparing to nixon or bush junior or donald trump approval ratings.
Biden's approval rating is lower than Trump's is right now and lower than Trump's was at any time between this point during his presidency and the 2020 election, although it isn't lower than Trump's was at the lowest point during his presidency.
It's also lower than Nixon's or GWB's were at any point during their first terms (although GWB isn't a useful reference due to 9/11).
yeah Im comparing presidential terms but im not so sure trumps was not lower at the end of his one term but again I was just using full term ratings although bidens is tentative since we can't get the last 6 monthsish.
Trump's was lower at the end of his term than Biden's is now, but I'm not sure how relevant that is since it was after everyone knew that Trump had lost the election (and then after the January 6th riot).
He is deeply misogynistic. He doesn’t understand - and is in fact frightened by - intelligent, incisive, and competent women.
The real reason trump won't debate
Have they tried using the N-word yet? That always works when you have literally nothing else to fall back on.
I mean, that fox host came real close with "colored" when he referred to one of the historic black fraternities/sororities.
Give it time.
Funny thing is, if she wins, I’m sure they will slowly say the quiet part out loud more and more every year. So I agree it’s all a matter of time.
"Show us the birth certificate, cuz she certainly doesn't look American"
They already started that.
I am pretty sure they are having internal debates about whether to go for the hard R or not. Word is they are favoring skipping it in an attempt to appeal to a younger audience.
Trump’s statement explaining why he refuses to debate says it all. Pathetic.
Holy shit, Obama's middle name is Hussein!? This changes everything. I'm voting Trump now!
/s
Born in the deserts of Arrakis
literally
So many straws!
Thank you.
Came here for this comment. I don’t think the word “literally” means what they think it does.
Well, they're metaphorically grasping for a way to attack Harris, and one of the things they're trying is a claim that she'll ban plastic straws. So they're metaphorically grasping at literal straws?
who's anyone kidding? GOP will just follow their usual strategy of shouting lies upon lies upon lies while pounding their fists and stomping their feet, and make everyone waste time debunking the bullshit hurricane
at least they have 4 months instead of 4 years
Tough for a convicted criminal to try to be pro-prosecution against a former D.A.
I’m honestly surprised they haven’t brought up her Canadian background.
By referencing her Canadian background, they can subtly frame her as being “exotic” and “foreign” and “liberal” in a way that doesn’t sound racist (but which would provably still resonate with racists).
Also, “Canadian Kamala” has good alliteration. I could imagine Trump using it.
Edit: Oh, “Canada Kamala” sounds even better.
First of all, please don't give them any ideas.
Second of all, I genuinely think Canadian Kamala might be too long for Trump and his followers. A good alliteration sure, but I could more see him using something simpler like Killer Kamala, after finding (or more honestly making up) a reason to use it.
Canuck Kamala?
Hmm, that could work, although it might not be clear enough for Trumpons.
Frankly, I don't know if Trump could come up with that on his own and let's face it, it has to be his own idea.
The best he has come up with so far is “Lyin’ Kamala Harris” lmao
That's a bold strategy.
Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years
this is amusing af
Don't be fooled.
This is the "And it's Harris coming up the inside!" part of the horse race.
In October they'll swing it hard back to trump to goose all the sweet sweet clicks out of you poors before the election.
It's gotta suck living life this cynical.
Can confirm.
It’s okay. Except for the fascism. The sodas are pretty good.
Are you trying to say that elections are not real, or that the media falsifies polling results to fit some planned, orchestrated narrative?
The latter
Interesting. How do you square in your mind that there are hundreds of different polling agencies? Each news org has its own, then there's countless independent ones as well. There's easily hundreds.
How does that all get coordinated and falsified with some orchestrated media plan without whistleblowers complaining?
Nothing’s usually falsified, per se, it’s more that pollsters have a range of questions and results and one of them is going to “suit” a news agency. Or a PR group, or whatever organization needs the “power of polling results” to move clicks.
For example, we’re in Prime Polling Season, with a huge election coming up, so the polling results are all going to be in the same neighborhood, question-wise, usually. It’s better for corporate news if the race is very close, so all the polls we’ll read about are going to say that.
If a poll came back heavily - lopsidedly - for one candidate over the other, we likely wouldn’t hear about it. Because that would be a problem. They can’t dig into the poll too much they just need a headline out of it.
This is all outside of the methodological problems with polls, it’s just specific to the “uses” that corporate news requires of polls.
I don't see much evidence of cherry picking polling results, they generally all report their own, or someone like Pew. CNN reports CNN polls, Fox reports Fox polls, 538 reports 538 polls, etc etc. Any person who wishes can check between them, it's very easy. They usually provide the specific questions asked as well.
I guess it’s ironic that this article doesn’t refer to any polling. No doubt it will come up again and again because corporate news has 24 hours to fill, and outside of gaffes and releases, all they’ve got are talking heads and polls.