Ohio sheriff condemned for saying people with Harris yard signs should have their addresses recorded

floofloof@lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.world – 707 points – Ohio sheriff condemned for saying people with Harris yard signs should have their addresses recorded
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Likening people in the U.S. illegally to “human locusts,” Zuchowski wrote on a personal Facebook account and his campaign’s account: “When people ask me... What’s gonna happen if the Flip-Flopping, Laughing Hyena Wins?? I say ... write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards!” That way, Zuchowski continued, when migrants need places to live, “we’ll already have the addresses of their New families ... who supported their arrival!”

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Some of those that work forces

Are the same that burn crosses.

Oh SMCF, darling, could you please come up with something more original, and while you're at it could you make it grammatical, and maybe it could even scan and rhyme? This quotation only sticks in the mind because it's like the most irritating commercial jingle. Might as well be Only Daisy cottage cheese will do, Satisfying and fresh, so creamy and delish....

Edit: Some folks on the force are kissin' Trump's arse, while he's smoochin' Putin's, with prayers for the shootin's... Okay that's terrible but I didn't feel I should just tell you do do something and not even try myself

Amazing how you managed to say nothing valuable with so many words, yet still made it clear you don't know what yours talking about.

Commercial jingle? Cottage cheese? Where the fuck do you think that quote is from or what it is referencing?

Fuck you, I won't do what you told me! Motherfucker! Ugh!

Oh so worth repeating and repeating and repeating

Are you okay?

They are very clearly quoting lyrics from the Rage against the machine song killing in the name of.

But if you were born after 2005 I can comprehend how that reference is missed.

Kids these days are out of touch.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

Just quoting the source. That quotation is from a very repetitive song, referencing the LAPD, and that's the last line.

This might be the single strangest comment I've ever read

I am just so tired of that stupid line from that stupid repetitive song. Yes I get that the LAPD is rooted in the KKK, I lived in the Rampart District during its infamous era. But there's been so many better words written about fascist cops, so why does someone have to necromance this stupid lyric every time?

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while you're at it could you make it grammatical, and maybe it could even scan and rhyme?

I can do that:

Some who work forces

Also twerk horses.

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I think this terrorist cop needs to spend some time in the state penitentiary

he won't. it's up to us to punish conservatives.

Anyone else feel like we've returned to some era where people in positions of power no longer get punished? What the hap is fuckening?

We never really left that era, they were just good at hiding it for a while.

I'd say it's more that we have a short memory as a society, and that they never really bothered to hide it, we're just noticing it again.

Nah, at most people stepped down on disgrace. I mean what do we have to go on here, Nixon stepping down from threat of impeachment, Clinton taking a b****** in the oval office?

You have to go all the way down to congressman to find anybody in prison. As you go down through congressman and governors a large number of them have been overturned.

Look at the amount of s*** that Trump did outright illegal that would have gotten anybody in middle or lower class throw away for decades. And he still walking free. Maybe we'll get lucky soon I don't know...

Maybe we'll get lucky and change that shortly...

Wasn't Nixon so far gone with Alzheimer's that they wouldn't have been able to get him certified as of sound mind?

I think you are thinking of Reagan. He went downhill quick. We were all joking around or semi joking that it was Nancy running the White House at that point.

Nixon was a little paranoid and erratic around the watergate scandal but that's to be expected in high political office and are about to be handed your ass. He lived on for another 20 years after office giving interviews and writing.

Fair, we get taught a bit of American history at school in Canada, but not loads, and I usually just spaced out during those bits.

Condemned? Arrested.

If only

The Ohio secretary of state’s office said it did not plan to take any action. “Our office has determined the sheriff’s comments don’t violate election laws,” said Dan Lusheck, a spokesperson for Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose. “Elected officials are accountable to their constituents, and the sheriff can answer for himself about the substance of his remarks.”

Apparently threats and intimidation don't count as long as elections are involved.

Apparently threats and intimidation don’t no laws at all count as long as elections are involved.

it's really time we stopped marveling at humanity's slide into dystopia and do something about it, don't you agree?

Great, so it’s up to people of good conscience to spend their time organizing to raise money and awareness in order to try and hold this sheriff accountable for voter intimidation. Instead of, you know, law enforcement. Wonderful system.

And this is why popular vote may not be a good way of choosing a sheriff. It produces some truly awful pick me candidates who are more interested in political power and grandstanding than serving their office.

Without a strong code of ethics backed up by the law people can get away with a lot of bullshit.

This guy should resign and if not then disbarred for his conduct. It boggles my mind that elected officials have no oversight. Instead he will probably face no repercussions for othering people and denigrating his office.

Honestly I would prefer it be an appointment but every election there should be a confidence vote where if at least 50% of people don't approve of them they get barred from office

That is an interesting proposal. I think we should spend a lot more time kicking around alternatives and then trying them out.

Surely the people who want these positions of power are rarely the ones that should have them.

I don't buy that whole trope about how the people that deserve power are the people that don't want it. That may be true for such a person at first, but if they're the sort of good person who can recognize policy failures and offer popular solutions, at a certain point it becomes them to fight against those policy failures. And if that person recognizes that public office is the best way to do it, wanting to run for office would be a perfectly natural desire.

For sure, I mean I get what you are saying.

You can't deny that powerful positions attract bad actors though. How we deal with that is probably more important than sweeping generalizations like the one I made.

he won't resign and they will keep electing idiots like him. THEY are the problem, not the idiots that THEY vote in. the solutions are simple.

I like it being an elected position, rather than the police or local government appointing someone. That way if someone is egregiously against the grain of their community the community can act.

However, like so many elected positions, there should be real minimum qualifications to get on the ballot, like a 4 year degree or equivalent experience in a related field, a neutral third party psych eval, etc.

Will I be banned for posting his address? He is a public employee so it's publicly available data

I say do it.

with a new account lol

Posting where to find that information will probably be OK.

I think we are allowed to say that the address he uses for collecting check donations goes to a house with a pool and two cars and an RV parked around it.

Edit: And 9 American flags just in the front of the house, WTF

Please tell me “condemned” is new slang for fired.

Nope, he'll probably be re-elected by a landslide

The most depressing thing about the last 9 years or so, apart from climate doom, is discovering that fascism turns out to be extremely popular.

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Ohio revised Code Section 2909.23 - Making terroristic threat

**(A)** No person shall threaten to commit or threaten to cause to be committed a specified offense when both of the following apply:

**(1)** The person makes the threat with purpose to do any of the following:

**(a)** Intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

**(b)** Influence the policy of any government by intimidation or coercion;

**(c)** Affect the conduct of any government by the threat or by the specified offense.

**(2)** As a result of the threat, the person causes a reasonable expectation or fear of the imminent commission of the specified offense.

**(B)** It is not a defense to a charge of a violation of this section that the defendant did not have the intent or capability to commit the threatened specified offense or that the threat was not made to a person who was a subject of the threatened specified offense.

**(C)** Whoever violates this section is guilty of making a terroristic threat, a felony of the third degree. Section 2909.25 of the Revised Code applies regarding an offender who is convicted of or pleads guilty to a violation of this section.

R.C. §2909.23

. . . just sayin'.

Fascist piece of shit. Also, I hate this fucking ridiculous argument they take up - that people that support immigration have to put them up in their houses, personally? WTAF?

I'll accept that if people who vote against abortion access are banned from having them

No. Voting against abortion means they must now house, feed, and maintain legal responsibility for all children who would have been aborted, through adulthood.

This would require that the government be able to retrieve your individual voting record, and then stand in the way of your healthcare based on how you vote. Sounds like a neofascist pipedream.

I, for one, don't accept your authoritarian proposal.

Look, if it's gonna be a fascist dictatorship anyway.....

(To be clear, I'm not saying if the Dems win that's what it'll be.)

in my experience police do not like it when you dox them

it is especially true with secret police and ex police

i am disappointed that the photo is not accompanied by the address.

I'm not interested in doxxing anybody, because I don't believe in terrorism.

But I do think this sheriff would feel very differently about having his home address tracked and shared.

He could literally be any one of the "Bruce Zuchowski"'s listed on the Inerwebs as living in Portage county Ohio.

There's just no way to know!

Yeah, an equivalent response would be for a government figure to tell the public to record these judges addresses for making the decision to call it a non threat. Which of course would be threatening.

no one is going to magically show up to save humanity because you took the high road. pacifism only makes them stronger.

I'm not opposed to violence, especially when defending against fascism. But terrorism is the last bastion of desperate people. You don't respond to terrorism with terrorism, not to take the high road but because it is ineffective.

THIS is ONLY Terrorism when DEMOCRATS do it! But I'm a REPUBLICAN so this is OK!

Oohhh... Condemned... Absolutely no teeth

The entire sheriff's office got removed from providing security at a voting event. It's not actual election day stuff, at least not yet. But the city did send a message

For both law enforcement and magas I see the same thing over and over --

What? People think we're awful? Those people don't know us. By the way, I'm just gonna be over here being awful.

This guy managed to do it for both aspects of his personality.

Mommy, why is that awful man like that?

Because he chose to work in law enforcement, and to turn off his brain. Not necessarily in that order Bobby, not necessarily in that order...

Laughing Hyena

Setting aside the racism there, what exactly is the right's obsession with Kamala's laugh? I've heard "Cackling" as well.

Should I be inspired to hear that lord and savior Donald Trump never ever laughs - assuming that's even true?

Laughing Hyena

That's racism and misogyny, all bundled up into two words. The cackling thing is what they say when they think a woman isn't meek enough. They particularly say it about women in positions of power, especially if they have the nerve to look happy.

The discomfort towards having women in positions of power goes back to the bronze-age morality of the bible. It's the same reason the traditional churches don't allow women to head the church or preach: they believe woman let the devil tempt and deceive them, and then they went and "caused man to sin". Then Paul came along and made sure women were put in their place in the New Testament.

They believe anything that isn't "tough" or "manly" is weakness. They're just pathetic and unbelievably insecure

Time to inject noise in this database and put H signs everywhere at random

Abuse of office for political reasons. There should be a law to kick his sorry ass for this.

Hmmm, article doesn't even say what he's being condemned to, just that some people are pissed, which seems pretty irrelevant to the condemnation.

Sheriff is being voted on this year. Time to vote for the other guy.