Trump Announces Press Conference to Prove Election Was Stolen – Rolling Stone

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Trump Announces Plans to Finally Go Ahead and Prove Election Was Rigged
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Donald Trump announced plans to hold a press conference next week to present a "conclusive report" proving that the 2020 election in Georgia was rigged. This comes after Trump was recently indicted by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis for attempting to overturn the election results in Georgia. Trump claims the report will show election fraud and lead to "a complete exoneration" of all charges against him. However, critics argue it has been over two years since the election and Trump has not previously provided evidence of widespread fraud. The announcement also comes just hours after Trump lashed out at Willis for indicting him now rather than earlier. It remains to be seen whether Trump's promised report will actually contain new evidence that could substantively challenge the prior investigations.

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Holy shit he actually said "the report will come out next week". Like his healthcare solution. Or his infrastructure plan. It's all coming out next week.

Or his "stolen election" claims leading up to Jan 6th. People forget. But the whole thing was initially advertised as a reveal of damning proof.

Well, we sure did get a lot of damning proof that day… 

Time is a flat circle

All this has happened before. All this will happen again.

The wheel weaves and the man weave wills.

The ramblings of a traitor was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Crime. But is was a beginning.

Don’t forget his fucking tax returns too

Amazing how he "suddenly" has proof of the fraud that could have made him President.
He... lost it until now?
Did he finally find it while looking for more TOP SECRET documents in a box in another bathroom?
He will literally open his mouth, commit more crimes, and be in more trouble. I hope he gets himself jailed!

Drinking Game: Every time he says "perfect phone call" you drink a shot.

Drinking Game: Every time he says "perfect phone call" you drink a shot.

I believe that coercing people to die from alcohol poisoning is a criminal offense.

You could always do beer shots = less alcohol poisoning. How many shots in a keg????

He’s also going to show us Hunter Biden’s laptop and Hillary’s buttery males

Hey trump, why not give your "proof" to a court of law? Where it might actually be useful?? I mean what good is it showing your evidence to faux "news" viewers?? What are they gonna do, they cant get your out of an indictment.

So not only is he going to say the things he’s been told not to say- but he’s announcing when and where he plans to do it.

He no think good.

So he couldn't present the evidence in court to exonerate himself, but it magically appears after the fact for a press conference.... Interesting

The proof in court wouldn't exonerate him. Even if the election was rigged against him, he can't do illegal things the take it back.

Very true. Ok updated sentiment

So he couldn't present the evidence after the election and needed to break the law instead, but it magically appears after the fact for a press conference when he goes to trial

Exactly. Assuming that he actually has proof (big reach), then he would have had to know it before he started doing illegal stuff in 2020. Even then, the obvious question would be why didn't he go through the courts to fight it? Of course, he did and lost every time. This means that even if he does have proof now, he didn't have it when he was trying to steal the election "back" or he would have presented his proof then.

I'm not expecting any real evidence to be shown in this press conference. It will be an obvious attempt to induce rage in his base to distract from the facts presented in court.

We're literally watching a civil war / military takeover in realtime getting set.

The plan is to make it a week from today, so he can't be jailed before then for violating his court duties without Republican's claiming it's proof Biden is using the court system to silence him.

Then after he announces rubbish on Monday, he'll instead claim he's being silenced for revealing "the truth".

The only move that can be taken to counter this would be to move to trial sooner / almost immediately or for the normal republican's to make a signed letter acknowledging that trump is a psychopath

I'm an Aussie, but I wish you guys all the best dealing with this dictator-wannabee (and ya'll welcome here in Australia to counter the growing nonsense we're seeing Trump spread here too).

We’re literally watching a civil war / military takeover in realtime getting set.

No way. The American brass (i.e., military leadership) is well aware of these games and can see right through them. They're not going to move against Biden, certainly not for Trump.

If this becomes a civil war, it will end very very quickly. I guarantee the National Guard, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland, and the collective US armed forces have made to plans for the coming weeks/months and are paying very close attention.

My concern is that your general army grunt is not a great thinker and tends to be quite pro-Trump to begin with. How are they going to act if they think that they have been asked to oppress him?

This is why right wing ideology needs to be targeted as soon as it appears because it's like a disease that infects weak-minded people.

Think about the capital riots and how some of the police officers were accused of basically letting the rioters in...

I think this article would be a good read: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/11/05/what-happened-members-of-military-accused-of-storming-capitol-january-6.html

I guess what I'll say is, that's a valid concern, but they've been working on it. Keep in mind, there may have been a lot of folks compelled to go, but there were a lot more that had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Kind of related, there may have been police there, but police officers as a whole have gotten the job done investigating and processing Trump.

Based on my experience with the navy, it seemed like all the lowest rungs of the ladder are 18 year olds who barely care about their own jobs, let alone politics. You'd see fox news in the chiefs mess but surprisingly little demagoguery below e-3.

The Georgia case hasn't even been turned over to a judge yet, forget about a trial.

The 8/25 deadline is for the defendants to be turned over for arrest and arraignment. That's when he'll get a judge and we'll learn next steps.

Willis wants a trial within 6 months, so before 2/15/2024.

Put it to you this way... In the U.S., there are a lot more real gun carrying patriots than the trash that follows Trumpism. That shit would be squashed quickly if things broke out. Also, most of those people are old and fat. They make for easy targets. I'm not worried.

Isn’t doubling down on this with the indictment in hand especially stupid? Surely opening him to further charges?

And what, exactly, has he faced in terms of consequences for anything during his 77 years on this rock? There is pretty much zero chance he sees any jail time and he's well aware of this. So what has he got to loose? Might as well stir up shit in prep for a Jan 6 v2 in 2025.

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He's already set up his base to think the charges are fraudulent. Any additional charges will just compound their irrational beliefs.

I don't see how this isn't a brazen attempt to taint the jury pool. If he has evidence exonerating him he just needs to present it in court.

It's like every time Trump opens his mouth, he shows us his taint....

Absolutely. Stupid is as stupid does. The narcissist can't help himself, especially after drowning in his own Kool-aid. Hopefully the judge will revoke his bail and incarcerate him until trial, you know, like how any other defendant would be. Please! Prove to us that there's no separate treatment for the rich, even an ex-president! This is what we need!

Yep. It’s stupid shit like this that got him indicted in the first place.

"I'd love to show you the report, it's beautiful, and perfect, and it shows in so many ways how I'm innocent of all charges. My lawyers wept when they, true story! My lawyers were VISIBLY WEEPING as they read it. VISIBLY! But now, on the advice of those lawyers, I can't release it to you. I CAN'T! I want to, but I can't. They tell me it would tell these evil, nasty, prosecutors too much about our defense, so, you know, we can't have that."

Someone bet him he couldn’t get to 100 indictments by Wednesday, and he said, “hold my diet Coke!”

Not further charges but it can be referenced to furthering the conspiracy for the RICO charges. Overall that is a hard case to figure out though.

RICO charges in Georgia are far easier to prove than federal RICO charges.

Sure, but first amendment issues and generally proving something is not sincerely held seems difficult to me. The former is something appeals courts will decide while the latter is something a jury will decide.

"First Amendment issues" is a non starter and a Trump lawyer talking point. As Judge Chutkan so aptly said, "Mr. Trump, like every American, has a First Amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute." There are lots of kinds of speech which are illegal all by themselves. With respect to a RICO case, when acts of speech are "overt actions in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy," even otherwise benign speech can be illegal. Conspiring to commit a crime, and taking overt action to further that conspiracy, is a crime all by itself, even if the crime being conspired does not come to fruition.

Whether or not the conspirators' "sincerely held belief" was that "the election was stolen" is irrelevant. If that is what you sincerely believe, there are already legal procedures to deal with that; take your case(s) to court. Which the Trump team did, with zero success. Just because you don't like the outcome does not make doing an end run around the law and conspiring to change election outcomes in illegal ways "suddenly legal."

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Dope! Let's do it in court where if you're right we can restore you to your rightful office and if you're lying you'll go to prison for the rest of your life.

I'm willing to bet money the only reason he is doing this is because the judge told him to make his defense in court, not social media.

He's had 3 years and only threatens to show his hand weeks before receiving what could be a life sentence for himself?

It's a ploy, he wants to get censured so he can claim the evil libs won't let him share the truth, so his base is riled up enough to act again.

The "proof" going to be one of his indictment papers with his name crossed out and Biden's written beside it in red crayon.

He says “A Large, Complex, Detailed but irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference ... in Bedminster, New Jersey, ... along with infrastructure week and my beautiful health care plan that will completely and totally replace failed Obamacare"

Placesettings will be Obamas real birth certificate...

I could hold a press conference about how the world is flat and not round but that will not make it so. Trump is such a fucking moron. Even his Wharton professors thought so.

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles: ::: spoiler Click here to see the summary Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis indicted Donald Trump on Monday for working to overturn the 2020 presidential election in Georgia, just weeks after Special Counsel Jack Smith indicted him on federal charges for his efforts to subvert the democratic process nationwide.

It all seems pretty damning, but the wily former president has an ace up his sleeve: He’s going to simply prove the election was rigged and convince Willis and Smith to drop the charges.

“A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” Trump announced Tuesday morning on Truth Social.

The post came hours after Trump railed late at night against “an out of control and very corrupt” Willis.

Willis didn’t indict Trump two-and-a-half years ago because an investigation this sprawling takes a long time to actually complete.

It must take just as long to complete such a “Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT,” one that must be chock-full of new information all of the other investigative bodies who worked to uncover proof of fraud were unable to obtain. :::

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press conference

So, free publicity for his campaign I guess?

It'd be great if little to nobody showed up. Any serious reporter wouldn't want to go. Can you imagine how much drivel is gonna spew out at that event? It's a better venue for a comedian or comic reporter like Jordan Klepper as long as Klepper could ask pertinent questions. Remember, Orange Con Don didn't like doing press conferences as prez and he rarely answered questions. Answering those questions is hard you know. You just gotta change the subject and ramble long enough that his supporters don't even know what's being talked about anymore. Anyway, he's got snacks to eat and TV to watch. You know, stuff like OAN and Playboy.

Oh boy I can't wait to hear conclusive truths from possibly the biggest liar in history.