I wish there were more articles about tech not tech biz

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Just seems like everything is "this company did this to their employees" and less about "this novel messaging protocol offers these measured pros and cons." Or similar

And yes, I could post things, but I'm referring to what hits the top, 12h.

Can anyone rec communities with less of a biz and politics and wfh vs in-office vibe?

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But if this community community isn't flooded with tech business articles, where are people going to post insightful comments like "fuck Google" and "switch to Firefox"?

My bugbear is all the Linux circle-jerking. I get that the fediverse has a high nerd-count (I’m one of them), but the “switch to Linux” sentiment is so tedious. Yes, Linux is great for those that have the time or inclination to learn swathes of new terminologies and procedures just to achieve the same level of productivity that the equivalent commercial data-harvesters offer in a more readily-accessible UX, but the vast majority of users simply don’t care.

This old meme couldn’t be less appropriate on Lemmy.

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Edit: Not wanting to poke the bear, but the accusatory phrasing in a couple of the responses below (“you obviously haven’t used Linux in 10 years” and “you don’t really understand the motivation behind FOSS”) go some way towards emphasising the point of this comment.

Since when do people need to take into account if anyone else cares when posting to social media? They're not content creators serving an audience.

I get it's obnoxious sometimes but people are going to sound off about the things they care about on social media. That's the whole point.

i get that the fediverse has a high nerd-count (I’m one of them), but the “switch to Linux” sentiment is so tedious

I genuinely don't understand why people think this is odd. Think for a second about what the fediverse is and what it represents.

Why are we here? Why are we on the fediverse and not reddit or twitter? They both have more content, more intuitive systems, and more mature (if terrible) UXs. So why are we here?

The fediverse represents the same basic thing as a Linux OS for the average consumer: an escape from corporate controlled, locked down, and increasingly bastardized ecosystems. An open source alternative that, while taking a little more effort, rewards the user with relief from the bullshit they want to escape.

Of course it's popular here. How could it not be?

You'll also find early adopters tend to be more willing to put in the effort to learn new systems, and we're barely out of the early adopter stage for the fediverse.

Since when do people need to take into account if anyone else cares when posting to social media? They're not content creators serving an audience.

I mean, this whole post is about what content is preferable in this specific community.

IMO it's not the "switch to Linux" sentiment itself that's so tedious, it's that it's just so damn oversaturated. It's like that guy who posted "if buying isn't ownership then piracy isn't stealing" like 20 times in one thread the other day. I 100% agree but OMG we get it, kindly stop saying the same damn thing over and over. It's just annoying that every post even mentioning Microsoft or Google devolves into a sea of privacy complaints and FOSS evangelizing to the point it's difficult to have any real conversations.

Completely agree, hence the reply to lolcatnip’s comment originally. It’s to be expected I guess, given where we are (as deweydecibel said earlier), but that doesn’t make it less annoying.

Linux is great for those that have the time or inclination to learn swathes of new terminologies and procedures just to achieve the same level of productivity

You obviously haven't tried Linux for at least ten years. It's really not like that.

You obviously haven't tried Linux for at least ten years. It's really not like that.

This is the standard response I’ve heard from Linux advocates for the last 20 years.

I know it’s easy to assume off the back of my initial comment that I might not have, but I assure you, my frustrations with Linux are not borne out of inexperience.

I am not a programmer or anything and I've been using Zorin full time for a while now after trying it as an experiment. I would go so far as to say it's on par with Windows or Mac in many (not quite all) respects. Assuming you're not dependent on some proprietary software the only switching cost these days is... learning to navigate a new system.

Just as an aside, I find it interesting that people using LEMMY of all things for social media would perceive FOSS systems as inferior. I guess that's a testament to how far along ActivityPub development has come.

I wouldn’t disagree, and I’m not saying FOSS is inferior, I’m just whinging about the Linux evangelising.

There is no perfect OS that can have universal approval. However if I’d I said “Windows is a data-harvesting nightmare” or “Being locked in to Apple ecosystems is constricting and expensive” then I’m sure I’d see the upvote button hammered on Lemmy. But to seemingly question the validity of Linux as a silver bullet for the vast majority of desktop users is borderline heresy.

I won't dispute that fanboyism is thing, but also I don't think many evangelists as it were view Linux as a "silver bullet", just as the most ethical option given the alternatives. And they feel very strong feelings about this, that come across as Weird and Scary to people not used to seeing software treated with the same enthusiasm as politics.

Also, I should add that many view open source software as having the potential to one day be the "silver bullet" in a way commercial software can never be due to it's structure.

I’ve been reading about its potential for a long time. Maybe next year will be the year of Linux ;)

If your barometer for "potential" relies on market share, then you don't really understand what motivates a person to contribute effort to a FOSS project in the first place.

What’s your barometer, bearing in mind you said it had the potential to be a silver bullet? Silver bullet for what?

I don’t want to sound defensive, but please don’t assume I’m not invested in FOSS. I’m on Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed and am the developer of half a dozen small FOSS projects on GitHub.

Silver bullet for what?

At achieving the task it was designed for. I do not think it's correct to say that Linux can have "market share" in the market of commercial operating systems because it isn't commercial software. By not using proprietary software we are exiting the market.

Linux absolutely does not exist “outside the market”, that’s absurd. Red Hat, Canonical, SUSE etc aren’t charitable organisations. These major contributors to the Linux kernel aren’t doing so out of love for their fellow man.

For you, yes, Linux is “free” if your measurement of cost is purely financial outlay.

There’s a great back and forth here, and the original thread on Mastodon, which nicely covers both the evangelism (my original issue) and the “cost” of Linux. There’s plenty of reactions in there from people talking about the same things, from both sides of the coin.

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I mean you are trying to poke the bear. And you’re pretending that people don’t constantly make recommendations all the fucking time. They do. Everywhere about everything. That’s how marketing and grass roots campaigning works. What I think is more interesting is why you’re doing these two things - is your shame of being nerdy so deep that you prefer to try and shame others for not being ashamed?

is your shame of being nerdy so deep that you prefer to try and shame others for not being ashamed?

This response couldn’t be a more perfect example of what I’m saying. Thank you.

It really isn’t. I’m not supporting or promoting Linux, I’m not discussing the subject matter at all and I have no skin in the game. What occurred to me is why you needed to identify as a nerd and then drop trow and proceed to shit on nerds.

Your response is precisely the reaction I referenced by the edit. Why is it personal? “You don’t understand FOSS” “You clearly don’t use Linux” and now, beautifully, “You’re ashamed of being a nerd”.

I called out the behaviour you’re exhibiting. That’s not personal, it’s observation. Please clarify why you are allowed to make observations about people but they can’t make observations about you. Calling something “personal” is meaningless.

Nah mate, you can have this one. This is where I drop off. Jumping into a topic with “you must be ashamed of being a nerd“ is never going to provoke a worthwhile discussion.

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Not to mention most of the commenters just hate on the technology too, every article about any type of transportation that isn't trains people just shit on it in the comments. "How is this gonna save the planet?" "Why does this need to exist?"

Hating technology should be its own community.

Quite candidly, it's not articles selling the spiel of tech bros that is going to help us. I'm one of those commenters and I also wish "Technology" was about technology instead of trying to sell the latest gadgetbahn or a solar road or self driving cars.

EDIT: It's not technically about "helping us", but more specifically about the kind of spiel those "articles" are trying to push. It may very well be about technology, but it's misrepresented as something that could help us and save us in the future while in reality, it's just marginally interesting, Think about how many articles there has been about bitcoins, NFTs, AI and crap like this, coming from techbros and their simps. That's why you'll see the sort of comments you complain about. It certainly is tech, but it's more like tech they're trying to hype, misrepresent and sell.

I love tech. I work in IT. But I can also smell BS and will not hesitate to point it out.

Well said. I like how the communities on Lemmy have a lot of tech and FOSS people who are able to recognize (and call out) a repackaged sales pitch. I understand most mainstream publications have to pay the bills, but so many of the "journalists" are just caught up in the hype cycle.

AI isn't anything like NFTs and Bitcoin, it has an actual use case and is being leveraged by a significant number of white collar workers to automate small tasks and take the sifting out of search engines.

But it is like crypto in that a lot of the attention it's getting thinks it's something that it isn't right now. It might be that in the future but AI has a long way to go still.

Crypto never will be anything, that's the point I'm making.

AI is a tool, a good one. It can't take your job anymore than the cotton gin took the job of textile workers, but the professional can make plenty of use to help shorten their workdays with it. As it gets integrated into private companies data environments you'll see more in house models trained on company data that will assist cloud engineers and data engineers in getting things straightened out.

Crypto is a invented currency that was only good for buying drugs and NFT's are literally a scam.

The annoying thing with these reductionist views is that they miss the potential applications.

"JPEGs in the blockchain" is indeed a pointless use case and were so hyped because of greed and a ZIRP world. This doesn't mean that all applications built on top of NFTs are worthless. For example, one could see a well-thought ticketing system based on NFTs that could destroy Ticketmaster.

No it couldn't, it provides nothing that a few database tables couldn't. NFTs themselves are essentially just pointers to things that can be traded, you are always going to be entirely at the mercy of whatever system is deciding what is being pointed to.

nothing that a few database tables couldn’t.

Transparent consensus about the data can not be achieved with a few database tables.

You could make the argument that this does need a blockchain and it could be built on another decentralized consensus protocol (like Paxos), but then you'd lose the permissionless aspect of it and such a system would likely end up being control by a monopoly or oligopoly, like the whole ticketing industry is controlled by Ticketmaster today.

whatever system is deciding what is being pointed to.

The ticketing use case could work precisely because a ticket is just a pointer. Access to the actual venue/seat would still need to be verified in person, but the issuing of tickets and transactions in the primary/secondary markets are the nasty parts that are exploited by Ticketmaster and gives them so much moat.

Transparent consensus about the data can not be achieved with a few database tables.

and why is that needed?

The ticketing use case could work precisely because a ticket is just a pointer. Access to the actual venue/seat would still need to be verified in person, but the issuing of tickets and transactions in the primary/secondary markets are the nasty parts that are exploited by Ticketmaster and gives them so much moat.

And someone in the real world has to look at that and let the person through the door, how does the ticket being an NFT help that at all compared to a database entry with a ticket ID tied to a name and requiring ID? Even if it was an NFT how does that help when you have no control over the system that maps NFTs to seats? Come to think of it, an NFT would just encourage scalping as they are inherantly tradeable and so vulnerable to buying by anonymous accounts and then reselling.

so vulnerable to buying by anonymous accounts and then reselling.

Make the smart contract that forbids multiple transfers, or make transfer more expensive after the initial purchase (unless authorized by some pre-approved address and/or an address that has an associated real ID)

why is that needed?

Because we'd like to have a system that can not be manipulated or controlled by a single entity?

Because we’d like to have a system that can not be manipulated or controlled by a single entity?

You still do though, that's the entire point. Whenever your token interacts with the real world who ever is doing that is a single entity controlling the process.

Make the smart contract that forbids multiple transfers, or make transfer more expensive after the initial purchase (unless authorized by some pre-approved address and/or an address that has an associated real ID)

So less protection against reselling than a ticket with the name of the person who originally bought it, while also milking large amounts of transfer fees to now have a much larger token with code in it. Why would you you want to have a more complex, more expensive, less good system?

that is a single entity controlling the process.

At any given individual event, yes. But if there is any abuse, it is easy to change said entity.

What I have in mind would be that we can take all these separate functions performed by a large company and break them apart. A centralized organization could be broken apart, but that would require a lot more political power than by simply designing up the system in a way that all functionality is spilt and has to conform to a specific interface.

transfer fees... more expensive

Are you talking about the blockchain fees or the ones established by the "smart contract"? If the former, those can easily be avoidable by using a separate blockchain (specific for the use case and backed/supported by the participating venues, which would be glad to pay anything reasonable compared to the racket run by Ticketmaster), or like I said, not even use a blockchain at all and just stick with a permissioned consensus system.

Totally agree!

"Here's some incremental progress that is a possibly interesting technological improvement."

" Omg it isn't literally perfect and exactly aligning with my interests. Literal capitalist trash, zero value, no one wants it"

In my experience it's been quite the opposite. The press release will be "here's some shiny new big deal" and the comments in this community will point out that it's not only nothing new, but often actively working against users' interests.

Like Meta totally joining the Fediverse or Apple ""fully"" adopting RCS despite both those companies having a long history of anti-interoperability practices. There's a lot of BS that comes out of silicon valley, and there aren't a lot of good journalists able (or willing) to rightfully understand what's being said, so they repeat the big claims without proper context.

You forgot to call it fascist. That’s a word people with that attitude tend to throw around a lot.

I think this is a flaw in the current state of Lemmy. There's so few posts compared to Reddit that random people will find your 3 upvoted post in all. This leads to people outside of the community dominating the discussion.

You can also see this with other communities. Everytime I see the conservative one in All it's a non conservative OP being insulted by other non conservatives, because they assumed OP must be a conservative to post there.

There being an anti tech community won't solve this issue. I think the most accessible solution is moderation.

Please stop reporting this as "not tech related, rule 2", we welcome the feedback.

Our stance has been, if it's in a gray area of "tech" such as tech business related, and users upvote it: that must be what the majority wants.

We will be discussing this more, as it seems some people want strictly tech related content and none of the gray area content.

I think users of this website tend to upvote whatever sentences they see which have keywords in them that they think are good.

I agree with op here, and I say forget what the upvotes are saying. they're nonsense.

Didn't know how to make a meta post, or similar, thanks

Check out Ars Technica. I’ve always enjoyed the fact that the are more technical than average news sources. For example, when they report on a software security vulnerability, they’ll actually go into the command line and try it for themselves. Pretty good reporters which more than basic tech knowledge, if you ask me…

https://arstechnica.com/

Great, now I just read an article about no printers and am so enraged

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It would be nice if there were separate Tech Industry and Technology News communities.

There is a "Business" community, ideally the mods should remove any links that are "company a lays off workers" or "Elon Musk is stupid again" and re-direct them to Business, where the business decisions belong.

I bring this up all the time when I can be arsed and people always rebute with "but it's about a company that makes/uses tech", completely missing the point I was making saying that shouldn't be the criteria for content here. It's exhausting.

Honestly, we need tech business news vs technology in general, but technology also probably should be split between hardware and software. Or maybe computer vs the rest.

Computer vs the rest.

I'd love to see posts about new materials, manufacturing processes, waste management, engineering techniques, mechanical designs and tests.

But nope, it's just computers computers computers. If you can't do it on your PC at home it doesn't count as tech, apparently.

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There was a r/HardwareNews on Reddit.
We could implement it but I have not the time nor the will to moderate a community.

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HackerNews(ycomb) is a veritable gold mine but I find the community to be a bit caustic at times.

There is a HackerNews mirror on Lemmy here that I like but not too many people comment. If I saw more activity I'd probably comment more.

but I find the community to be a bit caustic at times

I find the same can be true around here too, though.

But HN is also mostly tech biz.

I really don't find that to be true. I see lots of toy implementations, general philosophical discussions, hell even just man pages.

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Wayyyyy too many libertarians on hacker news who have experienced a lot of personal success in their life and have transformed that success into an utter lack of intellectual maturity or ability to empathize with others less fortunate than them.

Good info, but wow I have read enough hacker news that I have almost zero interest in talking to tech people in real life at this point, they can be so aggressively naive and are always focused on incredibly narrow visions of the future that as a rule don’t center humans as the most valuable part of society/economy. If aliens came to earth and offered them a new algorithm in exchange for enslaving all of the planet, they would shrug their shoulders and say “We can’t stand in the way of progress, I might as well do it, somebody else will if I don’t!”. It makes me thankful a physicist developed the nuclear bomb not a tech person or I am sure we would all be dead right now.

Good info though and fun to troll libertarians if you are into that kink.

Repost it here if you find something interesting. I read a little ycomb but it's a firehose and discussion is typically bad as you said.

Lemmy needs more reposting from other blogs. Filtering content is useful. Not everything needs to be original.

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Https://news.ycombinator.com is the gold standard, there are some Lemmy bots following it as well

Wow, it's been a while since I've been there, but my impression was the polar opposite. That it's filled with business folks and tech bros. That their unbalanced voting system unearths controversial takes rather than informative comments. Every now and then, you'll genuinely see a comment from someone with expertise, but that was not worth sacrificing my mental health for.

One of my hats os interviewing senior engineers, one of my warm up questions is to ask where they get their news and stay current.

Hacker news is a very, very, common response.

In fact I don't have a better news source to offer you.

I worry about dismissing the discussion as tech bro and businessy... As real engineers use the site, I also worry about dismissing people as tech bros, it's not a great term, and I think unfairly applied to engineers because they are often not neural typical.

one of my warm up questions is to ask where they get their news and stay current.

How important is this to you? If they say they don't make an effort to keep up with tech news, is that a red flag? Is your company/product really so much on the cutting edge that you need the team to be keeping up with the latest tech news.

Doesn't seem very important to me, but it's one of the first questions you ask.

its a warm up question, its not a requirement, getting to know you.

But, someone in industry who doesn't make an effort to stay up to date in the industry, somehow, would raise an eyebrow... FWIW nobody has ever not had a answer to that question.

I certainly don't want to dismiss any individuals as tech bros. Tech broism is more like a natural phenomenon, which occurs when you lock exclusively privileged people into a room for long enough and then let them discuss user needs.
At some point, they'll ask themselves questions like "Why do we need privacy?" and everyone else in the room will agree that they've never needed it either and then they'll found Google.

I am very much at risk of this, too. I have to constantly go out of my way to try to re-adjust my perspective, so that I don't completely miss the ball on what users actually need.

And places like Hacker News naturally form, because of course, we all do want to only talk about topics that we consider relevant. And folks whose needs are not generally considered relevant by the Hacker News community will look for different places, too.

I guess, a question you can ask yourself:
If you've ever interviewed a senior engineer who was for example black, gay, trans and/or a woman, did they frequent Hacker News?

In fact I don't have a better news source to offer you

Have you taken a look at lobste.rs? Not saying it's better, but there are alternatives.

I like hacker news but have had trouble figuring out how to actually like...follow it. There is a shitty Android app. They don't have an RSS feed best I can tell. How does one actually consume it?

Hacker News has an RSS feed at https://news.ycombinator.com/rss. They have a tag in the main page to point to it but browsers don't really surface that anymore I guess?

They also have like different filtered feeds for things with like a certain number of votes or something, which I have seen people using.

Maybe that's what it is then. I don't see it on the main page and their FAQ didn't list it either.

Regardless, thanks for the link! I'll drop that into my RSS reader.

They have a tag in the main page to point to it but browsers don’t really surface that anymore I guess?

There's a Firefox addon to fix that. It's called RSSPreview, but besides providing previews it also adds a little button to the address bar on sites that have tags like that so you can find the feeds in the first place.

You could just use !hackernews@derp.foo

I know it's a bot driven community but somehow they actually pulled it off. Lemmy users are actually leaving comments and voting over there.

There's also !hackernews@lemmy.smeargle.fans but it seems like a less active version of the same thing

I use Harmonic It has a pretty decent ui, but i use web version if i want to search something

On Reddit we had r/hardware which was great for this

Here we have !hardware@lemmy.ml but I haven't checked it out much yet

And there was r/gadget . Funny thing, I went from r/technology to r/gadget for the same reason : r/technology was 90% business news

Blogs are really the only way now. At least in my life, it and RSS are making a big comeback. So if you know of any good blogs let me know

RSS has been coming back for me big time too. Which blogs do you follow?

RSS is awesome and it's one of those generic technologies I am talking about on my blog. I already covered RSS, PGP, FTP and F-Droid, and there are plans about SSH, git, KeePass and Delta Chat.

We need webrings to come back for better discoverability. Also, how do you consume RSS?

Bleh, consume sounds like an icky word here. But if you want to set up an RSS Feed, get an RSS reader (I personally use NewsFlash, but use whatever you like) and then simply add feeds to it. You can find them on quite a few sites, the icon looks kind of like a wifi symbol. Optionally you could also just install a plugin like Awesome RSS, which automatically finds feeds on the site you're currently on, which can be useful if it's kinda hidden on the site itself

I meant "Consume" in the technical sense of downloading and parsing. And yes, the RSS reader is part of what I was looking for (I don't think I've heard of NewsFlash, very excited to look into that).

I've been using RSS for a long time, but I find that Feedly is odious, self-hosted alternatives are unnecessarily hard to operate, and the middle ground of paid alternatives doesn't seem to exist.

RSS yes. I love it.

Blogs...eh. the only time I read a blog is if it contains a solution I've searched for.

You are not going to get that at any of the larger communities. We'll need to grow the niche communities instead, more specific to your interests.

Could you please take a look at https://fediverser.network to see if gives you anything interesting?

It can definitely happen. This is just the result of a lack of quality or subject control.

It degrades to the lowest common denominator. This was seen across reddit, constantly.

It happened on lemmy in record time due to a lack of default outlets for the low quality content.

I was on reddit for a very long time. And this is why I started to bemoan when communities would celebrate that they passed some number of subscribers.

/pardon me as I yell at the clouds. Stop now unless you want to read a completely unnecessary rant.

Two of my favorite niche subreddits were absolutely ruined by getting big: mindfulness and foodporn. The former was primarily a discussion about practicing mindfulness, there were even a couple of buddhists who actually deeply studied the tradition that provided very good non-western insight. It was a good place to go get help, albeit occasionally got a spattering of stupid memes, but you could easily get past them. As it grew it turned more and more into just memes, and then was just over-taken by new-age nonsense and pseudointellectual quotes over pictures. Food porn (while never exactly what I wanted) went from often having well-done pictures of good food, to shitty cell-phone shots of oversized hamburgers, half eaten food, and plates of food sitting on counters with all of this shit in the background.

I know that is a big ask, but would you be interested in helping bootstrapping these communities here? I recently created https://healthy.community/c/mindfulness and https://sfw.community/c/foodporn as part of my fediverser project, but these are not communities that I am not personally invested in. It would be a lot better if someone already helped to shape its general direction.

This is just the result of a lack of quality or subject control.

This is just another way of saying "having mods enforcing super strict rules", which then leads to an ossified culture and a bunch of mods high on their power trip. This was also seen on Reddit and StackOverflow.

Unfortunately, the way to avoid "lowest common denominator" issues that you mention is by going to the places where the denominator is relatively small, but big enough to have network effects in its favor. My experience was that all subreddits between 25k to 500k subscribers worked really well without excessive policing. Between 500k and 1M it could still go by, depending on the moderators. After crossing that mark, things started to deteriorate fast.

If we were to scale that to Lemmy, it means that all communities with a subscriber count >= 1% of the total network will fall into "deteriorate fast" territory.

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The problem is all the s*** we really want to hear about all the companies are keeping close to their breast.

Then, when something actually novel and interesting comes out it ends up being polarizing. We can only consume so much Chat GPT Gemini Bard crap.

We should start a tech community on the federal verse about technologies people are passionate about. Get some people to talk about cool s*** they've done with Wyoming, Piper and whisper. Maybe have some people talk about their local mini installs of LLMS, for how they're getting the most out of stable diffusion. Maybe some people looking at Obsidian or Anytype, maybe some NixOS

There's lots of cool stuff out there to cover there's just not a lot of news about it these days. If it's not AI they're afraid people's eyes will just glaze over.

You are allowed to say "shit" here

Voice dictation. I need the censorship on for some places, but the setting is buried enough that turning it on and off is arduous. Unfortunately that means that gracing the world with my profanity is only for a times where I can be at the keys.

I don't agree with your first two phrases but strongly agree with the later ones.

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I don't think people should have to put extra filters to get what they signed up for when they subscribed to "technology"

Blocking "Musk" has made Lemmy much more enjoyable for me!

Elon, Musk, and Twitter are my three banned words at the moment. I would add X but I'm weary of the false positives.

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I can post any technology related outside of tech biz but mostly it's not a popular thing here, many of articles are too technical, hardly any discussion, even worse there are articles that you won't like it. For example, I can post the good thing about EVs today and another day I can post the downside of EVs battery to environment, and I get the heat.

Posting in niche community? Not enough MAU, I'v tried in c/collapse, c/cybersecurity etc, no discussion.

c/technology is just a mirror of r/technology

This is the correct answer. More folks that subscribe here are the ones who interact and upvote the political ones.

Most technology news your average layman is interested in is ads for new products and how tech companies turn out to not be so great to work for. I think that's why most news that appear on top don't really cover the fun stuff.

That’s just what’s happening in the tech industry right now. Loads of firings and other issues. That’s the human factor of tech.

I'm aware I'm off the wavelength here, but I wish those concepts were in a "human factor tech" channel

Maybe. Maybe not. Humans do make up a disproportionate amount of factors involved in most human activity. So their concerns do bubble to the top when all is not well.

I don't care what is well or not (in a technology channel). I care about tech.

In other channels, such as perhaps a workers rights channel, I care about such topics.

That's all well and good but I want discussions about tech itself. Tell me about your latest achievement while building your robot.

@GBU_28 I see what you mean!

The smaller tech communities seem to have a better signal to noise ratio, I was in !technology@kbin.social the other day and it's mostly posts about actual tech.

Hey, if you don't like it you can get the hell out of r/Elon, we don't want you here!

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This is one of the reason that I think the @L4s@lemmy.world bot should have retired a while back. !technology@lemmy.world already the biggest comm on this platform that it doesn't need a repost bot from reddit, and having it around inevitably turns this community into a duplicate of r/technology which is more tech business and privacy than it is about interesting tech.

However, you can say that this is also an advantage of Lemmy over reddit, since if you don't like the content of !technology@lemmy.world, you can always use another technology comm like !technology@lemmy.ml or start your own, instead of making something like r/truetechnology or something like that as on reddit. (This is also the reason why I don't think community merging is a good idea on the server side.)

Get rid of Capitalism and it'll happen

Yawn.

Exactly what I don't care about discussing.

No this would still be an issue. Actual technology is, well, technical. Not a lot of people here would be able to read a direct medical study and then discuss it.

Talking about protocols seems pretty technical to me...

Uh, yeah, that'd be great

I just checked the front page of this community (as sorted by active) and none of those posts were about protocols, so...

"I wish there were more articles about the shiny emeralds and how valuable they are and not about the dead, exploited children working in the mines"

You see OP, that's you. ^

Both articles are out there, one is just more important as prevalent topic right now because of the human beings in the mix.

With all due respect, fuck the dead children, I came here for the shiny emeralds. If you want awareness for your mining kids you can go to c/deadbabies and cry about it there.

I'm with OP, I came for interesting technologies not all the other bullshit.

Nah. Tech biz is not tech.

Both are important, interesting topics.

GBU_28 has made exactly zero posts, besides this one.

Dude, you can help fill the place with tech articles.

I said that in the post text, and indicated I was seeking communities where more actual tech discussion is found. I received it.

As I said, I'm interested in places where the top, 12h content is more tech oriented.

In general I consume from this place. I'm not interested in building. I don't care your opinion on that engagement pattern, only your info on other communities if you have it.

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