Trump bemoans lack of immigrants from majority-white countries to the US
Ex-president avoided past ‘shithole countries’ racist invective, but said the US hadn’t gotten enough immigrants from ‘nice countries’
Donald Trump bemoaned a lack of immigrants to the US from “nice” countries “like Denmark [or] Switzerland”, offering millionaire donors at a Florida fundraiser a reprise of infamous racist Oval Office remarks about people coming to America from “shithole countries”.
Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee for president again, despite facing 88 criminal charges and multimillion-dollar civil penalties for tax fraud and defamation, the latter arising from a rape allegation a judge called “substantially true”.
According to the New York Times, which cited an unnamed attendee at the Saturday event in Palm Beach, Trump told his audience: “These are people coming in from prisons and jails. They’re coming in from just unbelievable places and countries, countries that are a disaster.
“And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?”
He's complaining that people don't want to leave countries with socialized health care and more protections for workers? Maybe he is coming to the wrong conclusions about that.
Paying 420€ per month at most for comprehensive healthcare and 49€ per month for regional/urban public transportation nationwide is really a chore.
And additionally, I even have to live with the burden of getting my master's degree almost for free! It's horrible over here! I can barely enjoy my 30 vacation days thinking about the situation!
And don't you just hate the absurdly low chance of being victim of a violent crime?
If only we figured out if those had any link to the social nets.
Best I can do is an armed wellness check. How many firearms should I tell the police you have?
at least 1500 lbs of firearms and a gundam
This fool doesn't lose his Gundam in the pond
Without the privilege of crushing debt and social unrest? Inconceivable! You poor bastards!
Fun Fact: the Reaganites literally decided to create student debt to stop poor people from having higher expectations from life
I consolidated my AR15 and new Ford F350 into one EZ loan of 29.99% APR and 297 months! Yeeehaw!!!
Calm down, ARs are very affordable.
Unless you want all the options...
And you're a damn commie if'n you don't. Might as well buy an AK!
Actually, yeah, toss an AK on there too, they're pretty fun.
Gotta buy the AK to blast the commies with their our bullets!
Sure, but how many dozens of guns can you buy immediately with just a simple background check missing tons of information?
Barely any. It's a shame.
Username checks out.
Not getting shot and being able to buy real bread is another bonus!
To them, the US is the shithole country, that's why.
My cousin in the Schengen area got breast cancer and went off to get treatment with 80% of her salary. After the first rounds feeling much better asked the social worker to go back and the answer was, not until you get to the last round and get medical clearance.
Try that in the US.
That shit radicalized me.
You go to work while getting the treatment and hope you don’t run out of sick days.
Or make industrial quantities of meth.
They're not wrong.
I'm from Australia, not some poncy nordic utopia. I wouldn't describe the US as a shithole country per se, but I sure as shit wouldn't want to move there.
The whole republican thing does make me apoplectic, and admittedly that's pretty much all we see from this far away, but I acknowledge that its probably not a big part of daily life. For example, there's some 4x4 youtube channels I watch and the people just seem like cool normal people who I'd probably like to know in real life, but I'd bet they vote republican anyway.
During his presidency, it actually was a part of daily life. We all had to endure a constant drumbeat of headlines about horrible things he did or said until you almost stopped caring. It would be like that again if he gets reelected.
That's cause you are comparing the US to Australia, mate
/s
As a person from Denmark; I'm fine thanks.
I was actually asked by one of my old bosses, an American lady, why I didn't leave the impending doom that is Switzerland.
I guess I prefer my godless wasteland with a highly functional public transportation system and our guns very reasonably regulated (we can actually buy more kinds of guns and more easily that the US).
Yeah, Denmark and Norway have populations of between 5.5 and 5.9 million. Of that 11 or so million, in 2023, a total of less than 30 thousand citizens decided to leave. And I would be willing to bet that the majority of those leaving went to one of the following countries: Norway, Denmark or Sweden.
You can't even get a decent kamelåså in the USA.
Well, you just bought 1000 liters of milk
https://www.nettavisen.no/rema1000-stensved/melk/dansk-rema1000-skulle-bestille-270-liter-melk-fikk-2-5-tonn/s/12-95-3422834028
Ditto from Norway. I'm visiting you tomorrow, though.
You could double my income, even triple.
....and I still wouldn't risk rising my children in the US.
Not a fucking chance...
Literally, had to make this decision four years ago.
In the end I went to the German branch of the same tech company and only made 1/4 the money I would have in the US.
However, because it was a US company they made me do the "what to do when there's a shooter in the workplace" training course anyway. No regrets about not going.
I think the same... And I live in Canada, we don't have it as good as Denmark or Switzerland but still....
I honestly only go to the States for short visits I dread, because we have family there.... Otherwise I wouldn't even visit
Why on god's green earth would I relocate to a country that treats people like farm animals unless I was fleeing war or drug cartels?
Every government treats their people like farm-animals, in my opinion. Some are nicer to their animals than others. "Happy cows make better-tasting milk", and so on.
My country's (the US) government treats us like those industrial hog and cattle farms we have in Nebraska, Louisiana, Texas, etc. I moved to the Netherlands in July of '22; people are treated more like free-range live-stock here, which is an improvement from my condition in the US. I imagine it's not too dissimilar of a relationship throughout greater Scandinavia as well.
Because we're doing the Second Civil War arc in a few, it'll be fun and/or destroy humanity itself!
Why the fuck would they want to come here?
There are stupid right-wing people in every country.
Judging by Lord Lard-Ass' complaints, they still don't want to come here.
Maybe, but it's not like anything he ever says is based on evidence.
To them, the US is the shithole country.
It is to plenty of us that live here, too.
Southern maid donuts and seafood gumbo. Glad I could clear that up for you.
Why would someone go from a "nice" country to the US? People want to improve their situation
The U.S. is not some homogeneous entity. It's huge. It has its bad regions, but it also has its awesome regions as well. Just like the U.K.
You're missing the point.
People don't up sticks and move across the world for the fun of it. They do it because they seek a better life, the US mostly can't offer that for people who already live in an advanced country.
Like wise, if you don't want immigrants from "shit hole" countries, your options are to help make their own country better so that they won't want to leave or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won't want to come.
Republicans are certainly trying!
I moved to Germany for the fun of it (you could say that I was seeking a better life, I guess.)
I've also moved across states in the U.S. for the fun it.
It can happen.
I'm aware that a whole lot of people do it for different reasons, though.
And yeah, I find it funny when Americans complain about migrants from, say, Central America. They should learn the role the U.S. played in destabilizing the region in the 80s.
But it has no social safety nets really which is what "nice white countries" tend to have. Who wants to move somewhere without universal health care from a place that does?
And also about half the population is certifiable.
You have a point.
And no, not half of the population. Maybe half of the voting population. The newer generations are less tolerant of the ongoing GOP bullshit.
Twice in a row Donald Trump lost the popular vote, by millions of people.
Why would they leave countries with a higher standard of living and universal health care?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/standard-of-living-by-country
Iceland 191.10
Denmark 190.60
Finland 188.10
Switzerland 185.80
Oman 184.80
Austria 183.30
Norway 181.80
Spain 177.70
Estonia 176.40
Germany 176.00
Japan 175.50
Sweden 174.80
United Arab Emirates 173.80
United States 173.00
I live in Spain. I've lived in the US. There is literally no reason to go to the US except to visit of for tourism. Quality of life, and having an excellent health care system, good wather, basically no gun problems (contrary to popular belief, I can own a lot of types of guns, even non-auto assault guns, they are just properly regulated) etc. I'm very employable , and would probably make 2-3 times as much as here, but have no real incentive.
That's the thing most Americans cannot grasp... money isn't everything.
Wow what does Oman have going on over there?
Petrodollars. :)
Nowhere as much as Qatar or Saudi Arabia, yet they aren’t on the list. UAE should be higher up than Oman too but it isn’t.
Perhaps what helps Oman are other things besides oil and gas revenues. Perhaps their lush greenery and ancient frankincense trees.
SA is on the list, just ahead of the US, but yeah, I get where you're coming from.
As I understand it they are exceptionally stable and have been building themselves up since the colonial period. The sultan of Oman didnt live in Zanzibar for nothin'.
No more stable than any other Gulf countries. But they aren’t involved in any proxy wars and always maintained friendly relations with everyone including Iran.
Ironically (to everyone but him) Trump himself is the reason a lot of people from the "good" countries would never consider moving here.
I decided to never go there way before I knew trump. Don't want my dog to die from a bullet.
Thank you for the invitation. Unfortunately I'm busy that day.
What about the following day?
Thank you for your message. I am out of the office until April 31st.
Humm. They’re probably scouting apartments in Florida this month.
Why? We're not Aquaman.
Could it be that America was the "shithole country" all along? 🤔
What? No, we are the greatest country in the world. I know because of 13 years of my youth spent in public school where they kept telling me about it.
LMFAO, easy answer - because those countries are demonstrably better than the shit hole that is the United States.
God this fuckin turd just doesn't shut up and the rest of us are forced to hear about it. Enough already.
Lmao reminds me of my company. They are headquartered in the US, but have a big office in the UK, and about twice a year someone from the US office comes over to try and recruit us to go over there. And every time no one goes, even though they're offering us almost twice the equivalent salary to go over, between the women, the queers, non-white people, there's not a lot of people left that wouldn't been instantly downgraded the second they stepped off the plane. And out of those left most will care about healthcare or vacation time and uprooting their lives more than a better salary.
Not to mention the infara change would feel like such a downgrade.
Imagine moving to Houston or Atlanta and learning the horror that you must travel to work every single day in a car in traffic for 2-3 hours, and any commercial business is going to be more than a mile away from your home.
Yeah, im on holiday in Dallas right now and its so bad. The nearest convenience store is over an hours walk away, and if I wanted to go to a supermarket its an almost 40 min walk to a bus stop, and a 20 minute bus ride on a bus that comes once per hour.
Who here wanna bet that Stephen Miller advised him do a couple more or fewer in order to land at his favorite number?
It was at 91 last I heard so if they’ve only gone through 3 in 4 years he’ll be 200 by the time they’re done
Lmao it can't be an accident.
Uh, on that note, anyone from any nice countries want to get married to an American? Doesn't have to be majority white, but must have healthcare and like, trains? I like trains and going to the doctor.
I would also like to offer this arrangement!
My brother-in-law and his wife made the reverse thing. He went to the US as a student (IIRC), met his future wife, they came back here, and now she is happy to be a German citizen.
Do you like Canada? And middle aged women? We kind of have trains but it's nothing to write home about.
I've never been but I've heard good things about most of it. And I'm a middle aged woman, so sure!
Omigod we're perfect for each other.
“Send me white chicks, Melanie is 20 years past her expiration date!”
Most majority white countries have better education, better healthcare, better religious and personal freedom, better personal security, lower crime, and better standards of living than the US.
Yup. White person from Austria here and while my life is far from perfect, I like having 5 weeks of paid vacation, free healthcare and education, not relying on cars, and many other things I wouldn't have anymore if I migrated to the US. Maybe Trump should run on a platform of implementing those things in the US.
Candian here. No place is perfect. Canada is not perfect. I would never consider moving to the US. I like my freedom too much to give it up.
A lot of that is why I left the US. Nowhere is perfect, but a lot of things are better for me personally in Japan.
So many Americans have never been outside of the US for any length of time. They have no experience with how good things are everywhere else.
We have reached the point of straight up, mask-off white supremacy (again...)
I remember sth about german students from US colleges having to head back over Visa struggles when Trump was in power
I can't speak for others, but at the moment, even as entertaining as it is, I'd rather watch the US from a safe distance.
So would many Americans. Check this out.
https://www.perceptions.eu/migration-in-and-from-america-current-statistics/
Fyi, that article refers to anyone from the Americas as Americans. It does not mean us citizens.
Come to America for Donald Trumps cradle to the grave minimum wage program with zero health care and no retirement.
What I'm hearing is that if an all out war is accepted in Europe, Trump gets white refugees.
Well they have to be really white though, not like those lazy Spaniards, Italians or Greeks. Should probably leave the Catholics out of it, too, and maybe the Irish for that matter. Do Portuguese count? 🤔 /s
Yeah I wonder why Danes aren’t flocking here? Must be the lack of bike lanes on the ocean. Can’t possibly be that other developed stable countries offer higher quality of life
Then explain your father and your current wife.
This is a trap to identify the Danes and Swiss people with functioning brains and take us all out at once, isn't it? 😛
Does the orange crybaby not have any mirrors in his side of the house?
I mean, not that it would be bad to have more people.
Edit to clarify lol: more interracial marriages are welcome!
No way, you're there.
What about the white peoples of the Middle East and North Africa?
Oh wait, you banned them, even if they were Christians.
I am fron Lithuania and I would move to the US as a permanent resident if: It was easier to do so It's entirely the fault of the US for favoring third world countries over European countries. It's in their policy.
The model of importing cheap labour from such differing countries seems like a failed one. He does have a point.
its funny because trump isnt even sure he's making a point here, he's just riffing. If he wanted to import WORKERS from sweden or denmark he'd implement sectoral bargaining. Of course he wouldn't do that, he had to be dragged kicking and screaming by canada on the nafta renewal to get min wages for auto workers in mexico.
I don't think that's what he's saying at all. You seem to be talking about something else.