Let's just agree that these states are also the places where the hypocrisy is the strongest.
Just look at the facts:
These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat (heart is just a muscle sack that acts as a pump, nothing else), but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.
You have to remind parents not to have drunken sex with their children, but you cannot let LGBTQ people have a book store or a unisex bathroom.
Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat
Not even.
Women have been forced to carry dead fetuses, which will kill them from sepsis as it starts to decompose.
And the people who voted for it will deny it ever happening, until something similar happens to someone they know. Then they'll cry on the street corners about how unfair it is.
Remember: Scientific studies have shown that many conservatives are cold hearted and stupid, by demonstrating a clear correlation between conservative thinking/behaviour and lower than average cognitive ability and empathy. And literally every single one of them think they are a super genius and they think most people secretly share their political views.
btw isn't conservatism supposed to be about "everything is perfect as it is right now, don't make any changes"?
It's about maintaining the status quo. Keeping the rich rich and the poor poor because "hey it's worked great so far!"
Which is sad, because if you never change. You'll eventually stagnate and rot, like an apple in the sun when change does finally become forced and necessary. Either you move out of the sun and become a tree with those remaining seeds or just. Die I guess. Kind of a pathetic way to go just because of stubbornness honestly.
They say that, but they are liars. Liberals who typically want to conserve the standing social and economic order are the real conservatives.
What the conservatives actually are is reactionaries.
For the record, I'm not saying that because I'm a liberal, which I'm not. I don't want to conserve the social or economic orders.
Alabama is full of gay sister touchers
can you please not just be homophobic as like some epic own of the conservatives.
Even if its supposed to be an ironic thing because conservatives would hate to be called gay, it just reads as normal homophobia.
Because it is normal homophobia. Blaming homophobia and abuse on gays is just a rehash of the same old bigotry, no matter stated intentions.
Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.
I'm strictly pro foetus killing, in case that makes it seem otherwise. Just think that's a poor rhetorical device.
Boobs are just fat bags that milky milky. But they've got soul, baby.
Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.
While this statement is true, what is also true is that the brain is the only organ we're unable to fully understand, replace (as in through organ donation), and it's what makes us sentient. This is why Row v. Wade had a specific fetal age up until which abortion is permitted. That age coincided with the age at which the brain is developed and the fetus becomes a child which could be delivered. Most of the red-state laws are restricting abortion after the heartbeat can be detected.
All I am saying is that it makes perfect sense, from the biological point of view, why the heart is one of the first major organs to develop: it's main job is to deliver nutrient-rich blood to all other organs so that they can develop as well. But despite that, its not the heart that makes us human, it's the brain.
I was raised around those good old traditional values like "do what you're told" and "a woman's value is caring for a family." Once I started thinking for myself and asking questions, I still struggled with all the "but they're killing living babies!" idea. Then one day it occurred to me - we don't determine death by when the heart stops, why would we decide it starts just because we hear a beat? Brain death determines death, wouldn't an appropriate level of brain activity determine life? I let go of a lot of baggage that day.
Yet plenty of people with brains and hearts are subhuman pieces of filth
There is never a good reason to say 'subhuman filth'. All of our problems are human problems.
Including your apparent meth abuse.
Methyl is CH3 groups - I did a graduate degree in biochem and feel proud of my achievement tyvm.
Edit- ironically I chose not to be ethylman (without the first m) because I thought it made me sound like a proud alcoholic š¤£
So if you're educated, consider giving the book "Becoming Evil" a problem.
All of our problems are human problems, and talking about other human beings - no matter what they do - as "Subhuman" is a problem in and off itself.
Always open to advice - Thanks
Thats not goodness, that's narcissism!
-The guy from Prageru
but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.
link to the story?
Oh man, where have you been and which instance do you want to start with?
Precisely how many people have been full on ready to drunkenly bang their daughter, and were persuaded not to by a billboard?
They were persuaded to rape their date instead.
I like how there's an implication with a roadside billboard that they're driving home drunk as well.
Nah, there's no way a state with drive-thru daiquiri shops has anybody driving drunk.
Wait drive through bars are a thing?? Who in the absolute fuck thought that was a good idea.
Louisiana thinks that's a good idea. It's OK though - they put a piece of scotch tape over the lid.
Facepalm.
Hate to be that guy, but I think the sign is actually meant for the daughter, not the father. The rhetoric isn't "hey, maybe don't have sex with your kid?" it's "yo girlie, those things your father did to you were totally not okay, even though he was drunk/apologized afterwards/whatever."
I get that that still sounds painfully obvious, but trust me to people for whom "abuse" is their "normal," messages like this handing out really obvious messages are still useful
That makes more sense, it's still extremely depressing this has to be a thing š®āšØ
It probably helped prevent a single rape, but that was because they live directly in front of the sign and saw it illuminated by lightning a day they were drunk.
Coincidentally, the exact same number of people who have been convinced to stop gambling by a giant casino billboard ad with a tiny 800 number at the bottom.
Back when this was posted on Reddit someone who worked in CPS chimed in. The short of it was: Yes , men raping their under age daughters is frighteningly common in some states and a common form of victimization of the girls that CPS handles.
I guess my question is, why would a billboard do anything to dissuade them from it?
I'm just an ignorant Yank, but is this really a big enough issue in the shit hole states that a billboard is necessary? I can't even believe this is real!
About 30% of rape cases against children occur in the close family, so probably yes.(Numbers are from Germany).
Growing up in Wisconsin, drunk driving was a serious issue. Especially on New Years and the Fourth of July. The joke was that every little town throughout Wisconsin always had a church and a bar. There were so many alcoholics that would spend every day at those bars. It's a tradition that probably goes back to the idea of public houses and having bars be a central location where your community gathers. Many people take the drinking part of that too far though and so the anti-drunk driving PSAs were necessary.
This isn't actually a drunk driving poster though. This is a drunk fucking your daughter PSA.
Yes and also, I doubt the effectiveness of snapping their mind out of this
I sorta need a google maps link showing it. Its just crazy pants.
why cant it just say "dont fuck your daughter, asshole"
Instructions unclear, interpreted as "don't fuck your daughter's asshole"
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So... raping your date is ok ?
Nah the daughter wanted it, he knows because he was drunk at the time.
Reminds me of the bible story about the daughter's that got their father drunk and had sex with him. I'm totally sure that's what happened and it wasn't the father raping his daughters then blaming them for it.
I never thought about it like that wow that makes sense.
I love how the initial response is "I think he actually raped his daughters" instead of "the entire thing is literally just made up to control people like the rest of the bible."
Relax, Lot never even existed.
I think the point is that even in a story they made up they create a fantasy where it's the daughters fault for raping the father, not the other way around which it would obviously be.
Relax with telling people to relax, they were pretty calm in their comment.
Only if you have a valid excuse - like being drunk apparently
Pretty sure there are still states in the US where a marriage liscense is basically just that. God I hate it here.
The disturbing part is people need a billboard to tell them that.
What. Word more you? Enough!
"Getting is an"
And naturally for THIS billboard, they use a person of color as a model.
And they use white people to promote Juneteenth celebrations
I honestly thought this was a donāt drink and drive campaign and was struggling trying to reason out why it said ānot your dateā as if it was ok to drive drunk with a date.
Having to put up a āPlease donāt ride your childrenā sign is something I thought we reserved for hamsters
This just raises more questions.
Can the person this ad is aimed at even read?
Is this ad seriously suggesting to rape his date as an alternative to raping his daughter?
I remember one time driving through Oklahoma or Missouri in 04. 3 billboards in a row.. "Stop" 2nd "Take a BREAK" 3rd, "Don't ever shake a baby"
Why you need one let alone 3 is a disappointing reflection of reality.
Unrelated but you just reminded me of that excellent movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, which I must now go rewatch
I totally forgot about this movie until you mentioned it, but it is incredible. Thank you for reminding me of this Frances Mcdormand masterpiece
Why wouldn't you shake a baby? That's the quickest way to stop them crying
Me, my papa was shaken baby, my papas papa was a shake baby, and my granpappy papa was a shaken baby, we all terned out altright. It's called parenting!1!1!
Jesus fucking Christ please tell me this is fake
It's absolutely not.
We had one up where I live that had a picture of a sad looking girl, maybe 12-14 and the text said: "Paying to have sex with children is a crime." And then a number to call.
Let's just agree that these states are also the places where the hypocrisy is the strongest.
Just look at the facts: These are the places where you have to preserve the life of a fetus just because you can hear a heartbeat (heart is just a muscle sack that acts as a pump, nothing else), but you can freely shoot your neighbor, a fully gestated human, who has stumbled onto your yard.
You have to remind parents not to have drunken sex with their children, but you cannot let LGBTQ people have a book store or a unisex bathroom.
Not even.
Women have been forced to carry dead fetuses, which will kill them from sepsis as it starts to decompose.
And the people who voted for it will deny it ever happening, until something similar happens to someone they know. Then they'll cry on the street corners about how unfair it is.
Remember: Scientific studies have shown that many conservatives are cold hearted and stupid, by demonstrating a clear correlation between conservative thinking/behaviour and lower than average cognitive ability and empathy. And literally every single one of them think they are a super genius and they think most people secretly share their political views.
btw isn't conservatism supposed to be about "everything is perfect as it is right now, don't make any changes"?
It's about maintaining the status quo. Keeping the rich rich and the poor poor because "hey it's worked great so far!"
Which is sad, because if you never change. You'll eventually stagnate and rot, like an apple in the sun when change does finally become forced and necessary. Either you move out of the sun and become a tree with those remaining seeds or just. Die I guess. Kind of a pathetic way to go just because of stubbornness honestly.
They say that, but they are liars. Liberals who typically want to conserve the standing social and economic order are the real conservatives.
What the conservatives actually are is reactionaries.
For the record, I'm not saying that because I'm a liberal, which I'm not. I don't want to conserve the social or economic orders.
Alabama is full of gay sister touchers
can you please not just be homophobic as like some epic own of the conservatives. Even if its supposed to be an ironic thing because conservatives would hate to be called gay, it just reads as normal homophobia.
Because it is normal homophobia. Blaming homophobia and abuse on gays is just a rehash of the same old bigotry, no matter stated intentions.
Brain is just a nerve bag that makes decisions.
I'm strictly pro foetus killing, in case that makes it seem otherwise. Just think that's a poor rhetorical device.
Boobs are just fat bags that milky milky. But they've got soul, baby.
While this statement is true, what is also true is that the brain is the only organ we're unable to fully understand, replace (as in through organ donation), and it's what makes us sentient. This is why Row v. Wade had a specific fetal age up until which abortion is permitted. That age coincided with the age at which the brain is developed and the fetus becomes a child which could be delivered. Most of the red-state laws are restricting abortion after the heartbeat can be detected.
All I am saying is that it makes perfect sense, from the biological point of view, why the heart is one of the first major organs to develop: it's main job is to deliver nutrient-rich blood to all other organs so that they can develop as well. But despite that, its not the heart that makes us human, it's the brain.
I was raised around those good old traditional values like "do what you're told" and "a woman's value is caring for a family." Once I started thinking for myself and asking questions, I still struggled with all the "but they're killing living babies!" idea. Then one day it occurred to me - we don't determine death by when the heart stops, why would we decide it starts just because we hear a beat? Brain death determines death, wouldn't an appropriate level of brain activity determine life? I let go of a lot of baggage that day.
Yet plenty of people with brains and hearts are subhuman pieces of filth
There is never a good reason to say 'subhuman filth'. All of our problems are human problems.
Including your apparent meth abuse.
Methyl is CH3 groups - I did a graduate degree in biochem and feel proud of my achievement tyvm.
Edit- ironically I chose not to be ethylman (without the first m) because I thought it made me sound like a proud alcoholic š¤£
So if you're educated, consider giving the book "Becoming Evil" a problem.
All of our problems are human problems, and talking about other human beings - no matter what they do - as "Subhuman" is a problem in and off itself.
Always open to advice - Thanks
Thats not goodness, that's narcissism!
-The guy from Prageru
link to the story?
Oh man, where have you been and which instance do you want to start with?
This one was in the headlines for a while, let's start here: https://www.biography.com/crime/trayvon-martin
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/Sections/0776.013.html
Go ahead an reply to the kind folks who took their time to give you what you asked for.
I'd give you an award, but we don't do those here ... uhhh ... here's some Lemmy Nickel
You're so sweet, I cherish LemmyNickel.
Here's a recent one https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/sons-of-slain-florida-mom-ajike-aj-owens-blame-themselves-for-her-death
I wasn't referring to a particular story, just the "stand your ground" laws.
various instances, all from last month:
https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2023/06/12/man-charged-with-murder-accused-of-shooting-neighbor-in-southeast-houston
https://www.wandtv.com/news/police-man-shot-neighbor-because-his-child-left-a-cup-on-the-curb-outside-of/article_fa899432-102d-11ee-99d8-eb517ae34fe7.html
https://nypost.com/2023/06/14/charles-robert-smith-vet-accused-of-killing-three-neighbors-in-parking-feud-held-without-bond
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/you-mexicans-shouldnt-be-here-man-allegedly-killed-neighbor-in-front-of-his-kids-after-fight-over-loud-music
https://www.kagstv.com/article/news/crime/man-arrested-charged-with-two-counts-of-murder-in-late-night-college-station-shooting/499-92629216-69f1-4b0a-9906-f7e558d52275
https://truecrimedaily.com/2023/06/22/south-carolina-sumter-george-gregory-anderson-shot-murder-levon-wilson-neighbor
https://www.wistv.com/2023/06/13/man-accused-shooting-woman-after-argument-with-neighbor
various incidences from April:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ralph_Yarl
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172894220/cleveland-texas-houston-shooting-deaths
https://abc7ny.com/north-carolina-6-year-old-shot-basketball-shooting-robert-singletary-kinsley-white/13158533
from May:
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/you-mexicans-shouldnt-be-here-man-allegedly-killed-neighbor-in-front-of-his-kids-after-fight-over-loud-music
https://www.courthousenews.com/two-arrested-in-connection-to-texas-mass-shooting
Precisely how many people have been full on ready to drunkenly bang their daughter, and were persuaded not to by a billboard?
They were persuaded to rape their date instead.
I like how there's an implication with a roadside billboard that they're driving home drunk as well.
Nah, there's no way a state with drive-thru daiquiri shops has anybody driving drunk.
Wait drive through bars are a thing?? Who in the absolute fuck thought that was a good idea.
Louisiana thinks that's a good idea. It's OK though - they put a piece of scotch tape over the lid.
Facepalm.
Hate to be that guy, but I think the sign is actually meant for the daughter, not the father. The rhetoric isn't "hey, maybe don't have sex with your kid?" it's "yo girlie, those things your father did to you were totally not okay, even though he was drunk/apologized afterwards/whatever."
I get that that still sounds painfully obvious, but trust me to people for whom "abuse" is their "normal," messages like this handing out really obvious messages are still useful
That makes more sense, it's still extremely depressing this has to be a thing š®āšØ
It probably helped prevent a single rape, but that was because they live directly in front of the sign and saw it illuminated by lightning a day they were drunk.
Coincidentally, the exact same number of people who have been convinced to stop gambling by a giant casino billboard ad with a tiny 800 number at the bottom.
Back when this was posted on Reddit someone who worked in CPS chimed in. The short of it was: Yes , men raping their under age daughters is frighteningly common in some states and a common form of victimization of the girls that CPS handles.
I guess my question is, why would a billboard do anything to dissuade them from it?
I'm just an ignorant Yank, but is this really a big enough issue in the shit hole states that a billboard is necessary? I can't even believe this is real!
About 30% of rape cases against children occur in the close family, so probably yes.(Numbers are from Germany).
Growing up in Wisconsin, drunk driving was a serious issue. Especially on New Years and the Fourth of July. The joke was that every little town throughout Wisconsin always had a church and a bar. There were so many alcoholics that would spend every day at those bars. It's a tradition that probably goes back to the idea of public houses and having bars be a central location where your community gathers. Many people take the drinking part of that too far though and so the anti-drunk driving PSAs were necessary.
This isn't actually a drunk driving poster though. This is a drunk fucking your daughter PSA.
Yes and also, I doubt the effectiveness of snapping their mind out of this
I sorta need a google maps link showing it. Its just crazy pants.
Every time I see this sign I feel disgusted
why cant it just say "dont fuck your daughter, asshole"
Instructions unclear, interpreted as "don't fuck your daughter's asshole"
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So... raping your date is ok ?
Nah the daughter wanted it, he knows because he was drunk at the time.
Reminds me of the bible story about the daughter's that got their father drunk and had sex with him. I'm totally sure that's what happened and it wasn't the father raping his daughters then blaming them for it.
I never thought about it like that wow that makes sense.
I love how the initial response is "I think he actually raped his daughters" instead of "the entire thing is literally just made up to control people like the rest of the bible."
Relax, Lot never even existed.
I think the point is that even in a story they made up they create a fantasy where it's the daughters fault for raping the father, not the other way around which it would obviously be.
Relax with telling people to relax, they were pretty calm in their comment.
Only if you have a valid excuse - like being drunk apparently
Pretty sure there are still states in the US where a marriage liscense is basically just that. God I hate it here.
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Like out of 10?
"Drunk never excuse"
Getting is an drunk never excuse.
Someone is gonna have to help me out here.
It says, "Don't fuck your kids."
The disturbing part is people need a billboard to tell them that.
What. Word more you? Enough!
"Getting is an"
And naturally for THIS billboard, they use a person of color as a model.
And they use white people to promote Juneteenth celebrations
I honestly thought this was a donāt drink and drive campaign and was struggling trying to reason out why it said ānot your dateā as if it was ok to drive drunk with a date.
Having to put up a āPlease donāt ride your childrenā sign is something I thought we reserved for hamsters
This just raises more questions. Can the person this ad is aimed at even read? Is this ad seriously suggesting to rape his date as an alternative to raping his daughter?
I remember one time driving through Oklahoma or Missouri in 04. 3 billboards in a row.. "Stop" 2nd "Take a BREAK" 3rd, "Don't ever shake a baby"
Why you need one let alone 3 is a disappointing reflection of reality.
Unrelated but you just reminded me of that excellent movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, which I must now go rewatch
I totally forgot about this movie until you mentioned it, but it is incredible. Thank you for reminding me of this Frances Mcdormand masterpiece
Why wouldn't you shake a baby? That's the quickest way to stop them crying
Me, my papa was shaken baby, my papas papa was a shake baby, and my granpappy papa was a shaken baby, we all terned out altright. It's called parenting!1!1!
Jesus fucking Christ please tell me this is fake
It's absolutely not.
We had one up where I live that had a picture of a sad looking girl, maybe 12-14 and the text said: "Paying to have sex with children is a crime." And then a number to call.
Nope.
Sweet home Alabama
Dontdeadopeniside
that's what I was waiting for. Has that sub migrated to lemmy yet?
It legit took me more than 5 seconds to realise what it's supposed to mean. Fckin hell how is this even real?
Now they need one about how being clergy is never an excuse.
itās all about education baby
What does thie mean? Bettet to kill the girl than rape her? Wtf.... Both are fucked up
"Bettet to kill the girl than rape her?'
Talk me through exactly how you got that message from this billboard?
Better to kill a fetus that has no conscience than to ruin a teen thatās going to have to carry that trauma for their whole life.