Ain't this guy pro Trump? I'm starting to think Elon might be some sort of idiot...
And I'm not even sure if he qualifies as a useful idiot...
Nope. Just the regular kind.
Nah he's useful as long as he has money.
Burning down Twitter has definitely been useful.
To be fair he didn't want to
Oh yeah. I forget sometimes that that was the most expensive shitpost of all time.
Let that sink in
Yeah, we need to spend more on our shitpost!
Trump didn't want to win in 2016. His whole candidacy was basically a shit post gone awry, and that was so expensive that it may still cost us democracy in the US.
Similarly, that's how Brexit happened too.
TBF again, he probably could have sold it again and not lost himself and other investors so much money. He still has a hero complex, it is part of his stupidity.
I mean, he couldhave sold it......but he bought it for 43 BILLION dollars.
Prior to the sale, twitter was losing money. It had never been profitable. And it was NEVER worth 43 BILLION dollars.
Sure, he could sell it for 30 million dollars, but what sense does that make?
The fact of it is, he'll likely never recover the costs he paid, because of the stupid high price he paid for a never profitable company.
The part that baffles me is......why haven't the userbase flooded outwards? If you're on twitter today, and you're not on bluesky/mastodon, you have nooooooooo right to complain that musk is supporting a facist agenda.
He is. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying twitter users have no right to complain about it, because they enable it.
That's its snowballing. You know you'd be pretty obligated to use one channel of communication if everyone uses it becauae you need to stay in touch. The same works in leaving it because you feel like ditching former Tweeter is leaving the place everyone is, even politicians.
Never used it. Never missed it. Never lost touch.
Anything that ever happened on that site worthy of being called "being in touch" has always been and always will be reported elsewhere too if its actually worthwhile. I see more more of it than I want to anyway. Even this post.
You can quit it today and not miss out on anything.
Well, it's not really snowballing. That would suggest they gained users since elon bought it. They were all there, they just refuse to leave.
And it all starts with creating a different account. Either bluesky or mastodon. Still keep twitter, but create this other account. And use it.
Now you have two accounts. And as people do this, mastodon and bluesky would face a moment where they realize that if they combined their activity, their usability would double.
If bluesky and mastodon each had a few million users, and they both became part of the fediverse, and played nice with all fediverse platforms, then suddenly bluesky users could see mastodon posts, and lemmy posts, and pixelfed posts, and peertube posts.
Same with mastodon.
And now suddenly you have a usable alternative. And people can leave twitter, but they won't leave twitter, like you said because all the content they want to consume is already there. And who produces content people want to see? Celebrities. Go check any celebrities page, they have millions of followers. Well if they started using the fediverse instead, all those millions of people have a reason to use mastodon, or bluesky as a secondary platform. And as time goes on, and more celebrities come with them, they bring their core audience.
See my post in the fediverse community for my thoughts on that, and how everyone hates it.
Everyone wants to take down google, and reddit, and twitter, but they don't want "those people" coming here. They want this place to grow....but they don't want normies and celebrities here.
No take stick, only throw.
snowballing
yeah, it is not snowballing, it is Network Effect. for the people who want to use a twitter-like social network, the value is in the many other people using it.
but, as you are doing, telling people to leave is the correct move. because for every person that the network loses, the network loses value for everyone (the network effect going in reverse)
Sell the website to who? Aquaman?
What!? He was forced to be responsible for his words? /s
I can't remember, exactly, but didn't he start the process and then try and back out of it?
Yes he sent a damn signed contract.
It saddens me a little when I see people that I like still using the bird corpse. Harry is empowering Elon by burning him.
It's a double edged sword.
Yeah the only way to kill a troll is to... just stop talking to/about them. They feed off the negativity of others - Elon likes it when people increase the stock price of his company, and allow him to sell the userbase to advertising firms, so every single word of this just makes the Musk all that much stronger. Every. Single. Word.
He's act kinda resembles a guy who would have had a burnout, but keeps going with amphetamine. Not sleeping at nights, unable to concentrate, arbitrary snap decisions, slowly loosing sanity, illusions of grandeur, common ideological ground with Trump, etc. Decade of that and he'll be Trump.
Oh shit it hadn't occurred to me that the logical end state for Elon is running for president
Born outside the USA, so Elon can't run for president.
I‘m so glad this is the case.
This is getting out of hand! Now there are TWO of them.
I can hear hbombers voice lol
SELL X TO WHO?
I bid 1 dollar.
c/selfawarewolf
Common Harry W
I bet he really thinks "i am not one of those that want power, i have and always had power".
He sees himself on a much much higher level of existence, than we mere lemmings...
Ain't this guy pro Trump? I'm starting to think Elon might be some sort of idiot...
And I'm not even sure if he qualifies as a useful idiot...
Nope. Just the regular kind.
Nah he's useful as long as he has money.
Burning down Twitter has definitely been useful.
To be fair he didn't want to
Oh yeah. I forget sometimes that that was the most expensive shitpost of all time.
Let that sink in
Yeah, we need to spend more on our shitpost!
Trump didn't want to win in 2016. His whole candidacy was basically a shit post gone awry, and that was so expensive that it may still cost us democracy in the US.
Similarly, that's how Brexit happened too.
TBF again, he probably could have sold it again and not lost himself and other investors so much money. He still has a hero complex, it is part of his stupidity.
I mean, he couldhave sold it......but he bought it for 43 BILLION dollars.
Prior to the sale, twitter was losing money. It had never been profitable. And it was NEVER worth 43 BILLION dollars.
Sure, he could sell it for 30 million dollars, but what sense does that make?
The fact of it is, he'll likely never recover the costs he paid, because of the stupid high price he paid for a never profitable company.
The part that baffles me is......why haven't the userbase flooded outwards? If you're on twitter today, and you're not on bluesky/mastodon, you have nooooooooo right to complain that musk is supporting a facist agenda.
He is. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying twitter users have no right to complain about it, because they enable it.
That's its snowballing. You know you'd be pretty obligated to use one channel of communication if everyone uses it becauae you need to stay in touch. The same works in leaving it because you feel like ditching former Tweeter is leaving the place everyone is, even politicians.
Never used it. Never missed it. Never lost touch.
Anything that ever happened on that site worthy of being called "being in touch" has always been and always will be reported elsewhere too if its actually worthwhile. I see more more of it than I want to anyway. Even this post.
You can quit it today and not miss out on anything.
Well, it's not really snowballing. That would suggest they gained users since elon bought it. They were all there, they just refuse to leave.
And it all starts with creating a different account. Either bluesky or mastodon. Still keep twitter, but create this other account. And use it.
Now you have two accounts. And as people do this, mastodon and bluesky would face a moment where they realize that if they combined their activity, their usability would double.
If bluesky and mastodon each had a few million users, and they both became part of the fediverse, and played nice with all fediverse platforms, then suddenly bluesky users could see mastodon posts, and lemmy posts, and pixelfed posts, and peertube posts.
Same with mastodon.
And now suddenly you have a usable alternative. And people can leave twitter, but they won't leave twitter, like you said because all the content they want to consume is already there. And who produces content people want to see? Celebrities. Go check any celebrities page, they have millions of followers. Well if they started using the fediverse instead, all those millions of people have a reason to use mastodon, or bluesky as a secondary platform. And as time goes on, and more celebrities come with them, they bring their core audience.
See my post in the fediverse community for my thoughts on that, and how everyone hates it.
Everyone wants to take down google, and reddit, and twitter, but they don't want "those people" coming here. They want this place to grow....but they don't want normies and celebrities here.
No take stick, only throw.
yeah, it is not snowballing, it is Network Effect. for the people who want to use a twitter-like social network, the value is in the many other people using it.
but, as you are doing, telling people to leave is the correct move. because for every person that the network loses, the network loses value for everyone (the network effect going in reverse)
Sell the website to who? Aquaman?
What!? He was forced to be responsible for his words? /s
I can't remember, exactly, but didn't he start the process and then try and back out of it?
Yes he sent a damn signed contract.
It saddens me a little when I see people that I like still using the bird corpse. Harry is empowering Elon by burning him.
It's a double edged sword.
Yeah the only way to kill a troll is to... just stop talking to/about them. They feed off the negativity of others - Elon likes it when people increase the stock price of his company, and allow him to sell the userbase to advertising firms, so every single word of this just makes the Musk all that much stronger. Every. Single. Word.
He's act kinda resembles a guy who would have had a burnout, but keeps going with amphetamine. Not sleeping at nights, unable to concentrate, arbitrary snap decisions, slowly loosing sanity, illusions of grandeur, common ideological ground with Trump, etc. Decade of that and he'll be Trump.
Oh shit it hadn't occurred to me that the logical end state for Elon is running for president
Born outside the USA, so Elon can't run for president.
I‘m so glad this is the case.
This is getting out of hand! Now there are TWO of them.
I can hear hbombers voice lol
SELL X TO WHO?
I bid 1 dollar.
c/selfawarewolf
Common Harry W
I bet he really thinks "i am not one of those that want power, i have and always had power".
He sees himself on a much much higher level of existence, than we mere lemmings...
At least, that's my impression.
Yet another quality self own.
Loneskum