YSK: Installing a bidet attachment to your toilet is super easy and probably cleaner than using toilet paper.

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Why YSK: It's cleaner, cheaper and more convenient than toilet paper

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Imagine you get your hands covered in sticky filth. Do you wash them at a sink or just wipe them off with some paper and call it good?

Why do any different for your ass?

Because your ass does literally nothing else all day, but your hands touch things like food etc. I'd say it was more like getting shit on your leg. Do you wipe it off or just wait until you next have a shower?

That said I love the idea of bidets, I'm just terrified it'll get my underwear and clothes wet while being cold and unpleasant.

I’m just terrified it’ll get my underwear and clothes wet while being cold and unpleasant.

The beam is way more focused than you might imagine. It can't reach your clothes, there's a fat-ass human in the way ;)

" I'm just terrified it'll get my underwear and clothes wet while being cold and unpleasant." I've never had this issue.

It’s a focused stream of water so you just have to aim a little. And the cold water is actually surprisingly refreshing even in the winter for me.

I’m terrified of bears. A little excess moisture? A low level fear at most.

it's more like having shit smeared on your face. you wouldn't use a tissue to wipe it off and smear it around, you'd use soap and water.

Wash them with soap and water and scrub them then dry them with a towel.

My favorite pro-bidet argument from chainsawsuit.com

.....you dont wash your hands?

That's exactly the comparison that the comic strip is making. People are okay with just using tissue in one situation but not in others.

I think the other comparison we're overlooking is how many people would be ok with "just a quick rinse" if they were washing shit off their hands.

Well it's a quick rinse with or without some TP to dry versus just smearing it around your butt with dry paper.

.... you don't wash your butt?

Your point is also the point of the comic: saying that you've rubbed dry paper on your butthole and that makes it "clean" is analagous to getting poop on your hands and doing the same.

You wash your hands; you should also wash your butt: so get a bidet.

Except that I don't touch literally everything else including my food with my butthole, though. And it's not as if I never wash my butthole. So if I happen to be in a public shitter and I drop a deuce, I will simply apply shit tickets and not freak out about it.

I'm from the US. While I have travelled to locales where they are commonplace, I never actually tried one. When lockdown and the tp crisis started, however, I purchased one online. I now hate having to use any lavatory that doesn't have a bidet.

Q - Doesn't it feel weird? A - No. Some people are worried that it may feel sexual. It doesn't. It's just a localized shower on your ass, which is something you hopefully do regularly.

Q - Won't it just push detritus away from the epicenter and make a mess? A - It can, if the bidet has narrow spray. Mine does this. Just do a quick shimmy that makes the jet draw a decreasing radius spiral.

Q - Doesn't everything get wet? A - Some bidets have air dryers, but in the absence of, yes. Keep tp in the lav to address this. The quick wipe to address this still saves a ton of tp.

Some people are worried that it may feel sexual.

I... did not know this was a concern? lol

I should clarify that I live in a remote area where a lot of people are homophobes. Anything directed towards one's ass is, as the kids would say, sus af to these folks.

The I don't wipe or wash my ass because that's gay crowd. What a special bunch.

The "let me be hyperfocused on sexualizing other men's anuses to show how straight and manly I am" crowd.

I have to say I do LIKE the feeling of the jet hitting my sphincter. I mean it's not full hunnnrrrr but it is ...pleasent

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All well and good until a guest uses your bathroom and then comments on the thoughtfulness of you setting up that container of damp facecloths for them to freshen up with.

Ok first thank you for your insight. Second, your name made me lol.

I have this visual of a hip wiggle in a spiral now. 🀣

I did some travels in places where bidets are common, here's my take:

  • Egypt - basically a brass pipe targeted at your hole, everyone shitting oh it - no for me
  • Italy - standalone, you have to jump over - impractical, takes too much space
  • Japan/Korea - toilets from space, heated seat warm, water and dryer - comfy, but you need electricity, and if it fails, expensive
  • Finland - a shower attached to the toilet's water intake - just cold water, but it's fine, that's the easiest to install and use

South-East Asia - Hose attached to the tank or a tap in the wall. Best of all the worlds, just make sure you don't touch the tip.

Also South East Asia - bucket of water with a plastic cup next to the hole in the floor. I don't have a problem dribbling water down my buttcrack with my right hand while scrubbing my clacker valve with my left hand, but squatting over a hole in the floor is hell on the knees when you are nearly 2m tall.

I'll never understand how people live without a bidet.

I've never used a bidet, are you wet in your ass after leaving the toilet, or do you whipe the water off with toilet paper?

We have little towels for drying off. They have a bin under the sink for when they are used and they get washed before reuse.

I just drip dry. it's not like your whole ass gets wet

I like to use toilet paper to get the bulk of it, then use wet wipes after.

Shouldn't flush those either.

Get a bidet, at worst you waste like $30, at best you will know true comfort.

You convinced me, I will try it one day when I have $30 to use. (Probably be a while lol) My method works well, but it takes a while. I'd rather use a bidet if it saves time.

As someone who born to a country where a bidet is the norm and migrated to a country which doesn't have it. We start to use wet wipes and believe me when I say it a bidet is way way way better. So I bought an attachment. Now I can't use any other toilet except that one.

How dare you! Jajajaja. I guess everyone can do it as pleased

Lol at least I made progress. I was taught to just use toilet paper when I was a kid. Now if I have to do that, I feel so dirty

I feel quite the opposite. Hear me, if you stick your finger in penut butter and just clean it with paper, you can still taste it if you suck it. But of you wash it with water your truly clean. But didn't want to sound like I was criticizing. Cheers

You should also know that if you do this, when you go on vacation you are going to have one seriously sore butthole until you get home again.

seriously. I should look into a travel bidet.. it's hard going back to tp now that I have bidets installed at home. feels nasty

I fear shitting outside of my house now lol there is no going back!!

I mean at least in Europe when you use a bidet you use soap and then still dry a few times with tp. These contraptions are good to soften the ass crud but you'll still need to wipe it off with tp.

Have been using bidet my entire life. It's a must! This post should be more of a PSA rather than YSK.

Please God, I beg you all to do this. I mean no disrespect to y'all at all.

I have been using a bidet/health faucet/Jet spray all my life. I was so shocked and disgusted when I found out people in the west used toilet paper 🀒🀒

I've used toilet paper a few times in emergencies and I've regretted it everytime. The difference between water and paper in cleaning your butt is so vast.

40$ attachment and no more swamp ass. Say goodbye to foul balls. And no more tainted taint.

Honestly, I thought I was pretty clean before getting a bidet, but since getting one I can never go back without feeling gross. It's weird what we can get used to, when that's just how you've done things your whole life.

Good god are you blasting crap out everywhere? 🀣

We got a bidet during COVID, my only issue with it is the fact that it ruins every other non-bidet having bathroom forever.

I got a Tushy classic bidet a year ago. It is amazing! For anyone out there that uses more toilet paper than you think you should, gets a raw bum from wiping, or wants to get three times cleaner, a bidet is for you. I'm a dude, but also my wife loves it. Honestly, one of the best purchases per dollar I have ever made and one that reminds me daily.

If you got poop on your hands, what do you think will get you cleaner? Couple of wipes with toilet paper or rinsing in the sink with water.

Being fairly hairy, a bidet is absolutely one of the top 5 things I miss whenever I come home to the UK from Finland. My dad did some work in Abu Dhabi last year and has also been converted to team bidet, so hoping he installs one before I move up to his, it makes a huge difference.

I keep seeing bidets recommended. Ive thought about getting one, but I'm not sure.

Are there any vagina owners here that can testify to them? I'm worried it will just spray poop up into my bits.

My girlfriend loves the bidet. You will not spray poop up into your bits but I get your concern. We also have a dial, on ours, to change the angle to vagina-mode. Great for periods, allegedly, but it blasts me in the balls if I don't notice.

occasional ball-blasting from frigid intake water is a small price to pay for a squeaky-clean b-hole

The water is not pulled from the bowl, it's fed from the same pipe your tank pulls from. They're great, but if your water is cold, well you have to brace yourself.

I've never had it spray poop into my bits, so you should be good.

Now this is the kind of content I want more of going forward x

What the fuck bidets are not common in the West? Scared that it will spray poop bits in vagina??? What's going on over there.

Am american:

Many People here are very hesitant to try one out.

They have some weird thing about butts & water. And shooting water onto ones butt. Its like they consider it overtly sexual and therefore weird and european.

Once people try it out they usually like it.

But the honest truth is: most americans walk around all day with dirty butts.

There is said it.

Nobody has it, so people don't see/experience them to to change their minds.

Having said that, I tried it once on holiday. It only got rid of half the 'residue', so I'm not really convinced enough to spend money on one. Another issue is that the reservoir and pipes are hidden behind a tiled wall. Installing one isn't going to be a 5 minute job.

Got one for Christmas and it had been a revolutionary improvement for my pooping life. Now every time I travel or have to poo in public I spend the whole time pouting and thinking wistfully about my bidet at home.

When I bought my house I replaced all 3 toilets and added bidets to them. Life changing, I can't believe I went without them for so many years.

Scored myself a bidet during that TP shortage at the beginning of COVID lockdown and it’s been a game changer. Get one because your butt will especially thank you after a spicy Thai or Indian night. Spicy poo and mud butt? What are those?

I've used a bidet my whole life, then i moved to a european country where that's not a thing anywhere, and since i sublet i cant make big plumbing changes etc so i carry portable bidets with me and enjoy my wash and wipe lifestyle wherever i go. They are a few bucks on any online store

We have bidets on each toilet and will never go back. Its impossible.

Alright look, I swear I'm not just trying to be nasty. But poo always seemed to be......greasy.....to me. Shooting water at it seems equivalent to cleaning up oil with plain water - it just moves it around. Am I way off with this line of reasoning?

Change your diet.

I'm already a vegetarian with a few cheat meals occasionally - are you thinking beef and chicken might make my logs less greasy?

No, any high oily diet would do that veggie or not. Vegetarianism doesn't necessarily equal healthy food that's good for your gut, if your stool is genuinely greasy please examine your diet.

Apologies if this came off as attacking you I've just gotten up and could have written my initial comment to be less direct.

Yes you are, it really helps. They can spray quite hard. You will feel 1000% cleaner after.

I can't really say that I've ever felt particularly "unclean" after using just TP. But I might just give this bidet thing a try. Maybe I've been missing out all this time.

Poo is water soluble. It's just stomach juices with the nutrients and water sucked out of it by your intestines.

Legit, if you have enough fat in your stool for it to feel greasy, that may be steatorrhea, which may be a symptom of some underlying condition.

Or, it could just be too much fat in your diet. Most of the time, that's what it is, just not being well balanced in terms of fats vs fiber and carbs. Surprisingly, vegetarians are more prone to it than meat eaters in my experience, because meat eaters tend to eat their meat with different foods than vegetarians use to keep their protein intake right. So the vegetarians end up not realizing the fats they're taking in.

Varies a good bit though since some meat eaters don't actually eat enough of the other things to keep it balanced out.

Anyway, point is that everything comes down to poo.

I wonder whether you meant "bidet shower" or "bidet" (meant as a stand-alone additional sanitary equipment for a toilet room).

Video tutorial

I installed 1 bidet about 3 months before the height of the toilet paper shortage in 2020. Got used to it and recommended to everyone. I got installed another right as stores sold completely out of toilet paper. I do not feel clean without it.

Got one for Christmas and it had been a revolutionary improvement for my pooping life. Now every time I travel or have to poo in public I spend the whole time pouting and thinking wistfully about my bidet at home.

Consider checking out the backpacking bidets like culo clean or holey hiker

I honestly have no idea why bidets haven't taken off in the US. After travelling to other countries though, had to buy one for my home toilet. And now I hate having to poop elsewhere where there's no bidet.

This is the kind of quality content that will get people to move away from reddit.

Alternatively, installing a faucet near the toilet and placing bucket and dipper (locally it's tabo) is great. Common in the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabo\_(hygiene))

How do you actually use it, though? Wikipedia was strangely coy about what actually happens with the little pan of water.

OK, so, I actually did this a few months ago!

But, in my opinion, it is not a 100% replacement for toilet paper. First, everything gets wet after using-and if you're hairy like me you really do want to dry it, and I use TP to do that. Also, I've noticed that it doesn't always get everything-and using some TP to dry off is also a good way to make sure everything is clean.

And it also has a good bit of spray that will land on the seat and the bidet itself. You need to clean that off, I tend to do it with toilet paper when I stand up.

You won't stop using TP, but you'll certainly use less of it, I think I use about half as much now as before.

Yeh, same after we installed ours. Doesn't replace the paper but we sure buy a LOT less. Also it just feels cleaner. I hate using the bathroom at other peoples' houses now x.x

Stayed at a hotel last night and was curious how much I would need to pay to get a room with a bidet. Once you use one you can't go back.

I can't even get the main water valve to close.

I also tried it once with the focused setting on a shower head and it was just a mess. It goes everywhere, but doesn't get rid of it properly. And in the end you end up with a dirty wet ass that you still have to wipe. I also feel that the toilet bowl does not offer enough space if you have one with a shelf, add a big dump to that and you'd have to poke it with the bidet.

ok.....I'm intrigued. I've actually been using my kid's baby wipes because really, anything is better than dry TP. Looking at some options on Costco, seems the cheapy is just a hand-held thing for $80, then the seat-integrated ones are around $300 and up. Is the seat integration worthwhile? What about water temp? Is it basically a cold-shot to the butthole? That'll wake me up, no doubt.

I thought the cold shot to the hole was going to be horrible, but it's actually a little refreshing.

Huh....OK more intrigued. I can't say I've had that experience. FOMO is building.

I got mine on Amazon, it's integrated into the seat, as in it is a toilet seat with a built-in bidet. It has two settings, for b-holes and lady bits. $100. It only does cold water, but it's not as bad as you expect. You get used to it quick.

It truly is life changing. A roommate received one as a gift in college. We soon fitted the other bathroom with a bidet as well because it was too good.

Do they make any that don't take up the rear 3/4 of the seat? I'm interested in getting one but with the standard round toilet you lose a lot of real estate. I don't want my poops to look like they've been squeezed through a playdough extruder or worry about missing my target in an emergency situation.

Not true at all. Look into the brand Tushy. I have one of their bidets and you don't even notice it.

I've tried them before and have never had a good experience. It either is too high pressure and hurts, or it's too low pressure and doesn't clean.

And I'm not particularly a fan of how wet everything gets down there after using one.

Is there a particular trick to them or, am I missing something?

The one I have has a dial to adjust how fast the water comes out. Sometimes I need a gentle whisper of water, othertimes I need my butthole power washed.

You can get ones where the valve is metered so you can open it a little for low power or sightly more for more water. I always wipe once after using it mine, which keeps things dry, but I ain't never had to wipe twice.

Sounds like your asshole is just a tad sensitive. Maybe you can get the toilet to buy you dinner first and see if that helps?

Maybe you can get the toilet to buy you dinner first and see if that helps?

Normally it is my girlfriend that does that, so I am doubtful it is a sensitivity issue lmao.

I've thought of getting at least a portable Bidet for a while (I rent, so can't really install a proper bidet). How easy are they to install?

It's a 10 minute job for a non plumber and I tell you it's SO much better than wiping. A quick gentle wipe to dry, and it only takes one or two, and very little TP. Once you get used to it that is. I hate going anywhere else now, as I find it so comfortable.

For a bidet attachment like tushy it's just shut off the water, flush to drain toilet, remove seat, attach bidet and use the hose splitter for the water, and put seat back on over the bidet attachment.

Not sure I understand all of what you're saying, but sounds like I could fill in the blanks with a video tutorial. I'll have to take a look, thanks

I want a bidet but my gf is worried about one thing : she have huge perriods, and doesn't see use a bidet to clean it. Is it convenient?

You'd want one with front feminine wash and has warm water.

It's the same philosophy with what's wrong with wiping your ass with tee pee, wiping still leaves a large amount around and in there, but instead of your asshole, it's the privates.

The bonus is that if you're really having a bad time on the toilet, the spray gets it out. Same thing for the front. Gets it all out.

If that isn't enough, the warm feeling of the water should be really comforting.

If all else fails, a heated seat will do it.

I'm a guy though, so I can't really vouch how effective that wash is.

Does anyone know what options exist for those who rent? I just have a travel attachment but it's more annoying to fill it up every time.

I've installed a bidet attachment as a renter. Make sure you use plumbers tape and, after your install, leave a piece of paper under the installation overnight to make sure it's not leaking. When you leave, uninstalling is pretty easy.

Another upvote for the Bidet. Super easy to install, I think mine was Β£40 and it's a life changer.

$40! Hope it's high quality shit. In Asia where bidet is a common thing, it costed around $10

Had no idea they were that cheap. Could've gotten one forever ago, lol

I love using a bidet, but one problem I do have with it is that the water jet thingy stopped receding after a while, so every flush now splashes poop and water onto the jet nozzle and I have to manually use the cleaning mode every time I use the bidet.

Imagine you got poop on your arm and decided to wipe it away with toilet paper. You know there's still poop on it. The same thing goes for your butt. Clean your butt!

Do you all have an electric outlet by your toilet to get heated water already? I'm interested in trying it out in my house, but don't want to run electric for it.

heated water is nice, but room temperature water direct from the pipes is not as cold as I expected. It's still much better than TP.

Do you all have an electric outlet by your toilet to get heated water already? I'm interested in trying it out in my house, but don't want to run electric for it.

laughs in Italian yes come to the right side of personal hygiene

I got one as a gift and never hooked it up.

I got one during the toilet paper run in pandemic. Never looked back. I do look down on tp users now, though... Bunch of heathens with poopy butts.

There are about a million people here all saying the same thing. It’s amazing, it’s better than you think, and once you use one, you will never ever go back.

It’s all true. When you poop in a public restroom or at a friends house without one, you will feel tainted.

In the winter if you’re worried about cold water, you should know the anus is not very temperature sensitive. I suppose because in our evolutionary past we did not use our anus much to sense the temperature of objects.

I almost lost my mind on vacation a few months ago. I had a good time but using the bidet was the first thing I did when getting home.

I’m sticking with my baby wipes + waste basket method until I need to replace the toilet entirely. My space is kind of small so storing all of these accessories is a pain.

Once I need to upgrade, I will upgrade to one of those Japanese toilets with the built in bidet system

I never thought I'd see someone planning their toilet upgrade plan

Doesn't wiping your butt and then putting the poopy wipe in the bin make your dunny smell like shit though?

Scented bags and a waste basket with a lid traps the odors

After going to Japan, I ordered a genuine Toto washlet (warm water, heated, drying, all sort of goodies) and gave it to my wife for Christmas.

It's her favourite Christmas gift ever, even after almost a decade. The only gift that still gets daily use :). We had a problem with it a few years back and sent to the North American service centre. Flat rate for a complete refurbish. Awesome!

My biggest regret ever was not buying an electric Toto bidet.

SERIOUSLY do not cheap out on it.

It is worth every cent.

As someone from outside the West, the idea of just wiping with a tissue paper, and not using a bidet or its equivalent grosses me out tbh.

As someone from inside the West, same. Dudes be walking round with stank ass all day.

In italy we had one but used it to wash our junk when we didn't have time to take a shower. Never even thought about using it after shitting. My mom taught me it was a vagina washing sink.