Here comes another Netflix price hike

Jungle George 🌴@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.world – 438 points – Here comes another Netflix price hike
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Get ready to pay more for Netflix’s priciest plan.

Subscribers to Netflix’s Basic and Premium plans will be paying more, with prices rising to $11.99 and $22.99 per month in the US.

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Netflix announced that it's password crackdown "exceeded expectations"

I am so disappointed in you, US consumer.

I canceled my Netflix when this happened. I wasn't really using it, but friends and family were. At least three of them created their own accounts when I canceled mine.

Of course they're going to say that. They won't provide hard data to prove it, but by saying it they can keep doing it and make it look like a positive PR move.

They're a publicly-traded company, they have to prove it. And they have.

I cancelled after the last hike, and my family has access to my plex server with great quality and reliability, and a simple request system. But they barely use it. They just got their own Netflix after I cancelled the one we shared that I was paying for.

Finally got fiber at my home and created many accounts for my family on my emby server. Wanted to give them access to my overseer server but I don't trust it's very secure. I will just let them access it and make requests when they visit.

I think a reverse proxy really helps with the security concerns

Not being a network guy, it took a bit for me to get reverse proxy set up on my Synology NAS, but now all my services run through it and have LetsEncrypt certs.

Highly recommend reverse proxy to obscure your services and make it easier for friends and family to find them!

Yeah, it wasn't the easiest thing. Though, I think my biggest problem was due to docker. All of my services are in containers, reverse proxy included, and it took a bit to figure out that not all network types in docker containers can natively communicate with eachother. I think I ended up putting everything in bridged mode so they could all communicate.

You're father along in the tech than I am, so kudos! I tried docker and just couldn't get things to work how I wanted or expected. I'm sure I'll try again in the future but had a kid in 2019 so haven't really revisited it! You give me hope!!

Fat Far out! You're like the only person I've seen mention emby. It's always Plex. Been running emby for a while and it's great.

Do you use sonarr/radarr/jackett? I can’t seem to find any good indexers that actually work

Sonarr radarr prowlarr

Accounts with IPTorrents, AlphaRatio, and TorrentLeech

All my stuff comes from them

Looks like IPT and TL are invite only or you can pay money.. Is that how you got in or did you get an invite? Seems kinda sketchy sending them money for a seedbox I’ll never use. AT is inv only.

I got an invite for IPT from a friend, was my first private tracker. I think the others I got during open registrations they had.

I’ve got invites, you able to seed back for 2 weeks?

If multiple invitees have bad ratio, the inviter can have their account disabled. So usually invite sharing with strangers goes along with proof of past ratio.

There was a subreddit for it, maybe there’s a lemmy community

That would be awesome if I could get invites! I just set up a headless Ubuntu Server that will always be on and I can set up my seed ratio to infinite.

I’m rocking ProtonVPN pro with fiber so I have 1000Mbps up/down without vpn. Not exactly sure what the max up with that is.

As for proof I don’t have much. My only current one is 49gb downloaded v 53gb up

Just curious, are you able to see the ratio of your invitees?

Just checked, and yes, on all 3 platforms I see the username of the person I invited and can check their stats, and I can also see the person who invited me and their stats.

I've been doodling around with Plex and sonarr in a Docker setup on my Linux box, but I've run into some issues that I can't figure out. Any good resources to recommend for creating the optimal setup?

I can't say I know of a good single resource, I've learned a lot about docker and linux over the years just googling and trying things. There are now a number of scripts and docker-compose setups that will get everything set up for you with little effort.

My setup is using docker containers running on the UnRaid OS. UnRaid makes docker deployment slightly easier, but it requires that a docker container also include a custom config file that allows it to be configured via unraid's webui. I've found this limiting from time to time, when I find dockers that I want to use, but couldn't install via the webui. So I learned a bit about using docker from the command line, which actually wasn't all that hard. Especially with docker-compose.

One issue in particular that took a minute to figure out with docker, if you need the containers to talk to eachother, you have to be aware that certain types of docker network connections will not automatically see the other containers, even if both containers are connected to your home network.

Just stick with Plex/Jellyfin + any and all apps ending with *arr (aka the *arr stack).

One issue in particular that took a minute to figure out with docker, if you need the containers to talk to eachother, you have to be aware that certain types of docker network connections will not automatically see the other containers, even if both containers are connected to your home network.

Yup, this is exactly the issue I haven't been able to figure out. For some reason, the files I download in Sonarr are associated with a user group that Plex isn't a part of, so Plex can't see the files (and I've tried adding Plex to that group and it still doesn't work, argh). I know you can specify a UID and other specifics when you initialize a container, but inside the container itself that doesn't seem to apply, it sets its own user parameters. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and just run the software on my machine itself with a VPN, because then at least everything will be able to talk to each other.

Luckily perms don’t seem to be much of an issue on UnRaid, I think there’s a solid convention for user and group so files are generally accessible to all apps.

Worst case scenario, you just chmod 777 everything

Make a new user group and add everyone to it, then change the permissions of the target directory Sudo addgroup newgroup Sudo usermod —append —groups newgroup user Sudo chown -r newgroup:newgroup ./*

I had the same issue. Adding it all to the same group fixed it for me

Either they blatantly lie about the outcome of the password crackdown or they see no issues at all to showcase how mind-bogglingly greedy they are. I think I've read this week they claim that subscriptions increased by 6 million worldwide. You'd think that is enough increase in revenue for a while, but no, let's increase prices now. Weird timing imo, unless they're testing how far they can go

I feel like Netflix is nearing its end, and they are extremely aware

Yes what a bunch of dolts paying for the services they use instead of mooching off of others.

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Netflix announced that starting today, users on its $9.99 per month Basic plan will now have to pay $11.99, and those paying $19.99 per month for Premium will have to pay $22.99

That's insane. The only way those price hikes could possibly be justified is if the majority of movie/show creators had their catalogues available on Netflix. But they don't because everyone and their mother wants their own fucking streaming service, ruining streaming for everyone.

No thanks. I got a library card and access to my entire county's book/audio-book/movie/show catalogue for free through Libby and Hoopla. As for everything else I can't find there... Yarr.

“As we deliver more value to our members, we occasionally ask them to pay a bit more,”

But you're not doing the first half, so you can't do the second half..

Adding 100 shows that no one is gonna watch is apparently "adding value". Incidentally, this new season of Love is Blind is fucking garbage. Very clearly scripted with actors.

Would you rather it be completely unscripted filmed with bums off the street?

Edit: didn't think the /s was needed folks

Now THAT'S already more interesting than 99% of the content on Netflix. Don't tease us like that!

Maybe not for that particular series, but hey, as long as the bums make scale, go for it! I might even watch it depending on what they come up with.

If I was actually paying for half of the streaming services I have, I would cancel them all. They are all shit. Maybe I'd keep Disney+ for my kids, but Netflix is a waste of money nowadays.

Bye bye Netflix. Onward to the high seas.

The only reason I keep it is because my son watches Number blocks and other educational videos there. But I did downgrade from 4K to HD and I’ll likely downgrade again at the next price hike.

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Piracy is always a service issue. It never went away, and it will never go away. Why should I spend the little money I have on a service that repeatedly jacks up prices, while also killing your favorite shows, or losing licences to stream other content?

Netflix, what are you trying to do? I can't cancel my subscription in protest if it's still cancelled from the last time you did something boneheaded.

Could always call and demand they cancel even harder.

Join, and cancel the next day.

I have herd you will get the money back and one month free.

While pretty useless it will show up in the churn metrics.

I've probably been subscribing to Netflix for a decade now, but this is the largest price increase they have ever done on the basic plan, and this is the first time I have seriously started to consider cancelling.

I need to go through my list and figure out what I really want to watch, and then just binge it. (I have never binge watched anything, but this is giving me an actual incentive to)

I canceled four years(?) ago and haven’t looked back. The quality to crap ratio of their originals was so high and the back catalog was evaporating. Everything I wanted I could get on DVDs at thrift shops and rip to my Plex library or watch on Hulu (which is provided free with my cell plan).

About to set up a Realdebrid account and get kodi running on my pc, brb

Anyone who complains about this: If you didn't cancel your acccount back when they cracked down on account sharing it's your own fault.

They saw that they made more profit this way and now they gonna keep squeezing as much as possible.

It's not too late tho but i doubt enough will jump the ship to make a change

Cue all the "that's it, I'm out" comments. Seems like no one actually ever leaves.

I cancelled all my streaming subscriptions last month. Netflix, Disney, HBO.

I'm a full time pirate now with iptv and I'm a member of a forum where you download from each others mega cloud.

With my 1Gbit connection it is fun to download again

I left. Only thing I have left is Hulu and I'm about to boot them too.

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For anyone looking to bail - get a nice VPN and sail the high seas instead! I use protonvpn for $120 per 2 years ($5 per month) they also have free servers you can try out but they're super slow. Another good one is mullvad for €5 per month (doesn't get cheaper with longer plans, but €5 a month isn't bad). Be wary of vpn reviews though because I know a lot are sponsored.

Protonvpn and mullvad are based in Switzerland and Sweden, respectively, and both countries have great privacy laws. Been using protonvpn for a while and haven't had any issues personally.

For getting into torrenting, I definitely recommend the arr suite (radarr for movies, sonarr for tv, some others for other uses) and qbittorrent for actual torrenting. Also very good idea to stick everything in docker containers, you can route them through a gluetun container that uses your VPN so even if you shut your VPN down systemwide those are still protected. The arr suite helps with managing what you get, getting better qualities, automatically getting new releases, etc.

Plex is great for viewing your content and such, can either do one time purchase or a subscription, $120 for lifetime which is the same as paying for 3 years of subscription I think? You can also use Kodi which is free and open source but imo more annoying to setup and has a worse layout.

There's plenty of guides online for setting things up, but make sure to never torrent without a vpn unless it's non-copyrighted

Obligatory Jellyfin > Plex recommendation and TRaSH-Guides plug

Jellyfin is a completely self-hosted Plex alternative that works really well. Plex has been around longer and thus has more dedicated apps, but Jellyfin can't ever disable your account or block the server you pay to run it on .

I've been using Jellyfin for over a year and have no complaints.

Any opinions on the morality of it? We only just got better agreements for writer profit sharing, so while previously we could say "it was never supporting the creators anyway", I'd argue that it's slightly more supportive of the industry than it used to be, especially if the actors' strike yields fruit.

We aren't obligated to pay for the service that is responsible for the writers lack of profits in the first place. We also shouldn't get used to renting everything online and not owning anything.

There's still virtually nothing going to the writers. If you want to support writers, you can send your favorite ones 10% of the amount you save and it will be 100x more than they would have made off you otherwise.

It's almost like streaming models aren't sustainable for anybody involved. ;)

They were when they didn't need to also make their own content before everyone and their mother became one.

Oh, you're still paying for Netflix? Well... sucks to be you!

Thanks for the heads up. I just cancelled my subscription. I had premium but $23 per month is ridiculous.

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I am nearly giddy at the thought of finally cancelling my subscription. It's been like 13-14 years for me I think.

I cancelled last year after watching Stranger Things. It was literally the only show I'd watched on Netflix in over two years. I'd been paying for a service I wasn't even using, and even though nobody was sharing a password for my account, the price hikes and sudden change of password policy were enough for me to stop paying them. Obviously I haven't missed it, since I wasn't watching it, but I may not have cancelled if not for the price going up each year.

About the same here, just canceled last night before I even knew about this. Got my vessel sea worthy within the last week so I decided it was time. Timing was perfect.

Mind sharing your setup, fellow pirate? I'm considering charting a course of my own. ;)

I'm not this person, but I'd suggest checking out yams.media. Extremely easy way to get plex/jelly/emby, all of the *arrs, and a VPN with very little setup. Also makes managing/updating them super easy.

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I think the issue is that Netflix always had a lot of debt and thought they could grow a lot more. They had a really solid income, then suddenly their catalog was shrinking thanks to the million other streaming services while they simultaneously started declining in subscriptions right when the cost of debt skyrocketed (even if some of their debt is still at lower rates).

Not that I'm cheering on the price increase by any means, nor am I currently a subscriber. Still though in some way I can see why they're doing it and have a feeling we're just at the tip of the iceberg in how bad tech corporate services are going to get for a bit.

On an unrelated note, VPNs and/or I2P are cool things to check out.

Edit: One thing too to bring up is that password sharing may still be a breeze. If you set up a VPN - not a commercial one but you setup yourseld on either on a VPS or on your home network - as long as anybody is on it they'll look like they're from the same household.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Netflix last raised its prices in March 2022, bringing the Premium plan to $19.99 and the Standard tier to $15.49.

The streamer stopped offering its $9.99 Basic ad-free plan to new and relapsed users in July, forcing them to fork out more to avoid ads.

“As we deliver more value to our members, we occasionally ask them to pay a bit more,” Netflix writes in its letter to shareholders.

Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal reported the streamer would raise the cost of its subscription a “few months” after the Hollywood actors strike ends, and now it’s happened even though the actors are still striking.

Last month, the Writers Guild of America ended their strike after reaching a deal with services like Netflix to provide streaming data, higher minimum pay, and better residuals.

Meanwhile, the service is also debuting its Squid Game reality show and Scott Pilgrim anime in November, while also adding Across the Spider-Verse later this month.

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Their content turned fairly bad. Witcher and Stranger Things were the only reasons to keep it. So why keep it?

Haven’t had it for a while. It was cool in the 00s, started to go bad in the 10s. Inertia can only take you so far.

Hell, even AppleTV free run had more decent content for 3 mos.

Why does anyone still give them their money

Because my parents pay for it and it still works in my and my brother's houses despite the no password sharing thing. We are still frequently using it in 5 different households and Netflix has yet to tell us we're being charged extra for doing so.

So glad to have escaped netflix. Shitty Corp got its model stolen by dozens of services and they deserve the abject failure they caused by alienating their customers.

Fuck you netflix, you're the comcast of streaming services.

balls lol

You're proud of this, but you missed out. There truly was a golden age where it was easier to pay $8 for streaming and everyone was happy. Good for you for being Nostradamus and everything, but there was a good ~8 years there where you really could have enjoyed the ride if you wanted.