Was that midterms? I know she doesn't get political, but I think she was just telling her fans to make sure they go out and vote. More voters scares certain political parties. That's my best guess anyway.
She endorsed Biden in 2020 and has spoken out about the end of Roe v Wade and the importance of abortion rights, so while she hasn't made it her personality her team is as clear as it can ever be for a billionaire.
team
This shit needs to die.
Not just more voters. More "wrong" voters. Like young, black, and young black voters.
Don't forget the most dangerous "minority" of all, WOMEN
clutches pearls They wouldn't dare! faints
A movement to repeal the 19th amendment is rumbling underground, and Amy Coney Barrett will lead the way*
…I’m joking, but am I? Am I really?
*just as Thomas will be the one to write the leading argument to overturn Loving v. Virginia
Loving v. Virginia
really ?
Ok
America... we need to talk. A court decision isn't a solid enough basis for any rights, you need an actual law get your council of Elders to do something
It's supposed to be, though. A SCOTUS ruling like that is supposed to be, and traditionally has been, a confirmation that the laws (all things considered) already say it. You don't need a new law, the interpreter/referee says the current laws already cover it.
The problems right now are a corrupt judiciary, and a government that does not represent nor even resemble the populace.
is supposed to be, and traditionally has been
corrupt judiciary, and a government that does not represent nor even resemble the populace
which is why I promote writing down everything into law
That's what I don't like about her. She's just in it for the money, and she's a vapid mo-fo with nothing much to say. Just like her detractors.
Has it really come to a point where public political discourse is some dumb fuck against some other dumb fuck?
Before you say it was always like that, think it over, because it is not true.
Edit: sigh... and the plebs just keep running the propaganda machine's errands by doing exactly what it tells them to.
Women's bodies are literally on the line here and you come with some misogynistic bullshit like that???
You need to take a long hard look at yourself there,sir.
I did, I took a 45 year hard look and I think you're a hammer seeing everything as nails. I hate what she represents, a media cabal pitting idiots against each other to distract from what is really going on. Not that she's a woman. Would you say I'm bigoted against deluded rednecks too?
Edit: crickets and downvotes. Seems there is no debating some people, they just "know" they're right.
I'm guessing you're not getting many replies because you're not forming a coherent argument.
Your first comment was against Taylor Swift expressing the view that her fans should go out and vote. Your second comment is against "what she represents" which you left undefined other than the media cabal which is a separate issue and outside of her control.
It's even more embarrassing, though. The full-time pundits and career politicians pitching a hissy fit right now aren't alt-right incels. Whining about Taylor Swift is a coordinated strategy.
It's not the most useful distinction when the full-time pundits and career politicians in question are taking their cues from the alt-right incels. Certainly still an embarrassment though. This is not how the GOP (re?)gains its credibility among the sane.
Their goal isn't to win credibility with the sane. It's genocide. They want to exterminate or enslave anyone who disagrees because they know they'll never win back credibility.
I don't think these media companies and personalities actually have any agenda beyond enriching themselves at this point
Think about the "demographics shifts" rhetoric. They're straight up saying "if we don't murder or criminalize a bunch of people, we have no future." The only path to continuing to enrich themselves is terrorism and mass murder. Like, I agree, if saving puppies was profitable they'd be doing that instead but it's not.
Their only agenda is enriching themselves. It's just that that agenda happens to coincidence with "kill everyone else or they'll stop us from taking all the money."
Thank you. Sometimes I miss. Now suggest an addon.
They should be courting her not bitching about her. If she said in concert that she would be verry disappointed in anyone that didn't vote x. It would be difficult to derail that swatch of engaged people.
What could they possibly offer to win her loyalty? We know where she stands on reproductive rights and while it may be a single issue, it’s an enormous single issue for a significant portion of the electorate.
More like if they can't make a good impression, the next best thing is to not talk smack about her at ever opportunity. don't poke the bull :)
Fair, seems like the common sense strat to take, but we know that they operate totally free and unencumbered from that
Taylor Swift dressed as Hulk Hogan: "listen up all my Swifty-maniacs, I want you to smash the Fash and punch Nazis, oh and PS: fuck MAGA to death!"
That's a whole new Era for her next tour.... :P
I didn't know that I need this, but I need this so much.
Oooohhh yeaaahhhhhh. Flexes In steroids
The onion is getring out of things to publish.
But yeah something that a couple of years appears to be insane now is a reality with the snowflake conservatives
Not really, fiction has always had to be believable while reality doesn’t
Also onions have long been part of cuisines around the world
Fiction too. Are you saying onions are fictitious?
In that I was referencing “eating the onion” where people think satire is real
I was just messing. :)
Fictitious and delicious.
The Overton window being incrementally pushed.
Mike Drucker
2018 was FIVE years ago?
Almost 6 my friend.
The best thing for the class war is internecine warfare among the upper class.
internecine
ˌɪntəˈniːsʌɪn
adjective
destructive to both sides in a conflict
This goes in my mind pocket!
Though I suppose this tactic works whichever class you belong to, and the upper one has the advantage right now by far.
* is there no way to get new line only on lemmy? It's either single line or dual line (all on one line or one on every second line)?
Lets see if the reddit markdown works and use multiple spaces
Ending with multiple spaces gives you single spaced text
Right, four spaces?
Thanks a bunch!
I just edited my first comment
two spaces appears to work
We are very happy for you.
is there no way to get new line only on lemmy? It's either single line or dual line (all on one line or one on every second line)?
Not afaik (on jeroba). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does double space at the end of the line not work?
TESTING
Double
Carriage
Return
Double
Spaces
Oh cool!!
Like this?
E: yeah that did it!! Thanks bitwaba!
Seems to be double line or no lines if you enter only one line spacing.
Hmm Merriam Webster and Cambridge seem to disagree about the American pronunciation. ˌin-tər-ˈne-ˌsēn vs ˌɪn.t̬ɚˈniː.sɪn. And Collins gives a third way wtf!
Remember the freaky guy who sued Swift for not performing one of his songs? That's what conservatives sound like lately about her.
I actually have never heard this before. Do you have more info? All I could find were claims that her songs infringed someone else's copyright (and thus, shouldn't be performed unless royalties are paid) or that she didn't have performance rights (which again, means they shouldn't be performed)
He's seriously 100% insane. He also sued Ariana Grande for discrimination against a disabled person, him, which was thrown out. His social media is a dumpster fire.
Why was she on the radar 5 years ago?
I think that's when she endorsed some Tennessee Dems.
Right? I never heard about her until last year.
Wait seriously, like not at all? If so I can only assume you live out of the US or literally under a rock if you do live in the US.
Sarcasm is dead.
Or I just don't know who you are or what your intent/context was over text on the Internet. Seeing as I'm not the only one a little confused/taken in by your sarcasm it might not have been the greatest punchline.
You've never heard of Taylor Swift until last year?
Do you know who Madonna or Michael Jackson are?
A couple years ago I had a similar reaction with folks saying that Drake (who at that point I had never heard of) was a bigger name than Taylor Swift. I laughed and googled his name only to find out that the claim was not as far fetched as I first imagined. I guess no name is truly universally known.
You had never heard of male ducks? They're famously rapey.
The people downvoting you either don't like your humor or are blind about the rapey bastards.
Apparently the 6'8, 260 lb future Hall of Fame professional footballer player she's dating is gay because.... she's over 30.
Also, she thinks things like women should have a choice over what happens to their bodies and that you should be allowed to use the name you like best so that's a problem too.
Totally sane and normal stuff.
And she told people to go vote and the right really didn't like that
Not even "vote Democrat," she just urged people to vote period. And linked to Vote.org encouraging people to research what would be on their ballot. The fact that the right takes this as an attack on them isn't surprising to anyone.
Funny thing is they're both the same age lul. Perfectly normal and reasonable for people to date people their own age. I guess the right just wants to date the cradle.
They just think women over 30 are worthless.
Right? There are so many layers to how twisted and bigoted that message is, it packs so much in it. People got paid very well for forging such fine propaganda, this is brand stuff, not some walmart quickfix. There's so many levels...
I think it's being funded by the Russians, but I am also really into completely unrealistic conspiracy theories, so ymmv.
Apparently the 6’8, 260 lb future Hall of Fame professional footballer player she’s dating is gay because… she’s over 30.
It is sickening that it has stooped to this level. Just comprehend the number of bigoted points of view expressed there. I could write an essay on that.
It's almost diabolical how refined it is, how much time they took with it. I have been following the development of right wing propaganda for over two decades, and I never fail to get stunned over how blatant it is, and how well engineered.
Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Then Manufacturing Consent is essential lore, but the hole goes deep. No other conspiracy theories needed- that is the conspiracy.
He's six foot eight? How tall is Swift? Jesus.
Maybe 6'5, but the guy's an absolute unit.
Swift could easily be 6'5" in the right heals.
With the Kansas City Chiefs headed to Super Bowl LVIII, influential MAGA Media personalities have started circulating conspiracy theories about the pop superstar, promoting the deranged notion that she is part of a sprawling psychological operations plot staged by the NFL and Democratic Party to deliver the 2024 presidential election to President Joe Biden.
Mr. Kelce’s advertisements promoting Pfizer’s Covid vaccine and Bud Light
speculation that Ms. Swift is after Mr. Kelce for his money.
My favourite quote mentioned in that article courtesy of Fox News
“It’s real. The Pentagon psy-op unit pitched NATO on turning Taylor Swift into an asset for combating misinformation online,” Watters said.
Because apparently we want misinformation?
Why the fuck would the billionaire Taylor Swift be after the millionaire Travis Kelce's money?
You say that like any other part of it makes sense
The others are conspiracy logic, basically "I don't know so I'm assuming X" but that last one just doesn't make any sense with known values of wealth.
You say that like any other part of it makes sense
You made me audibly ha ha laugh! :)
Wow.
That's the level their own psyops operate at these days? It's impressive in its stupidity and terrifying in its efficacy.
Michel Drucker ???
Ceo of Drucker Drucker and Drucker
It's a shame they are all so fucking vapid.
I agree with the good call. Can't say I'm as fascinated by her receiving more attention than half the NFL teams, tho
Why would you be fascinated by that? She's probably been more famous than all of the NFL combined for more than a decade. Why wouldn't she get more attention than them?
I don’t like professional sports or T Swift.
Gun to my head, I would pick T Swift.
This isn't even about preference, though. Most people would recognize Taylor Swift before they'd recognize any NFL players, even if they hate her music.
Unless that NFL player was also a famous murderer.
Which one?
I did a web search and OJ wasn't even on the first page. Amazing.
All fair points. Just adding my own comment to the previous one.
Blame that on the people who choose to have the cameras aimed at her, not TSwift herself
Was that midterms? I know she doesn't get political, but I think she was just telling her fans to make sure they go out and vote. More voters scares certain political parties. That's my best guess anyway.
She endorsed Biden in 2020 and has spoken out about the end of Roe v Wade and the importance of abortion rights, so while she hasn't made it her personality her team is as clear as it can ever be for a billionaire.
This shit needs to die.
Not just more voters. More "wrong" voters. Like young, black, and young black voters.
Don't forget the most dangerous "minority" of all, WOMEN
clutches pearls They wouldn't dare! faints
A movement to repeal the 19th amendment is rumbling underground, and Amy Coney Barrett will lead the way*
…I’m joking, but am I? Am I really?
*just as Thomas will be the one to write the leading argument to overturn Loving v. Virginia
really ? Ok America... we need to talk. A court decision isn't a solid enough basis for any rights, you need an actual law get your council of Elders to do something
It's supposed to be, though. A SCOTUS ruling like that is supposed to be, and traditionally has been, a confirmation that the laws (all things considered) already say it. You don't need a new law, the interpreter/referee says the current laws already cover it.
The problems right now are a corrupt judiciary, and a government that does not represent nor even resemble the populace.
That's what I don't like about her. She's just in it for the money, and she's a vapid mo-fo with nothing much to say. Just like her detractors.
Has it really come to a point where public political discourse is some dumb fuck against some other dumb fuck?
Before you say it was always like that, think it over, because it is not true.
Edit: sigh... and the plebs just keep running the propaganda machine's errands by doing exactly what it tells them to.
Women's bodies are literally on the line here and you come with some misogynistic bullshit like that???
You need to take a long hard look at yourself there,sir.
I did, I took a 45 year hard look and I think you're a hammer seeing everything as nails. I hate what she represents, a media cabal pitting idiots against each other to distract from what is really going on. Not that she's a woman. Would you say I'm bigoted against deluded rednecks too?
Edit: crickets and downvotes. Seems there is no debating some people, they just "know" they're right.
I'm guessing you're not getting many replies because you're not forming a coherent argument.
Your first comment was against Taylor Swift expressing the view that her fans should go out and vote. Your second comment is against "what she represents" which you left undefined other than the media cabal which is a separate issue and outside of her control.
It's even more embarrassing, though. The full-time pundits and career politicians pitching a hissy fit right now aren't alt-right incels. Whining about Taylor Swift is a coordinated strategy.
It's not the most useful distinction when the full-time pundits and career politicians in question are taking their cues from the alt-right incels. Certainly still an embarrassment though. This is not how the GOP (re?)gains its credibility among the sane.
Their goal isn't to win credibility with the sane. It's genocide. They want to exterminate or enslave anyone who disagrees because they know they'll never win back credibility.
I don't think these media companies and personalities actually have any agenda beyond enriching themselves at this point
Think about the "demographics shifts" rhetoric. They're straight up saying "if we don't murder or criminalize a bunch of people, we have no future." The only path to continuing to enrich themselves is terrorism and mass murder. Like, I agree, if saving puppies was profitable they'd be doing that instead but it's not.
Their only agenda is enriching themselves. It's just that that agenda happens to coincidence with "kill everyone else or they'll stop us from taking all the money."
This is extremely dangerous to democracy
Overton Window
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They should be courting her not bitching about her. If she said in concert that she would be verry disappointed in anyone that didn't vote x. It would be difficult to derail that swatch of engaged people.
What could they possibly offer to win her loyalty? We know where she stands on reproductive rights and while it may be a single issue, it’s an enormous single issue for a significant portion of the electorate.
More like if they can't make a good impression, the next best thing is to not talk smack about her at ever opportunity. don't poke the bull :)
Fair, seems like the common sense strat to take, but we know that they operate totally free and unencumbered from that
Taylor Swift dressed as Hulk Hogan: "listen up all my Swifty-maniacs, I want you to smash the Fash and punch Nazis, oh and PS: fuck MAGA to death!"
That's a whole new Era for her next tour.... :P
I didn't know that I need this, but I need this so much.
Oooohhh yeaaahhhhhh. Flexes In steroids
The onion is getring out of things to publish.
But yeah something that a couple of years appears to be insane now is a reality with the snowflake conservatives
Not really, fiction has always had to be believable while reality doesn’t
Also onions have long been part of cuisines around the world
Fiction too. Are you saying onions are fictitious?
In that I was referencing “eating the onion” where people think satire is real
I was just messing. :)
Fictitious and delicious.
The Overton window being incrementally pushed.
2018 was FIVE years ago?
Almost 6 my friend.
The best thing for the class war is internecine warfare among the upper class.
internecine
ˌɪntəˈniːsʌɪn
adjective
destructive to both sides in a conflict
This goes in my mind pocket!
Though I suppose this tactic works whichever class you belong to, and the upper one has the advantage right now by far.
* is there no way to get new line only on lemmy? It's either single line or dual line (all on one line or one on every second line)?
Lets see if the reddit markdown works and use multiple spaces
Ending with multiple spaces gives you single spaced text
Right, four spaces?
Thanks a bunch!
I just edited my first comment
two spaces appears to work
We are very happy for you.
Not afaik (on jeroba). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does double space at the end of the line not work?
TESTING
Double
Carriage
Return
Double
Spaces
Oh cool!!
Like this?
E: yeah that did it!! Thanks bitwaba!
Seems to be double line or no lines if you enter only one line spacing.
https://sffa.community/post/105
Hmm Merriam Webster and Cambridge seem to disagree about the American pronunciation. ˌin-tər-ˈne-ˌsēn vs ˌɪn.t̬ɚˈniː.sɪn. And Collins gives a third way wtf!
Remember the freaky guy who sued Swift for not performing one of his songs? That's what conservatives sound like lately about her.
I actually have never heard this before. Do you have more info? All I could find were claims that her songs infringed someone else's copyright (and thus, shouldn't be performed unless royalties are paid) or that she didn't have performance rights (which again, means they shouldn't be performed)
I do! https://www.fox13now.com/2016/12/08/judge-dismisses-utah-mans-lawsuit-against-taylor-swift
He's seriously 100% insane. He also sued Ariana Grande for discrimination against a disabled person, him, which was thrown out. His social media is a dumpster fire.
Why was she on the radar 5 years ago?
I think that's when she endorsed some Tennessee Dems.
Right? I never heard about her until last year.
Wait seriously, like not at all? If so I can only assume you live out of the US or literally under a rock if you do live in the US.
Sarcasm is dead.
Or I just don't know who you are or what your intent/context was over text on the Internet. Seeing as I'm not the only one a little confused/taken in by your sarcasm it might not have been the greatest punchline.
You've never heard of Taylor Swift until last year?
Do you know who Madonna or Michael Jackson are?
A couple years ago I had a similar reaction with folks saying that Drake (who at that point I had never heard of) was a bigger name than Taylor Swift. I laughed and googled his name only to find out that the claim was not as far fetched as I first imagined. I guess no name is truly universally known.
You had never heard of male ducks? They're famously rapey.
The people downvoting you either don't like your humor or are blind about the rapey bastards.
Or they were thinking about dragons
Sarcasm is dead.
Funny sarcasm is far from dead.
Huh, what did I miss?
Apparently the 6'8, 260 lb future Hall of Fame professional footballer player she's dating is gay because.... she's over 30.
Also, she thinks things like women should have a choice over what happens to their bodies and that you should be allowed to use the name you like best so that's a problem too.
Totally sane and normal stuff.
And she told people to go vote and the right really didn't like that
Not even "vote Democrat," she just urged people to vote period. And linked to Vote.org encouraging people to research what would be on their ballot. The fact that the right takes this as an attack on them isn't surprising to anyone.
Funny thing is they're both the same age lul. Perfectly normal and reasonable for people to date people their own age. I guess the right just wants to date the cradle.
They just think women over 30 are worthless.
Right? There are so many layers to how twisted and bigoted that message is, it packs so much in it. People got paid very well for forging such fine propaganda, this is brand stuff, not some walmart quickfix. There's so many levels...
I think it's being funded by the Russians, but I am also really into completely unrealistic conspiracy theories, so ymmv.
It is sickening that it has stooped to this level. Just comprehend the number of bigoted points of view expressed there. I could write an essay on that.
It's almost diabolical how refined it is, how much time they took with it. I have been following the development of right wing propaganda for over two decades, and I never fail to get stunned over how blatant it is, and how well engineered.
I would highly recommend to read "Banana Republicans": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/593702.Banana_Republicans
Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Then Manufacturing Consent is essential lore, but the hole goes deep. No other conspiracy theories needed- that is the conspiracy.
He's six foot eight? How tall is Swift? Jesus.
Maybe 6'5, but the guy's an absolute unit.
Swift could easily be 6'5" in the right heals.
Some say he’s gay https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1752422032187470011
I think you are caught up
Edit: Neat the Pentagon had to say it’s stupid
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/pentagon-to-maga-world-you-need-to-calm-down-over-taylor-swift-00139292
My favourite quote mentioned in that article courtesy of Fox News
Because apparently we want misinformation?
Why the fuck would the billionaire Taylor Swift be after the millionaire Travis Kelce's money?
You say that like any other part of it makes sense
The others are conspiracy logic, basically "I don't know so I'm assuming X" but that last one just doesn't make any sense with known values of wealth.
You made me audibly ha ha laugh! :)
Wow.
That's the level their own psyops operate at these days? It's impressive in its stupidity and terrifying in its efficacy.
Michel Drucker ???
Ceo of Drucker Drucker and Drucker
It's a shame they are all so fucking vapid.
I agree with the good call. Can't say I'm as fascinated by her receiving more attention than half the NFL teams, tho
Why would you be fascinated by that? She's probably been more famous than all of the NFL combined for more than a decade. Why wouldn't she get more attention than them?
I don’t like professional sports or T Swift.
Gun to my head, I would pick T Swift.
This isn't even about preference, though. Most people would recognize Taylor Swift before they'd recognize any NFL players, even if they hate her music.
Unless that NFL player was also a famous murderer.
Which one?
I did a web search and OJ wasn't even on the first page. Amazing.
All fair points. Just adding my own comment to the previous one.
Blame that on the people who choose to have the cameras aimed at her, not TSwift herself