‘My ultimate and absolute revenge’: Trump gives chilling CPAC speech on presidential agenda

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‘My ultimate and absolute revenge’: Trump gives chilling CPAC speech on presidential agenda
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Elvis Presley’s Suspicious Minds – was followed by the tinny sound of Justice for All, a rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner sung by defendants jailed over their alleged roles in the January 6, 2021, insurrection.

Their alleged roles?!?! YOU FUCKS goddammit Guardian what the motherfucking hell are you doing? They were convicted by a court of law there's no alleged about it!! FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

well that and they where on video that they took of the event! in case anyone wants to go with the oh the court is rigged or something. definately no alleged about it.

Who exactly does this schlocky shit appeal to? This is obvious theatre; it's scary how manipulable his base is.

They were convicted by a court of law there's no alleged about it!!

Ah yes, the US courtroom, the one infallible entity in this cruel world...

He added: “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

He comes up with the weirdest shit.

What languages nobody has ever heard of? Spanish? Mandarin? German?

It's from the underground country of Hipsterkistan. You've probably never heard of it.

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We have ____ coming into our country … they have _____ that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

It's ad libs at this point.

Does he mean like when English came into this country and nobody had ever heard of it?

I’ve heard of talking backwards in code to the beat of a babies heart. And then sucking the last drop of adrenochrome from the teet, sinking teeth to eat, ketchup, the walls! The walllls

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Among the great tragedies of our time is the fact that this slimy rapist dirtbag conman isn't already yesterday's news. Fade the fuck away, Donald.

The American right are beyond pathetic that this whining fat orange bitch is the best they've been able to come up with for 3 consecutive election cycles. At best he's a distraction from the shit our country needs to do and at worst he's a danger to the entire world, us included. Demented dotard belongs in jail and nowhere near the levers of power.

He's not a danger himself. He's not in the shape for anything but hospice.

This is elder abuse and I feel terrified at the thought of anybody being in his skin.

Pretty sure Trump doesnt deserve that level of empathy

i feel like i tend to have a decently high level ability to understand and empathize with people, but i just can't summon it for that man.

i'm sorry he was abused, but at some point, a person can just be a worthless pos.

At some point after that he may no longer be coherent enough.

There's the quiet part that gets said out loud.
then there's the part that they think, loudly.
Then there's the parts that are so awful, they even think them quietly.  
 
 
I'm convinced CPAC is the last part, there.

Die, traitor. Die a traitor's death. Suck the fucking hog of justice and choke to death on it.

Those quotes sound way too coherent to be coming from Trump....

How does he manage to say the most Fascist shit so clearly but then everything else is just mumbled incoherent garbage?

It's written by Steven Miller, Bannon, and the like

But yea, he's good at saying the fascist shit. Rolls right off his grotesque tongue and out his putrid KFC-hole

Because someone else wrote it.

Trump is a moron and can barely string a sentence together when he is winging it. When he has a prompt and someone he owes money to tells him what to say, he is as eloquent as he can be.

I feel like the only one who sees through the bullshit. I feel like I'm the only one who has realized that trump isn't a smart person nor good at speaking unless he has a script to follow that he can't diverge from because as soon as he does the crazy cat lady is on display.

I feel like the only one who sees through the bullshit. I feel like I'm the only one who has realized that trump isn't a smart person nor good at speaking unless he has a script to follow that he can't diverge from because as soon as he does the crazy cat lady is on display.

Yes, yes...you very special and unique little unicorn.

You're the only one.

From what I see here and previously on reddit and when I was sort of (but not really) active on fb. I definitely feel like that or at the least I'm one of only a few willing to call out insanity and try to educate others so we all have a better future.

If more people like us would step up and be more active online and off, we may have been able to avoid the whole trump in office bit to begin with. I know that most us are not spotlight friendly and would rather just be left alone but we can't live like that for the foreseeable future. Not until enough of the maggats and their leaders are in jail or barred from politics for life.

I was telling everyone I knew about trump when he first ran this time around. Even in my circles I'm an exception who knew what trump was and has known for 30+ years.

The article explains that he used a teleprompter for this speech and broke away from it a few times to ramble incoherently.

I'm genuinely creeped out that someone saying these things can have so much support. Honestly I just want to go home and hide under the bed. A year ago when people said things about Trump like "authoritarian" and "fascist" and whatever else it was kinda true but also some hyperbole. Now it's just plain true.

It was never hyperbole. Remember when he tried to overthrow democracy? Sorry, but you're just coming to acceptance. This isn't new. Ask historians.

Exactly. Anyone saying Trump criticism was just hyped up bullshit is a straight moron, or completely in denial. Sure, he's just saying it plainly now, but it was really fucking obvious previously.

Same as his cultists who can't face reality. They didn't take him seriously and they don't want to admit they were duped. (Yes, that's an intentionally vague "they" because it applies to both sides)

You should see how they talk when they think they're in their echo chambers. Hell, they just do it in the open now.

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but that title is misleading:

the unprecedented success of the United States of America will be my ultimate and absolute revenge.”

Sure, but that "success" are coming after his "day 1 dictator" comments-- just a few short dots to connect and come up with the original title here.

Sure, but then quote the actual problematic comments, don't purposely mislead with the one thing he said that wasn't problematic. That just gives fuel to their persecution complex.

Right, but every new article seems to treat him with a blank slate. You could write a completely unbiased true article saying "Convicted rapist who wants to be dictator 'for day one' of his presidency says that he'll use the 'success of the US' as his ultimate revenge."

The news fucking kowtows to this fascist's feelings far too much IMO. Seems biased in the opposite direction, just so they can maintain a "neutral" tone.

edit: of course all news has bias, I meant truth instead

This man says so many things daily that shows he is unfit, and the best defense we have against him is Biden. It is going to be a rough ride.

Biden beat him the first time. Was that not good enough?

Trump still had a chance, and Biden is less popular than he was in 2020, I personally doubt Biden will win.

I’m afraid of it but I agree with you because “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity” so it’s very much possible for the orange leader to occupy the White House again, and possibly for the rest of his days.

Is his campaign manager Vince McMahon?

Could be, they do know each other. Even worked together.

Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

His venues have hosted Wrestlemanias, and he and Vince had a hair vs hair feud that culminated in a Wrestlemania match - Trump won.

No idea why this isn't brought up more - the WWF in the late 90s was incredibly vulgar, racist, and sexist. And Trump intentionally associated with it. Why is that never discussed?

Because the kind of loser that liked WWE is the kind of person that is terminally online on the even nerdier version of Reddit.

Right, which makes Trump look like a giant fucking loser for working repeatedly with WWE since the 80s.

Which is why the Dems/Nikki Haley/Jeb should have brought it up repeatedly

Sure sounds like Trump is a big threat. I may not know much but it seems like cutting off arms supply to Israel would be a bargain if it means this guy doesn't get elected again. I'm sure some moderate will come in and educate me on why they should get to have their cake and eat it too.

Stop equivocating. There's no tomorrow after this. Short sighted. I'm starting to despise people like you as we get closer to the election. And before you try to debate me, THIS POST IS A FORUM ABOUT THE THREAT OF A TRUMP VICTORY. No response of yours refutes the fact you're steering the conversation. You're working toward a Trump victory no matter what you claim your motivation for your comment.

I'm not equivocating. I'm saying if the situation is this dire then surely cutting off arms supply to Israel is a fucking bargain isn't it?

It's time to compromise with leftists and progressives. If you won't do it now when "there's no tomorrow after this" then you never will. Make a choice.

So leftists hold democracy hostage and threaten Trump if they don't get what they want? No. Shut the fuck up. Fucking troll.

Are leftists a minor wing that's too small to be compromised with? Because if so it's impossible for us to hold democracy hostage. Moderates are the majority voting bloc. They bear the lions share of the responsibility for any outcome. They elected Joe Biden in the primaries, they're responsible for how he does in the general elections.

compromise with leftists….

ROFL..

As a rule, no one should compromise with those that will not compromise. You end up giving away everything and getting nothing. Which is pretty much what it’s like when dealing with the entitled.

Seriously. Purported progressives acting like domestic terrorists thinking they're better than hippie anti vaxer moms showing up at the same rallies as nazis. I'm a fucking actual progressive. That's why I'm compromising with Biden to keep us on oxygen. I can't stand these fucking imbeciles..

Sounds like you'd rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists.

As a rule, no one should compromise with those that will not compromise.

Are you under the impression Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of progressives and leftists?

Go away.

So you are aware progressives and leftists compromised and voted for Biden in the 2020 general election.

Surely that means it's time for moderates and Biden to compromise yes?

Go away.

Nah don't end the conversation now buddy. Democracy is about compromise right? I gave you an example of leftists and progressives compromising now surely these moderates compromised somewhere right? It's not like the majority voting bloc would be so selfish and stupid as to risk losing democracy rather than give up anything? Right? Right?

I think Biden makes compromises. That's the leftists argument against him. But here he's probably weighing the cost of pissing off a Jewish block of support and leftists.

I also doubt it's much of a choice. The leftist won't support him regardless because he's not bernie sanders.

Shut the fuck up about the Jews. Every American Jew I know hates what's happening in Gaza and wants it to stop now. You're talking to one. Stop reading fucking headlines. You sound like a right winger. Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers?

“Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers? “

Pretty sure there’s an OF niche market for that.

You think Joe Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of leftists and progressives?

This would be the progressive dream. Not arming Israel and Trump losing is having my cake and eating it too. It'd be a dream come true.

People need to start hounding moderates that it's their turn to compromise. They've dominated the party for so long they think they can just elect whoever they want in the primaries, refuse to compromise and blame somebody else.

I may not know much…

You nailed it right there.

Surely you can set me straight with a lecture about compromise or something.

Not going to bother. You’re not worth the time.

Sounds like you think Biden can win the 2024 general election without our votes then. Good luck.

he won without my vote in 2020. Jill Stein says the greens could hit 5% this year.

Was this you?

I'm not voting for Biden again. I'll be voting 3rd party or write in

You already don’t matter. So I’m not really concerned with what you think.

Actually it's you who doesn't matter. You'll vote for Biden regardless of what he does. I will only vote for Biden again if he cuts off arms for Israel and promises to veto any attempts to block the rail strike in his next term.

k. Go away now.

I'm not going anywhere. I'll be repeating this over and over right up until election day. So if Biden loses and you all are like "oh my God this is awful how could this have been avoided" there's gonna be a pile of evidence showing how it could have been avoided and thousands of responses just like yours rejecting it.

You would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives.

You would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives

The projection is strong in this one. You are literally saying you would rather have Trump win than compromise and vote for Biden.

I get it, Biden isn't the best choice. When the alternative is literal fascism the voters need to shut that down hard. Make the Republicans lose like they've never lost before to show it won't be tolerated. That will force them to run somewhat reasonable candidates in the future, which forces the Democrats to have to actually try.

A marginal Biden win doesn't teach Republicans anything and they keep running wannabe Dictators, letting the Democrats continue to not have to put any effort in other than saying "It's us or Dictators."

A Trump win means there won't be another election.

The projection is strong in this one. You are literally saying you would rather have Trump win than compromise and vote for Biden.

That's a matter of perspective. You want me to believe the only choice is between Biden and Trump. I'm telling you the only choice is between compromising with progressives and leftists or losing to fascists. You don't have to agree with me. But if you think I'm being sincere then you've got a decision to make.

I get it, Biden isn’t the best choice. When the alternative is literal fascism the voters need to shut that down hard.

So you're acknowledging moderates made a bad choice in the 2020 primaries? Which is especially selfish and foolish considering literal fascism is at stake? Where are your lectures for moderate voters? Have you lectured anyone who voted for Biden in the primaries?

Moderates continue to get a free pass to make selfish decisions in the primaries. Leftists and progressives compromised and showed up in the 2020 general election. Now it's time for the moderates and Biden to make some policy compromises.

I saw it myself on televised cameras. There was nothing "alleged" about the disgusting and utterly degrading assault of America than happened on January 6th, conducted by the lowest forms of vermin on earth. I saw it myself - it did happen.

And furthermore, any human being who casts a vote for an excremental piece of criminal vermin like trump should be considered dangerously ill and NEEDS to be stripped of their American citizenship and their voting privileges. Society cannot afford to have sick cretins running around loose. Lock them up, or at least build gas chambers to get rid of them all for good so we can move on from this horror.

I'm frustrated too, but this is the rhetoric of the people you're railing against. Please take a moment and regroup.

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This is very antidemocratic of you. It's treating the symptoms and not the root cause. While I agree that trump and his supporters are vile, we should not advocate for removal of citizenship or voting rights of anyone.

Trump exists because of a flawed system, not flawed individuals. We need to fix the system or will continue to get Trump after Trump

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