World view carefully constructed by news media designed to demonize other political parties and minorities, thereby ensuring tribalism and Nationalism continue to plague our nation ✅️
Yall better not sit this election out. 'Cause Captain 'Merica sure isnt.
They actually tend not to vote when it actually comes down to it. Trump was actually a bit of an exception because he was viewed almost fanatically.
If students ever actually bothered, the left would probably win pretty much all of the time. And this is a problem in many countries, not just the United States.
The right will always prioritize the old population (aka direct their propaganda mostly at them) because they know, for whatever reason, younger people don't vote.
What do you mean, exactly? That Trump will be going to prison or face some other justice that he'll actually notice? Based on everything we've experienced so far, he's going to slide through this thing like a greased pig and twice as ugly.
So many replies telling people not to vote.
He added: "This is what many on the left will do, they'll take a clip of that and they will run with it and, all of a sudden, the statement that is that you want to 'kill everybody' or whatever. We all know that's not what you meant to get across."
Fuck these gaslighting pieces of shit
That's all the man said! He gave a list of people, and then said he wanted to kill them. It's not like he was giving a review of the Barbie movie and anecdotally said that sometimes he has dark thoughts. He said he wants to kill anyone who doesn't support Trump.
"How dare the left use things that the right says and does against them! Doesn't the left know that they are supposed to only say flattering things about the right as they sit and get bulldozed? The nerve of the left pointing out the things we are actually saying and doing!"
This is literally what that douchenozzle did on stage a few years ago. I'm forgetting who it was but he said "the only good Democrat is a dead one" and then immediately had to backpedal saying "I mean politically dead, you know they'll take that out of context."
Sorry fucko but the audience cheered like crazy to your bullshit BEFORE you backpedaled.
Off-topic but how would you quote text like this? I'm using Voyager
It should just use markdown, so a right chevron (>) at the beginning of a new line. Like this.
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Oh I never knew ">" had a name!
And thanks man
how would you quote...
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Just put a ">" in front of the quote
That's super cool! Thanks
And they wonder why we think they're lunatics.
Think? Most of them are lunatics and some even worse.
While still certainly a greater percentage than you see with dems, I'd say most you hear about are lunatics. I (unfortunately) live in Trump country and I'd be quicker to say that most-to-all are simply really, really gullible and not very smart.
It's really unfortunate, but republicanism has become so ingrained into rural culture from a history of being neglected by mainstream politics that there's basically no way for them to feel like some city liberal is actually representing their interests, because they have no idea what to actually look for policy-wise, so they simply latch onto presented relatability. And they're really, really suceptible to conmen like trump who have a lot of hollow words and no actions to back it up.
Oh, and then you have those rich businessmen who just vote/lobby republican by default because they're historically more "business friendly"
I'd like to add a word to this and that word is "Branding" there's probably better words.
Trump in the Republicans are Masters at branding, every nuance discussion a Democrat wants to have, these Republicans have a three-word phrase designed to create Boogeyman.
Stop the steel, groomers, lock her up, build a wall, taxation is theft, and so many more.
I don't think they're lunatics, I know they are. It's plainly observable.
Ask a democrat what they want and they say affordable healthcare, housing, education, social mobility, better work hours and wages; you know, better quality of life in general.
Ask a republican what they want and they'll say 'hurkdydurk I'm 'onna kill me some lib'rals durrr' like this guy. I literally think he may have drooled on himself while slurring that sentence out.
If someone tells you they want to kill you, believe them.
Since this kind of rhetoric always leads to violence, please stay safe out there, and don't be hesitant to report harassment.
Just spins for me and doesn’t play video. Cool concept though, I hope it takes off.
Have that happen quite a bit. Just refresh the page a few times usually fixes it.
Took a nap and your comment was there when I woke up. Clicked it again and it worked immediately. Perhaps it was a server hug.
The way I understand is... The website uses different servers/instances to do its thing. Some work better than others. Refreshing the page usually changes the instance in use. I could be wrong though.
Ah, the "globalists".
I need not watch past that, because now I know he's on the side of Captain Inbred.
"Did I say Globalists? I meant Jews."
You should, because it gets worse. Much, much worse.
RSBN host Brian Glenn then offered support to Alvarez and said the clip would be viewed out of context by those on the left.
Don't think he knows what that means.
Viewed without the previous context of 2000 hours of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson.
He tried to say he didn't hear that because it was loud outside. All the people I can see are smiling but not talking. Blatant lie.
Sounds like the guy said, “Joe mall” and buddy was like, “uhhh k yeah I agree”
Yeah because, as we all know, “I agree” is the only response to “Joe mall”
gtfo honestly
What? You’ve never been there where you can’t hear somebody say something and you’re like, “oh yeah for sure” because you need to move on.
Seriously, listen to the guy. He sounds like talking with no teeth and a mouth full of marbles.
I don’t know who this guy is, but his biggest faux pas here is saying, “I agree,” instead of “ok,” or something else.
Edit: oh never mind, after watching again this guy was asking leading questions. He’s a shit journalist.
Anyway, fuck this guy, but not for that part. I honestly believe he didn’t understand what ol’ Fatface Marblemouth there was saying because I didn’t either even while not having to deal with all the background noise.
Edit 2: The downvotes tell me that tribalism is alive and well on the left. There’s plenty of things to criticize republicans on, why waste your time and energy getting mad about this? By showing you’re opponents zero understanding as human beings you’re also showing that you’ve fallen for the diversionary tactics used by those to keep us fighting amongst each other.
If he only said it the first time, I’d agree with you that it’s possible. But he said it, and then said it again more clearly. I’m sorry, but you can’t chalk this up to “he didn’t understand/hear.” If it were really loud there, even, and he said it twice, maybe you’d have a point. But it was not very loud where they were standing.
Not to mention, he had the context of the conversation they were having. He was trying to goad them into spouting their rhetoric. There’s no way, given the context, the volume of the area, the fact that he said it twice…I’m sorry, you can’t buy his bullshit back peddling.
I think exactly what they’d hope would happen has happened: create a controversy to become the new OAN. I, for sure, had never heard of “far right news” or whatever the fuck the name of that “network” was.
Yeah I get what you’re saying, but just yesterday at work I asked a guy to repeat himself and I did the whole “ok yeah gotcha” thing when I didn’t understand what he said even the second time. It happens.
I’m not saying this guy isn’t a piece of shit, I’m just saying this incident isn’t the one to nail him on. The whole, “the globalists? The lefties?” or whatever the exact quote was is much more egregious in my opinion. A reporter shouldn’t be influencing people’s opinions.
I agree with you about the context. I can tell this guy is part of the problem in America, I’m just not going to condemn him for something I did just yesterday. 🤷🏻♂️
Come on, you can’t be that naive. Yes, misunderstandings happen. But what are the chances that this reporter had a misunderstanding exactly when it was most politically expedient for him?
There is this weird thing people do in modern politics, where the people that have the same political beliefs they do can just never be wrong. People have their team, and everything that comes out of anyone with the same color shirt on or the right letter next to their name is suddenly defensible, no matter how obviously silly or ridiculous.
Like communists will defend every single massacre perpetrated under the banner of communism. It’s absolutely insane. Just admit that people who you agree with can do/say things that are just wrong. It’s not that hard. And it doesn’t make your convictions less your convictions.
I’ve been explaining myself all day about a joke I made at the expense of the moron who can’t speak correctly. I don’t care what you have to say. I’m sure it’s already been addressed in other comments.
Lol that was either the most layered, mundane, self-pleasing joke ever made in the history of humanity or…you’re just lying
Like yeah. Maybe it was a lame joke. I thought it was funny that their typical Trump supporter interviewee could be so ignorant and impossible to understand. Obviously he didn’t say “Joe Mall,” but that’s what I heard the first time and I was sharing that because I thought others would find it amusing. I was immediately accused of being a racist and told to gtfo.
I’m now wondering if this whole ordeal is a psyop to make leftists look bad. I’m that blown away by the lack of understanding from this community.
I learned some things here though. I learned that I shouldn’t have bothered to try to explain myself. The people in this community are desperate to find an enemy and I performed wrongthink. I was hoping that kind of garbage was left behind at reddit.
Just go away. I’m not the one who should be ashamed here. If this continues I’ll block this whole community because what the fuck?
The downvotes tell me that tribalism is alive and well on the left.
Dude said he wants to kill everyone that isn't a trump supporter and you're crying about tribalism on the left because of downvotes? Fucking seriously?
Haven't you heard? Clicking a down arrow on the internet is literally the exact same thing as making a death threat. Both sides are equally bad!
No, Marblemouth said that. The guy’s a bad reporter and a reporter should never say, “I agree,” but rushing to condemn him over that is just as tribalistic as supporting him because he’s a, “right wing reporter.” (A thing that shouldn’t exist)
If you really want to get him fired I’m sure he’s done way worse shit than not hear somebody.
Anyway, I’ve already called talking about this a waste of energy yet here I am still talking about it, so I’m done. See ya.
but rushing to condemn him over that is just as tribalistic as supporting him
lmfao Ah, the fabled "both sides" of saying you want to murder political rivals. Incredible to see you here saying it so loudly and proudly.
Haranguing me over saying “I dunno, it was loud and the guy can’t speak clearly. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he said and was moving on, like we’ve all done.”
Funny how people are completely ignoring the parts of my comments where I agree this guy sucks for other reasons, which are on display in the same video.
Tribalism. The tribe has decided that I’m the enemy even though I am firmly on the side of anti-fascists, but you still have to be able to think for yourself, man. You’ve fallen for the divisionary tactics they use to make us fight each other.
I didn't ignore that part, I just find it quite interesting that even after going back and fixing your post with follow up comments, you doubled down with this.
Is it not a loud event? Does the moron that actually said “Kill ‘em All” - or “Joe Mall” as I heard it myself - make sense to you? I had to listen to it twice to hear “Kill ‘em All.” Maybe I need to get my hearing checked?
I was defending the reporter, but then I watched it again and was like, “oh, that part where he leads the guy on is the actual shitty thing he did that he wouldn’t be able to refute. It really doesn’t matter whether he agrees or not because I know he’s a piece of shit for that.”
Like, string the guy up for the thing he actually did, not the thing with plausible deniability because it’s not going to go anywhere.
Made pretty clear sense to me, yep. Because this isn't a new revelation, and it's not the first time we've heard this. Also, Joe Mall? Alrighty. You either haven't watched the actual video, or you're a terrible liar.
Go ahead and tell me how the reporter for RIGHT SIDE BROADCASTING NETWORK didn't hear this dude properly? How he didn't egg this yahoo on by saying the leftists, globalists, RINOs. Dude. You're defending a reporter that told a rally attendee that he agreed with "kill 'em all". You're really going to die on this hill and blame US for downvoting you? lmfao
Again, the ever elusive "two sides" of calling for death to political opponents is on display here and you're not even ashamed of it. Incredible.
Nope, that’s the video. Like seriously. That guy is fucking unintelligible. Am I taking crazy pills here?
Like I’m Canadian dude, I don’t even have a say over there, but if it means anything to you for context, I’m an NDP voter here.
And yeah yeah I get it. He’s a real piece of shit. I’ve never heard of this organization.
Tell me you’ve never misheard someone in a loud environment and just nodded and moved on. I won’t believe you. I’m not saying he does or doesn’t agree, I’m just saying it’s a good enough argument for them and you’re not going to get anywhere with that.
I said he was egging him on by saying that and that’s the real thing to be upset about. Is there a typo in one of my previous comments I should fix?
Overemphasizing the importance of the thing with plausible deniability while ignoring the undeniable fact that he’s biased as fuck - which are both on display in that video - will not change anyone’s mind. Making me the bad guy for suggesting we shift focus to that just allows them to keep doin it.
I was just making a stoned joke about the moron’s inability to speak clearly and now I’m a Nazi. I’m having a great day thanks for asking. How’s yours?
I was simply pointing out the absurdity of you crying about leftist tribalism because of downvotes on a video of a guy literally saying he wants to kill all non Trump supporters.
And I was talking about how it’s not unreasonable to believe that the reporter couldn’t hear Marblemouth in a loud environment and wasn’t aware of what he was saying “I agree” too.
Marblemouth can go fuck himself and if that’s what you’re bitching at me about then at least be on the same page.
And you know what? Marblemouth votes. Do you?
Ok, let's get on the same page:
Dipshit in the video: I want to kill all Biden voters.
You: Tribalism on the left is the real problem because I've been downvoted on an anonymous Internet forum.
Do you see the irony in your statement?
I've voted in every major election since I was 18; thanks for asking.
You made it to all the part where I said that without reading the rest of the comment?
I don’t know what to tell you, man.
This is a prime example of how these diversionary tactics work. I’m on your side, but I think this particular incident isn’t worth our time.
People here are looking for a fight. I originally just said, “Sounds like he said ‘Joe Mall’” and I was told to gtfo and then further harangued for explaining myself.
And it does sound like that. The guy can’t fucking talk, but the people he supports are stripping us of our rights because their propaganda has worked on him.
Now you’ve wasted both our time arguing with me about it instead of doing something productive and they’ve won.
He has an earpiece in, he can hear what’s being said into the microphone. He agreed because he was pandering.
Bro you can’t even admit that this dude meant what he said because he’s right wing and you’re whining about tribalism
I mean, he could be lying. I’m just saying it’s not unbelievable that he didn’t understand what he was “agreeing” too because it’s loud and the moron he’s talking to can barely speak.
I don’t fucking care if he meant it or not. Everyone’s right that he’s a shit journalist. My point is that you could get on his case about the other obvious propaganda tactics in the video instead of the one that will never gain traction and I can’t believe that me making fun of old Marblemouth there led to me being called a Nazi in the comments. 🙄🙄🙄
Everyone here is so eager for a fight? Put your money where your mouth is, go find him, punch him in the mouth and leave me alone. I’ll pitch five bucks for your flight.
This is all a lot less funny when you put into context that nearly all domestic terrorism in the US is from right wingers. These people listen when others say to be violent.
I agree with that 100%
Like Christ, I started this conversation by making fun of the asshole that actually said it and I guess it wasn’t funny enough because I was instantly told to gtfo.
Then I’m like “meh, it was loud. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he was saying.” and now I’m a Nazi. 🙄
I agree the reporter sucks, marblemouth sucks, Nazis suck, but holy shit people need to calm down.
Why are Nazis and people concern trolling for Nazis allowed on this server? Doesn't lemm.ee have rules against that sort of thing?
Way to play right in to the real Nazis hands, bud.
Nope, that's not going to work on me. I used to be a centrist, I know the game and I am not going to be taken in by you pretending to be an impassive third party when im reality, you support and defend a hate group that wants to kill anyone different from them.
Cool man. Tell me what I think. That’s really productive.
Gladly:
You're in here because you have befriended a bunch of right wingers, probably on their Discord even though they were banned from the platform years ago. You heard the rumors of how hateful and bigoted they are, but when you went to see what all the hullabaloo was all about, they were actually welcoming to you. Chill..Perhaps even kind. And their opposition to the lockdowns made sense, so you shacked up with them politically.
Cut to you seeing leftfam frothing at the mouth over blatant death threats you've become conditioned to automatically dismiss as overblown, because you know these people, and they wouldn't hurt you (snrrk), so a Trump supporter saying live on TV "kill 'em all" and a reporter agreeing with him must not be just that. It has to be a miscommunication, or the reporter didn't hear even though the guy said it twice, or any number of dumbass excuses you've already conjured up to protect your "friends".
Wake the fuck up, dumbass: the right wing are NOT your friends, they are not reasonable or principled or have your best interests at heart. They are petty, vindictive, immature and champing at the bit to get back at the left for the lockdowns, and that's why they are openly aggressive now. You are not "one of the good ones". They are not going to spare you either.
They want to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them or lives the way they want you to. They overturned Roe vs. Wade which has already killed and maimed people. Ron Desantis is putting out campaign ads bragging about the anti-LGBTQ laws he got passed in Florida, with fucking soldiers goose-stepping toward Nazi symbols. And now this.
They are openly saying they want to kill anyone who is different from them, and you are defending them.
You are a despicable piece of shit.
From the quick scan of it I can tell you’ve made many incorrect assumptions about me and my life. Like waaaaaaaay the fuck off base and ended it by calling me a piece of shit, but I don’t need to explain myself to you so fuck off, pal.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is what a centrist really looks like ^^
And below, you can see what a centrist blatantly lying to your face looks like:
Nah, I’m actually really left leaning, I just don’t have my head my ass about it.
If US society continues to devolve and these people actually attempt to make good on these threats, don’t expect the police to save you. Just saying.
Tom Morello got one thing wrong; it's now more like all of those that work forces.
Why do you think the guitarist wrote the lyrics?
Because I don't do research to back up my throw away jokes. This isn't Reddit, don't be insufferable.
If that happens, it won't go down the way you or anyone else expects it to. Just saying.
These dang leftists just aren’t gonna understand the context of agreeing that some people should be murdered! It’s just what cancel culture breeds!
I can’t help but think if these people were brown or wore turbans they’d all be in jail by now.
s/backpedals/agrees wholeheartedly then backpedals later/
It's too early for Perl!
That's sed's syntax, no?
Por que no los dos?
It'd work in Vim too, at least after being given a range. :% s/needle/replacement/
Trump voters today, mass murderers tomorrow.
Tomorrow? What about all those mass shootings. These people have been encouraging each other in their various echo chambers to commit violence for over a decade now. Just look at the online cesspool known as 4chan.
You don't need to look at a shitty image board, you can load up Fox News, One America, The Babylon Bee, shit you can just load up Twitter and get plugged right in to your very own right wing grifter telling you what to be mad about and who you want to kill.
It's your very own Two Minutes Hate delivered by your choice of bland talking head.
I posted this story a few weeks ago, but it's relevant here, too. A few weeks ago, I was sitting with two members of a club I'm in. One, retired military, noted that some US bases in Turkey are restricting access to retired military members, and he expressed concern that the same policy would spread to bases in the US, essentially removing a benefit that they were promised upon retirement. Okay, I see his concern, and he mentioned no reason for the change in rule (also, I just read an article about it, and no specific reason is given).
The other guy: "It's those damn woke assholes. They ruin everything!"
So, basically, the right wing media tells the second guy to jump, and he doesn't even wait to ask how high. There's no conscious thought - we're hating woke people today, so that's who must be behind this change. It used to be black people, then it was gay people, now it's woke and trans people...they don't notice how they're being strung along.
It's insane. And scary as shit. The first guy was like, "Well, I don't know about that..." and moved on to something else.
It'll be regularly scheduled pogromming
Imagine being so indoctrinated with a political party that that's your stance. The party's meant to be your bitch, not the other way around
There are people who claim to be feminists on Twitter calling for genocide against men daily.
Sadly people fall prey to rather ridiculous ideologies including, it seems, this moron at the Trump rally.
He literally said that he agreed with the guy twice while being recorded.
Traitors
The Republican Party is truly turning into the party of the uneducated.
Uneducated, violent, and fascist
Our best hope is that republican voter suppression initiatives backfire because the average republican is a blithering idiot
Unfortunately these things are usually targeted, they know the demographics of the areas they choose to implement voter suppression tactics like what they did in Texas.
In other places too they can have 2 rules that seem innocent enough, but combined you see where it's going. Rule 1: no more than x number of ballot collection areas (some number too small to handle local capacity of ballots) Rule 2: ballots not counted by some time are illegitimate and/or allow the state government to step in and declare an "irregularity" which then plays off of New Law™ that states the state government gets to decide what happens to elections when an "irregularity" is discovered. These again are only implemented in places that have high Democrat enrollment or are majority black/POC neighborhoods.
They know what they're doing :(
Why am I not surprised that the person that was interviewed didn't seem to have any teeth...
Today wasn’t his turn with the family set of teeth.
These rallies have gotten out of control.
They just traded the white hoods for red hats.
Maybe Fox news public and Fentanyl addicts have more in common than I tought but for a moment was like watching a documentary about the opioid crysis.
How can anyone be on the side of the right and walk amongst those who, on average, more actively preach and wish for the deaths of people. Alvarez is serving up a BS pie. He may not have said it, but he can’t pretend he doesn’t know it’s a current sentiment in their stream. He uses Truth Social actively. They are the deluded ones.
It’s 2023. Stop being murderous, racist, and generally bigoted people. Let people and women make their own decisions. And quit efing overreaching, especially into families.
Let people and women make their own decisions
I know you likely didn't intend this and I agree with your post but women are generally considered to be people, too 😂
Yes, thank you for not jumping at me for this, I was just trying to be more inclusive rather than exclusive that all people should be able to make their decisions, not just especially female bodied. Apologies at my awkwardness!! Glad it produced a healthy sense of humor. I more than agree that women are people too. 🤣
I'm not a right wing person, but I'm not a fan of the current neoliberal culture war people from the democrats either.
Speaking as an independent, people for unironically say the word bigot come off as unpalatable as people who unironically (actually ironically is probably worse) say the word snowflake. And really, you're saying effing? Say your curse worse and commit or don't bother.
The biggest weapon the objectively immoral on the right have is the subjective disgust they have with 'leftist' social rhetoric. Everyone is just reactionary and out country is in a mutually abusive relationship with a side of self harm
Such a coward. Own it.
He added: "This is what many on the left will do, they'll take a clip of that and they will run with it and, all of a sudden, the statement that is that you want to 'kill everybody' or whatever. We all know that's not what you meant to get across."
Fuck these gaslighting pieces of shit
Does lemmy have sort by controversial?
Not defending that jackass at all and I could absolutely be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure he said jail em all, not kill. Still fascist either way.
I heard ‘jail’ too.
Second one (first into the mic) sounds like it could be jail them all. Third (seconds into the mic) is absolutely “kill them all”. Doesn’t surprise me and it’s certainly not meant literally. I’ve distance myself from a lot of friends and family that are just like that guy. Everyone of them would say America would be a better place if they could kill all the “liberals”. Maybe I’m just numb because I don’t see the outrage beyond how normalized it’s becoming.
I don't understand how anyone could think anything would be better if you could just kill people you don't agree with. Like, I don't like these assholes, and surely the world would be better without people with such extreme views, but to kill them would just make us fascists. That's not a society I would want to live in. That's insane.
One of the last conversations I experienced back home before I left around 2000, was them figuring out how they could go kill osama bin Laden themselves since the shitty government couldn’t get it done. Even forgetting about how none of them have much more than a pot to piss in, it never takes much to remind myself why I left whenever I get homesick. They are all probably part of meal team six. It’s sad, they’re great people in a lot of ways but their really not. They hate anyone that looks different than them and are ignorant as shit. Trying to convince them of any kind of reason would be like walking up to a light pole and convincing it to lean over so you could change the bulb, it’s not going to happen and you’re just going to be out of breath and feel stupider once you finally give up and go home.
...comparing Osama bin Laden to regular people you disagree with is a bit extreme, but I see what you're saying lol.
No teeth ✅️
Ignorant ✅️
Violent ✅️
World view carefully constructed by news media designed to demonize other political parties and minorities, thereby ensuring tribalism and Nationalism continue to plague our nation ✅️
Yall better not sit this election out. 'Cause Captain 'Merica sure isnt.
They actually tend not to vote when it actually comes down to it. Trump was actually a bit of an exception because he was viewed almost fanatically.
If students ever actually bothered, the left would probably win pretty much all of the time. And this is a problem in many countries, not just the United States.
The right will always prioritize the old population (aka direct their propaganda mostly at them) because they know, for whatever reason, younger people don't vote.
Don't be so sure.
What do you mean, exactly? That Trump will be going to prison or face some other justice that he'll actually notice? Based on everything we've experienced so far, he's going to slide through this thing like a greased pig and twice as ugly.
So many replies telling people not to vote.
Fuck these gaslighting pieces of shit
That's all the man said! He gave a list of people, and then said he wanted to kill them. It's not like he was giving a review of the Barbie movie and anecdotally said that sometimes he has dark thoughts. He said he wants to kill anyone who doesn't support Trump.
"How dare the left use things that the right says and does against them! Doesn't the left know that they are supposed to only say flattering things about the right as they sit and get bulldozed? The nerve of the left pointing out the things we are actually saying and doing!"
This is literally what that douchenozzle did on stage a few years ago. I'm forgetting who it was but he said "the only good Democrat is a dead one" and then immediately had to backpedal saying "I mean politically dead, you know they'll take that out of context."
Sorry fucko but the audience cheered like crazy to your bullshit BEFORE you backpedaled.
Off-topic but how would you quote text like this? I'm using Voyager
It should just use markdown, so a right chevron (>) at the beginning of a new line. Like this.
Oh I never knew ">" had a name!
And thanks man
> textJust put a ">" in front of the quote
That's super cool! Thanks
And they wonder why we think they're lunatics.
Think? Most of them are lunatics and some even worse.
While still certainly a greater percentage than you see with dems, I'd say most you hear about are lunatics. I (unfortunately) live in Trump country and I'd be quicker to say that most-to-all are simply really, really gullible and not very smart.
It's really unfortunate, but republicanism has become so ingrained into rural culture from a history of being neglected by mainstream politics that there's basically no way for them to feel like some city liberal is actually representing their interests, because they have no idea what to actually look for policy-wise, so they simply latch onto presented relatability. And they're really, really suceptible to conmen like trump who have a lot of hollow words and no actions to back it up.
Oh, and then you have those rich businessmen who just vote/lobby republican by default because they're historically more "business friendly"
I'd like to add a word to this and that word is "Branding" there's probably better words.
Trump in the Republicans are Masters at branding, every nuance discussion a Democrat wants to have, these Republicans have a three-word phrase designed to create Boogeyman.
Stop the steel, groomers, lock her up, build a wall, taxation is theft, and so many more.
I don't think they're lunatics, I know they are. It's plainly observable.
Ask a democrat what they want and they say affordable healthcare, housing, education, social mobility, better work hours and wages; you know, better quality of life in general.
Ask a republican what they want and they'll say 'hurkdydurk I'm 'onna kill me some lib'rals durrr' like this guy. I literally think he may have drooled on himself while slurring that sentence out.
If someone tells you they want to kill you, believe them.
Since this kind of rhetoric always leads to violence, please stay safe out there, and don't be hesitant to report harassment.
Justice.gov links:
Video https://youtu.be/2H7D2lNAeeY
He’s backpedaling but it seems pretty clear that he was in agreement at the time
“I agree with that” doesn’t get much more in agreement than that.
Mf actually said (hastily) “I agree”
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Just spins for me and doesn’t play video. Cool concept though, I hope it takes off.
Have that happen quite a bit. Just refresh the page a few times usually fixes it.
Took a nap and your comment was there when I woke up. Clicked it again and it worked immediately. Perhaps it was a server hug.
The way I understand is... The website uses different servers/instances to do its thing. Some work better than others. Refreshing the page usually changes the instance in use. I could be wrong though.
Ah, the "globalists".
I need not watch past that, because now I know he's on the side of Captain Inbred.
"Did I say Globalists? I meant Jews."
You should, because it gets worse. Much, much worse.
Don't think he knows what that means.
Viewed without the previous context of 2000 hours of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson.
He tried to say he didn't hear that because it was loud outside. All the people I can see are smiling but not talking. Blatant lie.
Sounds like the guy said, “Joe mall” and buddy was like, “uhhh k yeah I agree”
Yeah because, as we all know, “I agree” is the only response to “Joe mall”
gtfo honestly
What? You’ve never been there where you can’t hear somebody say something and you’re like, “oh yeah for sure” because you need to move on.
Seriously, listen to the guy. He sounds like talking with no teeth and a mouth full of marbles.
I don’t know who this guy is, but his biggest faux pas here is saying, “I agree,” instead of “ok,” or something else.
Edit: oh never mind, after watching again this guy was asking leading questions. He’s a shit journalist.
Anyway, fuck this guy, but not for that part. I honestly believe he didn’t understand what ol’ Fatface Marblemouth there was saying because I didn’t either even while not having to deal with all the background noise.
Edit 2: The downvotes tell me that tribalism is alive and well on the left. There’s plenty of things to criticize republicans on, why waste your time and energy getting mad about this? By showing you’re opponents zero understanding as human beings you’re also showing that you’ve fallen for the diversionary tactics used by those to keep us fighting amongst each other.
If he only said it the first time, I’d agree with you that it’s possible. But he said it, and then said it again more clearly. I’m sorry, but you can’t chalk this up to “he didn’t understand/hear.” If it were really loud there, even, and he said it twice, maybe you’d have a point. But it was not very loud where they were standing.
Not to mention, he had the context of the conversation they were having. He was trying to goad them into spouting their rhetoric. There’s no way, given the context, the volume of the area, the fact that he said it twice…I’m sorry, you can’t buy his bullshit back peddling.
I think exactly what they’d hope would happen has happened: create a controversy to become the new OAN. I, for sure, had never heard of “far right news” or whatever the fuck the name of that “network” was.
Yeah I get what you’re saying, but just yesterday at work I asked a guy to repeat himself and I did the whole “ok yeah gotcha” thing when I didn’t understand what he said even the second time. It happens.
I’m not saying this guy isn’t a piece of shit, I’m just saying this incident isn’t the one to nail him on. The whole, “the globalists? The lefties?” or whatever the exact quote was is much more egregious in my opinion. A reporter shouldn’t be influencing people’s opinions.
I agree with you about the context. I can tell this guy is part of the problem in America, I’m just not going to condemn him for something I did just yesterday. 🤷🏻♂️
Come on, you can’t be that naive. Yes, misunderstandings happen. But what are the chances that this reporter had a misunderstanding exactly when it was most politically expedient for him?
There is this weird thing people do in modern politics, where the people that have the same political beliefs they do can just never be wrong. People have their team, and everything that comes out of anyone with the same color shirt on or the right letter next to their name is suddenly defensible, no matter how obviously silly or ridiculous.
Like communists will defend every single massacre perpetrated under the banner of communism. It’s absolutely insane. Just admit that people who you agree with can do/say things that are just wrong. It’s not that hard. And it doesn’t make your convictions less your convictions.
I’ve been explaining myself all day about a joke I made at the expense of the moron who can’t speak correctly. I don’t care what you have to say. I’m sure it’s already been addressed in other comments.
Lol that was either the most layered, mundane, self-pleasing joke ever made in the history of humanity or…you’re just lying
Like yeah. Maybe it was a lame joke. I thought it was funny that their typical Trump supporter interviewee could be so ignorant and impossible to understand. Obviously he didn’t say “Joe Mall,” but that’s what I heard the first time and I was sharing that because I thought others would find it amusing. I was immediately accused of being a racist and told to gtfo.
I’m now wondering if this whole ordeal is a psyop to make leftists look bad. I’m that blown away by the lack of understanding from this community.
I learned some things here though. I learned that I shouldn’t have bothered to try to explain myself. The people in this community are desperate to find an enemy and I performed wrongthink. I was hoping that kind of garbage was left behind at reddit.
Just go away. I’m not the one who should be ashamed here. If this continues I’ll block this whole community because what the fuck?
Dude said he wants to kill everyone that isn't a trump supporter and you're crying about tribalism on the left because of downvotes? Fucking seriously?
Haven't you heard? Clicking a down arrow on the internet is literally the exact same thing as making a death threat. Both sides are equally bad!
No, Marblemouth said that. The guy’s a bad reporter and a reporter should never say, “I agree,” but rushing to condemn him over that is just as tribalistic as supporting him because he’s a, “right wing reporter.” (A thing that shouldn’t exist)
If you really want to get him fired I’m sure he’s done way worse shit than not hear somebody.
Anyway, I’ve already called talking about this a waste of energy yet here I am still talking about it, so I’m done. See ya.
lmfao Ah, the fabled "both sides" of saying you want to murder political rivals. Incredible to see you here saying it so loudly and proudly.
Haranguing me over saying “I dunno, it was loud and the guy can’t speak clearly. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he said and was moving on, like we’ve all done.”
Funny how people are completely ignoring the parts of my comments where I agree this guy sucks for other reasons, which are on display in the same video.
Tribalism. The tribe has decided that I’m the enemy even though I am firmly on the side of anti-fascists, but you still have to be able to think for yourself, man. You’ve fallen for the divisionary tactics they use to make us fight each other.
I didn't ignore that part, I just find it quite interesting that even after going back and fixing your post with follow up comments, you doubled down with this.
Is it not a loud event? Does the moron that actually said “Kill ‘em All” - or “Joe Mall” as I heard it myself - make sense to you? I had to listen to it twice to hear “Kill ‘em All.” Maybe I need to get my hearing checked?
I was defending the reporter, but then I watched it again and was like, “oh, that part where he leads the guy on is the actual shitty thing he did that he wouldn’t be able to refute. It really doesn’t matter whether he agrees or not because I know he’s a piece of shit for that.”
Like, string the guy up for the thing he actually did, not the thing with plausible deniability because it’s not going to go anywhere.
Made pretty clear sense to me, yep. Because this isn't a new revelation, and it's not the first time we've heard this. Also, Joe Mall? Alrighty. You either haven't watched the actual video, or you're a terrible liar.
https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1685368569347932160
Go ahead and tell me how the reporter for RIGHT SIDE BROADCASTING NETWORK didn't hear this dude properly? How he didn't egg this yahoo on by saying the leftists, globalists, RINOs. Dude. You're defending a reporter that told a rally attendee that he agreed with "kill 'em all". You're really going to die on this hill and blame US for downvoting you? lmfao
Again, the ever elusive "two sides" of calling for death to political opponents is on display here and you're not even ashamed of it. Incredible.
Nope, that’s the video. Like seriously. That guy is fucking unintelligible. Am I taking crazy pills here?
Like I’m Canadian dude, I don’t even have a say over there, but if it means anything to you for context, I’m an NDP voter here.
And yeah yeah I get it. He’s a real piece of shit. I’ve never heard of this organization.
Tell me you’ve never misheard someone in a loud environment and just nodded and moved on. I won’t believe you. I’m not saying he does or doesn’t agree, I’m just saying it’s a good enough argument for them and you’re not going to get anywhere with that.
I said he was egging him on by saying that and that’s the real thing to be upset about. Is there a typo in one of my previous comments I should fix?
Overemphasizing the importance of the thing with plausible deniability while ignoring the undeniable fact that he’s biased as fuck - which are both on display in that video - will not change anyone’s mind. Making me the bad guy for suggesting we shift focus to that just allows them to keep doin it.
I was just making a stoned joke about the moron’s inability to speak clearly and now I’m a Nazi. I’m having a great day thanks for asking. How’s yours?
I never mentioned the reporter.
I was simply pointing out the absurdity of you crying about leftist tribalism because of downvotes on a video of a guy literally saying he wants to kill all non Trump supporters.
And I was talking about how it’s not unreasonable to believe that the reporter couldn’t hear Marblemouth in a loud environment and wasn’t aware of what he was saying “I agree” too.
Marblemouth can go fuck himself and if that’s what you’re bitching at me about then at least be on the same page.
And you know what? Marblemouth votes. Do you?
Ok, let's get on the same page:
Dipshit in the video: I want to kill all Biden voters.
You: Tribalism on the left is the real problem because I've been downvoted on an anonymous Internet forum.
Do you see the irony in your statement?
I've voted in every major election since I was 18; thanks for asking.
You made it to all the part where I said that without reading the rest of the comment?
I don’t know what to tell you, man.
This is a prime example of how these diversionary tactics work. I’m on your side, but I think this particular incident isn’t worth our time.
People here are looking for a fight. I originally just said, “Sounds like he said ‘Joe Mall’” and I was told to gtfo and then further harangued for explaining myself.
And it does sound like that. The guy can’t fucking talk, but the people he supports are stripping us of our rights because their propaganda has worked on him.
Now you’ve wasted both our time arguing with me about it instead of doing something productive and they’ve won.
He has an earpiece in, he can hear what’s being said into the microphone. He agreed because he was pandering.
Bro you can’t even admit that this dude meant what he said because he’s right wing and you’re whining about tribalism
I mean, he could be lying. I’m just saying it’s not unbelievable that he didn’t understand what he was “agreeing” too because it’s loud and the moron he’s talking to can barely speak.
I don’t fucking care if he meant it or not. Everyone’s right that he’s a shit journalist. My point is that you could get on his case about the other obvious propaganda tactics in the video instead of the one that will never gain traction and I can’t believe that me making fun of old Marblemouth there led to me being called a Nazi in the comments. 🙄🙄🙄
Everyone here is so eager for a fight? Put your money where your mouth is, go find him, punch him in the mouth and leave me alone. I’ll pitch five bucks for your flight.
This is all a lot less funny when you put into context that nearly all domestic terrorism in the US is from right wingers. These people listen when others say to be violent.
I agree with that 100%
Like Christ, I started this conversation by making fun of the asshole that actually said it and I guess it wasn’t funny enough because I was instantly told to gtfo.
Then I’m like “meh, it was loud. Maybe he didn’t actually understand what he was saying.” and now I’m a Nazi. 🙄
I agree the reporter sucks, marblemouth sucks, Nazis suck, but holy shit people need to calm down.
Why are Nazis and people concern trolling for Nazis allowed on this server? Doesn't lemm.ee have rules against that sort of thing?
Way to play right in to the real Nazis hands, bud.
Nope, that's not going to work on me. I used to be a centrist, I know the game and I am not going to be taken in by you pretending to be an impassive third party when im reality, you support and defend a hate group that wants to kill anyone different from them.
Cool man. Tell me what I think. That’s really productive.
Gladly:
You're in here because you have befriended a bunch of right wingers, probably on their Discord even though they were banned from the platform years ago. You heard the rumors of how hateful and bigoted they are, but when you went to see what all the hullabaloo was all about, they were actually welcoming to you. Chill..Perhaps even kind. And their opposition to the lockdowns made sense, so you shacked up with them politically.
Cut to you seeing leftfam frothing at the mouth over blatant death threats you've become conditioned to automatically dismiss as overblown, because you know these people, and they wouldn't hurt you (snrrk), so a Trump supporter saying live on TV "kill 'em all" and a reporter agreeing with him must not be just that. It has to be a miscommunication, or the reporter didn't hear even though the guy said it twice, or any number of dumbass excuses you've already conjured up to protect your "friends".
Wake the fuck up, dumbass: the right wing are NOT your friends, they are not reasonable or principled or have your best interests at heart. They are petty, vindictive, immature and champing at the bit to get back at the left for the lockdowns, and that's why they are openly aggressive now. You are not "one of the good ones". They are not going to spare you either.
They want to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them or lives the way they want you to. They overturned Roe vs. Wade which has already killed and maimed people. Ron Desantis is putting out campaign ads bragging about the anti-LGBTQ laws he got passed in Florida, with fucking soldiers goose-stepping toward Nazi symbols. And now this.
They are openly saying they want to kill anyone who is different from them, and you are defending them.
You are a despicable piece of shit.
From the quick scan of it I can tell you’ve made many incorrect assumptions about me and my life. Like waaaaaaaay the fuck off base and ended it by calling me a piece of shit, but I don’t need to explain myself to you so fuck off, pal.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is what a centrist really looks like ^^
And below, you can see what a centrist blatantly lying to your face looks like:
Nah, I’m actually really left leaning, I just don’t have my head my ass about it.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure it was "Let's go brandon"
If US society continues to devolve and these people actually attempt to make good on these threats, don’t expect the police to save you. Just saying.
Tom Morello got one thing wrong; it's now more like all of those that work forces.
Why do you think the guitarist wrote the lyrics?
Because I don't do research to back up my throw away jokes. This isn't Reddit, don't be insufferable.
If that happens, it won't go down the way you or anyone else expects it to. Just saying.
These dang leftists just aren’t gonna understand the context of agreeing that some people should be murdered! It’s just what cancel culture breeds!
I can’t help but think if these people were brown or wore turbans they’d all be in jail by now.
s/backpedals/agrees wholeheartedly then backpedals later/
It's too early for Perl!
That's sed's syntax, no?
Por que no los dos?
It'd work in Vim too, at least after being given a range.
:% s/needle/replacement/Trump voters today, mass murderers tomorrow.
Tomorrow? What about all those mass shootings. These people have been encouraging each other in their various echo chambers to commit violence for over a decade now. Just look at the online cesspool known as 4chan.
You don't need to look at a shitty image board, you can load up Fox News, One America, The Babylon Bee, shit you can just load up Twitter and get plugged right in to your very own right wing grifter telling you what to be mad about and who you want to kill.
It's your very own Two Minutes Hate delivered by your choice of bland talking head.
I posted this story a few weeks ago, but it's relevant here, too. A few weeks ago, I was sitting with two members of a club I'm in. One, retired military, noted that some US bases in Turkey are restricting access to retired military members, and he expressed concern that the same policy would spread to bases in the US, essentially removing a benefit that they were promised upon retirement. Okay, I see his concern, and he mentioned no reason for the change in rule (also, I just read an article about it, and no specific reason is given).
The other guy: "It's those damn woke assholes. They ruin everything!"
So, basically, the right wing media tells the second guy to jump, and he doesn't even wait to ask how high. There's no conscious thought - we're hating woke people today, so that's who must be behind this change. It used to be black people, then it was gay people, now it's woke and trans people...they don't notice how they're being strung along.
It's insane. And scary as shit. The first guy was like, "Well, I don't know about that..." and moved on to something else.
It'll be regularly scheduled pogromming
Imagine being so indoctrinated with a political party that that's your stance. The party's meant to be your bitch, not the other way around
There are people who claim to be feminists on Twitter calling for genocide against men daily.
Sadly people fall prey to rather ridiculous ideologies including, it seems, this moron at the Trump rally.
He literally said that he agreed with the guy twice while being recorded.
Traitors
The Republican Party is truly turning into the party of the uneducated.
Uneducated, violent, and fascist
Our best hope is that republican voter suppression initiatives backfire because the average republican is a blithering idiot
Unfortunately these things are usually targeted, they know the demographics of the areas they choose to implement voter suppression tactics like what they did in Texas.
In other places too they can have 2 rules that seem innocent enough, but combined you see where it's going. Rule 1: no more than x number of ballot collection areas (some number too small to handle local capacity of ballots) Rule 2: ballots not counted by some time are illegitimate and/or allow the state government to step in and declare an "irregularity" which then plays off of New Law™ that states the state government gets to decide what happens to elections when an "irregularity" is discovered. These again are only implemented in places that have high Democrat enrollment or are majority black/POC neighborhoods.
They know what they're doing :(
Why am I not surprised that the person that was interviewed didn't seem to have any teeth...
Today wasn’t his turn with the family set of teeth.
These rallies have gotten out of control.
They just traded the white hoods for red hats.
Maybe Fox news public and Fentanyl addicts have more in common than I tought but for a moment was like watching a documentary about the opioid crysis.
How can anyone be on the side of the right and walk amongst those who, on average, more actively preach and wish for the deaths of people. Alvarez is serving up a BS pie. He may not have said it, but he can’t pretend he doesn’t know it’s a current sentiment in their stream. He uses Truth Social actively. They are the deluded ones.
It’s 2023. Stop being murderous, racist, and generally bigoted people. Let people and women make their own decisions. And quit efing overreaching, especially into families.
I know you likely didn't intend this and I agree with your post but women are generally considered to be people, too 😂
Yes, thank you for not jumping at me for this, I was just trying to be more inclusive rather than exclusive that all people should be able to make their decisions, not just especially female bodied. Apologies at my awkwardness!! Glad it produced a healthy sense of humor. I more than agree that women are people too. 🤣
I'm not a right wing person, but I'm not a fan of the current neoliberal culture war people from the democrats either.
Speaking as an independent, people for unironically say the word bigot come off as unpalatable as people who unironically (actually ironically is probably worse) say the word snowflake. And really, you're saying effing? Say your curse worse and commit or don't bother.
The biggest weapon the objectively immoral on the right have is the subjective disgust they have with 'leftist' social rhetoric. Everyone is just reactionary and out country is in a mutually abusive relationship with a side of self harm
Such a coward. Own it.
Fuck these gaslighting pieces of shit
Does lemmy have sort by controversial?
Not defending that jackass at all and I could absolutely be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure he said jail em all, not kill. Still fascist either way.
I heard ‘jail’ too.
Second one (first into the mic) sounds like it could be jail them all. Third (seconds into the mic) is absolutely “kill them all”. Doesn’t surprise me and it’s certainly not meant literally. I’ve distance myself from a lot of friends and family that are just like that guy. Everyone of them would say America would be a better place if they could kill all the “liberals”. Maybe I’m just numb because I don’t see the outrage beyond how normalized it’s becoming.
I don't understand how anyone could think anything would be better if you could just kill people you don't agree with. Like, I don't like these assholes, and surely the world would be better without people with such extreme views, but to kill them would just make us fascists. That's not a society I would want to live in. That's insane.
One of the last conversations I experienced back home before I left around 2000, was them figuring out how they could go kill osama bin Laden themselves since the shitty government couldn’t get it done. Even forgetting about how none of them have much more than a pot to piss in, it never takes much to remind myself why I left whenever I get homesick. They are all probably part of meal team six. It’s sad, they’re great people in a lot of ways but their really not. They hate anyone that looks different than them and are ignorant as shit. Trying to convince them of any kind of reason would be like walking up to a light pole and convincing it to lean over so you could change the bulb, it’s not going to happen and you’re just going to be out of breath and feel stupider once you finally give up and go home.
...comparing Osama bin Laden to regular people you disagree with is a bit extreme, but I see what you're saying lol.