"Nintendo has not formally announced its next console, and has effectively ruled out releasing one anytime prior to April 1, 2024. The company said earlier this year that it wants to bolster Switch sales with new games and add-on content."
I guess official wasn't the right choice of words, but there's enough info and dev kits going out means it's not speculation anymore.
How comes Valve is the only one to get inputs right? Not even fan renders get it right.
Nobody else is thinking of it as "PC gaming on a console"
They're thinking in terms of "A console which is a PC"
In other words, their heads are in console mode rather than in PC gaming mode. They aren't thinking of an effective mouse option to play paradox games and the like.
They aren’t thinking of an effective mouse option to play paradox games and the like.
To buy the DLC?
Exactly. Purchasing Sunset Invasion requires high precision.
I recently finished Planescape Torment, and I can only imagine how much I would've hated it without the touchpads.
100% agree. Loved the Steam Controller. Love the Steam Deck. Drop the trackpads and my use case gets 10x smaller - I’d pass on it.
Ragebait
Why is it upside down?
That pad and buttons look painful.
This has got to be rage bait
My wrists are sore just looking at that shape.
I am almost positive the Steam Deck 2 will be the same design with upgraded hardware, maybe additional USB port or something.
Valve put a lot of RND into the Decks design and ergonomics. I think it would be a waste of money to change it. Money i would rather them use towards an OLED screen or something.
I hope they find a way to make it almost as thin as a PSP or a Switch, and powerful enough to play games at 1080p. Maybe then I'll consider one.
Yeah, I'm expecting the same. Maybe some exhaust differences with newer heatsink tech.
Improving on things isn't a waste of money especially if they're successful enough to achieve the main goal, ie. make games more accessible to more devices, instead of making the perfect handheld (which is unlikely for a first iteration). The body is too big for the screen, too heavy, new SOC means new considerations internally like cooling and battery, keeping the current form is arguably more stupid since it will probably limit actual improvements.
That concept art is ugly though.
I disagree. I think Valves current form factor for the deck is as iconic as the DualShock or the Xbox controller. They don't need to change anything externally other than the display, we don't even need it to be higher resolution, just a good OLED panel, which would probably introduce a screen with less of a bezel. better GPU/CPU would make it almost perfect.
Concepts are always made by the people I least want to actually be in charge of design
Part of the problem is that concept art needs to be flashy to be noticed, but most usability focused designs are plain or very similar to existing designs.
I'm so happy they don't actually get to design anything
Actually maybe one of them did ouya
That's why they're stuck making concepts instead of actual products.
holy shit this thing is ugly
This design is dumber than that one rounded boomerang ps3 prototype controller
At least the boomerang curved into your palms. This literally curves away. The only part of your body that will be holding onto this "prototype" when you use its joysticks are the tips of your fingers.
From what I’ve read, the boomerangs ps3 controller wasn’t actually dumb at all. It was apparently extremely comfortable to hold because of the way it curved into your palms and the placement of the buttons and sticks felt really natural. But the poor reception to the look of it basically bullied Sony into reverting to the classic DualShock layout.
I forgot these existed! I always wanted one...
I had one. Those controllers were incredibly cheap and plasticky.
Not only the controller. I always had to put something heavy on the toploader or the CDs wouldn't load properly.
Sweet mercy that's ugly
Cool! It even has an unintentionally belly-operated off-button!
(Sorry, but this design looks like a UX nightmare. The Sticks feel barely reachable, the buttons on the bottom will be touched unintentionally, the shoulder pads aren't clearly separated, the ABXY buttons are way too small, the speaker seems to be mono,... The list of shortcomings could go on forever...)
Shit looks hella uncomfortable to hold
It looks like it was designed by an AI, just like how the article was written
Where are the touch pads? Are they secret? Are they safe?
What kind of prank is the artist trying to pull?
I love this shit. They're always so wrong but such fun designs. I wish I could find pictures of the old PS3 and Xbox 720 concepts that people were paying back in the day.
Of course it has that one song + movie maker, no unregistered hypercam 2 or notepad sadly
Rounded corners on the screen? Yuck
That’s probably the least disgusting feature of them all, kinda looking forward for a monitor with rounded corners even though I know the problems that it will carry. The inverted shape of the handles though…
What? The Steam Deck needs trackpads and L4, L5, R4, and R5 buttons! Without them I wouldn't have been able to play modded Minecraft properly due to the amount of controls introduced by the mods I use.
If they ever drop the track pads I'm out. It's the only reason I got the Steam Deck as I play a lot of WoW on it and they are basically required. Plus I tinker in Linux a ton too and also they are super necessary.
It also looks like we got rid of the start and select buttons as well...
They also seem to have replaced the Steam and QAM buttons with home (?) and menu buttons
I could never play Guild Wars 2 without them either, and it's one of my most played games. One of the reasons I got a Deck too.
Don't worry, its just a concept design from Carota. Zero chance this gets out the door.
What a rage bait article. It's not even an official concept but words it like one.
This looks really clunky. Like the steam deck is simple and familiar to me
I love my deck but simple it is not lol
Is it the 1st of April already?
Bait
It worked, I was successfully baited.
I've never seen a good fan render. Ever.
watch astartes (warhammer 40k)
Oh no, I meant of "future" consoles. Astartes is fucking art.
Holding this is the equivalent of trying to run in your dreams. Can’t be done.
Shit looks AI generated lmao, totally unusable shape lmao.
When's the MadCatz brand Steam deck competitor coming out?
Here is an archive version of the link for those that don't want to give clicks to rage-baiters.
One speaker... in the middle.
Mono is the future
It looks like an upsidedown Xbox controller with a screen in the middle.
Maybe unpopular but I kinda like the design and the aluminium looking bottom line.. but it's still dumb and not repairable like this. Also, we just want the old one with a better screen.
The lips around the d-pad and buttons look terrible.
They’re joking….right?
🦗
…Guys?
What's the point of the cutout around the screen?
Almost certain somebody is trolling with this design lol.
It seems like that design is made with the idea of removing the screen from the controller, which isn't bad
But it's genuinely missing hardware. It can't be used.
It seems like that design is made with the idea of removing the screen from the controller, which isn’t bad
Yes, but what's the point? What's going to power the screen once it's out? Pixie dust? What's going to drive the display? Whoever made this is unaware that a tablet is more than just a screen?
Well it could be a similar design to the Switch screen, where the screen does separate from the controller.
There is normally very good stuff at Yanko Design. There is stuff like this sometimes though.
This is my first time seeing Yanko Designs, so they haven't made the best first impression.
Understandable. If you are into industrial design, architecture or just general design is a good place for inspiration.
I'd rather the taper come to the top.
the bottom should be as stable on a flat surface as possible while remaining comfortable.
What is this plastic frisbee assed boomerang looking horror...
I wanted it to be more like a switch for using the joysticks to play on tv. that concept looks like the center docks into the controller which might be a good way to get the effect without impinging on any nintendo patents.
That's not great, but I don't think it would be utterly terrible.
It is, it's bending the hands in the opposite direction of every other controller
What the fuck is this design
Looks like something Sony would design.
I think the same website posted a Playstation version.
Truly awful concept tbh, the shape is awful the screen makes no sense superfluous lights. Just wretched.
Missing the track pads, total garbage.
I agree. The article claims this mockup has better "trackpads", but I think they're just referring to the thumbsticks.
Nah, I think the article and the image are both AI generated, so the "author" of the article really has no idea what the image actually looks like.
The article could be, but the images definitely aren't.
I only ever use them in desktop mode but I know if they disappeared I’d be mad about it
And typing.
Y'all need to look into radial menus. Will change your life.
This reminds me of the XBOX 720 memes from back in the day where the console was a sphere or some shit
IT'S SPHERICAL
Funny to see that it's turned out be a simple geometrical shape after all but just a little... edgier.
Please don't feed bullshit designs like this oxygen. It's bad enough seeing all the "PS5 Pro" and "Switch 2" articles.
Switch 2 was officially announced though.
No, it wasn't.
https://www.polygon.com/23633001/nintendo-switch-2-release-date-2024-backward-compatibility
"Nintendo has not formally announced its next console, and has effectively ruled out releasing one anytime prior to April 1, 2024. The company said earlier this year that it wants to bolster Switch sales with new games and add-on content."
I guess official wasn't the right choice of words, but there's enough info and dev kits going out means it's not speculation anymore.
It's all a lot of "my uncle works at Nintendo and..." Even the stuff about dev kits going out is all sillyness and nonsense.
No trackpads = no thanks
Also why does the screen jut out like that?
How comes Valve is the only one to get inputs right? Not even fan renders get it right.
Nobody else is thinking of it as "PC gaming on a console"
They're thinking in terms of "A console which is a PC"
In other words, their heads are in console mode rather than in PC gaming mode. They aren't thinking of an effective mouse option to play paradox games and the like.
To buy the DLC?
Exactly. Purchasing Sunset Invasion requires high precision.
I recently finished Planescape Torment, and I can only imagine how much I would've hated it without the touchpads.
100% agree. Loved the Steam Controller. Love the Steam Deck. Drop the trackpads and my use case gets 10x smaller - I’d pass on it.
Ragebait
Why is it upside down?
That pad and buttons look painful.
This has got to be rage bait
My wrists are sore just looking at that shape.
I am almost positive the Steam Deck 2 will be the same design with upgraded hardware, maybe additional USB port or something.
Valve put a lot of RND into the Decks design and ergonomics. I think it would be a waste of money to change it. Money i would rather them use towards an OLED screen or something.
I hope they find a way to make it almost as thin as a PSP or a Switch, and powerful enough to play games at 1080p. Maybe then I'll consider one.
Yeah, I'm expecting the same. Maybe some exhaust differences with newer heatsink tech.
Improving on things isn't a waste of money especially if they're successful enough to achieve the main goal, ie. make games more accessible to more devices, instead of making the perfect handheld (which is unlikely for a first iteration). The body is too big for the screen, too heavy, new SOC means new considerations internally like cooling and battery, keeping the current form is arguably more stupid since it will probably limit actual improvements.
That concept art is ugly though.
I disagree. I think Valves current form factor for the deck is as iconic as the DualShock or the Xbox controller. They don't need to change anything externally other than the display, we don't even need it to be higher resolution, just a good OLED panel, which would probably introduce a screen with less of a bezel. better GPU/CPU would make it almost perfect.
Concepts are always made by the people I least want to actually be in charge of design
Part of the problem is that concept art needs to be flashy to be noticed, but most usability focused designs are plain or very similar to existing designs.
I'm so happy they don't actually get to design anything
Actually maybe one of them did ouya
That's why they're stuck making concepts instead of actual products.
holy shit this thing is ugly
This design is dumber than that one rounded boomerang ps3 prototype controller
At least the boomerang curved into your palms. This literally curves away. The only part of your body that will be holding onto this "prototype" when you use its joysticks are the tips of your fingers.
From what I’ve read, the boomerangs ps3 controller wasn’t actually dumb at all. It was apparently extremely comfortable to hold because of the way it curved into your palms and the placement of the buttons and sticks felt really natural. But the poor reception to the look of it basically bullied Sony into reverting to the classic DualShock layout.
I forgot these existed! I always wanted one...
I had one. Those controllers were incredibly cheap and plasticky.
Not only the controller. I always had to put something heavy on the toploader or the CDs wouldn't load properly.
Sweet mercy that's ugly
Cool! It even has an unintentionally belly-operated off-button!
(Sorry, but this design looks like a UX nightmare. The Sticks feel barely reachable, the buttons on the bottom will be touched unintentionally, the shoulder pads aren't clearly separated, the ABXY buttons are way too small, the speaker seems to be mono,... The list of shortcomings could go on forever...)
Shit looks hella uncomfortable to hold
It looks like it was designed by an AI, just like how the article was written
Where are the touch pads? Are they secret? Are they safe?
What kind of prank is the artist trying to pull?
I love this shit. They're always so wrong but such fun designs. I wish I could find pictures of the old PS3 and Xbox 720 concepts that people were paying back in the day.
https://youtu.be/rzLIUgnKY40
An all time classic right here
The music makes it perfect
The drowning pool really sets the ambience
Of course it has that one song + movie maker, no unregistered hypercam 2 or notepad sadly
Rounded corners on the screen? Yuck
That’s probably the least disgusting feature of them all, kinda looking forward for a monitor with rounded corners even though I know the problems that it will carry. The inverted shape of the handles though…
What? The Steam Deck needs trackpads and L4, L5, R4, and R5 buttons! Without them I wouldn't have been able to play modded Minecraft properly due to the amount of controls introduced by the mods I use.
If they ever drop the track pads I'm out. It's the only reason I got the Steam Deck as I play a lot of WoW on it and they are basically required. Plus I tinker in Linux a ton too and also they are super necessary.
It also looks like we got rid of the start and select buttons as well...
They also seem to have replaced the Steam and QAM buttons with home (?) and menu buttons
I could never play Guild Wars 2 without them either, and it's one of my most played games. One of the reasons I got a Deck too.
Don't worry, its just a concept design from Carota. Zero chance this gets out the door.
What a rage bait article. It's not even an official concept but words it like one.
This looks really clunky. Like the steam deck is simple and familiar to me
I love my deck but simple it is not lol
Is it the 1st of April already?
Bait
It worked, I was successfully baited.
I've never seen a good fan render. Ever.
watch astartes (warhammer 40k)
Oh no, I meant of "future" consoles. Astartes is fucking art.
Didn’t think anyone would be inspired by this controller
Getting serious Wutang controller vibes.
Looks like a game gear
Holding this is the equivalent of trying to run in your dreams. Can’t be done.
Shit looks AI generated lmao, totally unusable shape lmao.
When's the MadCatz brand Steam deck competitor coming out?
Here is an archive version of the link for those that don't want to give clicks to rage-baiters.
One speaker... in the middle.
Mono is the future
It looks like an upsidedown Xbox controller with a screen in the middle.
Maybe unpopular but I kinda like the design and the aluminium looking bottom line.. but it's still dumb and not repairable like this. Also, we just want the old one with a better screen.
The lips around the d-pad and buttons look terrible.
They’re joking….right?
🦗
…Guys?
What's the point of the cutout around the screen?
Almost certain somebody is trolling with this design lol.
It seems like that design is made with the idea of removing the screen from the controller, which isn't bad
But it's genuinely missing hardware. It can't be used.
Yes, but what's the point? What's going to power the screen once it's out? Pixie dust? What's going to drive the display? Whoever made this is unaware that a tablet is more than just a screen?
Well it could be a similar design to the Switch screen, where the screen does separate from the controller.
There is normally very good stuff at Yanko Design. There is stuff like this sometimes though.
This is my first time seeing Yanko Designs, so they haven't made the best first impression.
Understandable. If you are into industrial design, architecture or just general design is a good place for inspiration.
I'd rather the taper come to the top.
the bottom should be as stable on a flat surface as possible while remaining comfortable.
What is this plastic frisbee assed boomerang looking horror...
I wanted it to be more like a switch for using the joysticks to play on tv. that concept looks like the center docks into the controller which might be a good way to get the effect without impinging on any nintendo patents.
That's not great, but I don't think it would be utterly terrible.
It is, it's bending the hands in the opposite direction of every other controller
What the fuck is this design
Looks like something Sony would design.
I think the same website posted a Playstation version.
Truly awful concept tbh, the shape is awful the screen makes no sense superfluous lights. Just wretched.