Rules, regulations, or: why am I banned???
==please incorporate the word rule in your post titles==
Here are the things that get you banned:
-saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad or hexbear account
-tankie behaviour
-nazi behaviour
-authoritarian behaviour
-genocide denial
-prejudice of any kind
-anything else that is clearly bad
Things that get your post/comment removed:
-AI generated content
-anything in the banlist
-posts that are so off topic that they don't fit on 196 at all
-moldy memes (old memes, crusty memes, irrelevant memes. The type of things you'd see on your aunt's Facebook page or Elon musk's Twitter account with a laughing emoji as the caption)
-corpoposting
Ban length varies, and is mostly based off of whether or not I think you will change your behavior. I have baned certain people for upwards of 2000 days.
---------EDIT:NSFW RULES---------
NSFW Content is now fully permitted BUT it must be tagged. Any NSFW content that has not been tagged and blurred will be removed. Content warnings should also be added to the title in brackets. Example: [penis] or: [explicit description of sex].
Non-sexualized breasts of any gender are not considered inappropriate and therefore do not need to be blurred/tagged. Yes, even female breasts.
IRL GORE IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER ANY CONDITION.
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Please leave any suggested edits in the comments.
JAN 2024 UPDATE: MOLDY MONDAYS
Monday is now moldy Monday. on this day and only this day moldy memes are not only allowed, but encouraged. The crustier the better. The type of thing that's been reposted at least 2,000 times with filters and bad crops and watermarks and hopefully minions. please caption with moldy rule
If you have any issues, please reach us at 196mods@protonmail.com. PLEASE do not dm me, as I am not consistently available and tend to step away from the mantle for weeks to months at a time.
based
Unfathomably based
!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works approves
how tankies are still surprised that fascist apologia gets them banned in an antifascist community is beyond me
Why are they even allowed to federate here
The main dev of lemmy is one of them, that's how.
this instance isn't associated with the devs
Other than being hosted at the same ip as lemmy.ml
This instance is blahaj.zone, hosted by the folks at blahaj.zone?
Blahaj.zone isn't run by the Devs of Lemmy, they could easily block both Lemmygrad and lemmy.ml if they wanted. They just choose not to for some reason.
I mean, it says in the post, they're allowd to federate but are "on probation"
Probably because banning people based purely on political ideology is kind of facist 😝
Reminds me exactly on the wise words of Sir Karl Popper about the 'paradox of tolerance':
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.—In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force;"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Seems like a scarecrow argument to me.
Not very based.
That's Popper's and Milt.Friedman's way of laundering fascism as a legitimate ideology, a useful tool for capitalist domination and anti-communism.
Can you expand on what you were saying here? Are you saying the paradox of tolerance is itself promoting fascist ideology? Can you please explain?
Guess not
Being against humans can't possibly be a human ideology, so fascists don''t count under this protectionist umbrella, I hope.
why does this comment dance between ultra-naive to ultra-troll in my mind?
Literally
they did it they kicked the tankies out of 196
Literally 196
What is a tankie
An authoritarian communist that is supportive of Russia, China or other repressive eegimes.
they are ruining leftist unity
Nah nah you gotta REDEFINE fascism to be anything that even remotely criticises Russia 😎
Based rules :3
Welcome to the mod team!
wow it's that easy?
Based rules :3
Lol no I know kiwi personally. In order to appoint someone to be a mod, they need to have commented somewhere in the community.
hehe I know that, I am just being silly <33
Have a nice day! UwU positivityyyyy
Nuh huh. You made it a rule and now must abide by it
Based rule! 😉
You seem familiar, were you active on reddit in the past? Could just be a common name. Recently switched over to Lemmy
I was, but under a different name
It's possible to do it using API requests, just a bit more difficult, Browser Dev Tools can do it though (at least I've heard).
I'm here because fuck u/spez
I will upvote literally anything that has "fuck" and "spez" in the same sentence.
Spez is so hot, I want to fuck him.
Idk, you're probably too old for him.
The guy is a cryptobro so it checks out
Upvoted but 🤨📸
Edit: do you have a thing for idiots in power? I have some suggestions for you...
No, not at all. Just wanted to test your conviction.
Easy money
Because of the Reddit migration, 196 is coming up in my Lemmy feed a lot, I have no idea what it is (because you haven't made a description).
This could be your chance to gain more community members if you update your description
Well sort of the point of 196 is that you can post almost anything, the only rule is that you have to post each time before leaving. This rule isn't enforced for obvious reasons, unlike the ban against tankies.
before leaving as in before switching to another community while browsing? or as in when you unsubscribe? and what if I never leave
Can you please ban me for 5 days so that I know what it looks like on this platform?
I'll ban you for one day because you didn't do anything against the rules
It was fine. Thanks.
No problem
can you ban me for 10 minutes?
Permaban this fool 😈
Common moss w
mossy cobblestone?
Unfathomably based
Ah yes, some good news today as well
Happy to see this community is starting off on the right foot
Based, thanks moss
I've got a slight suggested edit
Basically the first item to get banned adding Hexbear to the list with Lemmygrad
I've been seeing a huge influx of tankie takes from hexbear accounts all over (and here) since they federated
My team is on it, and I will personally pitch in in dealing with it once auditions are over for the thing I'm working on
Thank you and I'm happy to hear it
Where can i find the banlist?
You have a link near the bottom of the channel's description at the right, which in English it's likely called 'Moderation history' or 'Moderation log'. It isn't only a ban list, but general information on mod activity.
Love the transparency 💜
Thanks :)
Also, on every instance, there is a link called 'instance'. It contains information about which lemmy instance is federated and banned by your instance.
Does the mod log only log activities from a specific instance visited, your instance, or all federated instances.
Cause I've seen way more activities in the modlist than possible on my small instance, not to mention almost all the removes are from communities outside of my instance.
How does one get flair here?
Also, because I'm bad at image-memeing, blåhaj sounds like what you do when you've had a few and a cop pulls you over.
There aren't any flairs
There aren't any flairs yet
We need to talk about your flair.
Hi! I don't want to break any rules so I'd like to ask first, what are the rules on self promotion? I was thinking of making a post about a 20-30 minute queer fishing game I made for this year's pride (this one to be specific) and thought it could be nice to share here but don't want to break a rule to do so.
It's allowed for now. If self promo becomes A problem, I'll hold another poll.
Thank you, sounds good! I'll only do one post so I can make sure it's not spammy.
This looks cute. I like your artstyle.
Did u take my hot n ready meme down for corpoposting?
Whack. Literally 1884.
Yeag sorry 🥺
Question is Lemmy.world affiliated with the tankies that made lemmygrad or is it separate? I didn't know about any of this prior so now I'm worried a bit
No. It is not
I may be stupid but did you mean not affiliated or not separate?
Not affiliated
Finally. I am returned.
I was very randomly banned from the "real" 196 and never got unbanned, even after notifying the admins 3 times without response.
Also: Fuck Reddits CEOs.
I got banned because I accepted a free NFT thing without realising what it was. Lmao. Was during that time Gobby started power tripping with his autobans
Later I got banned from reddit entirely for saying "Men will blame everything before ever admitting that toxic masculinity might be the source of their misery"
So I switched to Lemmy 🩵🩵🩵
Hi, may I please repost this as a reply within this comment section but with slightly different formatting for the sake of readability?
Yeah, the post is missing its newlines. If the post correctly used newlines, new paragraphs, and better markdown overall, it would probably look like: ::: spoiler The post, but correctly marked down.
Yes of course!
Why are downvotes disabled in this instance?
Idk I'm not an admin
Hey I just wanna say it's good to be back! I've been having 196 withdrawals.
Yeah same
-posts that are so off topic that they don't fit on 196 at all
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What is corpoposting? I am dumb baby
I'm not sure but my guess is it's posts that support corporations, like advertising or memes that could be ads if that makes sense
posting memes/general posts that are pro-corp. I.E. mcdonalds sprite hits different, or wendys twitter, or whatever
Hi Dumb Lady!
maybe consider (temporarily? permanently?) hiding vote-count on posts, to make it seem less dead in here. it doesn't matter how many votes a post has; it just matters whether it's higher or lower than others. for functional reasons, at least.
I don't think that's a good idea. Also, it isn't dead in here by any measure
@moss @gravelsDrachma If its appearance in my masto feed is any indication, it's quite busy! at least by lemmy standards
i'm seeing nine posts in the last hour, and top rated post of all time at 680 upvotes, both figures being below 1/10th of what appear(ed) on the sub.
that's by reddit measure, which is "a" measure, the only one most of us have for reference. i suggested upvote hiding because the reduced count may be discouraging.
they are not bad in themselves, however: if i were, say, moderating this place, I'd say these numbers are too damn high because scary x3. and yes, they're high as hell for general lemmy standards; from everywhere I've looked, that's obvious.
but the "Reddit perspective" is my reasoning for my suggestion, and i think those reasons will fade away anyway as people acclimate to these new figures, much like someone gets used to big numbers being normal on Japanese restaurant menus.
thanks for running this place; i think you're doing a great job of saving some of this culture
I understand where you're coming from, and really appreciate the input but I think people will find it stranger to have no upvotes vs the community just feelig like it's in a budding phase
Personally it would make the community feel more dead if anything. I like to see some engagement over none
I've got vote counts hidden in my UI so things don't feel dead for me, it also helps me resist group think to a varying extent
which UI?
Just the web (and mobile by extension as I’m using the browser on mobile)
I’m not sure it’s in every instance, but it is on lemm.ee
or we could just all stop caring about the vote count instead! why even pay attention to that? I'd honestly rather have two good comments on a post than 300 upvotes, or view counts, or whatever. couldn't care less about any of those.
I know it’s really hard not to notice the votes on a post or comment, even though I’m not actually looking for it. I do agree with the person you’re replying to that it does make everything feel dead. I just have to regularly remind myself that this isn’t Reddit and the site is growing. Just startling tbh. Going to look at someone’s suggestion for UI that let’s you remove vote counts to see if that helps
I’m curious to know more context abt the statement revolving around hexbear & lemmygrad? I’m very new to the fediverse so i don’t know much about these instances
Tankie pro-mao/stalin cesspools that ferment people in a powerful echo chamber. Basically hyper-reactionist toxic "leftists" looking for any excuse to stir up trouble
IM TRYING TO POST TO FOLLOW THE RULE BEFORE LEAVING BUT I KEEP GETTING AN ERROR THATI MUST SPECIFY WHAT COMMUNITY HELP PLEASE
Why do you have mods who have advanced the claim that Jews deserved the Holocaust because "Communism is just as genocidal as Naziism" and it's really a tit-for-tat?
Wtf no we don't. I'm the only actual mod and I'm JEWISH like
Do I have to link to an article explaining that Double Genocide Theory was created by Nazis and their sympathizers to JUSTIFY the Holocaust after denial failed?
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
this water tastes poisoned
Finally an internet community of people that don't think it's funny if people die in horrible ways.
I've been seeing more posts featuring companies, like this one.
I think there should be some rule about advertisement. We probably shouldn't ban all mentions of companies, but some limits should be in place.
I have made a poll to see whether or not I should start removing posts like these
I'm here to post before I leave. Or do I need to post content? Hell I dunno, Im just itching for the sub
Yeah, ban me please
Ok
Are words like 'stupid' and 'crazy' considered slurs here
No?? Can't think of any context in which they would be
That's good
I was on Raddle and they treat those words like they're equivalent to the r-slur, so it's good to have a Reddit alternative with at least a shred of sanity
redditor?
shhhh you can't say r*dditor here
ok you damn r$$$itor (;
With a hard R
Lmao i thought I was the only one that remembered Raddle
There are some communities that consider them to be slurs against neurodivergent people. There's definitely an argument to be made there but at the same time they're so commonly used to refer to neurotypical people as well that it's also easy to argue that they don't do enough harm to be considered slurs.
bruh idiot hasn't been a slur since the 1800s what are those mods from fucking bloodborne or smth
Methinks perchance they've been imbibing the 40-rod.
????
Translation: "I believe they may have been drinking heavily."
Ah. No, actually. I don't drink.
They were referring to the mods from bloodborne
I'm fucking stupid
"Meow"
well you could follow the rule "if it's reported or someone comments that they're offended by a slur like retard, remove it". Or would that be too little moderation in your opinion?
punk-ass bitch? sexy fuccboi? plant? bratwurst? nword when used by a PoC? Any of those?
Well I only know what some of those mean, but pretty much any normal swear is allowed, including bitch as long as it's not being used in a derogatory sense towards women. The n-word is blanket banned not because I have any problem with black people using it, but rather because I don't have any way of verifying that the people using it are actually black. Same goes for other slurs that have been reclaimed.
How tf do you upload images on mobile? I’m on iOS, I’ve tried Firefox and chrome and get errors on both when trying to upload
The system is having serious issues right now, the website seems to be fully booked. I recommend just using the jerboa app on your phone for now.
It would appear jerboa is for android only?
Oh. Memmy then? Or wefwef?
I tried Memmy and Mlem, neither one appears to be setup for connecting with Blahaj.
Did you remember to use lemmy.blahaj.zone instead of blahaj.zone? I screwed that up just this afternoon.
Damn
based as hell
Confirming here for Moss that I've changed user accounts.
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What's the situation with the lemmy community now that the subreddit is back open?
Staying on Lemmy
We're continuing on as normal
Sorry, I'm new here - "saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account" - what does this mean? TIA
Those with accounts created on lemmygrad (an instance created specifically for tankies) are basically on probation. If they misbehave even a little they get kicked out.
Ohh ok thanks, hadn't heard of lemmygrad
No problem! Id advise you to steer clear
Spronkus Kronkus <3
Didn't read the post byt veen a while since I have seen spronkus kronkus
oh thank god. finally, safe community. based af.
appreciate the kind words
Hey @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone - thanks for these!
Make sense to add a link to this post to the sidebar?
Proposed Text:
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
For 196’s community rules, see this stickied post
Will I get banned if I leave without posting?
nah
I've updated the rules to add moldy Mondays
I've updated the rules to ban AI generated content
Aren’t all statements prejudice? How can one even exist without judgement?
Can someone explain the no AI rule? I keep tripping over that one. @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
No AI generated content, so no Midjourney, ChatGPT, etc.
There are several reasons for this:
Thanks. I couldn't wrap my head around it.
I don't really agree, with the viewpoint, but I'll continue to try and be mindful of the stuff I post.
Could you elaborate how you disagree with 2 & 3?
not OP but someone did a pretty good writeup on 3) a year ago
tw reddit link (ew) https://old.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/11v5ovu/energy_footprint_of_ai_image_as_against_a_piece/jcsj7uy/
Oh man that post is a hot mess. Comparing energy used by a human to AI? Guess we don't need all those artists, better round em up and eliminate them because of some reddit math.
that’s the argument OOP was making. I didn’t make it, I never said we should remove human artists. I think human creativity/creation will and should become even more valued in the coming years. You’re putting words in my mouth, that’s not very nice.
You called the write up pretty good, idk man I was just responding to the information provided. Not really putting words in anyone's mouth but my own.
I never said we dONT nEED aLL tHeSE aRTiSTS, I gave you a pretty convincing refutal to the argument that AI uses more energy than human artists. Not anything else.
fuck ai that's why
I like the cut of your jib. Mod abuse Mondays need to make a return
ill consider it
Stupid question but; where can I find the banlist? I haven't seen a link to it in the sidebar, nor this list
I have a fuckton of stupid memes I collected over be years and I kinda wanna post those, but I have no idea which memes are banned rn lmao
Edit: wait I found an explanation; https://lemmy.world/comment/185002
So basically the banlist rule is "don't repeat anything people said in the modlog", or something to that degree?
Do I have to post an image? Is the OP's image an example of what to do or what not to do?
real question. I'm assuming from the name that you can say trans rights are important. killing Nazis here is cool right? like opening up the physical rack, pulling out the backup drive, and bludgeoning them with it inside the housing? or would that be a violation of tos with your hosting company? is it only okay to suggest shooting them? do I have to be clear its only okay to do outside the data center where youre hosted?
What the fuck?
Not part of the community here just see you guys in All a lot, what is the reasoning behind having the word rule in all your posts? Just curious.
Rule: you must post before you leave
Maybe I'm stupid but I still don't understand.
You’re supposed to post before you leave (however you interpret that). I think they’re saying “Rule” in their posts to show they’re posting to follow that rule. That’s my interpretation anyway- only been here like a week and trying to figure out Lemmy
Rule
What is the topic? Is this like a de-facto meme community? I often used the subreddit to post things like media reccomendations and talk about random stuff without any images. Would that be allowed here? thanks in advance :]
if there were to be a post that was, for example, "Chicago bulls pull dylan gongsworth from the minnesota rufflers, leading to widening predicted point gap" and it was like a photo of football, or a link to an article, we'd remove it.
Test comment to see if still unableissues seems to have been worked out. Ignore.