Fox News to Taylor Swift: ‘Don’t Get Involved in Politics!’

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Fox News to Taylor Swift: ‘Don’t Get Involved in Politics!’
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But it's okay for a pillow salesman to be involved in politics?

What about kid rock? If you can call him a musician....

What about a reality TV celebrity like, oh I don't know, Donald Trump?

A movie star, like Raygun?

A bodybuilder, like Arnold?

Tbf the Governator was actually half decent.

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Oooh... they SCARED!

And to this day she has yet to say anything pro democrat or pro-republican. That's the funniest part.

Well, telling people to vote is pretty anti-conservative.

Well, telling everyone to vote is anti conservative.

Voting has always been a large part of the Republican pathos... But they only promote voting on channels reaching Republican ears. They also actively legislate voter suppression laws that effect primarily Democratic voters.

Also, the Chiefs are partly owned and ran by a guy that has made several donations to the Republican party. Not a lot of money over all, but consistently Republican.

I wish the Democratic party was as competent as these nutjobs think they are. I imagine the country would be in a much better place.

I believe the Chiefs are owned by one of the oldest families in football (Hunts). They were well-regarded generally (as good for football), but I would imagine the generational owners lean to the right as they are protecting family fortunes from the rabble.

What's funny is that she hasn't endorsed anyone. But they keep raising such a stink on the mere thought that she might endorse Biden and have demanded that she doesn't voice her Biden endorsement far and wide to the point, now, it has become assumed by most that she does endorse him. If anyone does, in fact, give a damn about her endorsement, the wackos yelling on the right have made her de facto position a pro-Biden position. Exactly what they're complaining about. Now she doesn't even need to endorse him in order to basically endorse him. Dolts.

She’s been speaking out against the Supreme Court killing Roe, and she’s shown that she can drive registration with young woman. And young women are swing left of center.

She doesn’t have to endorse anyone to terrify the right.

Your ideology is total shit when the mere suggestion that citizens should vote as they please is a threat to your existence. The GOP's days are numbered.

Unless they get away with suppressing the vote. Which they’ve been very successful at.

Very true. But look at their progression (decent into madness) over the last 30 years. They're getting more desperate every election cycle. Their insane gerrymandering is being thrown out in a lot of cases. Their suppression laws are getting overturned more often. But let's be clear, that's not because our system is cracking down on them; they're so far gone even our broken system is stopping them. They can't win without extreme measures. But watch out, the eruption of violence that is their death knell will be coming soon.

It's more than that if you watch her documentary. She is begging her handlers to speak out while they are explaining they are afraid for her safety.

We have a situation where even wealthy people are afraid to speak their mind for fear of death. This is beyond unacceptable.

she hasn't endorsed anyone.

Well, she did endorse Biden in 2020. Don't see why she would have changed her mind one bit in 2024.>

Conservatives say they think musicians should stay out of politics. The same conservatives celebrate Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Trace Adkins and any other piece of shit who loudly encourages their audience to vote for a seditious rapist.

It's almost like conservatives are just liars who are fully incapable of honesty on any topic.

Next thing you know they will start running famous hollywood actors and reality TV stars for office.

It is hilarious how terrified Republicans are of Taylor Swift.

For people who loathe being told what to do, they sure do like telling other people what to do.

GOP voters are literally afraid of everything, that's their whole world view. They're afraid of immigrants looking for asylum, people who've left their home out of desperation. They're afraid of transgender folks, who already face all sorts of discrimination in their personal lives. The GOP is afraid of the world and so they punch down on whoever they see as weakest to make themselves feel better about themselves.

They're afraid she will encourage more people to vote. The more people who vote, the harder it is for them to game the system. That's why they pass voter suppression laws constantly.

Fox news has literally won lawsuits on the pretense that their content isn't news and is entertainment and no reasonable person would take it seriously.

Didn't know that. Had to look it up.

Carlson claimed that McDougal attempted to extort money from Trump—though she never asked Trump for money or even approached him. McDougal sued, and in response Fox’s legal team argued that his comments “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts.”

Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil—district judge of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York—heard the case and agreed, finding that “given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’ about the statements he makes” and that “this overheated rhetoric is precisely the kind of pitched commentary that one expects when tuning in to talk shows like Tucker Carlson Tonight, with pundits debating the latest political controversies.”

“The Court concludes that the statements are rhetorical hyperbole and opinion commentary intended to frame a political debate, and, as such, are not actionable as defamation,” wrote Vyskocil in her ruling.

Carlson isn’t the only opinion show host to win a lawsuit with such a defense: David Folkenflik of NPR noted that Rachel Maddow’s lawyers used a similar argument to convince a judge to dismiss a libel lawsuit brought by One America News Network. The judge ruled that Maddow’s comments about an OANN reporter being “on the payroll for the Kremlin” could reasonably be understood to be opinion.

But while Fox’s lawyers argued Carlson’s opinion show should not be taken for news, Fox hasn’t argued that all of its content is “entertainment” as Occupy Democrats claims. Fox News is currently facing a defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems, which alleges that Fox’s coverage of the 2020 election promoted baseless conspiracy theories about Dominion voting machines. While the argument that some of the coverage was opinion was part of the Fox legal defense, the network’s attorneys put forth the argument that sharing Dominion conspiracy theories was part of “neutral reportage” of allegations made by public figures and a “fair report” of legal proceedings.

I'm not entirely sure I understand the republican strategy around Taylor Swift.

Like, doesn't harassing her for basically no reason only increase the likelihood that she does get involved in political battles, not reduce?

This just seems like another hair-brained, half thought through plan.

Why? Just because Fox News doesn’t broadcast anything vaguely affiliated with real world politics doesn’t mean others can’t talk about it.

That's rich coming from the network that's been fellating a reality tv star 24/7 for 8 years.

They said- while hitching their wagon to a failed reality TV personality.

I think that saying he has personality is stretching the definition a bit too far.

Taylor Swift is grabbing conservatives by their collective pussies and they don’t like it.

But hey, let’s ask Kid Rock what he thinks about national debt

Fuck republicunts

Looks like they are afraid. Good. Keep it coming.

Yeah. Look what it did to Fox News. Turned them from a sack of shit to a treasonous sack of shit.

Taylor Swift will be 35 years old before the inauguration. There is still time to sub her in as vice president.

Er, why settle for veep? Biden should endorse HER.

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Is there a requirement to be 35 years old for VP?

Yes, according to the 12th Amendment:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

It's the same reason why Obama couldn't be VP. He's ineligible because he's served two terms already. If you can't be President, you can't be Vice-President. And that makes sense, since the VP could become President at any time if something goes sideways.

Could a 30 year old be speaker of the house? Or anywhere in the chain of succession?

I'm not a Constitutional studies guy, so I don't really know.

As far as I do know, the only requirement to be Speaker of the House is for a majority of the House to vote for you, and the only way the Speaker could become President is if something happens to the President and the VP simultaneously. I suspect what would happen in that case is it would skip over the Speaker and go to the next in the line of succession who is eligible.

A key duty of the VP is to become President if something happens to the President. It may not be a requirement, but it would cause the Speaker of the House, who might be from another party, to be the one who steps in.

You don't want that.

Ya cuz she’s going to abandon her music career to be VP. Totally makes sense /s

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This article discusses reactions from some Fox News commentators to the possibility of Taylor Swift endorsing President Biden in the 2024 election. Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, and others on Fox News urged Swift not to get involved in politics. Some speculated that Swift's relationship with Travis Kelce was engineered by Democrats. Hannity drew a connection between Swift and George Soros, noting Soros' son helped fund the sale of Swift's song catalog. However, not all at Fox News were negative - sports analyst Jay Glazer praised Swift as a "genius" and saw nothing problematic about her or the NFL. In summary, several Fox News personalities strongly discouraged Swift from supporting Biden, while at least one commentator admired her musical talents.

I don't know which is worse - Fox telling an artist to not be political or the NYT reporting that Fox is telling an artist not to be political.

I'm very, very tired of the news being the news. It's no longer about reporting events and ideas but generating content and ad revenue. We've been the frog in the pot for a while now. How much worse is it going to get?

Amen. It feels like this is a completely fabricated news cycle by a few people who purposefully spew unpopular opinions on Twitter.

Says the channel that is the de facto D-List celebrity to deranged right wing pundit pipeline

In fact, we should just get rid of news outlets (Fox, NBC) entirely and only allow news agencies (AP News, Reuters) to report on news and politics.

in some places fox news isnt allowed to use the word "news" in the name, because they are, by their own definition "mostly editorial/entertainment"

they avoid the markets where they dont get to pretend to be news

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Right-wing activists have indulged in baseless speculation that Ms. Swift’s romance with the Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce — a kind of ur-American couple of football star and wholesome pop icon — is a contrivance engineered by Democrats, or perhaps the National Football League, to trick unsuspecting Americans into boosting Super Bowl ratings or voting for Mr. Biden in November.

Swift flies on a private plane, “yet she constantly talks about climate change.” It was the sort of eco-scolding that rarely turns up on a cable network whose guests often voice skepticism about global warming.

Swift said that Mr. Soros’s son, Alex, helped fund the sale of her song catalog to the producer Scooter Braun.

Another “Hannity” guest, the Fox News contributor Charlie Hurt, told viewers not to dismiss the bizarre conspiracies about Ms.

“Republicans haven’t won the Popular Vote in 20 years so now we’re trying the novel strategy of attacking one of the most beloved pop stars on the planet & … the NFL,” Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Trump administration official and a co-host of “The View,” wrote on X.

On Brian Kilmeade’s Saturday show, he asked the Fox Sports analyst Jay Glazer about the Swift phenomenon.


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I want to hear the arguments between swifty kids, and their shitty fox news parents.

"Singers aren't qualified to comment on politics" --the politics network that has Ted Nugent on like every week

i love the insane fervor over her endorsing biden, the most milquetoast (at best!) thing anyone could possibly do, when he's already been canonised by the DNC because he's 90 and stubborn and thinks he deserves another term because that's what the good guys get

it just makes my stomach turn, both in 2020 and now, when people act like this doddering establishment old man is some sort of exciting force to rally around. he's joe biden.

Biden was the guy we all needed in 2020 and he got the job done. He hasn’t been perfect, but it’s not anywhere near bad enough for you to forget how it was between 2017 and 2021 with Trump. I don’t get why people are turning on Biden now when he is again running against the same dick stain who, in addition to also now being 4 years older, tried to steal an election and violently overthrow our government.