[Politics] Have phobia, will travel

GhostFence@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 847 points –
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Little did they expect the black, gay, trans Muslim, with Chinese heritage, who was a former MS13 member, but who also got out of it and pulled themselves up by their bootstraps to start a career in science.

Panic grips the RNC, people screaming, foaming at the mouth, scrawling "the end is near" in the blood of an intern on the wall. Pure chaos.

This person chooses to support Donald Trump, and they're temporarily okay

This comment made me wonder what happened to Caitlyn Jenner. I mean not enough to look it up but still wonder.

Are you kidding? That is old hate, we need fresh hate every cycle, just like we need ever new colors of Gatorade. Otherwise people won't buy it.

This is actually quite progressive. For decades they only blamed blacks, then also a few decades gays and "communists". And now they actually have a new thing every year. They are moving forward with society, always staying up to date. It's like conservatism, but for the fresh cool kids.

We're still getting blamed often. I haven't in a month or two, but normally I listen to a podcast called Knowledge Fight which critically analyzes Alex Jones and a few similar grifters in a taking them in full context way(generally outlets miss the truly heinous stuff Jones says for quick soundbites, and he uses it as a defense to his audience).

Now you may think ol AJ isn't relevant, but you still see right wing talking points come either early on his show or he repeats them quickly. He keeps basically a "rogues gallery" of people to blame for whatever, and BLM, Jessie Smollet, Obama aren't always on the list, but at least one of them shows back up monthly, along with Antifa, Soros, Klaus Schwab, communism, Bill Gates, vaccines, trans people, gay people, China, etc

It's not that they stopped blaming black people (and never stopped blaming queer people), it's that they have so many buzz words to swap us out on rotation. They haven't forgotten though. They still hate us.

As a policy wonk, I approve this message.

(i love you)

What about the satanic panic, dugs, teen STDs (ok that one is fine to be worried about), violent video games, rock music...

My parents listened to conservative talk radio non-stop when I was a kid. I still remember listening to Micheal Savage scream about small meatballs at the restaurant being a liberal conspiracy and knowing how full of shit he was. I was about 11.

This isn't even true though. They attacked Mexicans for marijuana usage back in the 30s, they blamed AIDS on gay people, etc.

Yeah it's always the same. In Utah this past week, the passed a law to disallow trans people from using public bathrooms. I mean,t here's probably TWO trans people in the whole state. Now, one of the women on our Board of Education is in trouble for harrassing a student over possibly being trans (the student isn't trans, she just thought she might be).

What the FUCK is the problem? I've never seen trans people be a threat to ANYBODY ANYWHERE - yet, white moronic privileged idiots are threatening all of us with blocking all of our basic rights to exist. It seems to me the real threat to humanity is wherever bigoted white people gather together.

What the FUCK is the problem?

They invent what they need to hate, then fox screams it. There doesn't need to be a real problem.

From the party that screams and whines about how everyone else is taking their freedoms, they sure do love to to take away everyone else's freedoms

There should be around 30,000 trans people in Utah based on general population.

Did you account for persecution?

No. I read somewhere trans people make up roughly 1% of a given population, I think that number was from a time with higher persecution, because in some places the numbers are higher AFAIK.

Lack of exposure to trans people makes it easier not to see them as human.

we aren't "normal" so their little brains must listen to the propaganda machine and aid in our erasure

little do they know the revolution will be won in thigh highs

Hmm, I hope fishnet stockings are OK, I don't have thigh highs. I may not win the revolution, but I'll certainly redefine the word 'revolting' in a lot of people's minds.... : /

It's not just white people but I get what you mean. So much of politics is performative/culture wars. What always irks me is that behind closed doors some of them are gay or have had abortions privately or something else but they go on acting as though it's the end of the world publicly.

The secret ingredient is 24/7 propaganda.

I can probably make you hate basically anything I can come up with if I can get a 24/7 stream straight into your earcanal. You are just as susceptible as anyone else, and you likely hold beliefs right now that came from some of the very same outlets. Just as hard a time as you have seeing that this is the actual case, is just as hard as the people believing this fringe shit right here have.

Human psychology is fantastically malleable, and contrary to popular opinion, we have a very good grasp on how the mind works.

I don’t consider this a shitpost.

I've been thinking about it and it doesn't really qualify as a shitpost to me either, but I'm going to let it stay for now unless it turns into a complete clusterfuck. @GhostFence@lemmy.world, this isn't really in the spirit of this community. A list of people Conservatives have fearmongered with isn't especially amusing, which is kind of the point around here.

One thing I wish would have died with Reddit is this adamant OCD of "putting everything exactly where it belongs, and only one time until the end of time". What if a post is both "wtf" and "shitpost" at the same time? You wouldn't be able to post it to either because both would theoretically reject it as not belonging there. It would be trivial to find a reason for every single post made to this sublemmy to be removed because it violated some minute nuance of some kind of Platonic ideal form of "shitpost".

Anyone who has ever tried to micro-organize a whole ocean of things ranging from files on a HDD to the complete stock of a supermarket will know being rigidly committed to a strict definition based structure is unfeasible and a completely non-working model.

I think it is pretty implicit that a post in this community should strive to have a level of amusement. I sure don't find this post amusing, do you? It's far too accurate and disgusting to be amusing.

People do not come to Lemmy Shitpost to get pissed off. That's pretty much the opposite of why people come here.

First off you are just avoiding answering the actual points.

Secondly, you are illustrating the very issue with your answer. Let's say I disagree. I might not, actually, but let's say. Is there really an objective end to the discussion, or does it all just come down to personal preference? How many users have we got here, a couple of thousand? We are all going to disagree on the details, always.

My point is that it's a shit system, and only encourages this type of nonsense argumentation in the comments of whether something belongs in the red box or in the blue box. It's busywork for the simple minded.

Please explain why you think people want to be pissed off when they come to Lemmy Shitpost.

Please address the issues I outlined.

Nope. I'm not interested in your issues. And if you have an issue with my moderation, please take it up with the Lemmy.world admins. You can find a list of their names in the sidebar on Lemmy.world's front page.

Also, I'm sorry you find my polite request to please avoid posting this sort of thing in Lemmy Shitpost in future so unreasonable. OP seemed fine with my request.

Well I'm not interested in your fucking issue, and don't tell me to go talk to your mum about it. The fuck do you think you are? I was the one proposing an argument, and you were the buttstuck child. You know it, I know it. Now go ahead and ban me, you CLASSIC reddit mod.

Nope. I won't ban you, I'll just stop replying to you after this.

However, if I see you talking to a regular user of the community like this, you will be banned for violating community rule 1 as stated in the sidebar:

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Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

Again, please feel free to contact Lemmy admin if you have any issues with my moderation.

Have good Sunday.

You too, dumb dumb. Stay in school, one day you may have something of value to say.

2024 - Mexicans at the border (you know it’s already happening)

Issues at the border are only during presidential election year and it will never be for the whole year as the day after voting, conservatives stop mentioning it.

While I'm in none of these groups, having survived the rock'n roll-, black mass- / satanic(1)-, killer videogame-, terrorism-, social justice- / SJW-, safe space-, socialism-/communism-, antifa-, cabal-, satanic(2)-, CRT- and woke-panic, I feel underrepresented.

2025 - People with disabilities (?)

I don't know let's see in the next year.

Please do not give them ideas.

They don't need them, I'm fairly certain the new thing to hate/fear is just taken from a raffle ticket out of a pile of different minority groups.

Source

LOL that's probably the right answer unironically. A damned grab bag of hate.

Not really, they pay top dollah for thinktanks to come up with the perfect group du jour to persecute. It's actually scary in a Mike Tyson first round knockout sense how effective they are. I mean we have a coin flip chance of electing a leader who calls upon our enemies to attack our allies. That's a very, very good return on investment for whoever would stand to benefit from such a thing.

For a party that thinks itself as a pillar of strength and power ..... they sure do spend a lot of their time in perpetual fear.

Discovery was IMHO the most inferior Star Trek, but they nailed this idea when they described the Terran empire. This strong, incontrovertibly evil, imperial monster was born of, and lives on fear. A version of humanity that gave up on trust or hope and became the worst version of themselves.

Wait I loved Discovery...

I felt it was leaning too hard into the grimdark and action for my liking. But that's just my opinion, and there's lots of room for taste. My husband's favorite is Voyager and I think that one is less well regarded so to each thier own.

Hey, Voyager was my second most favorite!

Star Trek, unlike a lot of franchises, has a lot of allowance for taste while still being generally good. I think that's part of its charm.

I feel the community is split between Voyager and DS9

And of things normal people can't associate with being scary. I think that's why everyone's struggling to guess what's next. What random thing will strike fear into them next? Birds? Greeks? Furniture that isn't wood? Children's book- oh, we had that one.

See they're barking up the wrong tree with gays and trans. No middle class conservative white family ever had their kid sit them down and say "mom, dad, I'm black"

Actually, 2020 was the Chinese and county clerks (who typically handle elections). 2023 was trans people and librarians.

Turns out bigots can multitask.

God, I remembered Asian hate. I remembered getting yelled at in Chinatown by a bunch of black people. Yo, we are sorta on the same team man. I didn't create covid. I'm just here trying to survive, just like you.

2025: poor people (i think they already fear that one)

There's a kind of always a constant undercurrent of hatred for the lower class with them. I wonder how far the GOP can push that before their voters realize they're the butt of the joke.

"To get elected, pick a marginalized group and blame them for your constituent's problems."

Gays got pounded even before 2016. W and his marry men of assholes were going after gays and gay marriage during his term.

Actually now that I think about it I'm pretty sure Republicans were scapegoating gays as far back as Reagan.

Yeah whoever made this is young. The anti gay rhetoric was so much worse 1970-2000. Obama was against gay marriage in 2008.

Before 1970 it was barely controversial and everyone thought being gay was a literal mental disorder. Famous actor Rock Hudson had a sham marriage to a woman in 1955 because it couldn't publicly seem too likely he was gay or it would ruin his career. He later got AIDS and asked his friend Ronald Reagan to save his life in 1985 but was rejected because helping a dying gay friend survive was seen as too politically controversial.

Calling any year when gay marriage was legal nationwide the bad year for gay people is absurd.

Don't forget the "small boats crisis", that's the conservatives in a nutshell right now :-(

the Big Bad Border is coming to get "conservative" cowards

And that's another thing! (Climbing back up on the Tide XK soap box). I don't see migrants coming in doing horrible things like putting razor wire around OUR kids. Yes I know there are bad apples in every group, but by far the people doing the threatening and putting forth the hate are on OUR SIDE of the border. We're locked in here with the crazies!!!!

Will 2024 be old people?

Have we forgotten they wanted to sacrifice the old people to save the economy during covid.

With privatization of Medicare coming if Trumpert and company win they are STILL willing to sacrifice the old.

Other old people...they get free top notch healthcare for life while saying healthcare isn't a right

No, because they will get old.

Sorta. I mean, I turn 65 years old this year. Is that too old to be allowed to live? It seems like it. To think I was a kid when they first landed on the moon. And I was a kid when the "beatles" were just a bunch of kids from England. And computers were twelve banks of flashing lights that took up an entire building just to do basic math problems.

Nah, too many of their voters are old people.

Had to look for what the hell was MS13... so, Wait, maras are americans?

I missed out on any MS13 news, was there a specific incident that was focused on or just general fear?

Caravan of "thousands" of immigrants carrying organized gangs disguised as asylum seekers.

Or like fox entertainment likes to frame it: "the invasion of our southern border".

One of these things is not like the others 🎡

I didn't choose to be a scientist. I was born this wa-hay.

Meanwhile, liberals:

2016: Trump
2017: Racism (also Trump)
2018: Russia (also Trump)
2019: believe it or not, Trump again
2020: COVID (also Trump)
2021: COVID and Racism
2022: Russia, again (also Racism)
2023: believe it or not, Russia (also Trump)

They hate... Racism? How terrible!

/s

Trump living rent-free in the other party's head is the reason he's going to be re-elected.

Yes because hatred cannot be overcome by hatred, only by Love.

Well said. So in World War II and the Civil War, we should have just talked the enemy down, right?

Surest thou jest...

As long as atrocities in the past continue to justify atrocities in the present, there will be no end to atrocities.

Well if we did just try to talk them down we'd all be speaking German right now. Well, not me, my African American blood line would be extinct.

What's wrong with speaking German? It's the language of Goethe, Schiller, Bach, Einstein, Planck, Gauss, Leibniz, Hilbert, Marx, Nietzsche, Luther, Kant, Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein... the list goes on and on.

Are you really gonna shit on all of that because of one failed Austrian painter with a funny mustache?

So you're saying they hated hate?

No, I'm saying they generate fear about it. Which ironically leads to more hatred, not less.

It's actually conservatives who play up fear as a tool; check out the article in today's Tribune about it. Given that Utah's majority lawmakers are gerrymandering conservatives, it's remarkable to see an article openly and honestly criticize them as "the party of fear mongering." Already they've passed bills targeting trans people using bathrooms and defining Utah as "sovereign with no ties to the U.S. government." And it's already early in the legislative session. A truly fucked up state.

Oh no, they abhor racism, I became racist!! Help!!

Ah yes, the shitpost meme community, that's exactly where I should post my very deep, thought provoking political content

In case you didn't know, political jokes are a thing and they're not that rare

I know what a political joke is, and most people don't go to shitpost communities to find them

What about a picture of Trump edited so his face looks reaaaaaaaaally small