There is no product on the market I could find (with a normal price that isn't some $15,000 super toilet) that will open and close the lid and then flush for you. There are automatic seats, but they are timed such that it's completely unreasonable to stand and wait for them to close before flushing.
Crazy to think they're are no hands free options available.
Agreed. Two words y'all: fecal spray. Enjoy brushing your teeth.
My partner and I have separate bathrooms. It saves bottlenecks and conflicts, and is worth it to us, even in our small house. We keep our own rooms clean, enforcing the "I am an adult" rule, you make a mess, you clean it up.
Piss splash is gross to clean up. I don't make an extra mess if I do not need to.
Men, women, and everyone in between and between all sit at some point when using the toilet.
It's unsanitary to flush with the lid up.
It doesn't make any difference if you flush with the lid up. Poop particles will still go everywhere, even if the lid is down. There was a study on it that came out earlier this year.
Yep, mathematically people sit more often than stand when using a toilet.
Men, women, and everyone in between and between all sit at some point when using the toilet.
The most efficient thing to do is leave the toilet seat the way it is when you're done. Minimal effort.
The most fair thing to do, oddly, is to leave the seat in the opposite position it was when you got there; everybody flips it once, it may be before or after you use it. Fair.
It's unsanitary to flush with the lid up.
I'm in this camp though, so it's always left down.
The most fair thing to do, oddly, is to leave the seat in the opposite position it was when you got there; everybody flips it once, it may be before or after you use it. Fair.
I'll remember this one, I love it when people are actually logical about things.
Reminds me of canal locks. The etiquette is to always close the doors after you leave, and people get angry when you don't. But it's infuriating because it actually creates more work for everyone. If you leave the doors closed then the next person always has to stop their boat to open them, but if you leave them open there's a 50% chance the correct set of doors is open for the next person to sail right in. If you're in the unlucky 50% it makes no difference, because you had to stop to empty the lock anyway and afterwards you get to sail off without closing them.
People also think closing them saves water, which is another can of people-not-understanding-physics worms.
If you aren't putting not just the seat but also the lid down, you're just spraying your house with piss and shit particles.
Close the lid before flushing, you uncouth animals
And what if I want poop particles around my house huh? When was the last time you asked me
Fair point. Hey !PatFussy, do you want disgusting shit particles flying all over your house?
I do thanks. I like to keep a nice gloss of poo coating every inch of my bathroom. Is this not normal?
Normal is overrated
Can closing the lid prevent disgusting shit particles but allow the delicious shit particles?
Hmm. Okay, for a one-time payment of $8,000.00 I'll pop over and install our patented "Discerning Shitter Filter," guarantee to let only the tastiest of all shit particles enter your atmosphere
civet bean coffee hear we come
But wait tho, does that mean some people never flush while they’re on the toilet? Like they keep sitting there in the poo smell? Unless you’re passing deer pellets and their presence underneath doesn’t begin to haunt your soul, you need to flush while you’re sitting there and not quite done.
How much time are you spending on the toilet that it becomes a problem?
My poos are quite epic
Fair enough lol
For you maybe
Well yes but presumably your own ass is doing the job of blocking shit-spray in those scenarios
We both put the lid down after we're done
i sit down because I'm an adult and clean my own toilet. Standing is gross.
Yeah it's way more work to have to clean up unless you don't mind your bathroom smelling of piss.
For anyone that thinks about shit plumes: Iirc last time I heard it mentioned and looked at the study, it was based on public restrooms with high pressure flushing mechanisms, not the slow flush tank dump I think most people have at home. If it sounds loud and splashy, maybe a shit plume, if it's a sploosh swirl blub blub, prolly not a shit plume. Pouring water on shit doesn't really aerosolize it, power washing it does.
I mean easy to check, put a sheet of film on the toilet when flushing and look at the splash pattern
'Splattern'
That " study" more dubious than that. It was really just an uncontrolled experiment.
My wife does this, no lie. Took me awhile to figure out why the lid was always up after she moved in.
You made a good choice
I pee with the toilet seat down for extra difficulty
I also use my penis on hard mode.
I sit on the toilet to pee at home. Why do all guys just not do that? It's better in every way.
Never got an unwanted dunk?
Nah. Short penis privilege 😎
I pee with the lid down too, expert difficulty.
I think women should start pissing standing so my fellow fragile penis owner, who think standing while pissing is the only option, learn how filthy a toilet gets if you don't put your parts in the bowl.
If i piss while sitting is way worse, pee fall trough the space between the seat and the WC body.
Close the fucking toilet you heathens. All of you.
I've started reflexively putting the seat and lid down because otherwise my toddler will put whatever he can in the toilet.
#1 step is to get a slow closing lid and seat. That will solve all arguments
it's the middle of the night and the house is silent. You finish your business and in your sleepiness know that you have to put the seat and lid down because you don't want all that bacteria on your toothbrush, your towel, your clothes. So you turn around grab the lid and
#SLAM
you whisper "fuck"
your baby is crying and your wife is awake. You're not going back to sleep
This is why most modern lids use a soft close system.
I hate soft close lids because they close too slow. The flush is over before it's half down, which defeats the whole point of a lid. Sure, I could wait an extra 30 seconds, but at that point why not just do the soft close with my own hand?
I'm not sure about soft close toilet hinges, but, most soft close cabinet hinges have small adjusters that allow to you basically set the speed of the close.
Might be something to look into.
i've never understood this tbh.
Just check it before you use it, and adjust it if needed, unless you're hyper conscious of the particulates that tend to result from flushing, in which case fuck it, close it everytime.
close it everytime.
I belive that is what your supposed to do, and the main reason why there is a lid.
Only other potential reason I can think of is oder, but if your toilet smells that bad you ain't flushing and cleaning it enough.
That's what we do at my house, close all lids.
Close the lid so the cat doesn't drink/fall in?
If it's a problem from there, it's not a battle of "who needs the seat in what configuration," it's a battle of "who deserves to touch the icky parts and who deserves the icky parts touched for them" at which point we're through.
It's best to have an agreed default in a household, so there's no surprises during a half awake trip or an emergency. Lid down is the best hygienically, but seat down is better than all up as it's a shared need for everyone sometimes.
Women who do lid up for the men have done that out of a history of men in their lives thinking their aim is perfect.
I used to have to tell my female friend to put the lid down when she stayed over. My cat loves drinking from the toilet so if the lids up when I open the door and I don't catch him in time he'll just dunk his head in it.
You should really put it down when you flush too which minimises the amount of fecal or urine particles that get into the air.
If you raise or lower the seat to how you need it, before you use the toilet, then you don't have to worry about this issue at all.
I remember reading some years ago on reddit that leaving the lid open (flushing or not) probably contaminates the air.
So now I open the lid and the seat and when Im done I close both of them, ~no matter with who else I'm in the house.
The difference is that if I forget to put the toilet seat down, she can fall in.
Vs if she forgets to put the seat up, I just pee all over the toilet seat.
I've never understood this... are people just blindly launching their butts at toilets? Are the lights off? Is alcohol involved?
Muscle memory mostly. I've done it a couple of times.
That makes sense. I guess I'm the opposite. I have a habit of scrutinizing every toilet I sit on because I don't trust placing the delicate bits over random holes...
The vast majority of the time it's fine. It's seemingly only happened in the past when there's been a guest over who doesn't put the seat down themselves. When you have a white seat on a white toilet then it can be easy to make bad calls from subconscious glances.
I don't know about you but I look at what I'm about to sit on.
I'm talking maybe 3 times in 30 years here, and it's nothing dramatic, just an 'ah this is colder than a toilet seat should be' before standing up again.
I mean, considerate of you and all but maybe this is just my chaos sitzpinkler enby opinion but if you get into the habit of checking the toilet for a second beforehand because you don't expect it to be reset for your specific needs this doesn't happen.
I never expect people to put the seat down for me nor do I expect to put the seat up for them as both require the same amount of effort to rejig the toilet seat and it cannot be counted on who will be using the bathroom next. This feels a little bit "holding the door open for the lady" courtesy. A weird holdover gendered etiquette expectation for folks who stand and pee that just hasn't been re-examined.
Yeah but we also use the toilet seat. So for me, that's enough to leave it down.
My wife does this, no lie. Took me awhile to figure out why the lid was always up after she moved in.
Everyone needs to put the toilet seat down. Flushing with the lid up is committing biological warfare on yourself and everything else in the bathroom.
But watching with great satisfaction as your turd circles down the toilet is one of life's great joys.
I always flush, then put the seat down. I picked it up as a habit when we had a dog that would drink the toilet water
Not only that, peeing sitting down is easier and more relaxing for men.
unless the toilet is too small
There is no product on the market I could find (with a normal price that isn't some $15,000 super toilet) that will open and close the lid and then flush for you. There are automatic seats, but they are timed such that it's completely unreasonable to stand and wait for them to close before flushing.
Crazy to think they're are no hands free options available.
Agreed. Two words y'all: fecal spray. Enjoy brushing your teeth.
close the lid.
now everybody has to adjust the toilet before using it.
No, close the lid because that's how you avoid coating everything in the room with a film of urine and feces. Open toilets are disgusting.
i mean, that too. that's the excuse i give when people demand to know why I always "fucking" close the "goddamn" lid :3
Also, then stuff can't accidentally fall into the toilet
TIL I'm a moron always being careful around the toilet so I don't drop something in...when I could've just closed the lid.
Well now you can sit on that closed lid and reflect on your life
Closing the lid so the toilet pipe ghost doesn't come out
the stinkiest ghosts.
Leave it up so spiders cant hide under it.
Is that a Zelda reference?
No I made it up but yeah why not. Zelda 64 super secret. Secret wall Young Link.
Lawful evil
Lawful Good IMO
Me, an alpha male sitting down to pee and closing the lid afterwards: what are you talking about you degenerates
Lower the lid before you flush. Aerosolized poop and pee is a thing.
That's what I do
Fuck that I pee through the lid
More efficient. Healthier for some.
https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a44048316/sitting-down-to-pee-health-benefits/
It's probably an American problem.
My partner and I have separate bathrooms. It saves bottlenecks and conflicts, and is worth it to us, even in our small house. We keep our own rooms clean, enforcing the "I am an adult" rule, you make a mess, you clean it up. Piss splash is gross to clean up. I don't make an extra mess if I do not need to.
It doesn't make any difference if you flush with the lid up. Poop particles will still go everywhere, even if the lid is down. There was a study on it that came out earlier this year.
Thanks for the link
Why don't we keep the toilet in a room separate from the shower and sink? I've never fucking understood it.
U mean an outthouse?
those don't have water bowls, no micro particulates to be thrown about.
Yep, mathematically people sit more often than stand when using a toilet.
The most efficient thing to do is leave the toilet seat the way it is when you're done. Minimal effort.
The most fair thing to do, oddly, is to leave the seat in the opposite position it was when you got there; everybody flips it once, it may be before or after you use it. Fair.
I'm in this camp though, so it's always left down.
I'll remember this one, I love it when people are actually logical about things.
Reminds me of canal locks. The etiquette is to always close the doors after you leave, and people get angry when you don't. But it's infuriating because it actually creates more work for everyone. If you leave the doors closed then the next person always has to stop their boat to open them, but if you leave them open there's a 50% chance the correct set of doors is open for the next person to sail right in. If you're in the unlucky 50% it makes no difference, because you had to stop to empty the lock anyway and afterwards you get to sail off without closing them.
People also think closing them saves water, which is another can of people-not-understanding-physics worms.
If you aren't putting not just the seat but also the lid down, you're just spraying your house with piss and shit particles.
Close the lid before flushing, you uncouth animals
And what if I want poop particles around my house huh? When was the last time you asked me
Fair point. Hey !PatFussy, do you want disgusting shit particles flying all over your house?
I do thanks. I like to keep a nice gloss of poo coating every inch of my bathroom. Is this not normal?
Normal is overrated
Can closing the lid prevent disgusting shit particles but allow the delicious shit particles?
Hmm. Okay, for a one-time payment of $8,000.00 I'll pop over and install our patented "Discerning Shitter Filter," guarantee to let only the tastiest of all shit particles enter your atmosphere
civet bean coffee hear we come
But wait tho, does that mean some people never flush while they’re on the toilet? Like they keep sitting there in the poo smell? Unless you’re passing deer pellets and their presence underneath doesn’t begin to haunt your soul, you need to flush while you’re sitting there and not quite done.
How much time are you spending on the toilet that it becomes a problem?
My poos are quite epic
Fair enough lol
For you maybe
Well yes but presumably your own ass is doing the job of blocking shit-spray in those scenarios
We both put the lid down after we're done
i sit down because I'm an adult and clean my own toilet. Standing is gross.
Yeah it's way more work to have to clean up unless you don't mind your bathroom smelling of piss.
For anyone that thinks about shit plumes: Iirc last time I heard it mentioned and looked at the study, it was based on public restrooms with high pressure flushing mechanisms, not the slow flush tank dump I think most people have at home. If it sounds loud and splashy, maybe a shit plume, if it's a sploosh swirl blub blub, prolly not a shit plume. Pouring water on shit doesn't really aerosolize it, power washing it does.
I mean easy to check, put a sheet of film on the toilet when flushing and look at the splash pattern
'Splattern'
That " study" more dubious than that. It was really just an uncontrolled experiment.
My wife does this, no lie. Took me awhile to figure out why the lid was always up after she moved in.
You made a good choice
I pee with the toilet seat down for extra difficulty
I also use my penis on hard mode.
I sit on the toilet to pee at home. Why do all guys just not do that? It's better in every way.
Never got an unwanted dunk?
Nah. Short penis privilege 😎
I pee with the lid down too, expert difficulty.
I think women should start pissing standing so my fellow fragile penis owner, who think standing while pissing is the only option, learn how filthy a toilet gets if you don't put your parts in the bowl.
If i piss while sitting is way worse, pee fall trough the space between the seat and the WC body.
Close the fucking toilet you heathens. All of you.
I've started reflexively putting the seat and lid down because otherwise my toddler will put whatever he can in the toilet.
#1 step is to get a slow closing lid and seat. That will solve all arguments
it's the middle of the night and the house is silent. You finish your business and in your sleepiness know that you have to put the seat and lid down because you don't want all that bacteria on your toothbrush, your towel, your clothes. So you turn around grab the lid and
#SLAM
you whisper "fuck"
your baby is crying and your wife is awake. You're not going back to sleep
This is why most modern lids use a soft close system.
I hate soft close lids because they close too slow. The flush is over before it's half down, which defeats the whole point of a lid. Sure, I could wait an extra 30 seconds, but at that point why not just do the soft close with my own hand?
I'm not sure about soft close toilet hinges, but, most soft close cabinet hinges have small adjusters that allow to you basically set the speed of the close.
Might be something to look into.
i've never understood this tbh.
Just check it before you use it, and adjust it if needed, unless you're hyper conscious of the particulates that tend to result from flushing, in which case fuck it, close it everytime.
I belive that is what your supposed to do, and the main reason why there is a lid.
Only other potential reason I can think of is oder, but if your toilet smells that bad you ain't flushing and cleaning it enough.
That's what we do at my house, close all lids.
Close the lid so the cat doesn't drink/fall in?
If it's a problem from there, it's not a battle of "who needs the seat in what configuration," it's a battle of "who deserves to touch the icky parts and who deserves the icky parts touched for them" at which point we're through.
It's best to have an agreed default in a household, so there's no surprises during a half awake trip or an emergency. Lid down is the best hygienically, but seat down is better than all up as it's a shared need for everyone sometimes.
Women who do lid up for the men have done that out of a history of men in their lives thinking their aim is perfect.
I used to have to tell my female friend to put the lid down when she stayed over. My cat loves drinking from the toilet so if the lids up when I open the door and I don't catch him in time he'll just dunk his head in it.
You should really put it down when you flush too which minimises the amount of fecal or urine particles that get into the air.
If you raise or lower the seat to how you need it, before you use the toilet, then you don't have to worry about this issue at all.
I remember reading some years ago on reddit that leaving the lid open (flushing or not) probably contaminates the air.
So now I open the lid and the seat and when Im done I close both of them, ~no matter with who else I'm in the house.
The difference is that if I forget to put the toilet seat down, she can fall in.
Vs if she forgets to put the seat up, I just pee all over the toilet seat.
I've never understood this... are people just blindly launching their butts at toilets? Are the lights off? Is alcohol involved?
Muscle memory mostly. I've done it a couple of times.
That makes sense. I guess I'm the opposite. I have a habit of scrutinizing every toilet I sit on because I don't trust placing the delicate bits over random holes...
The vast majority of the time it's fine. It's seemingly only happened in the past when there's been a guest over who doesn't put the seat down themselves. When you have a white seat on a white toilet then it can be easy to make bad calls from subconscious glances.
I don't know about you but I look at what I'm about to sit on.
I'm talking maybe 3 times in 30 years here, and it's nothing dramatic, just an 'ah this is colder than a toilet seat should be' before standing up again.
I mean, considerate of you and all but maybe this is just my chaos sitzpinkler enby opinion but if you get into the habit of checking the toilet for a second beforehand because you don't expect it to be reset for your specific needs this doesn't happen.
I never expect people to put the seat down for me nor do I expect to put the seat up for them as both require the same amount of effort to rejig the toilet seat and it cannot be counted on who will be using the bathroom next. This feels a little bit "holding the door open for the lady" courtesy. A weird holdover gendered etiquette expectation for folks who stand and pee that just hasn't been re-examined.
Yeah but we also use the toilet seat. So for me, that's enough to leave it down.
My wife does this, no lie. Took me awhile to figure out why the lid was always up after she moved in.