It could soon be illegal to publicly wear a mask for health reasons in North Carolina

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It could soon be illegal to publicly wear a mask for health reasons in NC
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You misunderstood, see it was "Land or the free"... and then they took all the land.

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This is even more concerning when you look at some of the motivations: "The bill was largely spurred by recent protests on university and college campuses across the country, including North Carolina-based schools, against the war in Gaza."

this is about control, fascism. historically student protests are the canary in the coal mine on a number of issues. powers that be are looking to stamp out any dissent going forward.

It's about all of that, but they absolutely could have put in an exemption for medical needs and chose not to. The anti-mask virtue signaling to their plague-ridden base is a bonus.

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What a stupid fucking rule, guess immunocompromised people are just supposed to die?

In the article it says that immunocompromised people spoke during the public comments on the bill and Republican senators said that the bill would criminalize their wearing masks but they just won't be prosecuted for it.

So the law would demand it, but the "trust me bro, I got yo back" defense says to ignore what the law actually says?

Okay, I think I will.:-P

Pretty sure a SCOTUS justice said that they can't trust prosecutors to not do this just a month ago.

Yeah, that's just simply not how laws work... and even if they did, for a time, people could forget and prosecute later, bc that's what the law says to do.

I think I missed that one. Got a case name for it?

Trump v. United States

https://archive.org/details/CSPAN_20240428_171000_Supreme_Court_Hears_Case_on_Fmr._Pres._Trumps_Immunity_Claim/start/3960/end/4020

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/23-939_f2qg.pdf

CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Well, that's what I -- I mean, shortly after that statement in the court, that -- court's opinion, that's what they said, but there's no reason to worry because the prosecutor will act in good faith and there's no reason to worry because a grand jury will have returned the indictment. Now you know how easy it is in many cases for a prosecutor to get a grand jury to bring an indictment, and reliance on the faith -- good faith of the prosecutor may not be enough in the -- some cases. I'm not suggesting here.

So instead of just having cancer, you’ll have cancer and be a criminal.

That's a much smoother way to become a criminal than by committing an actual crime, kinda convenient.

AKA you'll be removed from the voter pool of you wear it.

Translation: don't worry about it if you are a cishet white Christian.

Sounds like Florida's law about Mexicans, and then poof, all the Mexicans left Florida.

If God loved them, he wouldn't have assembled them all jacked up!

This is how you sue dumbasses who pass this law

I have strongly held religious beliefs that compel me to wear a mask whenever the fuck I want.

Yeah… but their religion says that yours doesn’t count and only their beliefs matter.

Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise there would be no religious people.

What about as a political statement? Isn't that still protected speech? You republicans made masking/not masking a political act, don't blame me.

Someone should try wearing a “Trump 2024” mask and see what happens

Do viruses control our Congress critters like the brain worms do?

Yes, RFK accidentally revealed he had a brain worm when his died and he regained control. I'm sure his goa'uld will be replaced soon.

I reflexively down vote the term “congress critters”. It is basically the same as the “tea party”. It tells everyone how little you understand things.

Just a stupid term wielded by folks to eventually let the worst amongst us yield control. Them critters gonna get us! It’s not a system of representative democracy where we elect those to represent us! They are critters!

They’re just a bunch of critters! Not people, not criminal actors, just a bunch a squirrels!

I reflexively downvote anyone who types the word "downvote" into their comment. It typically reflects how much of a bitch the commenter is.

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FREEDOM means having GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS make HEALTH decisions for YOU!

DId someone say Obama Death Panels?

Operating rooms are about to become interesting.

My guess is Operating rooms would be considered private, but EMTs… They clearly operate in public.

Sounds like it would conflict with the ADA.

What about for purely fashion reasons?

Also illegal. Don’t worry though, the KKK is specifically listed as a group that can apply for an exemption. The reason that’s in there is because every version of the bill that explicitly listed the KKK as an organization that can’t apply for an exemption failed. I know this sounds like insane hyperbole and not something that actually happened, but that’s the state of things.

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Halloween is going to be interesting this year.

"I'm not wearing the mask for health reasons. I'm cosplaying someone that doesn't want to get ill from a respiratory communicable disease."

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Silver lining: it will be a lot harder for cops to go undercover and pretend to be "Antifa" now.

Just in time for the avian flu.

Now that avian flu is available in hamberders, masks only get in the way of eating. So, still irrelevant and illegal.

Somebody please fire those legislators.

And prosecute them for reckless endangerment and spreading infectious disease.

On the one hand, at least the Patriot Front have to show their faces now.

Oh ho ho, where have you been that you think they'll hold their own side to this standard?

If you think this law will apply to their neo-nazi proxies I have a bridge to sell you.

Bad title, if the article is accurate. What's happening is they are trying to repeal an exemption made in 2020 to existing anti-mask laws that were instituted to curtail secret societies and the KKK.

It does not appear that masking for health reasons was prosecuted before the exemption was made for covid. Would it be prosecuted now though is the question.

The title is 100% accurate. A thing being "illegal" isn't a matter of enforcement.

It was also a bad law to begin with. It may not have been prosecuted, but masking for health reasons should never have been illegal in the first place, because illegality both discourages use and opens the wearer up to risks of arbitrary enforcement or its use for pretextual stops or harassment.

And this is all assuming nothing changed since before COVID. Now masking is politicized and rightwing people (a disproportionate number of cops) get irrationally angry at medical masking.

That’s legalese for what they are doing. The only potential inaccuracy I see that they want to forbid earring masks in demonstrations/protests, not in general public places like a mall.

Here’s hoping the language isn’t so ambiguous that hospital workers will have to stop treating infectious people and surgeons aren’t having to consult with legal counsel on whether they can operate.

In public… meaning public outside and not public areas of the hospital right? Ambulances? Do those count? Etc.

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